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January 18, 2018, 06:42:01 PM
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Ridiculous they won’t support mining but they will making a mining expert moterhbosrd. Absolute garbage response from ASUS

You must understand that income from mining motherboards and mining cards are irrelevant when you compare that profits with gaming motherboards and gaming cards.
Also this was their first mining board, so it's still working in progress in hardware and bios level.

Because of very small market that holds, you cannot expect from them to have dedicated team for this type of product.
We must admit to our self that most miners still use regular motherboards and gaming GPU-s in their rigs.



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January 18, 2018, 06:45:43 PM
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Ridiculous they won’t support mining but they will making a mining expert moterhbosrd. Absolute garbage response from ASUS

You must understand that income from mining motherboards and mining cards are irrelevant when you compare that profits with gaming motherboards and gaming cards.
Also this was their first mining board, so it's still working in progress in hardware and bios level.

Because of very small market that holds, you cannot expect from them to have dedicated team for this type of product.
We must admit to our self that most miners still use regular motherboards and gaming GPU-s in their rigs.





Then it would make more sense if they made a mb for regular gpu. Not for mining gpu:)
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January 18, 2018, 08:05:53 PM
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Actually it would not make more sense, because this way they can experiment with both branches, if the experiment goes well, profit from mining GPU-s could rise exponentially, also bare in mind that mining GPU-s have 3-6 month warranty so they have little or none failure return in such small period of time.

Problem with mining GPU-s are also very little or zero stock in some countries, and they cannot provide expected quantity, so 100% mining or 100% gaming GPU-s mbo with 15-19 slots  would not be logical  at this time due to logistic problems.


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January 18, 2018, 08:49:36 PM
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Also this was their first mining board, so it's still working in progress in hardware and bios level.


 No, this was NOT the first ASUS "mining board".

 It IS the only board that supports more than 13 slots on the MB though, to date, from any manufacturer.


 It's not practical to "experiment with both branches" when most folks can't GET the P106 or P104 mining-specific cards, and there is NO logical reason to restrict the board to needing such cards to get to 14+ GPUs supported.



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January 19, 2018, 04:25:49 AM
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why do mining cards work in addition to nvidia cards? the mining cards use the same driver dont they? so what makes a mining card work vs a geforce card? Anyoe try quadros?
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January 19, 2018, 07:35:32 AM
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Also this was their first mining board, so it's still working in progress in hardware and bios level.


 No, this was NOT the first ASUS "mining board".

 It IS the only board that supports more than 13 slots on the MB though, to date, from any manufacturer.


 It's not practical to "experiment with both branches" when most folks can't GET the P106 or P104 mining-specific cards, and there is NO logical reason to restrict the board to needing such cards to get to 14+ GPUs supported.




What do you mean this wasn't their first mining board?

I don't know any other mbo from asus that was meant for this purpose only.

All other boards are advertised as gaming motherboards (Asus prime and similar), they have bios settings that can be used for mining but that boards are not mining boards.

All other boards for mining are from Asrock or Biostar.


You can check the result of this link:

https://www.asus.com/us/search/results.aspx?SearchKey=mining



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January 19, 2018, 07:38:16 AM
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why do mining cards work in addition to nvidia cards? the mining cards use the same driver dont they? so what makes a mining card work vs a geforce card? Anyoe try quadros?

 We don't know ask ASUS, yes, no clue ask ASUS, I don't have any to try.

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January 19, 2018, 07:58:09 AM
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why do mining cards work in addition to nvidia cards? the mining cards use the same driver dont they? so what makes a mining card work vs a geforce card? Anyoe try quadros?

Pretty sure the miner cards are headless so they register differently in Linux than regular cards that have HDMI/VGA outputs and such. Never had a quadros to try, but I'm sure someone has.
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January 19, 2018, 11:37:55 AM
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Would it be possible to Flash a 1060 into a P106 so the board sees it as a headless GPU?

Call me an idiot. But it seems logical some how.

It seems logical. Maybe we need a customized bios for the mb or gpu.
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January 19, 2018, 08:49:30 PM
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does anyone have a bios config list for this mobo? no combination seems to work stable or scalable (one config works with 9cards but not with 8 cards) my cards are doing like 4 o 5 hashes or less on smos
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January 20, 2018, 04:20:33 AM
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can onboard graphics be toggled on and off? I couldn't find the setting in bios.
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January 20, 2018, 09:59:17 AM
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can onboard graphics be toggled on and off? I couldn't find the setting in bios.

Yes it can be, options you are looking for is called "iGPU", this board is actually using GPU from CPU if it has one. Board doesn't have gpu on its self.

