Colonising Planets

[RankoYS]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

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[ridery99]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

No it won't. Civilization will face major wars and problems during this century and space programs will get halted eventually. People don't want to fund something they don't even believe anymore (flat earth). There will be more entertainment and people are already seeking mainly pleasures, especially in the west, they don't want to achieve anything anymore.

[joebrook]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

In order to colonize other planets, we need to first get there, And seeing as we haven't invented any spaceship that can make the trip very effectively, the fastest spaceship according to my research will take 39 days that's the closest but on the average, its going to take 162 days that' about 6 months to travel from earth to move. we need to develop spaceships that can travel faster before we think about colonizing other planets.

[allthingsluxury]

As long as we continue to advance and as long as we continue to innovate, then yes, we will undoubtedly do just this. It is the natural progression of mankind to "get offworld". Already we are beginning mining operations on the moon, that they project will turn a profit. This is the first step.

[Gyro]

No I do not think this is possible.

Other planets are not going to have the same atmosphere as ours. Chances are we're not going to be able to breath on these planets. Also there is the problem with all these new microscopic nasties that will inevitably invade our bodies and cause problems.

Living on mars inside domes isn't what I call colonizing, that's just visiting..

[Vod]

Other planets are not going to have the same atmosphere as ours. Chances are we're not going to be able to breath on these planets.

Mathematical nonsense. 

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

[Selmor]

I guess it is possible and it will happen.

Nevertheless, we will not witness it any more.

Probabbly SpaceX is a good start http://www.spacex.com/

[Flodner]

I'm sure they will do, but we probably won't see it
Elon Musk and many other great guys are thinking about it and working on it

[Sithara007]

Other planets are not going to have the same atmosphere as ours. Chances are we're not going to be able to breath on these planets.

Mathematical nonsense. 

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

OK.. I agree with you. But if that planet is 10,000 light years away, could you please enlighten me on how to travel to these planets? If you use a normal mode of transport, then it may take trillions of years.

[Vod]

OK.. I agree with you. But if that planet is 10,000 light years away, could you please enlighten me on how to travel to these planets? If you use a normal mode of transport, then it may take trillions of years.

Sleeper ships!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1355644/

[Foxpup]

Mathematical nonsense. 

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

Chemical nonsense. 

You won't find an oxygen atmosphere on a planet by chance; oxygen is far too reactive to exist naturally in a free state. You know why water's the most common compound in the universe? Because hydrogen is the most common element, so whenever there's oxygen around - BOOM! Oxygen also reacts with carbon to form carbon oxides, silicon to form rock, and metals to form rust: all of which can be found in varying levels of abundance on other planets, but no free oxygen.

The only reason Earth has oxygen in its atmosphere is because algae and plants are constantly producing it as a waste product, and the only way another planet can have oxygen is if it already has life like ours, which may be inconvenient for colonists.

[sibisi666]

We need to solve propulsion system, to get better speeds, our technology is not developed yet as it should be. In couple of years, we will be ready Also i think, that's wrong to colonize the Mars, there is no such good living conditions there. It would be much better to spend few years more, and find out some better planet - earth like, and then to take off

[Thyaga]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

I think humans will create a combined space soldier composed of people all over the world, (when technology is sophisticated) when the food on earth has begun little or Earth's endangered they will be attacking another planet to seize its natural resources.

[Xester]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

I think humans will create a combined space soldier composed of people all over the world, (when technology is sophisticated) when the food on earth has begun little or Earth's endangered they will be attacking another planet to seize its natural resources.

Colonizing planet is not impossible to happen in the reality because of the technologies that are being invented and that will produce in the future. I think Colonizing planet is the only solution to the overpopulation that is happening now and if the planet earth will destruct in the future. We should be ready because maybe in the future many disease will be relevant and the only solution to not having it is transferring to other planet.

[immortal7000]

Only a few people on this planet have asked the questions of the colonization of other planets, we need the support of the whole world. And mankind only knows how to kill each other and ignite new wars.

[Flodner]

The whole world will support this, after it becomes more real, and after population grown to enormous numbers (they are already large as for me)

[BADecker]

Other planets?!!  People are talking about reducing populations here! We need greater populations to think up and build the machines that it takes to go to the stars. And, the earth can hold a far greater population. See my post at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2035052.msg21323214#msg21323214.

Let's increase the populations so that we can make it to other planets.

[Vod]

People are talking about reducing populations here! We need greater populations to think up and build the machines that it takes to go to the stars

That's not true - again..   

We don't need more people - we have too many as it is.

We need smarter people.  Ones that don't believe in fairy tales.     

[spazzdla]

Yes or we all die here.  Why because the earth will be destroyed by the sun.   I am hoping religion all falls apart and humans embrace science....  it is a long shot..

[Vod]

Yes or we all die here.  Why because the earth will be destroyed by the sun.   I am hoping religion all falls apart and humans embrace science....  it is a long shot..

Intelligent people need to stand up (which we are starting to do) and call BULLSHIT whenever some fool brings up the idea of religion.  The only reason religion propagates is because ignorant parent passes it on to gullible naive child.

The internet is helping - any fool can now look online and see proof that the murder of millions of people by a great flood never happened.

[spazzdla]

Yes or we all die here.  Why because the earth will be destroyed by the sun.   I am hoping religion all falls apart and humans embrace science....  it is a long shot..

Intelligent people need to stand up (which we are starting to do) and call BULLSHIT whenever some fool brings up the idea of religion.  The only reason religion propagates is because ignorant parent passes it on to gullible naive child.

The internet is helping - any fool can now look online and see proof that the murder of millions of people by a great flood never happened.

Indeed, alas Islam is sweeping over the planet like the plague... It's brutality for suggesting the Koran could be wrong is pretty scary. Perhaps when we move past oil it's financial situation will cause it to lose it's insane grip.

[galestorm]

Its possible for humans to colonize another planet though the problem is that no habitual planet has ever been discovered yet. Well, there are some but its bot quite that stable and safe. Plus, it will take years before a human can even land on one though it can be changed if a certain person has invented a super fast spaceship.

[The_prodigy]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

I think humanity would first try to colonize Mars as this is the nearest and most same climate or atmosphere as ours. They would try to find ways on how to introduce life there, slowly and usrely moving people from Earth to Mars. People would need to move from Earths as from what it is happening now, wars, climate change and nuclear explosion are very real and people would be curious if we can start over agin if there is a chance then we'll take it.

[microlovr]

I have my doubts that the human race will be able to survive long enough be able to develop a civilization on another planet/moon. It is seeming ever more likely that humans are built to self destruct in some way or another...don't think it will be earthlings who will be living on other planets. Crikey, that's really depressing!

[HODLwearz]

I'm not really convinced humans can leave the planet. The idea that we can leave this planet seems like a very egocentric idea. Or that we are the first intelligent beings in the universe and that's why we haven't been visited by other civilizations etc... etc... I just don't think that's in the deck of cards. Humans can't even coexist together on this rock, anyway. Pretty sure the Van Allen Belt is impenetrable by living beings.

[kokojie]

It can happen given time of course, but not any time soon. The technology simply isn't there. Need probably another 500 years minimum of development before it can become a remote possibility.

[Guzztsar]

Yes or we all die here.  Why because the earth will be destroyed by the sun.   I am hoping religion all falls apart and humans embrace science....  it is a long shot..

This quest of mankind to leave the planet, seems to be the life itself manifesting the desire to spread and continue existing.

[Sithara007]

I have my doubts that the human race will be able to survive long enough be able to develop a civilization on another planet/moon. It is seeming ever more likely that humans are built to self destruct in some way or another...don't think it will be earthlings who will be living on other planets. Crikey, that's really depressing!

The science and technology is not progressed enough for the humans to colonize other planets. It may take another 1,000 or 2,000 years to achieve that. But the sad thing is that our planet will become uninhabitable much before that date.

[Guzztsar]

I have my doubts that the human race will be able to survive long enough be able to develop a civilization on another planet/moon. It is seeming ever more likely that humans are built to self destruct in some way or another...don't think it will be earthlings who will be living on other planets. Crikey, that's really depressing!

The science and technology is not progressed enough for the humans to colonize other planets. It may take another 1,000 or 2,000 years to achieve that. But the sad thing is that our planet will become uninhabitable much before that date.

It's easier for us to get self-extinguished before that, but earth will remain habitable for much longer

[michaelch]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Based on how rapid our technologies are advancing, it's hard to imagine the day won't come when we're able to start a colony on a different planet. It may take decades, centuries or even millenniums, but I think the day will definitely arrive. Unless, of course, some catastrophic event on planet Earth happens first.

[eagle10]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

We have already colonized earth. We can colonized other planets as well in the near future. And the original inhabitants here are the animals and the organisms discovered by the scientists million years ago.

[avirdoz]

Pondering this question, I trace a chain of thoughts:
who will discover a new planet, who will invent the technology to do this, who will be physically ready to explore new planets? Why do we think that someone will do it, but not we and not our descendants, instead for example, Elon Musk)?
Speaking about the possibility of development of planets, each have to prepare yourself first - by improving the mind and body. Okay, not we, but your descendants will be at the forefront and ready for anything.

[BADecker]

People are talking about reducing populations here! We need greater populations to think up and build the machines that it takes to go to the stars

That's not true - again..   

We don't need more people - we have too many as it is.

We need smarter people.  Ones that don't believe in fairy tales.     

Fairy tales are good to believe in. They stimulate the thinking with ideals of grandeur. The problem with science fiction is, some of it is difficult to stop believing.

[Vod]

Fairy tales are good to believe in. They stimulate the thinking with ideals of grandeur. The problem with science fiction is, some of it is difficult to stop believing.

Finally something we agree on!

Help is available when you want to stop believing.  I am willing to help you.

[Ionut Bornea]

This subject is a sad one for me. I think that we are running out of time and the risk of nuke ourselves increases as years are passing by.

If only a fraction of the trillion dollars spent on arms and wars would be spent in research and financing brave pioneers to push to the stars the leap would be enormous.

Nations are fighting on Earth for resources when we could invest more in space technology and get up there and take whatever we need to live in peace.

Unfortunately, I don't see a major change of mind regarding the way majority of the people are thinking.

I've seen in the past couple of years that the private initiatives are starting to take shape and some of them achieved great things. But this is not fast enough!

We need nations to get together and spend 2-3% of their GDP investing in space technology so we can have a chance to get to a point where we will have at least another strong, self-sufficient human colony on another planet than Earth. Only then we can have the guarantee that in an unfortunate event such as self-annihilation or being smashed by a meteorite or comet the human race would survive.

It bothers me to imagine that after all the pain and sweat and sacrifices that the humans made so far, a stupid thing such a lightheaded politician or a big rock coming from space can obliterate the memory of all our achievements, art, songs, tells and knowledge.

[TheCoinGrabber]

Well we would have to, eventually. It would still be long till the Sun gobbles up our planet but if climate change continues, we could end up like Venus. Though it seem the public is not enthusiastic anyway. With the war on science, isolationism and populism becoming more common, funding could get redirected to other stuff.

Mathematical nonsense. 

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

Chemical nonsense. 

