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Author Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot!  (Read 1984358 times)
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December 04, 2014, 05:57:03 AM
Last edit: December 04, 2014, 06:15:52 AM by Stunna
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Sorry for the great delay in providing commentary on the "robbinhood" situation. Primedice is fully private but for the sake of transparency we'll be discussing what happened soon after we finalize our investigation. Luckily, no users were impacted negatively by his actions only the house.

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December 04, 2014, 06:04:34 AM
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I'm totally curious about it.  It'll be informative to hear about how this was achieved (once you have everything fixed, of course).
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December 04, 2014, 07:04:13 AM
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Looking forward to some more details, thanks for keeping us in the loop.

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December 04, 2014, 08:25:43 AM
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Thanks for letting us know, i hope it has been solved permanently.

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December 04, 2014, 08:33:39 AM
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Anyone wants to pvp 1-15btc bets?
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December 04, 2014, 09:22:36 AM
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Anyone wants to pvp 1-15btc bets?

I'm 99% sure the maximum you can pvp is 1 BTC since it's not provably fair.

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December 04, 2014, 09:32:26 AM
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Anyone wants to pvp 1-15btc bets?

I'm 99% sure the maximum you can pvp is 1 BTC since it's not provably fair.

lol what are you talking about man, you personally did 10 btc bets with me...

and it clearly says on the primedice site that pvp is provably fair..
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December 04, 2014, 09:56:47 AM
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Anyone wants to pvp 1-15btc bets?

I'm 99% sure the maximum you can pvp is 1 BTC since it's not provably fair.

lol what are you talking about man, you personally did 10 btc bets with me...

and it clearly says on the primedice site that pvp is provably fair..

Yeah, I lost a total of 50 + BTC to you over a few sessions so I complained that it wasn't provably fair so they changed it to a maximum of 1 BTC.

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December 04, 2014, 10:00:21 AM
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.
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December 04, 2014, 10:09:43 AM
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LoL.. PvP only go for your bet with someone.. not bet with household.. this is only your lucky and bankroll management...i have win at PvP about 0.05BTC with my strategies
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December 04, 2014, 10:23:58 AM
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just want say thank you prime dice lol
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December 04, 2014, 10:33:08 AM
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December 04, 2014, 10:45:44 AM
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Nicely done  Grin     -beta1
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December 04, 2014, 10:46:17 AM
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PvP is provably fair if u play against somebody u know and u are sure he is not "the house" .

Because on pvp if somebody knows ur seed he can cheat .

So basically house could cheat while playing against u.

So in that matter it isn't provably fair. But u can also verify ur bets on pvp .

So just play with friends and people u know and u are safe.

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December 04, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.

This confuses me too?!

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December 04, 2014, 10:49:53 AM
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wow .. congartulations Smiley

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December 04, 2014, 10:54:34 AM
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.

This confuses me too?!

"To create roll numbers for PVP, the same process described above is used with a minor change. The server seed is your seed and the opponents seed is the client seed."

This means that if the last person is the house, they could cheat. Because they know already the opponent's seed and could generate an own seed that have a favorable outcome. My guess is that you couldn't be cheated if you are last to act and already see the HASH of the opponent's seed (is that possible? or you never see any hash?)

Either way, I personally do not think PD cheats. But it is right to say PVP is not really provably fair. I personally don't know a real solution to it.

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December 04, 2014, 10:58:42 AM
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Like how 'Robbinhood' knew the outcome of the next roll, its not hard for the house to know yours too. cheers.
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December 04, 2014, 11:19:58 AM
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.

This confuses me too?!

"To create roll numbers for PVP, the same process described above is used with a minor change. The server seed is your seed and the opponents seed is the client seed."

This means that if the last person is the house, they could cheat. Because they know already the opponent's seed and could generate an own seed that have a favorable outcome. My guess is that you couldn't be cheated if you are last to act and already see the HASH of the opponent's seed (is that possible? or you never see any hash?)

Either way, I personally do not think PD cheats. But it is right to say PVP is not really provably fair. I personally don't know a real solution to it.

i am reasonably confident that both of us were challenging and accepting during our betting sessions, so I was not consistently last to act. I did not consider this possibility. How would an oponent be able to see what seed i have set? even in theory?
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December 04, 2014, 11:25:01 AM
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.

This confuses me too?!

"To create roll numbers for PVP, the same process described above is used with a minor change. The server seed is your seed and the opponents seed is the client seed."

This means that if the last person is the house, they could cheat. Because they know already the opponent's seed and could generate an own seed that have a favorable outcome. My guess is that you couldn't be cheated if you are last to act and already see the HASH of the opponent's seed (is that possible? or you never see any hash?)

Either way, I personally do not think PD cheats. But it is right to say PVP is not really provably fair. I personally don't know a real solution to it.

i am reasonably confident that both of us were challenging and accepting during our betting sessions, so I was not consistently last to act. I did not consider this possibility. How would an oponent be able to see what seed i have set? even in theory?


paste the bet id on chat and you can see what seed he is using. or you can look it up on https://pd3.co/ if you have any of his previous bet id (can be seen on all bets)
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