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August 25, 2017, 01:57:32 PM
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Well has anyone set anything up yet to see if you can download this blockstream blockchain via satellite setup of any flavor?

I should do such but have no frigging time as of late



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Well has anyone set anything up yet to see if you can download this blockstream blockchain via satellite setup of any flavor?

I should do such but have no frigging time as of late



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I'd love to see Bitcoin launch a few cubesats via Elons SpaceX and get some nodes orbiting the globe... someday that will happen.   Grin
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August 26, 2017, 05:31:52 PM
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I have that same dongle, and I got it for ~$20 I think. It's on amazon, and comes with two antennas, some adapters, and the dongle itself. That website is also really helpful for setting up different things with it. I tried and got some AM Radio, the National Weather Service, police radios, and a few other things. It's a neat trinket: http://a.co/dFsVWBz
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Well has anyone managed either with parts and an old dish or with the stuff I mention...get this blockstream download to sing and dance a tune?

video?

details?

etc?


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Many people thinking this will never happen and it is all just hype. I must admit it is hard to believe such technology would come this early for Bitcoin. Heck, many countries do not even have widespread internet but they will be able to transact Bitcoin. haha
It's already happening. It was already working and happening when it was announced. It isn't just hype; there are instructions for how to set up your own stuff now since it is already broadcasting now. People have already set up receivers and are receiving blocks.

The satellite is best for places where you have a low bandwidth and poor internet connection. That type of internet connection is too poor to support running a full node, but is fine for sending transactions as transactions are small. The satellite then allows you to receive blocks through something other than a poor internet connection.

Understood finally. Been scouring through their website for useful information on the ''one way link".. I get it now.

Although I can not understand how a satellite that requires expensive dish to connect would be useful to the poor.
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September 16, 2017, 07:51:03 PM
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Although I can not understand how a satellite that requires expensive dish to connect be useful to the poor.
Who said that it was supposed to be useful to the poor? You don't need to be poor to have a bad internet connection.

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September 17, 2017, 12:29:14 AM
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How does this go with decentralization?
Will the satellite emit random nodes?
Who will control all that?
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i don't see, why is this necessary ?
i mean, it will only send data, so we will receive unconfirmed tx and confirmed blocks. (maybe superquick)

we cant send anything to the satellite directly. so at the end of the day, we will need internet , to do transactions. to send transactions.,

i am not sure, to whom it will be useful.
imho it will be continuous  stream of txs, and few of the main servers which will act as nodes in bitcoin network, will send data to that satellite. which will get distributed .

instead its better to be connected to internet and act as a node, so you can get data and even send data. of
unconfirmed tx and confirmed blocks.

just my thinking, please correct me if i am wrong.

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edit1 :

just realized, the reason for not having bitcoin client on my home machine is because slow internet speed.

so for initial setup i can hook up dish setup, and get whole blockchain. but how will satellite send old data to only me ?

may be they can implement something like channels., on specific channels., old data is sent in loop.
while on another channel ,new tx data is sent.

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September 17, 2017, 05:31:10 PM
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i don't see, why is this necessary ?
i mean, it will only send data, so we will receive unconfirmed tx and confirmed blocks. (maybe superquick)

we cant send anything to the satellite directly. so at the end of the day, we will need internet , to do transactions. to send transactions.,

i am not sure, to whom it will be useful.
imho it will be continuous  stream of txs, and few of the main servers which will act as nodes in bitcoin network, will send data to that satellite. which will get distributed .

instead its better to be connected to internet and act as a node, so you can get data and even send data. of
unconfirmed tx and confirmed blocks.

just my thinking, please correct me if i am wrong.

I also don't quite get what the point is. I mean, it's better than nothing, but if you can only receive and not broadcast a transaction to the network (without regular internet) then, the people stuck in China for example, whose are going to get all bitcoin sites and nodes banned (and they seem serious, since they will look for Tor and VPN too) will not be able to transact their bitcoins even if they are receiving the blockchain thanks to the satellite.

I guess this is for the people that has really bad internet connection and can't receive the blockchain, but they have enough to send the transaction.

I wish we could also send transactions to the satellite and then spread it to the blockchain. How far are we from that? Because if we achieve that, we win. Even people in North Korea could transact.
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I also don't quite get what the point is...
it is not a problem, that people don't get it. But unnecessary to post it.  Angry
And what is the reason, that people ask, how far "we" are from using this service also as upstrem?  Huh
Can these people outline, what was their contribution?
Have they payed people to develop uplink software? Have they invested in hardware to create an uplink channel? Have they tried to reflect, what it needs, to get un uplink up and running? Have they even read the documentation and intention of this blockchain distribution channel?
The answer must be "no".