You won't find an oxygen atmosphere on a planet by chance; oxygen is far too reactive to exist naturally in a free state. You know why water's the most common compound in the universe? Because hydrogen is the most common element, so whenever there's oxygen around - BOOM! Oxygen also reacts with carbon to form carbon oxides, silicon to form rock, and metals to form rust: all of which can be found in varying levels of abundance on other planets, but no free oxygen.

The only reason Earth has oxygen in its atmosphere is because algae and plants are constantly producing it as a waste product, and the only way another planet can have oxygen is if it already has life like ours, which may be inconvenient for colonists.

Also scientist have recently mentioned that planets with liquid water on the surface might be rarer than expected. They were kinda hoping that icy planets would become more habitable as their suns expand but it turns out that is more unlikely. https://phys.org/news/2017-07-planets-hospitable-earth.html

[maciak]

I hope we could colonising Mars and Moon at least

[Sithara007]

I have my doubts that the human race will be able to survive long enough be able to develop a civilization on another planet/moon. It is seeming ever more likely that humans are built to self destruct in some way or another...don't think it will be earthlings who will be living on other planets. Crikey, that's really depressing!

The science and technology is not progressed enough for the humans to colonize other planets. It may take another 1,000 or 2,000 years to achieve that. But the sad thing is that our planet will become uninhabitable much before that date.

It's easier for us to get self-extinguished before that, but earth will remain habitable for much longer

I don't know. If the Carbon dioxide levels increase, then the planet may not remain suitable for human habitation. But that doesn't mean that the other species will also become extinct. Obviously, at least some of them are going to survive.

[legend2017]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

It is possible that someday it will be so. But I think that it will not be very soon. We will definitely not see this. Although I would like.

[Darklinkz]

There's a possiblity but with the progress I'm seeing with the space team, I think it will take many, many decades to be able to find a habitable planet.

[Jerry_Hype]

How about Earth? Nice planet, big potential

[Kotone]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

That was our plan the whole time. Even when we were kids we were fed with this idea that man is destined to go out of this olanet and tame and explore the vastness of the cosmos. However that would be something that we still need to reasearch and look on.

[SugoiSenpai]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Maybe it could happen in the future. Given humanities needs for innovation, it is not impossible for Humans to find a way to live in the outside world or other planets. It just takes the right equipment, planet, and the people to make it successful. Scientists have already stated that this is possible if we find an effective way to go to the planets that resembles the earth's systems as similar as possible. For sure it would not be anytime soon because the materials and knowledge are too insufficient for scientists to even create something that would bring humanity closer to an exoplanet that would sustain life.

[Sniar]

As at ancient times there were travelers seafarers also someday there will become astronauts travelers through the Universe   

[Solmir]

Ofcource we will. Eventually we wont be able to live on only one planet - its just non-max-efficient strategy, as min. As max - its just inevitable perspective

[falafelnut]

I think it's possible. Maybe not now. But in the future.
All discoveries and developments first where just ideas...

[gabmen]

I think it's possible. Maybe not now. But in the future.
All discoveries and developments first where just ideas...

I think this is closer to science fiction than becoming realized and we may not have the technology yet at this time to make.this come true. Too many risk that doesn't have a fall back. We may very well be doomih the first people that we send for that colonization

[ettessuta]

it may effect but effect need long time (more than 50 years ) so this is our sons problem not us  

[Swinging Phallus]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Yes, Most definitely. And seeing the rate at which technology is advancing I think it may be even possible within the next century. There will be massive obstacles to hurdle through but it is possible. It's startling even looking at the intelligence curve of current AI systems.

[BitcoinNational]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Maybe it could happen in the future. Given humanities needs for innovation, it is not impossible for Humans to find a way to live in the outside world or other planets. It just takes the right equipment, planet, and the people to make it successful. Scientists have already stated that this is possible if we find an effective way to go to the planets that resembles the earth's systems as similar as possible. For sure it would not be anytime soon because the materials and knowledge are too insufficient for scientists to even create something that would bring humanity closer to an exoplanet that would sustain life.

It's not only a matter of equipment and people. If we found a suitable planet to live on, I doubt that we will able to reach it, how long would last the travel? How many basic material should be bring on board of the space ship?
There is a colossal problem!

[last7minutes]

Undoubtedly, humanity will try to create colonies on other planets, and it does not matter that ecology, poverty, hunger, incurable diseases are spoiled on its planet, they will still try to colonize the dead Mars and spend a lot of money on it.

[BADecker]

Undoubtedly humanity will continue to try all kinds of stupidity, including the stupidity of colonizing other planets. If humans had a little sense, they would work at doing the easy thing... colonizing the rest of the earth.

[Happy Miner]

Colonization of the planets of the solar system is very expensive. Therefore, there will not be a large colony. Even the flight to Mars now looks problematic.

[Lukas Tarantas]

It is still too early to talk about the colonization of other planets. Now, even on the moon, it is impossible to build an inhabited base. It will cost too much, but there will be no profit.

[WhaleHunter]

I have often problema already in colonizing my own kitchen, who easily gets colonized by creatures whom I didn't invite. So I would not try for something so much more difficult...

[jin_dv]

Hello all. We have so much dirtied our planet that soon will really have to leave it, because to live here is impossible

[BADecker]

Hello all. We have so much dirtied our planet that soon will really have to leave it, because to live here is impossible

'Dirt Is Good': Why Kids Need Exposure To Germs

As a new parent, Jack Gilbert got a lot of different advice on how to properly look after his child: when to give him antibiotics or how often he should sterilize his pacifier, for example.

After the birth of his second child, Gilbert, a scientist who studies microbial ecosystems at the University of Chicago, decided to find out what's actually known about the risks involved when modern-day children come in contact with germs.

"It turned out that most of the exposures were actually beneficial," Gilbert says. "So that dirty pacifier that fell on the floor — if you just stick it in your mouth and lick it, and then pop it back in little Tommy's mouth, it's actually going to stimulate their immune system. Their immune system's going to become stronger because of it."

Gilbert is now the co-author of a new book called Dirt is Good: The Advantage of Germs for Your Child's Developing Immune System. Presented in a Q&A format, the book seeks to answer many of the questions Gilbert has fielded from parents over the years.

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

Read more at https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/07/16/537075018/dirt-is-good-why-kids-need-exposure-to-germs.

[yoseph]

It is still too early to talk about the colonization of other planets. Now, even on the moon, it is impossible to build an inhabited base. It will cost too much, but there will be no profit.

The first thing to tackle is first and foremost is how to get to the planets in the first place. The current spacecraft that we have are unable to travel to planets at the speed that we require them to go if we need to colonize the planets.

[PandoraToken]

I guess if we will ever colonise other planets the mainstream media would find the way to tell us lies also about that.

[BADecker]

It is still too early to talk about the colonization of other planets. Now, even on the moon, it is impossible to build an inhabited base. It will cost too much, but there will be no profit.

The first thing to tackle is first and foremost is how to get to the planets in the first place. The current spacecraft that we have are unable to travel to planets at the speed that we require them to go if we need to colonize the planets.

To the stars by atom bomb: The incredible tale of the top secret Orion Project

This is real. We have the way. But government shelved the program. See: https://newatlas.com/orion-project-atom-bomb-spaceship/49454/.

[nhattori27]

Well, human colonization of solar system is inevitable. Mars is the focus of much scientific study of possible human colonization. I don't think we could go any further in the next 100 years.

[Sithara007]

Well, human colonization of solar system is inevitable. Mars is the focus of much scientific study of possible human colonization. I don't think we could go any further in the next 100 years.

Human colonization of Mars would require huge amounts of effort, time and money. I am not sure whether it is worth all this. We have our own planet, where there is enough room for everyone. What is the need to waste so much money in colonizing other planets? On the other hand, we can utilize that money to make our planet more habitable.

[smurfik32]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

If this happens, it will be in the distant future. Now mankind spends a lot of money on wars and conflicts. But they could use this money to develop technologies, with which it was possible to study the possibility of settling other planets.

[BADecker]

Well, human colonization of solar system is inevitable. Mars is the focus of much scientific study of possible human colonization. I don't think we could go any further in the next 100 years.

Human colonization of Mars would require huge amounts of effort, time and money. I am not sure whether it is worth all this. We have our own planet, where there is enough room for everyone. What is the need to waste so much money in colonizing other planets? On the other hand, we can utilize that money to make our planet more habitable.

I agree. In the Population thread, I show people ways that we can use the earth to make room for as many as 100 billion people, but they just ignore me. One of the ways is Seasteading, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2035052.msg24537230#msg24537230. Are there that many trolls in that thread? Are they bound to come over here if we make this a thread for turning Earth into the paradise for many that it can be?

[-Redacted-]

most likely Mars will be the first where we can colonize)) the planet is not the limit?

[cr_liev]

I think we will destroy this planet sooner than we are able to colonise other planets. And I believe it's fair. We don't deserve to live on other planets if we destroy ours

[TraderRay]

Sounds like a great idea. Hawkings is already working on finding life outside the planet, so that's a good start

[Iwuzhaxxed]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

No it won't. Civilization will face major wars and problems during this century and space programs will get halted eventually. People don't want to fund something they don't even believe anymore (flat earth). There will be more entertainment and people are already seeking mainly pleasures, especially in the west, they don't want to achieve anything anymore.

Speak for yourself pal. I live in the west and we don't want to achieve anything anymore really? Do you believe the earth is flat?

[innocent93]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

The colonization of other planets, i think it is similar with the ancient colonization of Amazon, it's just that the distance between planets is different, in rest we relay on explorers.

[CryptoDens]

NASA has long been doing research on which planet can be inhabited by humans, probably more than 20 years NASA studied it. There are some planets similar to Earth, one of the best candidates is the planet Mars, the surface of Mars is almost similar to Earth, some minerals are also similar to minerals on earth, oxygen levels are thinner than earth, and its gravity is smaller than earth. For example, our weight on the earth about 80 kg on the planet Mars may be about 60 kg, because the gravitational force on the planet Mars is smaller than the earth. We all hope the next few years can be completely inhabited by humans and all plants including animals from the earth.

[Bitcoininspace]

Overpopulation will force us to colonize other planets. Can I go first to Mars?

[Lukas Tarantas]

I think that in 50 years on the Moon there will be a stationary inhabited base. There will be extracted helium-3 for thermonuclear reactors. And then a base will be built on Mars.

[BADecker]

The media and Government are lying to you when they talk about going to other planets.

Back in the 1950s, they told us that soon we would be going to the moon. Their projections were for the end of the 1960s or the early 1970s. They said we would have bases on the moon. They said that there would be public travel to the moon every week. They lied. How do we know that they lied? Here's how.

In the early '60s they shelved a project that could take us to Saturn and back in as little as 4 years. A trip to Mars in a couple of months, easily. And they never even told the public that the project existed, or why they shelved it.

Then they funded the stupid NASA space program which almost doesn't work, just to make it look like they really had something. Fact is, there's tons of evidence around that all those NASA space movies, including the moon landings, are fake... even if NASA really did go to the moon.

All their space travel dream-spreading is BS to get more funding. If they actually did what they had said, they did it in secret, and they haven't told anyone like they promised.

To find out about this, go here https://newatlas.com/orion-project-atom-bomb-spaceship/49454/.