To disable it:

You must go in BIOS under Advanced - Graphics Configuration - iGPU Multi monitor - Disabled
Also you must select Primary Display and set it to "Auto" or  PCIE


I personally  don't mind to have iGPU enabled.
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January 20, 2018, 11:30:58 AM
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can onboard graphics be toggled on and off? I couldn't find the setting in bios.

Yes it can be, options you are looking for is called "iGPU", this board is actually using GPU from CPU if it has one. Board doesn't have gpu on its self.

To disable it:

You must go in BIOS under Advanced - Graphics Configuration - iGPU Multi monitor - Disabled
Also you must select Primary Display and set it to "Auto" or  PCIE


I personally  don't mind to have iGPU enabled.

I guess it is best to use iGPU than a GPU used for mining?
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January 20, 2018, 12:34:20 PM
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Yes it can be, options you are looking for is called "iGPU", this board is actually using GPU from CPU if it has one. Board doesn't have gpu on its self.

To disable it:

You must go in BIOS under Advanced - Graphics Configuration - iGPU Multi monitor - Disabled
Also you must select Primary Display and set it to "Auto" or  PCIE


I personally  don't mind to have iGPU enabled.

I guess it is best to use iGPU than a GPU used for mining?

That's exactly how I have setup my rigs.
On a rigs that have igpu options available,  I'am using igpu as my primary display.
I have one rig with xeon that doesn't have integrated GPU, on that machine i have just pluged in HDMI on one of the cards.

But in that combination i have random spikes of GPU core frequency on card that has plugged hdmi cable.

 
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Hey guys I'm having the same issue with this motherboard but I'm pretty sure this is not only tied to this mnf or model

I want my integrated graphics as default for my monitor and if I leave the windows drivers which is the 388 just be then everything works fine
But every-time I try to install 390 from nvidia one of my 1080's take over and I have to go to the bios again setup from "Auto" to "CPU Graphics" again (move the hdmi cable and all)

I cannot turn off the pc afterwards cuz it goes back to Auto, and it's been a headache cuz I just want all the cards to have the same performance and not one sending video to the monitor

Do any of you have a fix for this?

Thanks in advance

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January 21, 2018, 08:07:33 AM
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Hi guys

BIIIIIIIIIG problem here
Anyone solved that?

- 13 RX580 8GB XFX on B250 MBO
- last bios updated for MBO
- original BIOS for GPS's
- Using simplemining OS
- no overclock for GPu's

AWFUL RESULTS:
ETH - Total Speed: 14.022 Mh/s, Total Shares: 3, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:22
ETH: GPU0 0.876 Mh/s, GPU1 1.317 Mh/s, GPU2 1.642 Mh/s, GPU3 1.642 Mh/s, GPU4 0.657 Mh/s, GPU5 1.317 Mh/s, GPU6 0.000 Mh/s, GPU7
2.629 Mh/s, GPU8 0.876 Mh/s, GPU9 1.317 Mh/s, GPU10 0.000 Mh/s, GPU11 0.875 Mh/s, GPU12 0.876 Mh/s

Same awful results on any scrypt.
I have tried one full day to mix power suply, risers, all !!!
Any idea?
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January 21, 2018, 08:33:37 AM
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Hi guys

BIIIIIIIIIG problem here
Anyone solved that?

- 13 RX580 8GB XFX on B250 MBO
- last bios updated for MBO
- original BIOS for GPS's
- Using simplemining OS
- no overclock for GPu's

AWFUL RESULTS:
ETH - Total Speed: 14.022 Mh/s, Total Shares: 3, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:22
ETH: GPU0 0.876 Mh/s, GPU1 1.317 Mh/s, GPU2 1.642 Mh/s, GPU3 1.642 Mh/s, GPU4 0.657 Mh/s, GPU5 1.317 Mh/s, GPU6 0.000 Mh/s, GPU7
2.629 Mh/s, GPU8 0.876 Mh/s, GPU9 1.317 Mh/s, GPU10 0.000 Mh/s, GPU11 0.875 Mh/s, GPU12 0.876 Mh/s

Same awful results on any scrypt.
I have tried one full day to mix power suply, risers, all !!!
Any idea?

Same on cryptonight, 10x lower results than expected...
[09:17:04] Accepted 013659ba Diff 13.8M/120K GPU 2
[09:17:16] Accepted 2b624518 Diff 387K/120K GPU 6
[09:18:25] Accepted 2aa59bd9 Diff 393K/120K GPU 12
[09:19:48] Accepted 645763de Diff 167K/120K GPU 9
[09:20:13] Accepted 019b81f8 Diff 10.4M/120K GPU 2
[09:20:37] Accepted 327538dd Diff 332K/120K GPU 7
[09:21:47] Accepted 259dd12f Diff 446K/120K GPU 10
[09:27:07] Accepted 747e5c11 Diff 144K/120K GPU 7
(5s):841.6 (avg):1.606Kh/s | A:960011 R:0 HW:0 WU:0.577/m
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January 21, 2018, 10:35:04 AM
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Hi guys

BIIIIIIIIIG problem here
Anyone solved that?

