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and can easily be integrated to our current working concept.
Sure, let us all know how that works out for you.

To anyone actually considering and capable of undertaking this project, I'd offer the following.

A membership site requires an adult designer (3-4k) and a custom CMS (2-4k), a membership management script capable of taking Bitcoin (1k if hardened). It makes no sense to offer shares (recurring income) for a one time expense.

If you build a site, it will then be on the radar of the large players- that's where they look. They think it terms of competing websites- not competing apps. So you've just substantially shortened your lead by announcing that your business model will work on their websites just fine. So their coders will get cracking. This website won't get any traffic without an affiliate program, that cuts into profits and requires a large advertising budget to get the word out to potential affiliates (1k month).

This is one of the problems with businesses started with outside capital- it's easy to spend other peoples money. If it was their own money the developers would come up with something simple and clever, if they have funding- lets have a money fight. If they don't get sacks of money, they claim they can't start anything because no one will fund them.

A simple App website advertising it's functionality (if you use the same UI designer as the app it saves money), and providing a Market link is sufficient. Ideally it's creation would be paid for by income generated from just the initial Android app. Done properly it requires more skill and planning than it does capital. The other guys always have more capital so it's a lousy tool to try and compete with.

All you need is a mobile app programmer, a lawyer and probably a UI designer- the latter two are a one time expense. There's really no need management or any additional staff beyond a single developer/owner. No one else is needed and they will just cannibalize profits and hurt growth. There is no reason this can't be bootstrapped by a single developer. The other skills required are modest, one time expenses.

Why do you think a CMS should cost so much? And whats an "adult designer". I have been looking at some of the top sites, livejasmin.com, www.cam4.com/ , www.sexcams4free.com/, and I honestly don't see anything special about any of them. I will most likely be designing the site, and judging by the #1's on google, the competition ain't seeming as tough as you're pushing Missy. Once again I urge you to look at the indisputable quality of my past work http://tweetforum.com, and tell me I can't design a template better than livejasmin, and if so are you serious? Remember a "design" in the end is just a template. A template that goes over which ever CMS we decide to use, and judging by my competition, I honestly think I can do way better. The most valid point you made was that this will take active promotion, and that's where all the investors that are signing on will come in. They will fuel the marketing aspect of all this, I have a very big PR campaign planned, and I am looking for all the help I can get.

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June 25, 2011, 07:17:47 AM
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Why do you think a CMS should cost so much? And whats an "adult designer".

An adult website designer is someone who specialized in high-conversion site designs. Conversion ratio is the percentage of people who visit your site, to those whom signup. It is expressed at 1/500 etc. Better quality traffic improves your conversion ration, as does website design.

A reputable Adult site designer will have a portfolio of sites with community known conversion rates. Their skills are honed by designing, then refining hundreds of sites through multi-variant testing. The top designers have waiting lists several months long- and the hard numbers to justify it. An inexpensive designer may convert at 1/2000, and expensive one at 1/700.

Since conversions are recurring income, and designers are a one time expense, it is seldom worth saving yourself a small amount of money, and losing far more every month for the duration of that designs use. The most basic of newbie mistakes is DIY design, the design pays for itself faster than anything.

I have been looking at some of the top sites, livejasmin.com, www.cam4.com/ , www.sexcams4free.com/, and I honestly don't see anything special about any of them.

I'm sure you don't. That's why this is a profession and everyone can't just walk up and get rich.

I will most likely be designing the site, and judging by the #1's on google, the competition ain't seeming as tough as you're pushing Missy.

Of course, it's easy. Most people just never think of putting up a template, a few stock scripts and grabbing 10% of the market. Kudos to you for being the first to try.

Once again I urge you to look at the indisputable quality of my past work http://tweetforum.com

You used a free forum script (SMF), and changed one image in a stock template (Dziner). So you can use FTP, congratulations. This is the basis for your rather unrealistic assessment of your skill set.

tell me I can't design a template better than livejasmin, and if so are you serious?

Yes. Failing to understand even what defines a "better" design, or how that is quantified, you are unlikely to achieve it.