If you want to go to other planets, figure out how to do it on your own, or with some friends of yours. Government isn't going to take you there. They lie.

[bosede1]

Mars is another planet which have the capability of supporting lives, so I think colonies will be created here first

[zoran.drobnjak]

Yes it will happen, but in a very distant future.

First-Our economy needs to evolve beyond existence of private property and towards creation of a common value for all in a meritocratic society.
Second-Robots with AI need to have bulit-in protective mechanism against any form of rebellion against us.
Third-Armies of selfreplicating AI robots will be sent out to perform terraforming of suitable planets in our own solar system at first, or depending on their efficiency they could even collect fragments of material from asteroid belt and build artificial twin-Earths further away from the Sun as it gets hotter over time.

Timeline for this to occur is 1000...x years ahead of our time unfortunately, we actually have only a marginal chance to witness it ourselves - to be placed in a cryogenic chamber and then to be unfrozen after 1000...x years.   

[Kotone]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

First I think we would have to be able to travel great distances in space before anything else. The time and space laws of physics during soace travel is fivkle and we would have to be able to brave it first before even thinking about colonizing it.

[Tuvualala]

All planets are gravity wells. Until mankind will not create super engine like Star Wars colonising is economically unprofitable. Just think how many power and money we need to deliver 1 kg of cargo to orbit. Colonising have only one reasone - create "Second Earth" if Terra will be destroy.
IMHO, real revolutoin for human expansion at that moment - it's living in open space within asteroid worlds or huge arks.

[Sithara007]

Mars is another planet which have the capability of supporting lives, so I think colonies will be created here first

Mars is not ideal for human habitation. The atmosphere is full of Carbon dioxide and other toxic gases and the gravity is about half of that in the earth. And there is no ozone layer there, which protects the inhabitants from the harmful solar radiation. If we want to live in Mars, then we will be forced to wear anti-radiation suits 24x7.

[jonland22]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

This is debatable right now since we don't have the full capacity to do so, let the technology develop some years more and maybe people can start talking about it, though i believe there will be a time that humanity will start colonizing planets outside our solar system or even our galaxy.

[serhiopower]

Humanity is more colonised rather than colonising 

[ahkiatt]

I think it will be done, just not in our lifetime, the tech just isn't developed enough.

Just hope our earth does not boil in the meanwhile.

[micleeiu398]

Colonization of the planets of the solar system is very expensive. Therefore, there will not be a large colony. Even the flight to Mars now looks problematic.

World is getting advance day by day. With the passage of time new discoveries and inventions are taking place. Humanity will make colonies on other planet as well. Scientists an this idea that how with less expenses one can travel to other planets. Day by day they are unveiling new secrets about outer world astronomers are working on

[renes]

No please, we are not already beneficial living beings for our nature.

[BADecker]

Colonization of the planets of the solar system is very expensive. Therefore, there will not be a large colony. Even the flight to Mars now looks problematic.

World is getting advance day by day. With the passage of time new discoveries and inventions are taking place. Humanity will make colonies on other planet as well. Scientists an this idea that how with less expenses one can travel to other planets. Day by day they are unveiling new secrets about outer world astronomers are working on

Only fools want to live for 200 or 300 years in a bubble. And that is what it will be for those colonizing other planets... like prison. Why? Because terraforming is something that we aren't even close to being able to do. In fact, we are barely even able to guess at how to start doing it without first visiting a planet to see what it is like so that we can start to guess what to do to terraform it. Long before then age reversal will have been developed, so that anybody living on a planet that needs to be terraformed will have been living there for several hundred years before he dies... living in a bubble where he can't enjoy the great outdoors... just like he was in prison.


Aging Reversal tests in dogs by 2019 and then in human tests by 2022 if that works

This article (interview with George Church) originally appeared in Endpoints. An excerpt is included below, and the complete story can be found here. The interview with George Church at Endpoints is the source of the next three paragraphs in italics, which are statements from George Church.

George Church describes the roadmap for to human aging reversal treatments

We will see the first aging reversal test in dog trials in the next year or two. If that works, human trials are another two years away, and eight years before they're done. Once you get a few going and succeeding it's a positive feedback loop.

His company Rejuvenate Bio is actually working on the dog trial now.

Read more at https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/11/aging-reversal-tests-in-dogs-by-2019-and-then-in-human-tests-by-2022-if-that-works.html

[BADecker]

Regarding my above post, perhaps it would be beneficial to send prisoners to the other planets.

Force-send the really bad prisoners to the other planet. Tell them that they can have freedom out of the bubble if they develop the terraforming process. Some of them might commit suicide, but others will want to live. They might even become rehabilitated into good people from working so hard on getting out. It could happen just like Australia when it was first colonized as a penal colony.

Remember, there would be little travel between earth and the other planet. Why? Expensive. Right now Governments are having a difficult time getting back to the moon. Once on another planet, those people would essentially be lifers there.

Even terraforming moon tunnels and caves is something that is expensive beyond any thought of our being able to do it right now.

[z38630610]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

We see you prediction in many scientific film productions. I also think like you and believe that some outstanding people will go to other planets like Mars and they will start to live there. There are many researches about it. If we think that many scientific films had turned out to be in the right, this is not a dream.

[SexForCryptos]

Before being able to colonize other planets I am afraid we will have to wait for the tecnological singularity to produce the necessary instruments for doing that. But then, perhaps it will be our robots and their AI to do the colonization.

[Sithara007]

Is it even worth the money and effort in colonizing the other planets? It is going to cost many hundreds of trillions of USD in doing that. If we spend a fraction of that amount here on earth, we can make this planet more inhabitable for everyone, including humans. Technological progress is not a bad thing. But we need to know about our priorities.

[DesmondHayes]

Colonising will happen eventually but not in this century. There are beliefs that man didn't actually step on the moon when Apollo mission was presented and with that rumor how can we even colonize planets in the near future when we maybe haven't made the first crucial step that includes living beings in the other surrounding. Technology is advancing and everything that we are seeing in the SCFI movies will happen eventually. The only problem for colonizing would be some war that would put humankind in the bad position and also some natural disaster that would make the impact on the whole world. People are smart and the population is expanding every day. Natality is high and with that fact colonizing other planets is inevitable in the far, far future.

[J Gambler]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Human race would still have a long way to go before we go on to colonizinng planets. THERe still a lot of unknown to the world. And the universe is so vast that or secrets are still just curling out of the corner into our laps. To colonize planets we really are a long way off

[Sniar]

Colonising will happen eventually but not in this century. There are beliefs that man didn't actually step on the moon when Apollo mission was presented and with that rumor how can we even colonize planets in the near future when we maybe haven't made the first crucial step that includes living beings in the other surrounding. Technology is advancing and everything that we are seeing in the SCFI movies will happen eventually. The only problem for colonizing would be some war that would put humankind in the bad position and also some natural disaster that would make the impact on the whole world. People are smart and the population is expanding every day. Natality is high and with that fact colonizing other planets is inevitable in the far, far future.

And don't forget we need to rebuild our society and politic. We can't colonize anything when a different countries are fighting with each other like a stray dogs. And also we should pre-discover all that hides on OUR planet (Earth). Even nowadays scientists are discovering new animals, microorganisms, etc.. Just read anything about Mariana Trench and you'll got what I mean. So I'm quite agree with you, that might be in far, far future.

[trako]

As days go by, the number of scientists who think that man will eventually have to spread through the Solar System is increasing. We do not yet know when we will do this; but you are confident that the time is approaching quickly. And this situation will have inevitable consequences for the human species.

The generation of people who go beyond the conditions we are accustomed to in the world may eventually become different species!
The people living on the other planet will be separate branches separated from the branch of the person on the Evolutionary Tree. They will probably evolve into another species.
This evolution can happen very quickly if we can build functional colonies so that people living on Heleeki outer planets can only pay for their basic needs!

[coolcoinz]

I wish I could live to see it. Of course it's much easier to colonize the oceans than another planet, especially in our proximity. The solar system lacks good planets that are easy to inhabit. We'd need hundreds of years of terraforming to turn one of them into a new Earth. I'd rather see those money spent on preserving our planet and maybe creating underground and underwater cities with vegetation. We have so much room on our planet that we aren't using.

[Sexie]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

.                IT is impossible , its been long time that they always trying to Go outsize earth but untilil Now human cant  be  exist  in other planet.

[Sithara007]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Human race would still have a long way to go before we go on to colonizinng planets? There still a lot of unknown to the world. And the universe is so vast that or secrets are still just curling out of the corner into our laps. To colonize planets we really are a long way off

Sooner or later, it is going to happen. But the question remains. Are we getting enough ROI on these investments. There is a huge cost associated with each of these plans. And the tax payer is going to bear them. Although spending money on the space program is still better than spending them on needless wars, I am not sure whether this must be a major priority for us.

[Veidt]

Elon Musk has us covered in planet colonisation.. Those trained austronauts he will send will be the colonisers, they will create families on mars.. They wont come back to earth, but they will try to create a new earth.

P.S. It is not certain that they will succeed, and once they are out there, there is no turning back.. Isn't it scary. Imagine the scenarios.

[arafat1209]

Mars is the focus of much scientific study about possible human colonization. Its surface conditions and the presence of water on Mars make it arguably the most hospitable of the planets in the Solar System, other than Earth. Mars requires less energy per unit mass (delta-v) to reach from Earth than any planet except Venus.
Permanent human habitation on a planetary body other than the Earth is one of science fiction's most prevalent themes. As technology has advanced, and concerns about the future of humanity on Earth have increased, the argument that space colonization is an achievable and worthwhile goal has gained momentum. Other reasons for colonizing space include economic interests, long-term scientific research best carried out by humans as opposed to robotic probes, and sheer curiosity.

[Sithara007]

Elon Musk has us covered in planet colonisation.. Those trained austronauts he will send will be the colonisers, they will create families on mars.. They wont come back to earth, but they will try to create a new earth.

P.S. It is not certain that they will succeed, and once they are out there, there is no turning back.. Isn't it scary. Imagine the scenarios.

Elon Musk is a fraud and a cheater. He is completely useless and he never delivers on his promises. If anyone is going to colonize Mars, I can assure you that it is not going to be Elon Musk. He is just empty talk and no action. He is only interested in fleecing money from his unsuspectful investors.

[jonnybravo0411]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Someday, in the distant future, if humanity does not die out, then they will be able to colonize some kind of planet. Now this is not realistic.

[JesusCryptos]

This will eventually be possible, but not in a very near future. Stll too many technological problems to solve first. The first and foremost is that planets beyond our solar system are for the moment totally out of our reach.

[Flodner]

Elon Musk is a fraud and a cheater. He is completely useless and he never delivers on his promises. If anyone is going to colonize Mars, I can assure you that it is not going to be Elon Musk. He is just empty talk and no action. He is only interested in fleecing money from his unsuspectful investors.

Why you don't like him? It seems he is much better than many other tech entrepreneurs, and in general he is appreciated in crypto-community.
I read book and him and he seems to be interesting. He has a goal, he has a vision.
I see you are Legendary member, so I'm really interested in your opinion, you probably know about him more than me.