- 13 RX580 8GB XFX on B250 MBO
- last bios updated for MBO
- original BIOS for GPS's
- Using simplemining OS
- no overclock for GPu's

AWFUL RESULTS:
ETH - Total Speed: 14.022 Mh/s, Total Shares: 3, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:22
ETH: GPU0 0.876 Mh/s, GPU1 1.317 Mh/s, GPU2 1.642 Mh/s, GPU3 1.642 Mh/s, GPU4 0.657 Mh/s, GPU5 1.317 Mh/s, GPU6 0.000 Mh/s, GPU7
2.629 Mh/s, GPU8 0.876 Mh/s, GPU9 1.317 Mh/s, GPU10 0.000 Mh/s, GPU11 0.875 Mh/s, GPU12 0.876 Mh/s

Same awful results on any scrypt.
I have tried one full day to mix power suply, risers, all !!!
Any idea?

do you have the same result when you try them one by one ? Have you tried other pcie slots?

13 GPU Nvidia Rig running under Ubuntu 16 (eth hash rate: 300+Mh/s @ 1000W for whole rig): 3x EVGA GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 65W) + 6x MSI Armor GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 70W) + 1x MSI GTX 1060 (24Mh/s @ 65W) + 3x Zotac GTX 1060 (24MH/s @ 65 W). PSU 2400W, Asrock ASRock H110 Pro BTC+, cheap Chinese risers, Kingston SSD 120Gb, 8Gb memory. Selling some of my GPUs (around 200€, still under warranty), if you're interested, contact me in private.
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January 21, 2018, 04:03:03 PM
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Hi guys

BIIIIIIIIIG problem here
Anyone solved that?

- 13 RX580 8GB XFX on B250 MBO
- last bios updated for MBO
- original BIOS for GPS's
- Using simplemining OS
- no overclock for GPu's

AWFUL RESULTS:
ETH - Total Speed: 14.022 Mh/s, Total Shares: 3, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:22
ETH: GPU0 0.876 Mh/s, GPU1 1.317 Mh/s, GPU2 1.642 Mh/s, GPU3 1.642 Mh/s, GPU4 0.657 Mh/s, GPU5 1.317 Mh/s, GPU6 0.000 Mh/s, GPU7
2.629 Mh/s, GPU8 0.876 Mh/s, GPU9 1.317 Mh/s, GPU10 0.000 Mh/s, GPU11 0.875 Mh/s, GPU12 0.876 Mh/s

Same awful results on any scrypt.
I have tried one full day to mix power suply, risers, all !!!
Any idea?

do you have the same result when you try them one by one ? Have you tried other pcie slots?

Found the problem... it was my fault, in OC page i leaved bkank OC fields.
Leaving blank those fields does not mean that the GPU will work at stock bios values. Leaving OC fields blank are resulting in 10% mining performance, as you can see....
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January 26, 2018, 08:00:09 PM
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Currently running ten cards on this motherboard and am having trouble getting number eleven to work.

My setup:   Have not connected Molex power connectors onto the motherboard since I am using powered  PCIe 1x -> 16x risers.

  • 16 GB of RAM, Win 10 64 bit Professional, Intel i3 processor
  • Not using the PCIe 16x slot since I was having trouble with the riser cable (long ones were too expensive  Roll Eyes)
  • The first bank of six PCIe 1x slots is running RX 580 cards
  • The second bank of PCIe 1x slots is running two RX 580 cards and two 1070 cards

This configuration was stable and mining 24x7 until I got four additional 1070 cards last night. I like adding cards one at a time so I am focused on getting the 11th card working now. What I'm seeing is that the fan on the new cards spins up for 20 seconds and then shuts off. The card does not show up in device manager after windows boots up.

Also not seeing the POST screen that shows the status of each slot since my monitor stays blank until the system boots into Windows. I have found that connecting my monitor to a different card will display the POST screen but it seems to move around!

Question 1:Is there a BIOS setting or other way to reliabily get one particular graphics card / HDMI output to show the POST screen since its the best feature of this motherboard?

Things that I have tried already to get my 11th card working are:

  • Swapped out the riser
  • Swapped out one of the working 1070 cards with the new card (all other connections remained unchanged) - this resulted in the new card getting detected

Question 2:Any leads on what else I can try to get the 11th Card (3rd 1070) working? It looks like something in the BIOS / MB is preventing it.
Question 3:Do I need to hook up a third power supply for when I get to Card 13 and 14 (power draw wise I think I am ok)? But will using the third bank of slots require a 3rd PSU ?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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