Remember a "design" in the end is just a template. A template that goes over which ever CMS we decide to use, and

You won't be able to use a stock CMS for a live streaming chat application. It's not like your site where you uploaded a single folder and that was it.

judging by my competition, I honestly think I can do way better.
A more frighting example of the Dunning–Kruger effect I have never seen. It's a bit like watching a train wreck.
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June 25, 2011, 07:40:09 AM
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A membership management script capable of taking bitcoin costing $1000 plush an adult designer which costs $3000 to $4000? and custom CMS? why does it have to be custom if your going to pay THAT much just do it from scratch... and if your paying $1000 for a web design your getting over charged. I've never in my life have seen a $1000 web site design in my entire 10 years of porn viewing experiences they are all cookie cutter HTML+css with some gradients which take 2 seconds to make.
I was able to integrate bitcoins into my redistributable software in a day... A DAY!! why does it cost this much for porn??
Who are is your programming team so I know who not to get ripped off from... get a life



and can easily be integrated to our current working concept.
Sure, let us all know how that works out for you.

To anyone actually considering and capable of undertaking this project, I'd offer the following.

A membership site requires an adult designer (3-4k) and a custom CMS (2-4k), a membership management script capable of taking Bitcoin (1k if hardened). It makes no sense to offer shares (recurring income) for a one time expense.

If you build a site, it will then be on the radar of the large players- that's where they look. They think it terms of competing websites- not competing apps. So you've just substantially shortened your lead by announcing that your business model will work on their websites just fine. So their coders will get cracking. This website won't get any traffic without an affiliate program, that cuts into profits and requires a large advertising budget to get the word out to potential affiliates (1k month).

This is one of the problems with businesses started with outside capital- it's easy to spend other peoples money. If it was their own money the developers would come up with something simple and clever, if they have funding- lets have a money fight. If they don't get sacks of money, they claim they can't start anything because no one will fund them.

A simple App website advertising it's functionality (if you use the same UI designer as the app it saves money), and providing a Market link is sufficient. Ideally it's creation would be paid for by income generated from just the initial Android app. Done properly it requires more skill and planning than it does capital. The other guys always have more capital so it's a lousy tool to try and compete with.

All you need is a mobile app programmer, a lawyer and probably a UI designer- the latter two are a one time expense. There's really no need management or any additional staff beyond a single developer/owner. No one else is needed and they will just cannibalize profits and hurt growth. There is no reason this can't be bootstrapped by a single developer. The other skills required are modest, one time expenses.

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A membership management script capable of taking bitcoin costing $1000 plush an adult designer which costs $3000 to $4000? and custom CMS? why does it have to be custom if your going to pay THAT much just do it from scratch... and if your paying $1000 for a web design your getting over charged. I've never in my life have seen a $1000 web site design in my entire 10 years of porn viewing experiences they are all cookie cutter HTML+css with some gradients which take 2 seconds to make.
I was able to integrate bitcoins into my redistributable software in a day... A DAY!! why does it cost this much for porn??
Who are is your programming team so I know who not to get ripped off from... get a life
Haha. Well said sir. You guys want to see a working example of a Bitcoin porn site. Here you go: http://wetcoin.co.cc
I made it in like 4 fucking days entirely by myself. The co.cc domain was free. I simply host it as an add-on domain to one of my existing hosting accounts. So the whole thing basically cost me nothing. Except for the porn videos, which were cheap anyway. And I've basically made that back now anyway. I do need some more videos though.

Note: you obviously wont be able to be a cheap ass like me when it comes to a hosting a cam site though.

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June 25, 2011, 09:22:15 AM
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A membership management script capable of taking bitcoin costing $1000 plush an adult designer which costs $3000 to $4000

Hardened members script. Or have fun paying your bandwidth bill the first time your ditsy htpassword file gets hacked. Good server admins can probably do this themselves. Popular porn sites come under near constant attack- good server admins can make excellent money doing pen-testing and hardening.

Some Adult sites- say an Amateur site, can be competitive with far less expensive design and code- because you can swap out tour images and text pitches to refine it. You already have a certain USP in having an exclusive model so don't need to rely on so heavily on design to differentiate your product.

If you plan to be competitive in a very crowded niche, with many similar looking services, you will need a high-end designer and CMS. Hiring this designer will be something you advertise that will cause affiliates to join your program. They may not know you, but they have promoted other sites by this designer so know how it will convert. So aside from the hard numbers, it is a marketing tool to attract affiliates.

Top designer guy:
http://www.wyldesites.com
He charges in the 5k+ range I was discussing and has a very long waiting list.