Also interesting article about Cryptocurrency philosophy and politics, Musk is mentioned there
https://steemit.com/politics/@voloshyn/cryptocurrency-philosophy-and-politics-right-wing-and-left-wing-influences

[Snub]

This will eventually be possible, but not in a very near future. Stll too many technological problems to solve first. The first and foremost is that planets beyond our solar system are for the moment totally out of our reach.

it has always been a big question for me why we need to spend so much effort and money to create life on other planets and why we don't spend as much effort to support the life of this planet?

[Tuvualala]

it has always been a big question for me why we need to spend so much effort and money to create life on other planets and why we don't spend as much effort to support the life of this planet?

The only reason to colonising any planet of Sol system with modern level of technology - it's creation of "second Earth" if Terra will be destroy.

[Sithara007]

This will eventually be possible, but not in a very near future. Stll too many technological problems to solve first. The first and foremost is that planets beyond our solar system are for the moment totally out of our reach.

Definitely that is a major issue. For example, let's say that an exoplanet is 1,000 light years away from earth. How is it even possible to travel to that planet, given that we can never achieve the speed of light? Right now we are able to travel at around 1/10,000th of the speed of light, and at that rate, it will take 10 million years to reach this planet.

[LivingDeath]

First step will be a base on the moon. Then we'll be on mars. Then, with new technologies, mankind will reach other galaxies. But this will take more than 5 generations.
What is also interesting, is colonising moons of other planets in our solar system.

[ivanovhristo14]

It is all about survival, no matter what we do , there will be some point in future where we will regress (technologically) or culturally(wars divisions etc). If we don do it fast we(the humans) will be doomed. Thanks God, we have Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.

[joebrook]

Elon Musk has us covered in planet colonisation.. Those trained austronauts he will send will be the colonisers, they will create families on mars.. They wont come back to earth, but they will try to create a new earth.

P.S. It is not certain that they will succeed, and once they are out there, there is no turning back.. Isn't it scary. Imagine the scenarios.

Elon Musk is a fraud and a cheater. He is completely useless and he never delivers on his promises. If anyone is going to colonize Mars, I can assure you that it is not going to be Elon Musk. He is just empty talk and no action. He is only interested in fleecing money from his unsuspectful investors.

Instead if wasting all these money in the attempt of colonizing other planets, why don't we just make the one that we currently have more habitable for everyone and stop pollution the only world that we have. Clearly the mars mission is not going to work .

[mixelalex]

If the exploitation of our planet remains at the same level as now, the colonization of others will become inevitable. As in "Interstellar".

[ico_aida_market]

Instead if wasting all these money in the attempt of colonizing other planets, why don't we just make the one that we currently have more habitable for everyone and stop pollution the only world that we have. Clearly the mars mission is not going to work .

'cause the most powerful and richest men won't stop their production here so easily.

[ico_aida_market]

Elon Musk is a fraud and a cheater. He is completely useless and he never delivers on his promises. If anyone is going to colonize Mars, I can assure you that it is not going to be Elon Musk. He is just empty talk and no action. He is only interested in fleecing money from his unsuspectful investors.

What can you say to the fact that he changed the concept of a vehicle to the electromobile in the whole world?

[jman0war]

We don't have a choice.
We have to become a space-faring species if we want to survive.
The sun is expanding and will consume the earth, but before that the 'habitable zone' where surface water exists, will have moved further out from Earth.

[Heisenberg8]

At this rate of growth technology is capable of making this possible in a couple of centuries imo... Experiments on Mars may happen earlier but it's just scientific purpose.

[ico_aida_market]

We don't have a choice.
We have to become a space-faring species if we want to survive.
The sun is expanding and will consume the earth, but before that the 'habitable zone' where surface water exists, will have moved further out from Earth.

We may kill our planet much sooner than being consumed by the sun. 5 billion years is almost an infinite number for the human race.

[Sithara007]

We may kill our planet much sooner than being consumed by the sun. 5 billion years is almost an infinite number for the human race.

You are right. Forget about 5 billion years, we may not even survive for another 100 years, at this rate. Almost 1% of the forests are being cut down annually and the human population is increasing at a rate of around 1.5% per year. Populations with high IQ (Koreans, Chinese, Europeans.etc) are declining in number and low IQ people (Arabs, Africans.etc) are increasing their population.

[kengeorge21]

It is highly possible as the deterioration we made to our planet over the pas decades has been gone faster ever since the industrial era started but these activity will happen only if we can make a ship and technology that can keep our bodies fresh and young since traveling in the space will surely take sometime plus the energy that will be used for transportation.

[CoinOnTheBeach]

it is very difficult to predict what major scientific breakthroughs are coming our way.
if I had to bet it safe, I would say that we might not witness it ourselves.
maybe our children will.

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

[Sunday4ever]

I think for a long time people will not be able to colonize any planet in the Universe. We need a very good technology that people have yet.

[messi1306]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

It's possible ,i believe scientists can do that , although there are many difficulties

[chaoscoinz]

Mans conquest of the heavens is inevitable. 200 years ago we had steam powered engines, telephones, and a bicycle.  Today we have rocket ships, cellular smart phones, and atomic energy.
   Colonizing other planets isn't a matter of "if", but a matter of "when"! We only seem to account for the technology we know is readily available at the general publics discretion.  You can be sure, some laboratory somewhere, is concocting some new marvel of science as we speak, but haven't quite worked all the kinks out yet. Just think about the EM-drive, a supposedly impossible engine Nasa built.
   I hope for humanities sake, we don't bring too many of our egotistical flaws with us into space, I hope we build a successful enterprise like that of Star Treks. Different diversities working together for a single cause. Maybe we will leave our animosity behind us, and adopt a new tenure, built upon equality, honor, and valor. Look out Buck Rogers!

[Happy Miner]

The colonization of other planets will not be in this century. There are many places on our planet that need to be explored, mastered and colonized. Today, space is not a priority.

[djangocoin]

Yes, and i think we will have a colony on the moon and on mars sooner than many of us think.. it will be small at first, but a colony still.

[CarterDreamer]

I dream of the day when humanity will set foot on new worlds and create colonies and extraterrestrial cities. I'm sure it's our destiny - to brave the void between the stars and to rule supreme over thousands of planets!

[Cenylus]

I really want to believe that humanity will be able to colonize Mars in the future, not in my lifetime of course. I think it will bring new possibilities to people.

[af_newbie]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Not until we become Type II civilization. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale#Current_status_of_human_civilization

[Cryptotango]

I think people will start colonizing other planets only if they will join as a one human race under one Earth government as the result of global war or evolution of processes of globalization. And after that as the one race they will explore space and colonize planets

[Kothar]

I agree that it will be real in future but I will definitely die before that will happened. We still have too much things on the Earth to explore and it would take long time till we will be ready for colonizing.

[BADecker]

This thread is science fiction. Why? Because the word "we" is misleading.

"We" will never go into space. "We" will never sail around the earth. "We" will never ride in a submarine. "We" never went to the moon. "We" will never go to Mars. "We" will never discover the cure for cancer. "We" will never do multitudes of the scientific things that are done anywhere. Why not? Because it is always "they" who are the ones who are doing it.

How many people who are posting in Bitcointalk ever rode the space shuttle? How many of you ever went to the International Space Station? Very few if any. It will be the same for colonizing other planets, if they are EVER colonized. None of us will ever do it. There is no "We."

The whole idea of "We" has to do with the organizers, the one-worlders, trying to get us all excited about something that doesn't have anything to do with our everyday lives, so that we support them in their endeavors. What are their endeavors? To take over the world. "They" are duping "us" into believing that colonizing planets is a goal. "They" are duping us through the use of the word "We."

You personally might see some good results of "their" duping, but there are all kinds of people all over the world who are getting negative results. Consider how many innocent people are being killed in Yemen, right now, because the one-worlders are uniting us under the word "We."

Get off it. You ain't ever going to any other planets.

[popcorn1]

This thread is science fiction. Why? Because the word "we" is misleading.

"We" will never go into space. "We" will never sail around the earth. "We" will never ride in a submarine. "We" never went to the moon. "We" will never go to Mars. "We" will never discover the cure for cancer. "We" will never do multitudes of the scientific things that are done anywhere. Why not? Because it is always "they" who are the ones who are doing it.

How many people who are posting in Bitcointalk ever rode the space shuttle? How many of you ever went to the International Space Station? Very few if any. It will be the same for colonizing other planets, if they are EVER colonized. None of us will ever do it. There is no "We."

The whole idea of "We" has to do with the organizers, the one-worlders, trying to get us all excited about something that doesn't have anything to do with our everyday lives, so that we support them in their endeavors. What are their endeavors? To take over the world. "They" are duping "us" into believing that colonizing planets is a goal. "They" are duping us through the use of the word "We."

You personally might see some good results of "their" duping, but there are all kinds of people all over the world who are getting negative results. Consider how many innocent people are being killed in Yemen, right now, because the one-worlders are uniting us under the word "We."

Get off it. You ain't ever going to any other planets.

All this we makes me want to pee so just before i go "we" will go to the stars and beyond it's "why" we have fingers and a brain to make things and fly through space ..OH i am bursting with the WE

[kylekyle2000]

I don't think that the human race will be able to conquer or subdue another planet, much more establish a colony or a civilization elsewhere other than the earth. Sorry to say but the condition outside our planet is not suitable for human life.

[Onion lover 888]

I think although interesting idea, very hard in reality. Lots of room left on earth and the planets far away plus expensive to make living areas there.

[ice_man75]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Yes humans will be able to colonize planets in the far future. In the near future Elon Musk is planing on colonizing Mars in 2025+(so i've heard). If he is able to do so this will be a great step in the expansion of humanity in the galaxy. We probably have to create stations on Moon to make future flights.

[shiki3226]

I don't believe that the human race will be able to colomize a planet in the near future. We haven't explored our own planet and there are still a lot of undiscovered things on earth. What more if we go out of our own planet. So I don't think it's feasible.

[shiki3226]

So far, the earth is the only planet discovered that is sustainable for human life. The environment and condition of the other planets outside earth are too harsh for human beings to survive like the temperature and the atmosphere.

[yoseph]

Instead of spending money and all those efforts in trying to travel to new planets and colonize it, why don’t we spend those money into making our planet better to live in and eradicate a lot of problems that we currently have like hunger and poverty.

[rickdeed1956]

Instead of spending money and all those efforts in trying to travel to new planets and colonize it, why don’t we spend those money into making our planet better to live in and eradicate a lot of problems that we currently have like hunger and poverty.

Why leave the house?  I have everything I need here including food/love/work.  Human kind has always strive to go beyond its own capabilities.  We are taught to dream big and reach for the stars.  Hampering that due to nearsightedness or budgetary reasons is what will hamper us the most in the long run.

[PlanetZebes]

I think it's possible for humans to colonize a planet one day, but I do not like the idea that much. More precisely I would hate the idea of a corporation going over and ruining it for their own profit, rather than scientist studying it and not disturbing it to preserve and not taint the history that the geography shows.

[PlanetZebes]

This thread is science fiction. Why? Because the word "we" is misleading.