And yes, with a very little bit of imagination one could think about creatng a tx and bring it to a service like blockchain.info, which uploads to the blockchain. An SMS, a letter, a file, and other options come to mind.
Come on people, go beyond your barriers and limitations, and proof, that the complaints here are only preps for your next extension in the wonderful crypto world.

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September 27, 2017, 04:04:52 AM
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I have that same dongle, and I got it for ~$20 I think. It's on amazon, and comes with two antennas, some adapters, and the dongle itself. That website is also really helpful for setting up different things with it. I tried and got some AM Radio, the National Weather Service, police radios, and a few other things. It's a neat trinket: http://a.co/dFsVWBz

Sold out now. Dongle-only: https://www.amazon.com/RTL-SDR-Blog-RTL2832U-Software-Defined/dp/B0129EBDS2

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Anyone get one of these puppies up (or something similar?)

Mine is still in the box ...

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May 16, 2018, 04:04:51 PM
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I'd love to see Bitcoin launch a few cubesats via Elons SpaceX and get some nodes orbiting the globe... someday that will happen.   Grin

Cubesats is a viable option but the difficult part is getting them into orbit. There is more competition now in the space industry and the economical entry barrier is lower that is very good from a network decentralization perspective
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Was this project been placed on the back burner, whilst most attention is given to the Lightning Network now? The last attention given to this was in August of 2017. https://github.com/Blockstream/satellite/commits/master  Huh

Did the resignation of Gregory Maxwell have anything to do with this? < Could have been his pet project? > It is still a good project and no matter why this has been temporarily put on hold, it would still be very innovative for the future.  Wink

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Was this project been placed on the back burner, whilst most attention is given to the Lightning Network now? The last attention given to this was in August of 2017. https://github.com/Blockstream/satellite/commits/master  Huh

Did the resignation of Gregory Maxwell have anything to do with this? < Could have been his pet project? > It is still a good project and no matter why this has been temporarily put on hold, it would still be very innovative for the future.  Wink

Not sure....still a cool device ...(in case of Zombie Apocalypse or you live in Hawaii) Smiley

 

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I have no knowledge about satellite technology, but my concern is, are those devices capable of transmitting data or for receiving only? Much better if its design in two way link.

Recieve only. But for wallet use w/cell phone likely cheap and untraceable in a corrupt
Country with cell phone prepaid. Comes to mind anyway.

But what if you are in North Korea?  I was wondering if it would be possible to make the first transaction ever in Best Korea now that there are satellites broadcasting the blockchain.

But you say these devices only receive data. If so then how do you broadcast your transaction back into the blockchain if internet is blocked on the entire country and there are no wifi signals or anything? Let alone the fact that there aren't even computers or cellphones.

You would need a tourist to smuggle you a phone with wallet software installed, but even then, what do you exactly do with it?

I wonder who will be the first to manage to broadcast a bitcoin transaction in North Korea, that would be epic.
You can send raw transactions by fax or mail, even by sms (2G) with applis.

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Well has anyone managed either with parts and an old dish or with the stuff I mention...get this blockstream download to sing and dance a tune?

video?

details?

etc?


Hello have you tested it finally?

Is there another thread with testimonials please?
Thank you

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Well has anyone managed either with parts and an old dish or with the stuff I mention...get this blockstream download to sing and dance a tune?

video?

details?

etc?


Hello have you tested it finally?

Is there another thread with testimonials please?
Thank you

no there is this, however ..unsure if it works on this unit...but I suppose it must


https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/12/bitcoin-broken-free-from-isps-by-blockstream-satellite-connection-new-api/

mine is still in the box Sad

I keep hoping to get to it..but keep hoping someone else gets to it first and can hold my hand Smiley

anyway, a neat toy, IF/WHEN I ever get around to playing with it

BTC crashing 80% and all I've been dumping equipment (and coin) all year like a 9-year-old girl (including screaming and sobbing) ..thus all projects otther than getting my

BTC house in a row and protecting most of my BTC stash ...has been a moot effort.

later

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@Searing Thanks for the update


I found that (from "notgrubles")


https://hackernoon.com/building-your-own-bitcoin-satellite-node-6061d3c93e7

https://medium.com/@notgrubles/building-your-own-bitcoin-satellite-node-part-2-software-installation-a94a0b85d089

https://hackernoon.com/building-your-own-bitcoin-satellite-node-part-3-dish-alignment-1306b4c21326

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