Standard paysite CMS:
https://www.adultinterface.com/pricing

So either all the top players in a multi-billion dollar industry are dumber than you, or perhaps you are making assumptions in an industry you have never successfully worked in. In much the same way that people make assumptions about Bitcoin without fully researching it. Opening a penny-ante hobby site, is different from earning a living off of it- or running a corporation behind it.

As you can see, there is good money to be made in adult coding- which is why I advised a code based project, over a much more competitive design and marketing based one. But you gentleman have it all figured out so can come up with something far better.

You guys want to see a working example of a Bitcoin porn site. Here you go: http://wetcoin.co.cc

18 U.S.C. 2257, 28 CFR § 75.6 (a)
Bitcoin and 2257 violations are not a good combo. Even if you only have eight videos it's not a formality- they enforce. People who play it fast and loose with documentation, or use content of unknown origin tend to be quickly blacklisted by the industry. No one wants to to down with your ship.

Whether or not I am completely ignorant about Adult sites, and starting a successful, competitive one is as easy as some claim is an easy thing to verify. Give it a shot. Get back to us with your results.
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Except for the porn videos, which were cheap anyway. And I've basically made that back now anyway. I do need some more videos though.
Nice site Smiley

May i ask for the source of your videos and if your business is officially legal? Smiley

suggestions:
- offer monthly access instead of pay per view only. In my experience monthly access pays better than ppv when it comes to pure video sites (not talking about live shows).
- a "recent updates" page as landing page. Users are lazy, categories are nice but just showing the list videos in order how they were added to the page will get you more clicks
- previews! short free video previews, a view high res preview pictures
- smaller logo. the logo of your site inside the videos is imho too big. i would only put the address of your site in the videos
- who's in the video? porn starlet catalog

I really hope you didn't just download those videos anywhere and are now trying to sell them. If i find any of our videos there, i will hunt you down , haha Grin
I'm thinking about offering bitcoin payment on a view sites too, but before i do that i need some legal questions answered from the official side/finance authority (how to tax it and such...)
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Thank you.

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Who's asking, LeFBI?  Grin It's just a website where you can download porn. It's no more "legit" than a gambling website.

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- offer monthly access instead of pay per view only. In my experience monthly access pays better than ppv when it comes to pure video sites (not talking about live shows).
I thought about it and I might do it at a later stage, when I have more content and more traffic.

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- a "recent updates" page as landing page. Users are lazy, categories are nice but just showing the list videos in order how they were added to the page will get you more clicks
That's a good idea too, and I probably will create something like that soon. But a problem is having explicit stuff on the home page. I like having the warning text on the landing, that way they know what they're heading into.

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Those little preview pics are all there are, I'm afraid. It already takes too long to watermark and upload videos as it is. If they want more, they know how to get it.  Wink

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- smaller logo. the logo of your site inside the videos is imho too big. i would only put the address of your site in the videos
Mmmm, I think it's ok how it is. Can't be bothered changing it now. I want to work on the code as much as possible, graphics design isn't really my strong point. I just sort of use simple but effective techniques. edit: oh, you mean in the actual videos. It is a bit big, and I might re-encode them as you said, with just the website address in the corner.

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Nah, wetcoin is just a random conglomerate of porn videos. It's unlikely we'd ever get more than 3 videos off the same girl.

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I really hope you didn't just download those videos anywhere and are now trying to sell them. If i find any of our videos there, i will hunt you down , haha Grin
No, I paid a reasonable sum of money for the videos I have on there. I bought them on a freelancer website under the specific conditions I would be able to sell them and that they had to be unmarked so I could apply my own watermarks to them. So I've done all I can, I have provided clear ways for webmasters to contact me if they think I've uploaded copyrighted material.

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June 25, 2011, 10:19:26 AM
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Oh wow did you just get tired of doing naughty things for free and did a google search for starting your own porn site?
Seriously, a monthly license for $150? a lifetime license for $4000!
Bandwidth bills!? Look at your computer clock just to make sure its not set to 1995
I havent heard of a bandwidth bill since I was 15 years old....

UPDATE: those types of software packages are for those that don't want to risk hiring a people and not deliever with their advertised skills
with those types of applications your personally guaranteed what your getting since its right in front of you the features list and all.

Sorry blond-e but your assuming that you know everything about the porn industry because you probably run a successful porn site suitable for "YOU". Your brain can't processes anything out of your own experience. This project isn't for one women that can just be ran by her lil'ol self.