"We" will never go into space. "We" will never sail around the earth. "We" will never ride in a submarine. "We" never went to the moon. "We" will never go to Mars. "We" will never discover the cure for cancer. "We" will never do multitudes of the scientific things that are done anywhere. Why not? Because it is always "they" who are the ones who are doing it.

How many people who are posting in Bitcointalk ever rode the space shuttle? How many of you ever went to the International Space Station? Very few if any. It will be the same for colonizing other planets, if they are EVER colonized. None of us will ever do it. There is no "We."

The whole idea of "We" has to do with the organizers, the one-worlders, trying to get us all excited about something that doesn't have anything to do with our everyday lives, so that we support them in their endeavors. What are their endeavors? To take over the world. "They" are duping "us" into believing that colonizing planets is a goal. "They" are duping us through the use of the word "We."

You personally might see some good results of "their" duping, but there are all kinds of people all over the world who are getting negative results. Consider how many innocent people are being killed in Yemen, right now, because the one-worlders are uniting us under the word "We."

Get off it. You ain't ever going to any other planets.

I agree with this. I always get annoyed when people use the word we, as if we're all part of the same group. We discovered a vaccine for polio. No, some guy did. We went to the moon, no, that was NASA.

[rambi91]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

I think if we're to make that move now it would only be a gesture of the unconscious to escape the mess we've created. Lets figure out what it is that has us suffering here before we vacate and literally divide social structures to just toxicate another planet of purity. 

[Sithara007]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

I think if we're to make that move now it would only be a gesture of the unconscious to escape the mess we've created. Lets figure out what it is that has us suffering here before we vacate and literally divide social structures to just toxicate another planet of purity. 

I agree with you. Humans don't have the habit of respecting the other species. They never admit that the planet earth is home to millions of other species, in addition to the humans. Now more than 90% of the world has been reserved for just one species, with the remaining 10% left for all the others. I don't want this to happen to the other planets.

[Ciscopro2000]

Yes I do believe we will colonize another planet.  Right now it looks like Mars is the most likely option and many people are working on doing that right now.  I do think it is beneficial to mankind that we explore other planets.  Who knows what will happen to out planet Earth. 

[September11Myth]

Other planets are not going to have the same atmosphere as ours. Chances are we're not going to be able to breath on these planets.

Mathematical nonsense.  

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

It will probably take centuries, but if our civilization will not crumble (which is quite likely actually) the exponential acceleration of technology at some point would make thinks possible which are now unthinkable, and at the same time it may make inevitable everything which now has just started to be thinkable.
There is a lot of future, and a lot of space. Most of the thinkable things will happen there.
As for us, we won't go anywhere, we're stuck on Bitcointalk

[BADecker]

From Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God at http://ericmetaxas.com/media/articles/science-increasingly-makes-case-god/:

...

Here’s the story: The same year Time featured the now-famous headline, the astronomer Carl Sagan announced that there were two important criteria for a planet to support life: The right kind of star, and a planet the right distance from that star. Given the roughly octillion—1 followed by 27 zeros—planets in the universe, there should have been about septillion—1 followed by 24 zeros—planets capable of supporting life.

...

Even SETI proponents acknowledged the problem. Peter Schenkelwrote in a 2006 piece for Skeptical Inquirer magazine: “In light of new findings and insights, it seems appropriate to put excessive euphoria to rest . . . . We should quietly admit that the early estimates . . . may no longer be tenable.”

As factors continued to be discovered, the number of possible planets hit zero, and kept going. In other words, the odds turned against any planet in the universe supporting life, including this one. Probability said that even we shouldn’t be here.

Today there are more than 200 known parameters necessary for a planet to support life—every single one of which must be perfectly met, or the whole thing falls apart. Without a massive planet like Jupiter nearby, whose gravity will draw away asteroids, a thousand times as many would hit Earth’s surface. The odds against life in the universe are simply astonishing.

Yet here we are, not only existing, but talking about existing. What can account for it? Can every one of those many parameters have been perfect by accident? At what point is it fair to admit that science suggests that we cannot be the result of random forces? Doesn’t assuming that an intelligence created these perfect conditions require far less faith than believing that a life-sustaining Earth just happened to beat the inconceivable odds to come into being?

...

The point is twofold:
1. There isn't any life out there, anywhere;
2. It will take way more capability than we will have for hundreds of years, to even be able to think about Terra-forming some likely candidate planet into a habitable planet like earth.

Let's start thinking about this when we should... some hundreds of years down the road. Right now we need to focus on how to keep our governments from nuking us off the earth, and destroying the limited knowledge that we already have.

[Sithara007]

Yes I do believe we will colonize another planet.  Right now it looks like Mars is the most likely option and many people are working on doing that right now.  I do think it is beneficial to mankind that we explore other planets.  Who knows what will happen to out planet Earth. 

Just because Mars is the closest planet, that doesn't mean that it is the most habitable one. There are quite a lot of issues in colonizing that planet, including lack of oxygen and water, danger from solar radiation, low gravity, and extreme variation in the temperature. So ideally, we should be looking at other options. But the issue with other habitable exoplanets is that they are located too far away.

[ezajavo]

Other planets are not going to have the same atmosphere as ours. Chances are we're not going to be able to breath on these planets.

Mathematical nonsense.  

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

OK.. I agree with you. But if that planet is 10,000 light years away, could you please enlighten me on how to travel to these planets? If you use a normal mode of transport, then it may take trillions of years.

Distance and speed is the first problem facing, but the future technology maybe have been able solve this problem, to answer that question, we must  aware the speed of light

[Kuja29]

Curently we don't even know if for ''Real'' we have reached the moon , i know all the documentaries and the stories, all the space equipment seen on tv , but how much is true from all of this !!?

[spiker777]

I think it is highly likely that humans will eventually colonise other planets, possibly starting with Mars. The colonization of Mars will probably begin around 2050 as we begin to establish a permanent presence on the planet, continuing into the 2100s as an off-world relay system is implemented. Beyond our solar system, I doubt we will establish colonies on exoplanets until well after 2100, as the distance is simply to vast for us to overcome with current technology. We would need to develop better propulsion technology, shielding, 3D printing, AI and recycling technologies before it is feasible.

If the planet needs to be terraformed, that will take hundreds to thousands of years to complete, so this is certainly a long way off.

[Noelbetty12]

Colonizing planets is possible. As of now scientist are still continuing their studies on how interstellar travel would be possible. Of course we do still need a lot of homework to do before really being able to live in other planets especially exo's. Maybe if we can recreate the sun within spaceships and then cultivate plants, maybe then we can travel far and wide in deep space.

[BADecker]

Think and plan a lot bigger in space as the SpaceX BFR will give 1000 times old...

SpaceX is rapidly changing what is possible in space. Instead of taking 40 launches over a decade to build the 400-ton space station, we could have 1000 launches in a year from ten fully reusable SpaceX BFRs that would place 150,000 tons into space. The 1000 SpaceX BFR launches would cost $10 billion versus $40 billion for the space shuttle launches of the International space station.

We will be getting 1000 times the capability in space.

The most technically challenging aspect of designing a growth-capable space habitat is growing the pressure hull. One method of growing a torus-shaped pressure hull is illustrated in the animation shown here. In this method a new folded pressure hull is constructed inside the existing pressure hull. When the new hull has been pressure tested, the existing hull is removed and the material recycled. The new pressure hull is then expanded by a controlled release of the restraining cables. The animation shows one way of folding the new pressure hull to enable proportional growth where every facet of the torus grows by the same proportion, resulting in a uniformly scaled expansion.

Read more and watch the video at https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/02/think-and-plan-a-lot-bigger-in-space-as-the-spacex-bfr-will-give-1000-times-old-space-capabilities.html.

[Sithara007]

Curently we don't even know if for ''Real'' we have reached the moon , i know all the documentaries and the stories, all the space equipment seen on tv , but how much is true from all of this !!?

Even I have doubts regarding this. The Americans and the Russians were spending billions of USD in this space race, and the Americans were quite desperate for a win. Some people think that the Americans faked a moon landing, in order to demoralize the Russians.

[stirrergreenish]

It would be possible but it would take decades for such a thought to become possible

[Vod]

Curently we don't even know if for ''Real'' we have reached the moon , i know all the documentaries and the stories, all the space equipment seen on tv , but how much is true from all of this !!?

Yes, we know for real that we reached the moon.  Anyone can fire a laser at a mirror left behind and get a signal back.

[coinoutraged]

People should focus on reducing population and wasting less resources, not increasing it and sending them to other planets.

[potterbean5]

yes why not? Looking at the pace of growing scientific techs, it can be said so that the day is not far away

[BADecker]

Colonizing planets is stupid. It isn't even in the same class as Columbus looking for the West Indies with 3 stupid little ships. It isn't even in the same class as the Mayflower coming to America for religious freedom.

We don't have the technology to take people even to Mars, yet, safely. We have only vaguest ideas of how to terraform. Bitcoin and wars will break fiat long before the technology can get there.

"Starlight, star bright, I wish I may, I wish I might..."

That's all the closer we are to the reality of colonizing planets. Dream, dream, dream. It's all a bunch of dreams... all except for the part where the wealthy are playing on your dreams to suck some donation money out of you for ridiculous, space projects.

[Sithara007]

Yes, we know for real that we reached the moon.  Anyone can fire a laser at a mirror left behind and get a signal back.

What if that mirror was left behind earlier by some unmanned space mission? I am not saying that the moon landing was faked... But all I am saying is that the NASA hasn't been able to prove with 100% certainty that humans landed in moon. And yes... 99.99% is still not good enough.

[hybridmedia]

I dont think people will be ready to accept such a massive project so easily

[BADecker]

Curently we don't even know if for ''Real'' we have reached the moon , i know all the documentaries and the stories, all the space equipment seen on tv , but how much is true from all of this !!?

Yes, we know for real that we reached the moon.  Anyone can fire a laser at a mirror left behind and get a signal back.

I agree that we went to the moon, but...

Just go up there and find out if that is a mirror. It could be a piece of natural, shiny, silica rock that somebody accidentally found while shining a laser around, and then made some claims about. You don't know it is a mirror.

[September11Myth]

Curently we don't even know if for ''Real'' we have reached the moon , i know all the documentaries and the stories, all the space equipment seen on tv , but how much is true from all of this !!?

Yes, we know for real that we reached the moon.  Anyone can fire a laser at a mirror left behind and get a signal back.

I agree that we went to the moon, but...

Just go up there and find out if that is a mirror. It could be a piece of natural, shiny, silica rock that somebody accidentally found while shining a laser around, and then made some claims about. You don't know it is a mirror.

The mirror narrative has never convinced me in the slightest, since the light needs 1.3 seconds to travel from the earth to the moon, which makes it quite difficult to target the mirror (you have to shoot where the mirror will be in 1.3 seconds), but it makes it completely impossible to receive the laser ray when it comes back from the moon, since in 1.3 seconds the observatory would move tens of Km away from where the ray would return to.

Here there's a discussion on the theme:

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4971.0

[Moana]

Mathematical nonsense. 

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

Chemical nonsense. 

You won't find an oxygen atmosphere on a planet by chance; oxygen is far too reactive to exist naturally in a free state. You know why water's the most common compound in the universe? Because hydrogen is the most common element, so whenever there's oxygen around - BOOM! Oxygen also reacts with carbon to form carbon oxides, silicon to form rock, and metals to form rust: all of which can be found in varying levels of abundance on other planets, but no free oxygen.

The only reason Earth has oxygen in its atmosphere is because algae and plants are constantly producing it as a waste product, and the only way another planet can have oxygen is if it already has life like ours, which may be inconvenient for colonists.

Good point. But the real issue is that at the moment there is not even the slightest scientific clue that a long distant space travel may ever be possible. Sleeping during long trips is just a science fiction trick, no concrete reason it will ever be possible. At the moment we can't even be sure to be able to ship human safely beyond the Van Allen belts, BTW.

[Heartbreakeren]

At the state of our earth right now where we're at the verge of completely losing our resources, I think we really do need new residence. I think scientists were right all along. We need to design a better world through technology. VR, perhaps?

[lokanot0]

Yes. That day will come if maybe all of the resources in our planet earth comes to a complete depletion, or maybe if our population hits to a certain point that some people needs to live on different planets.

[limpopo poni]

It is all about survival, no matter what we do , there will be some point in future where we will regress (technologically) or culturally(wars divisions etc). If we don do it fast we(the humans) will be doomed. Thanks God, we have Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.

[dark_water]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

It's really hard to say whether or not it will happen. There are so many unpredictable factors. I do believe for sure that we could colonize another planet. It seems that our space technology is improving constantly. I don't understand why we still haven't been back to the moon, but I think it'll all pretty feasible. Why it might not happen... I think that other problems on earth may distract us too much. Our efforts may be diverted, then space exploration could lose funding. I think the race will continue, but maybe landing on the moon again would be a good first step before going to Mars, for example.

[Spendulus]

...we can't even be sure to be able to ship human safely beyond the Van Allen belts, BTW.

That issue was resolved long ago.

[BADecker]

I agree that we went to the moon, but...

Just go up there and find out if that is a mirror. It could be a piece of natural, shiny, silica rock that somebody accidentally found while shining a laser around, and then made some claims about. You don't know it is a mirror.

The mirror narrative has never convinced me in the slightest, since the light needs 1.3 seconds to travel from the earth to the moon, which makes it quite difficult to target the mirror (you have to shoot where the mirror will be in 1.3 seconds), but it makes it completely impossible to receive the laser ray when it comes back from the moon, since in 1.3 seconds the observatory would move tens of Km away from where the ray would return to.

Here there's a discussion on the theme:

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4971.0

They only found the mirror by accident. There are all kinds of "things" that are continually "struck" by accident rather than by direct calculation. Just look at baseball.

[KingScorpio]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

well if you glorify bitcoin then it will be not possible to colonize planets, you would have to have then a different type of cryptocurrencies.

like an ico for the james webb telescope, and you woul have to respect that.

or the iter fusion research society.

[svendoto23]

Mathematical nonsense. 

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

Chemical nonsense. 

You won't find an oxygen atmosphere on a planet by chance; oxygen is far too reactive to exist naturally in a free state. You know why water's the most common compound in the universe? Because hydrogen is the most common element, so whenever there's oxygen around - BOOM! Oxygen also reacts with carbon to form carbon oxides, silicon to form rock, and metals to form rust: all of which can be found in varying levels of abundance on other planets, but no free oxygen.

The only reason Earth has oxygen in its atmosphere is because algae and plants are constantly producing it as a waste product, and the only way another planet can have oxygen is if it already has life like ours, which may be inconvenient for colonists.

Good point. But the real issue is that at the moment there is not even the slightest scientific clue that a long distant space travel may ever be possible. Sleeping during long trips is just a science fiction trick, no concrete reason it will ever be possible. At the moment we can't even be sure to be able to ship human safely beyond the Van Allen belts, BTW.

Our technology is really making a fast change and innovating our lives at a much faster rate but we don't have enough resources, pieces of knowledge, and facts about another planet we can't even find the truth about the first expedition on the moon by Neil Armstrong. There's many theories and hoax about the landing on the moon what more if we can find a way to get to Mars.

[Spendulus]

...we can't even find the truth about the first expedition on the moon by Neil Armstrong. There's many theories and hoax about the landing on the moon what more if we can find a way to get to Mars.

You have got to be kidding.

What part of "Twelve US astronauts landed on the moon" do you not understand?

[Hjalmond]

It is still too early to talk about the colonization of other planets. Now, even on the moon, it is impossible to build an inhabited base. It will cost too much, but there will be no profit.

[LudaIvanova7]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

The purpose of going on mars for these astronauts is to make it ready for colonization. Plan is organised and I think that it is pretty much  possible.

[SkyFlakes]

I think, in some time in the future, we might come to  a situation that a civilization of human race would be created in other planets. This is because in this present time, we already are doing actions in putting people in Mars and I think that's a big step towards making civilization outside earth. Also, it would be possible that civilization of humans would conquer those exo planet but it takes a lot time and research for it to happen as many things should be discovered and invented about this.

[Spendulus]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

The purpose of going on mars for these astronauts is to make it ready for colonization. Plan is organised and I think that it is pretty much  possible.

I don't think that is so.

There are various reasons this idea exists.

One is to make money from government contracts for Elon Musk.

Another is political status for countries that pay to play.

In a practical sense, "making it ready for colonization" would require hundreds of rockets with payloads of machinery and robots. Sending humans is NOT an essential part of making it ready for colonization.

[ClassyDancer]

Isn’t this the goal of Elon Musk’s SpaceX project? To colonize Mars? Honestly, I’m not a fan of the idea. I have a feeling history will repeat itself and humans would deplete the planet’s resources again. Other people are saying that the colonization of planets is not the most feasible solution to survival. Other’s are actually suggesting using technology to achieve digital immortality. Have you heard about it? Check out this discussion:
https://www.reddit.com/r/transhumanism/comments/91g7yd/should_we_focus_on_space_colonization_or_digital/

[Sandra_Skelley]

We are developing and it is a possibility. People say that Earth is too small for us all. I do not share that point of view. To me, Earth is just enough for the big mankind family. Moreover, as many have mentioned, we do not have capable spaceships. We cannot travel too far. Even if we manage to go far, we cannot go fast. It means we cannot come back to share success stories. Our future is in the cosmos. It is sure. But first, we must learn how to improve ourselves on Earth. We must not go out there and keep destroying as we are doing here.

[darklus123]

Other planets are not going to have the same atmosphere as ours. Chances are we're not going to be able to breath on these planets.

Mathematical nonsense. 

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

If i am not mistaken astronomy reached that goal already to find some planets that looks similar to earth that can support living.

So indeed there are really planets which can support human lives. The only problem for now is the tool for transfering humans from the other planets since those planets are a million light years away from the earth.

[Spendulus]

Other planets are not going to have the same atmosphere as ours. Chances are we're not going to be able to breath on these planets.

Mathematical nonsense. 

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

If i am not mistaken astronomy reached that goal already to find some planets that looks similar to earth that can support living.

So indeed there are really planets which can support human lives. The only problem for now is the tool for transfering humans from the other planets since those planets are a million light years away from the earth.

 Hmmm....

The detection of planets in "habitable zones" is a far cry from habitable planets. But maybe 1/1000 of these would in fact be suitable.

So then the only problem is that it would take five million years to get there.

So you see, it is not possible for humans to find other habitable worlds. But it is possible for the evolutionary processes of life to be spread.

[BADecker]

Other planets are not going to have the same atmosphere as ours. Chances are we're not going to be able to breath on these planets.

Mathematical nonsense. 

There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Each star has multiple planets.

Eventually, we will find some that support our life.

If i am not mistaken astronomy reached that goal already to find some planets that looks similar to earth that can support living.

So indeed there are really planets which can support human lives. The only problem for now is the tool for transfering humans from the other planets since those planets are a million light years away from the earth.

If you study it, you will find that the requirements for life are so great that we will have to take everything along with us just to stay alive. The odds against life even happening here are so great that we don't understand how life could have happened. Colonizing other planets is way beyond anything we have a chance of achieving with any technology we have available now.

[darklus123]

 Hmmm....

The detection of planets in "habitable zones" is a far cry from habitable planets. But maybe 1/1000 of these would in fact be suitable.

So then the only problem is that it would take five million years to get there.

So you see, it is not possible for humans to find other habitable worlds. But it is possible for the evolutionary processes of life to be spread.

It is still possible since the astronauts already found a planet like earth. If they were able to make a device that can travel that fast  without carrying human beings then later on they will surely discover a new device that can travel as fast as the current device. Which can also load up humans.

If you study it, you will find that the requirements for life are so great that we will have to take everything along with us just to stay alive. The odds against life even happening here are so great that we don't understand how life could have happened. Colonizing other planets is way beyond anything we have a chance of achieving with any technology we have available now.

That is a great way of thinking, this is the only planet where the creator have given us and maybe that is really the reality that it is almost impossible to colonize other country

[Spendulus]

 Hmmm....

The detection of planets in "habitable zones" is a far cry from habitable planets. But maybe 1/1000 of these would in fact be suitable.

So then the only problem is that it would take five million years to get there.

So you see, it is not possible for humans to find other habitable worlds. But it is possible for the evolutionary processes of life to be spread.

It is still possible since the astronauts already found a planet like earth. If they were able to make a device that can travel that fast  without carrying human beings then later on they will surely discover a new device that can travel as fast as the current device. Which can also load up humans.

?

No, astronauts have not "already found a planet like earth."

no, nobody has made a device that travels that fast without carrying humans.

[BADecker]

 Hmmm....

The detection of planets in "habitable zones" is a far cry from habitable planets. But maybe 1/1000 of these would in fact be suitable.

So then the only problem is that it would take five million years to get there.

So you see, it is not possible for humans to find other habitable worlds. But it is possible for the evolutionary processes of life to be spread.

It is still possible since the astronauts already found a planet like earth. If they were able to make a device that can travel that fast  without carrying human beings then later on they will surely discover a new device that can travel as fast as the current device. Which can also load up humans.

?

No, astronauts have not "already found a planet like earth."

no, nobody has made a device that travels that fast without carrying humans.

In addition, when you do a detailed study on the requirements necessary for a planet to support life, you find that there are enough requirements, that the odds of finding another like Earth are very slim. Most studies on how many Earth-like planets might be out there in other galaxies, don't take into account all the factors found on Earth, that would be necessary for life. This means that we would have to take life-support along with us if we went. Expensive beyond anything the greedy wealthy would ever give up.

[Spendulus]

...This means that we would have to take life-support along with us if we went. Expensive beyond anything the greedy wealthy would ever give up.

It's not a matter of taking life support for humans. It's a matter of taking life itself as we know it.

Most ideas on this involve dna-sequence libraries and machines to produce plants and animals from those, instead of actually hauling all the living things...

This is really the practical means of doing Mars and the Moon, not hauling all the stuff from Earth. So that puts those two projects into the 50-500 years category, not 10-20 years. So what.

Expensive beyond anything the greedy wealthy would ever give up.

More likely expensive beyond anything the greedy poor of socialist nations would want. They wouldn't want their monthly allotments of free stuff reduced to fund space missions.