A membership management script capable of taking bitcoin costing $1000 plush an adult designer which costs $3000 to $4000

Hardened members script. Or have fun paying your bandwidth bill the first time your ditsy htpassword file gets hacked. Good server admins can probably do this themselves. Popular porn sites come under near constant attack- good server admins can make excellent money doing pen-testing and hardening.

Some Adult sites- say an Amateur site, can be competitive with far less expensive design and code- because you can swap out tour images and text pitches to refine it. You already have a certain USP in having an exclusive model so don't need to rely on so heavily on design to differentiate your product.

If you plan to be competitive in a very crowded niche, with many similar looking services, you will need a high-end designer and CMS. Hiring this designer will be something you advertise that will cause affiliates to join your program. They may not know you, but they have promoted other sites by this designer so know how it will convert. So aside from the hard numbers, it is a marketing tool to attract affiliates.

Top designer guy:
http://www.wyldesites.com
He charges in the 5k+ range I was discussing and has a very long waiting list.

Standard paysite CMS:
https://www.adultinterface.com/pricing

So either all the top players in a multi-billion dollar industry are dumber than you, or perhaps you are making assumptions in an industry you have never successfully worked in. In much the same way that people make assumptions about Bitcoin without fully researching it. Opening a penny-ante hobby site, is different from earning a living off of it- or running a corporation behind it.

As you can see, there is good money to be made in adult coding- which is why I advised a code based project, over a much more competitive design and marketing based one. But you gentleman have it all figured out so can come up with something far better.

You guys want to see a working example of a Bitcoin porn site. Here you go: http://wetcoin.co.cc

18 U.S.C. 2257, 28 CFR § 75.6 (a)
Bitcoin and 2257 violations are not a good combo. Even if you only have eight videos it's not a formality- they enforce. People who play it fast and loose with documentation, or use content of unknown origin tend to be quickly blacklisted by the industry. No one wants to to down with your ship.

Whether or not I am completely ignorant about Adult sites, and starting a successful, competitive one is as easy as some claim is an easy thing to verify. Give it a shot. Get back to us with your results.
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I havent heard of a bandwidth bill since I was 15 years old....
You judge this by your home dsl flatrate? for servers you (sadly) have to pay for their bandwith
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I havent heard of a bandwidth bill since I was 15 years old....
You judge this by your home dsl flatrate? for servers you (sadly) have to pay for their bandwith
Not necc. it depends who your hosting with. But if you use a .SWF based system the bandwidth use will be minimal. Bandwidth is seriously the last thing we're worried about here.

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I will be honest, I didn't understand half the stuff you said. Most of it was irrelevant, but you had a good way of putting your points out.

Vegetta do you self a favour and read every word she's written until you DO understand.  Read it a thousand times if necessary, it's some of the best advice you're ever gonna get and she's giving it you free despite the torrent of abuse you're throwing at her... Maybe she likes it, who knows.

I'm a professional web dev and I've lost count of the number of times I've been approached by someone with a great idea that's going to be the next facebook and as long I can work for free I can have a little cut.  I would do it if she asked me, I don't give my respect to whores easily but she earned it in one post and built on it in every one that followed.  You on the other hand have shown yourself to be petulant with an out of control ego.  If you want to succeed don't take all advice as criticism and when it is criticism listen to it instead of getting defensive.  There's something to be learned even from the most unjustified of criticism.

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Not necc. it depends who your hosting with.
Who hosts VOD services without bandwith limitations? (serious question! i really would like to know and ask for their conditions)

But if you use a .SWF based system the bandwidth use will be minimal.
With SWF you can reduce the traffic on classic video download sites, because the user can play the videos online and skip to the part where he wants to fap to and doesn't need to download gigabytes. Bandwith prices were also the reason why Brazzers for example had there HD videos limited in the beginning, users had to pay extra $$$ if they wanted HD. Then they implemented HD streaming and everyone can now download HD without extra payment. They didn't do this just for the user, they did it because it reduced the bandwith usage. But this scenario doesn't apply to a cam site, you can't skip a minute forward there. In the beginning it sure won't be a problem on a cam site but if the sites lifts up...any Hoster will contact you sooner or later if you hit their bandwith limit....they will "kindly ask" to discuss new contract conditions ...that's at least my experience ^^,
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Not necc. it depends who your hosting with.
Who hosts VOD services without bandwith limitations? (serious question! i really would like to know and ask for their conditions)