[BADecker]

...This means that we would have to take life-support along with us if we went. Expensive beyond anything the greedy wealthy would ever give up.

It's not a matter of taking life support for humans. It's a matter of taking life itself as we know it.

Most ideas on this involve dna-sequence libraries and machines to produce plants and animals from those, instead of actually hauling all the living things...

This is really the practical means of doing Mars and the Moon, not hauling all the stuff from Earth. So that puts those two projects into the 50-500 years category, not 10-20 years. So what.

Expensive beyond anything the greedy wealthy would ever give up.

More likely expensive beyond anything the greedy poor of socialist nations would want. They wouldn't want their monthly allotments of free stuff reduced to fund space missions.

I agree. Thank you.   

[LEMbo]

We will colonise moon by 2035 with astronauts, then go to mars and build a base there. By 2100 there should be a colony both on mars and the moon. Too bad we wont be around to see it 

[TallDragonfly]

Humans are really funny beings. We colonize each other and create so much evil. In the process, we keep plundering our lovely home, the Earth. At the same time, we keep pursuing other planets. We start off by saying it's all for the sake of knowledge. Then gradually we start thinking even about colonizing those planets. How about taking care of our own planet and getting the best of it first? Why are we so desperate about destroying everything we can reach for?

[BADecker]

We colonize each other and create so much evil. In the process, we keep plundering our lovely home, the Earth. At the same time, we keep pursuing other planets.

Now you are talking about taxation... government theft from the rest of us.

[Balthazar]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Of course it will, once it will reach a sufficient level of development.
Due to nature of human species, expansion is the only way to evolve.

[BADecker]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Of course it will, once it will reach a sufficient level of development.
Due to nature of human species, expansion is the only way to evolve.

The more we develop, the more wars we get. Wars destroy our chances to work together so that we can do some really great things like going to other planets.

[Spendulus]

We will colonise moon by 2035 with astronauts, then go to mars and build a base there. By 2100 there should be a colony both on mars and the moon. Too bad we wont be around to see it 

That timeframe is totally believable.

[Balthazar]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Of course it will, once it will reach a sufficient level of development.
Due to nature of human species, expansion is the only way to evolve.

The more we develop, the more wars we get. Wars destroy our chances to work together so that we can do some really great things like going to other planets.

Simplest way to stop wars on Earth is to create external enemy. That can be achieved by creating extraterrastrial colony, which then be allowed to proclaim its sovereignty.

[BADecker]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Of course it will, once it will reach a sufficient level of development.
Due to nature of human species, expansion is the only way to evolve.

The more we develop, the more wars we get. Wars destroy our chances to work together so that we can do some really great things like going to other planets.

Simplest way to stop wars on Earth is to create external enemy. That can be achieved by creating extraterrastrial colony, which then be allowed to proclaim its sovereignty.

Sounds like the chicken and egg dilemma. A catch 22. Can't afford to colonize without stopping the wars. Can't stop the wars without an outside colony to threaten.

Have you been reading "Raiders from the Rings," by Alan E. Nourse?

[Balthazar]

Do you think humanity will ever create colonies on the other planets (not just couple of trained astronauts but a civilian population in a city or something similar) and depending on your opinion why not / where and when do you think they're likely to be created first?... also will the frontier of colonising be in our own solar system on Mars for example or on some exoplanet

Of course it will, once it will reach a sufficient level of development.
Due to nature of human species, expansion is the only way to evolve.

The more we develop, the more wars we get. Wars destroy our chances to work together so that we can do some really great things like going to other planets.

Simplest way to stop wars on Earth is to create external enemy. That can be achieved by creating extraterrastrial colony, which then be allowed to proclaim its sovereignty.

Sounds like the chicken and egg dilemma. A catch 22. Can't afford to colonize without stopping the wars. Can't stop the wars without an outside colony to threaten.

There is no dilemma as long as we do not speak about long term peace on Earth. Short-time absence of wars can be sufficient and this may be introduced through the dictatorship. As soon as there will be a interim global authority with dictatorship privileges, there will be a possibility to establish some extraterrastrial colonies. These colonies will provide the interim global authority with necessary resources, such as helium-3 supplies or whatever, but not for long. Once reached a certain level of integrity, colonies will proclaim themselves independent and this will eventually lead to either the fall of global authority or its transition into another form of state. But the local peace may be preserved and stabilized as the result.

[Balthazar]

Have you been reading "Raiders from the Rings," by Alan E. Nourse?

Honestly, I'm not really a fan of his work. I took a brief look only.
Maybe I'll read it eventually.

[darklus123]

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No, astronauts have not "already found a planet like earth."

no, nobody has made a device that travels that fast without carrying humans.

Yup there is a planet , sorry for misunderstanding my statement what I actually mean is that they actually found a planet that can support human lives.
As I have said on the device, they already have been created a device that discovered the planet that I was saying. If they were able to do so then later on they can surely create a device that can travel that fast that also carries humans

[Spendulus]

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No, astronauts have not "already found a planet like earth."

no, nobody has made a device that travels that fast without carrying humans.

Yup there is a planet , sorry for misunderstanding my statement what I actually mean is that they actually found a planet that can support human lives.
As I have said on the device, they already have been created a device that discovered the planet that I was saying. If they were able to do so then later on they can surely create a device that can travel that fast that also carries humans

No they have not. I also saw news reports that misrepresented the actual scientific findings.

Huge progress has been made in determining planets that lie in the "habitable zone" of other star systems, and even inferring a bit about their overall chemical composition. That's not nearly enough to guess at whether they can support human life.

But here's the latest research, which is really mind boggling. They've got frikking thousands of candidate planets....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_potentially_habitable_exoplanets

[darklus123]

No they have not. I also saw news reports that misrepresented the actual scientific findings.

Huge progress has been made in determining planets that lie in the "habitable zone" of other star systems, and even inferring a bit about their overall chemical composition. That's not nearly enough to guess at whether they can support human life.

But here's the latest research, which is really mind boggling. They've got frikking thousands of candidate planets....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_potentially_habitable_exoplanets

I was actually talking about that potentials. If you do talk about potentials then that does mean as well right that those planets were listed really are capable of supporting human lives and of course the only thing we could actually do that is by progressing the research within the potential planets. I have seen another article about a new discovered planet that happens to have a little bit of similarity within the earths surface.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/15/world/new-earth-size-exoplanet-life-potential/index.html

[Spendulus]

No they have not. I also saw news reports that misrepresented the actual scientific findings.

Huge progress has been made in determining planets that lie in the "habitable zone" of other star systems, and even inferring a bit about their overall chemical composition. That's not nearly enough to guess at whether they can support human life.

But here's the latest research, which is really mind boggling. They've got frikking thousands of candidate planets....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_potentially_habitable_exoplanets

I was actually talking about that potentials. If you do talk about potentials then that does mean as well right that those planets were listed really are capable of supporting human lives and of course the only thing we could actually do that is by progressing the research within the potential planets. I have seen another article about a new discovered planet that happens to have a little bit of similarity within the earths surface.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/15/world/new-earth-size-exoplanet-life-potential/index.html

Again, the headline and the writing mis interprets the actual scientific findings.

It's a real stretch to think that anything orbiting a red dwarf could support life as we know it. But yeah, if you studied 1000 possibilities like this one, out of that 1000 there might be 1-10 that were "real possibilities."

[Jarvis Edge]

Technologically we are far away from being capable of colonizing another planet. Yes, we may visit, we may even establish a small settlement there, but making it habitable or reaching one in the "Goldilocks" zone (habitable zone, not too far, not too close to a star) is not possible in the foreseeable future.

[Spendulus]

Technologically we are far away from being capable of colonizing another planet. Yes, we may visit, we may even establish a small settlement there, but making it habitable or reaching one in the "Goldilocks" zone (habitable zone, not too far, not too close to a star) is not possible in the foreseeable future.

If one could glimpse into the future, it would be interesting what man accomplishes in space in the next thousand years.

[exemplaar]

Hint: they're the underside of frying pans

Bonus video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xAiYSwhHxw

[BADecker]

Technologically we are far away from being capable of colonizing another planet. Yes, we may visit, we may even establish a small settlement there, but making it habitable or reaching one in the "Goldilocks" zone (habitable zone, not too far, not too close to a star) is not possible in the foreseeable future.

If one could glimpse into the future, it would be interesting what man accomplishes in space in the next thousand years.

Mankind is warlike. What I mean is, the peaceful people who would never be warlike, are also sheeple, ready to listen to the doctrines of those who are forceful. The forceful people make the sheeple warlike, since force means war, and the sheeple are not even forward enough to adequately question the forceful people.

The only reason why people haven destroyed themselves already is, the Earth has been big enough, and easy enough to migrate across, so that some of the more clever sheeple got away from war.

Colonizing planets is so extremely difficult - as you have suggested here and there - that nobody will get away from war. We will either:
1. kill each other off to the point that we descend into the dark ages;
2. get saved and changed by Jesus.

There aren't enough odds that we will ever get to the point of being able to afford and manufacture what it takes to colonize other worlds. But, dreaming provides pleasure at times.

[nngella]

Technologically we are far away from being capable of colonizing another planet. Yes, we may visit, we may even establish a small settlement there, but making it habitable or reaching one in the "Goldilocks" zone (habitable zone, not too far, not too close to a star) is not possible in the foreseeable future.

If one could glimpse into the future, it would be interesting what man accomplishes in space in the next thousand years.

I am a bit doubtful in colonizing other planets in the near future.  We do not have the technology yet to travel from earth to other planes (e.g. spacecrafts).  We can only send some satellites to explore but not human beings.

[Spendulus]

Technologically we are far away from being capable of colonizing another planet. Yes, we may visit, we may even establish a small settlement there, but making it habitable or reaching one in the "Goldilocks" zone (habitable zone, not too far, not too close to a star) is not possible in the foreseeable future.

If one could glimpse into the future, it would be interesting what man accomplishes in space in the next thousand years.

I am a bit doubtful in colonizing other planets in the near future.  We do not have the technology yet to travel from earth to other planes (e.g. spacecrafts).  We can only send some satellites to explore but not human beings.

This is not bad but good.

These robot machines go places we cannot.

Some take a decade to reach their destination. Spacecraft which might be built in the future to go to other stars would take centuries, or thousands of years to reach their destination, and return their findings by light or radio,

What we accomplish in space certainly can be by way of our robots and remote sensors.

[BADecker]

Technologically we are far away from being capable of colonizing another planet. Yes, we may visit, we may even establish a small settlement there, but making it habitable or reaching one in the "Goldilocks" zone (habitable zone, not too far, not too close to a star) is not possible in the foreseeable future.

If one could glimpse into the future, it would be interesting what man accomplishes in space in the next thousand years.

I am a bit doubtful in colonizing other planets in the near future.  We do not have the technology yet to travel from earth to other planes (e.g. spacecrafts).  We can only send some satellites to explore but not human beings.

This is not bad but good.

These robot machines go places we cannot.

Some take a decade to reach their destination. Spacecraft which might be built in the future to go to other stars would take centuries, or thousands of years to reach their destination, and return their findings by light or radio,

What we accomplish in space certainly can be by way of our robots and remote sensors.

Why waste our time on robots? Our warp drives will pass them up; we'll be waving at them as we go by. Of course, our warp drives will have been perfected 200 or 300 years after the robots are launched. But the robots will be outdated before they have even been launched.

What's more likely, the robots will return, sometime, to find the earth a nuked out cinder.

[goldSkylark]

Do you really think colonizing planets will be feasible? And you think we deserve another planet after how we’ve treated Earth? I fear that it’s just a band-aid solution and we’ll just go back to our old ways of depleting resources and overpopulating the planet. Perhaps other technologies can be explored. Like mixed reality or virtual worlds. It was thoroughly discussed in Virternity, and to be honest, it seems like the most viable solution. Have you heard of it?

[robbietobby]

Life can not exist on other planets We have new technology popping up every day and if we have not found life by now then there is none. Also in the bible it states god created the heavens and the earth sure there are other planets, but it never said anywhere in the bible he put life on other planets. Some people may say non believers are being unreasonable but there is no proof still to this day.

[Beli99]

Life can not exist on other planets We have new technology popping up every day and if we have not found life by now then there is none. Also in the bible it states god created the heavens and the earth sure there are other planets, but it never said anywhere in the bible he put life on other planets. Some people may say non believers are being unreasonable but there is no proof still to this day.

I think their is a lot of proof that life on earth is not the only life in universe and it would be egoistic and selfish that we think we are alone in universe im not religious fundamentlist to belive in every word of holy bible that can only limited your free thinking and what about ufos that lot of people had see including my self ,..i belive that somewhere their is technology for traveling to space maybe we have that technology but they hide it from us or we have a lot of visitors from out of space and they are probably among us

[FortFC]

How close your mind must be if you belive we are the only one living group in the universe. From Ancient Greece and up to modern scientists both brought us big amount of facts & proves that another live exists in our and different galaxies

[BADecker]

Life can not exist on other planets We have new technology popping up every day and if we have not found life by now then there is none. Also in the bible it states god created the heavens and the earth sure there are other planets, but it never said anywhere in the bible he put life on other planets. Some people may say non believers are being unreasonable but there is no proof still to this day.

I think their is a lot of proof that life on earth is not the only life in universe and it would be egoistic and selfish that we think we are alone in universe im not religious fundamentlist to belive in every word of holy bible that can only limited your free thinking and what about ufos that lot of people had see including my self ,..i belive that somewhere their is technology for traveling to space maybe we have that technology but they hide it from us or we have a lot of visitors from out of space and they are probably among us

Since there is only speculation that things we have found are evidence of extraterrestrial life, we don't know that ET really exists. We will only know that ET exists when we communicate with them, or when we actual visit with them... or they with us. Up until then, ET is only speculation.

[Beli99]

Life can not exist on other planets We have new technology popping up every day and if we have not found life by now then there is none. Also in the bible it states god created the heavens and the earth sure there are other planets, but it never said anywhere in the bible he put life on other planets. Some people may say non believers are being unreasonable but there is no proof still to this day.

I think their is a lot of proof that life on earth is not the only life in universe and it would be egoistic and selfish that we think we are alone in universe im not religious fundamentlist to belive in every word of holy bible that can only limited your free thinking and what about ufos that lot of people had see including my self ,..i belive that somewhere their is technology for traveling to space maybe we have that technology but they hide it from us or we have a lot of visitors from out of space and they are probably among us

Since there is only speculation that things we have found are evidence of extraterrestrial life, we don't know that ET really exists. We will only know that ET exists when we communicate with them, or when we actual visit with them... or they with us. Up until then, ET is only speculation.

For me its not speculation i saw this strange object in sky first was thinking im crazy but i wasnt the only one my friend saw same thing so we didint hallucinating, we see this ufo leaving our earth orbit with crazy speed that humans dont know it exsist

[BADecker]

Life can not exist on other planets We have new technology popping up every day and if we have not found life by now then there is none. Also in the bible it states god created the heavens and the earth sure there are other planets, but it never said anywhere in the bible he put life on other planets. Some people may say non believers are being unreasonable but there is no proof still to this day.

I think their is a lot of proof that life on earth is not the only life in universe and it would be egoistic and selfish that we think we are alone in universe im not religious fundamentlist to belive in every word of holy bible that can only limited your free thinking and what about ufos that lot of people had see including my self ,..i belive that somewhere their is technology for traveling to space maybe we have that technology but they hide it from us or we have a lot of visitors from out of space and they are probably among us

Since there is only speculation that things we have found are evidence of extraterrestrial life, we don't know that ET really exists. We will only know that ET exists when we communicate with them, or when we actual visit with them... or they with us. Up until then, ET is only speculation.

For me its not speculation i saw this strange object in sky first was thinking im crazy but i wasnt the only one my friend saw same thing so we didint hallucinating, we see this ufo leaving our earth orbit with crazy speed that humans dont know it exsist

Did you go up there and check it out to see if it was ET? If you didn't, how do you know that it wasn't a couple of university pranksters using lasers to make a holographic image up there?

[Spendulus]

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For me its not speculation i saw this strange object in sky first was thinking im crazy but i wasnt the only one my friend saw same thing so we didint hallucinating, we see this ufo leaving our earth orbit with crazy speed that humans dont know it exsist

Well, if you were standing on the surface, you didn't see anything "leaving earth orbit..."

[Beli99]

I know what i saw ,sure people wont belive but ill tell you one thing we watch this strange object for about half an hour it wasnt some kind of holographic image or laser 100% and i personaly know some people that saw it at heights of five story building and ,not only that their is a lot of books with witnesses of ufo and extraterrestrial life ... i think only those funny flat earthers can belive we are alone in space or as they say their is no space lol

[BADecker]

I know what i saw ,sure people wont belive but ill tell you one thing we watch this strange object for about half an hour it wasnt some kind of holographic image or laser 100% and i personaly know some people that saw it at heights of five story building and ,not only that their is a lot of books with witnesses of ufo and extraterrestrial life ... i think only those funny flat earthers can belive we are alone in space or as they say their is no space lol

What?! You know what you saw? But you called it a UFO, above? The term "UFO" is an acronym for "Unidentified Flying Object." But you know what it was, right, 'cause you know what you saw.

That's what people have been saying for ages. They saw a UFO, an Unidentified Flying Object. So you identified the flying object as an unidentified flying object. How curious!

[BLAST2MARS]

No one is living on those planet so there is no need for colonizing. The real problem is searching a habitable planet and people will start flocking it and that scenario is destined to happen.

[Kick]

I don't know why most people/media want to colonize planets. If we colonize planets most of the time it will need terra forming and this is very costly. The gravity is not the same, in most cases the magnetic force is not present for protecting us from harmful radiation and the air composition and climate is very different.

My plan is to  create space habitats. Like O'Neill cylinder or even better McKendree cylinder. Living in cylinders is more comfortable than living in earth. The surface of this cylinders can be as big continents or even as big as Earth! In cylinder we can control the force of the artificial gravity we are comfortable with. We can control the day and night time like on earth. And we can also control the weather/climate. It is very hard do that on earth or mars. Imagine you are living when there is no earthquake, tidal wave, volcano eruption, typhoons. We can move this cylinders if there is a big asteroid moving its way.

[BADecker]

Remember in the Revelation in the Bible, how the tail of the dragon swept a third of the stars out of the sky? Remember the great battle where Michael the archangel fought the dragon, and the dragon lost his place in Heaven?

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden was a tree that the dragon (Satan/the devil) planted there. It was more than a tree for fruit. It contained DNA programming manipulations made by Satan, the dragon.

I mean, that Revelation story happened in the distant past. The Bible says that the devil was sinful from the beginning. And when did Satan take the form of the serpent? The Garden of Eden, in the Beginning. So, Satan had lost his place in Heaven way back then. And his sly talk had coaxed a third of the other angels out of the heavens.

When Adam and Eve ate of the fruit - which God had warned them to not eat - their DNA changed. Into them was genetically planted the desire for the stars... a desire Satan planted in them through the fruit of his tree in the Garden.

We weren't made for the stars. Notice how we have to take some of the earth along with us in spaceships and spacesuits? We were made for the Earth.

Let's fix what we are doing here, right on our own planet. Maybe after we get rid of poverty, help our neighbors to have success, and tell everybody about Jesus-salvation from death... maybe then we can think about the stars a little.

[Beli99]

I know what i saw ,sure people wont belive but ill tell you one thing we watch this strange object for about half an hour it wasnt some kind of holographic image or laser 100% and i personaly know some people that saw it at heights of five story building and ,not only that their is a lot of books with witnesses of ufo and extraterrestrial life ... i think only those funny flat earthers can belive we are alone in space or as they say their is no space lol

What?! You know what you saw? But you called it a UFO, above? The term "UFO" is an acronym for "Unidentified Flying Object." But you know what it was, right, 'cause you know what you saw.

That's what people have been saying for ages. They saw a UFO, an Unidentified Flying Object. So you identified the flying object as an unidentified flying object. How curious!

Maybe it looks funny how i said it but the point is that somewhere exsist objects that can fly to space with super speeds unknown to humans, maybe its visitors from space or maybe its our own creation but they keep it secret from public i really dont know but i belive that space is huge and we are definetly not the only life form in space

[BADecker]

I know what i saw ,sure people wont belive but ill tell you one thing we watch this strange object for about half an hour it wasnt some kind of holographic image or laser 100% and i personaly know some people that saw it at heights of five story building and ,not only that their is a lot of books with witnesses of ufo and extraterrestrial life ... i think only those funny flat earthers can belive we are alone in space or as they say their is no space lol

What?! You know what you saw? But you called it a UFO, above? The term "UFO" is an acronym for "Unidentified Flying Object." But you know what it was, right, 'cause you know what you saw.

That's what people have been saying for ages. They saw a UFO, an Unidentified Flying Object. So you identified the flying object as an unidentified flying object. How curious!

Maybe it looks funny how i said it but the point is that somewhere exsist objects that can fly to space with super speeds unknown to humans, maybe its visitors from space or maybe its our own creation but they keep it secret from public i really dont know but i belive that space is huge and we are definetly not the only life form in space

This is all good stuff to believe. But do we know it? Perhaps there are some people in NASA who know it. Perhaps you know it for a fact but are not permitted to say it as knowledge to the general public. So, you have to say like you believe it rather than know it.

[Ladysmith]

I don't think space colonization is going to happen. I do think we will visit mars though, and use it in a different way.

The whole point of space colonization is to diversify our resources and not be reliant on one planet, but what if we didn't actually require resources? By the time space colonization is feasible there will likely be methods for mind uploading, which would make it possible to live in resource-less virtual worlds. Pretty sure this is a better option. We could use Mars and other planets to store backup hardware containing our consciousnesses in the case of the end of earth.

[Spendulus]

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The whole point of space colonization is to diversify our resources and not be reliant on one planet...

sez who?

maybe we just need to hotrod big fast spaceships around.

[BADecker]

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The whole point of space colonization is to diversify our resources and not be reliant on one planet...

sez who?

maybe we just need to hotrod big fast spaceships around.

And it would work, too, if we used these rockets - https://newatlas.com/orion-project-atom-bomb-spaceship/49454/.