But if you use a .SWF based system the bandwidth use will be minimal.
With SWF you can reduce the traffic on classic video download sites, because the user can play the videos online and skip to the part where he wants to fap to and doesn't need to download gigabytes. Bandwith prices were also the reason why Brazzers for example had there HD videos limited in the beginning, users had to pay extra $$$ if they wanted HD. Then they implemented HD streaming and everyone can now download HD without extra payment. They didn't do this just for the user, they did it because it reduced the bandwith usage. But this scenario doesn't apply to a cam site, you can't skip a minute forward there. In the beginning it sure won't be a problem on a cam site but if the sites lifts up...any Hoster will contact you sooner or later if you hit their bandwith limit....they will "kindly ask" to discuss new contract conditions ...that's at least my experience ^^,

Ever thought of us just simply self hosting it? I def have the connection, and the power to host it myself if it comes down to it..

EDIT:Like I said this is of minimal concern right now. Right now we need 1 graphics designer, and a few more investors, and we will have a serious group of people ready to make bitcams.com theirs.

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Lol, I pm'ed her asking her exactly what she was after.

I've read the entire thread... it seems to me she wasn't after anything... just offering (good) free advice that fell on deaf ears.

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I am not going to lie to you guys, someone like her would be an extremely valuable asset to the team. I am just trying to figure out what she's after lol. Thats all..

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Some people just naturally write long posts like that. I've tried to keep my posts somewhat shorter on here but if you checked my post history you'd see a couple posts that go on longer than the typical post.

It usually goes like "Oh, hey, someone's misguided on the internet, I'll write a short but detailed post to helpfully show something", and then as you write it, you realize there's so much detail that you don't want to leave out, and about 30 minutes later you've got a nice long post on your hands detailing much more than you intended.

Does she need a motive? She's human, is she not? Just a bit more literate and completion-oriented than you, it seems. Hell, even this relatively short post is going on much longer than I thought it would.

She gave you good advice. You ignored it, questioned her motives, and went on with this silliness.

So basically, you are too amateur to properly run this. I also like how you spelled "grammar" "grammer" in the original post. Nice.

Edit: And "excepting" instead of "accepting". Apparently you will accept shares from anyone, aside from shares from investors, which you are excepting.

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So basically, you are too amateur to properly run this. I also like how you spelled "grammar" "grammer" in the original post. Nice.

Edit: And "excepting" instead of "accepting". Apparently you will accept shares from anyone, aside from shares from investors, which you are excepting.

C'mon now, let's keep things to the topic and not be stupid about accidentally spelling errors on forums.  We are all human, the fact that you bring this up at all makes one question your motives in this thread now too.  Either way, again, errors happen all over for everyone.

I'm sure I'm the one they are laughing it. Grin Grin

Obviously amusing as hell, I know I was laughing 'it' her.  It's like when someone online points out another person is a 'moran'.... but it is stupid, who cares, accident, if you got the point, that is what matters.

Jessy at this point definitely seems as though is just trying to be harmful PR-wise to anyone not wanting to establish a successful site using her methods.  She can't accept that it is possible otherwise, that is fine.


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Some people just naturally write long posts like that. I've tried to keep my posts somewhat shorter on here but if you checked my post history you'd see a couple posts that go on longer than the typical post.

It usually goes like "Oh, hey, someone's misguided on the internet, I'll write a short but detailed post to helpfully show something", and then as you write it, you realize there's so much detail that you don't want to leave out, and about 30 minutes later you've got a nice long post on your hands detailing much more than you intended.

Does she need a motive? She's human, is she not? Just a bit more literate and completion-oriented than you, it seems. Hell, even this relatively short post is going on much longer than I thought it would.

She gave you good advice. You ignored it, questioned her motives, and went on with this silliness.

So basically, you are too amateur to properly run this. I also like how you spelled "grammar" "grammer" in the original post. Nice.

Edit: And "excepting" instead of "accepting". Apparently you will accept shares from anyone, aside from shares from investors, which you are excepting.
Thanks for all the great spelling observations sir. You are exactly what we need on the team, an editor! Are you here to fill out for the position, or just here to simply troll sir?  Smiley

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Aw man, see what I'm talking about? This post got way too long. Tongue

C'mon now, let's keep things to the topic and not be stupid about accidentally spelling errors on forums.  We are all human, the fact that you bring this up at all makes one question your motives in this thread now too. Either way, again, errors happen all over for everyone.
Point granted, I am regularly amused by your quality posts by the way. Smiley I was just put off by his own slightly trollish behavior.

Given that the thread is so long I skimmed a lot of it, if I had noticed her misspelling I no doubt would have pointed it out as well. Not that this is a decent behavior that adds to the community, I'm just saying, equal treatment and all.

Watching all the people who would typically call someone like her a troll, flying to her defense is so amusing. This is why she has so much control, because of weak-minded males who need to be told what to do 24/7 & bend over to a few fancy words.
There is no way to prove otherwise, so all I can really do here is say that that honestly had absolutely nothing to do with it. I'm just a fellow long-winded talker who often corrects things that I feel need to be corrected because of simple compulsion, and understood why she was doing what she was doing. You have no reason to believe this, but it doesn't really matter anyway.

Edit: On the subject of her supposed attractiveness, that avatar looks like an advertising image or some licensed image, not an actual picture of her. That's the vibe I got from the instant I looked at the avatar, so I know there was no subconscious bias. (Again, not that you have any reason to believe me, just thought I'd point it out.)

Thanks for all the great spelling observations sir. You are exactly what we need on the team, an editor! Are you here to fill out for the position, or just here to simply troll sir?  Smiley
Well, I'm definitely not here to troll and it would be appreciated if you would stop calling everyone who disagrees with you a troll. Yes, I was being mocking, and that was unnecessary, but hey, I'm a human.

However, I do have very good grammar and general handle on the English language and assuming you're willing to put aside the brief personal differences and are actually serious about this, I'd be interested in filling the position. I'm obviously pedantic to a degree and have noticed typos in all sorts of websites that should know better. (I don't think perfect spelling is intrinsic in any way, I'm not stupid, but it's an arbitrary standard that when not followed implies an unprofessional business.)

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Aw man, see what I'm talking about? This post got way too long. Tongue

C'mon now, let's keep things to the topic and not be stupid about accidentally spelling errors on forums.  We are all human, the fact that you bring this up at all makes one question your motives in this thread now too. Either way, again, errors happen all over for everyone.
Point granted, I am regularly amused by your quality posts by the way. Smiley I was just put off by his own trollish behavior and the slight hypocrisy in these misspellings.

Given that the thread is so long I skimmed a lot of it, if I had noticed her misspelling I no doubt would have pointed it out as well. Not that this is a decent behavior that adds to the community, I'm just saying, equal treatment and all.

Watching all the people who would typically call someone like her a troll, flying to her defense is so amusing. This is why she has so much control, because of weak-minded males who need to be told what to do 24/7 & bend over to a few fancy words.
There is no way to prove otherwise, so all I can really do here is say that that honestly had absolutely nothing to do with it. I'm just a fellow long-winded talker who often corrects things that I feel need to be corrected because of simple compulsion, and understood why she was doing what she was doing. You have no reason to believe this, but it doesn't really matter anyway.

Thanks for all the great spelling observations sir. You are exactly what we need on the team, an editor! Are you here to fill out for the position, or just here to simply troll sir?  Smiley
Well, I'm definitely not here to troll and it would be appreciated if you would stop calling everyone who disagrees with you a troll. Yes, I was being mocking, and that was unnecessary, but hey, I'm a human.

However, I do have very good grammar and general handle on the English language and assuming you're willing to put aside the brief personal differences and are actually serious about this, I'd be interested in filling the position. I'm obviously pedantic to a degree and have noticed typos in all sorts of websites that should know better. (I don't think perfect spelling is intrinsic in any way, I'm not stupid, but it's an arbitrary standard that when not followed implies an unprofessional business.)
I am serious about a full site editor. We want our content to be quality. I am no pro at the English language, yet I try to get better at it every day. Half the time when I misspell or make obvious mistakes, it's cause I'm running on about 4 hours of sleep total. I work very, very hard and half the time I can't even review my own posts. This forum in itself is so time consuming, and I am hoping to get this project under way by Monday or Tuesday so I can spend alot less time on here wasting time...  Once the site is done, I think we will be hiring an editor to go in and improve our content. Your on my list. (And yes I will pay you or anyone I choose to do this editing task. )

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