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August 31, 2017, 11:59:10 PM
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What is everyone's thoughts on SHIFT vs Substratum in terms of decentralized web and hosting?

SHIFT:
https://www.shiftnrg.org/

Substratum:
https://substratum.net/technology/

I know SHIFT has been in the game for a few years, kinda flying under the radar while they work hard on development, but I recently came across the substratum ICO and it looks like they are trying to accomplish the same thing as SHIFT. However, it doesnt look like Substratum offers anything that SHIFT is already not doing...

I believe Substratum is an eth based token, and SHIFT is it's own blockchain, that originated as a fork from Lisk (LSK) code.

My vote goes to SHIFT, a project that has been around long before all this ICO hype - they are soon redesigning their website/whitelist and deploying a new marketing campaign. Plus they have a small marketcap and a lot of room to grow, with only 11 million tokens.

What are your thoughts?

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September 01, 2017, 12:09:09 AM
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Shift is the coin I most often see in this forum when people ask potential next 100x.

I am very excited for Shift's first app - Phantom web hosting - to go live soon!

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September 01, 2017, 12:34:46 AM
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What is everyone's thoughts on SHIFT vs Substratum in terms of decentralized web and hosting?

SHIFT:
https://www.shiftnrg.org/

Substratum:
https://substratum.net/technology/

I know SHIFT has been in the game for a few years, kinda flying under the radar while they work hard on development, but I recently came across the substratum ICO and it looks like they are trying to accomplish the same thing as SHIFT. However, it doesnt look like Substratum offers anything that SHIFT is already not doing...

I believe Substratum is an eth based token, and SHIFT is it's own blockchain, that originated as a fork from Lisk (LSK) code.

My vote goes to SHIFT, a project that has been around long before all this ICO hype - they are soon redesigning their website/whitelist and deploying a new marketing campaign. Plus they have a small marketcap and a lot of room to grow, with only 11 million tokens.

What are your thoughts?

well why does substrtum uses the oictures from shift on the whitepaper?

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September 01, 2017, 12:40:52 AM
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Also, the substratom logo icon looks awfully similar to SHIFT's old logo... almost identical.

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September 01, 2017, 02:32:57 PM
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Shift is nearly ready and thats good
i also heard about maidsafe but i will stick to the ipfs thing.
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September 01, 2017, 03:47:17 PM
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Shift takes my vote too. Longer development, product ready to go

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September 01, 2017, 06:12:58 PM
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I almost bought SHIFT till I read this is it true? https://i.gyazo.com/ba085417428fe786abd68ea5a5893578.png

Please tell me something. So that i'll more confident to buy SHIFT.

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September 01, 2017, 11:36:04 PM
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I almost bought SHIFT till I read this is it true? https://i.gyazo.com/ba085417428fe786abd68ea5a5893578.png

Please tell me something. So that i'll more confident to buy SHIFT.

The subdomain thing isnt true
http://alwaysonline.io/#intro

this site is hosted on phantom.
much talk nothing behind it. yes the idea of ipfs doesnt come from shift itself
but that doesnt mean that they didnt put any work to program it in combination with a dApp
and a blockchain. he throws in his comment a programming language, a databank system and a microsoft app while he is comparing with shifts programming languages only. his comparisations are out of relatives and they didnt even bring anything to the table yet.
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September 14, 2017, 02:45:02 PM
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I almost bought SHIFT till I read this is it true? https://i.gyazo.com/ba085417428fe786abd68ea5a5893578.png

Please tell me something. So that i'll more confident to buy SHIFT.

The subdomain thing isnt true
http://alwaysonline.io/#intro

this site is hosted on phantom.
much talk nothing behind it. yes the idea of ipfs doesnt come from shift itself
but that doesnt mean that they didnt put any work to program it in combination with a dApp
and a blockchain. he throws in his comment a programming language, a databank system and a microsoft app while he is comparing with shifts programming languages only. his comparisations are out of relatives and they didnt even bring anything to the table yet.

Still up?
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Not sure about Substratum but i saw it on reddit as it was accused scam?


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September 18, 2017, 04:51:12 PM
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Not sure about Substratum but i saw it on reddit as it was accused scam?
I'll look at substratum but shift is better and has a working product.
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September 19, 2017, 08:35:54 AM
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I'm a bit irritated. The SHIFT website says "Q3 - new roadmap" and the now visible roadmap only shows vague steps until Q3. Q3 is now nearly over yet no update. In my unterstanding, a rough roadmap shoul exist in the first place, so why isn't it updated maybe every 6 months or so? That's really bad communication.

Substratum has a slack group and youtube channel btw:
- Slack: https://substratumcoin.slack.com/
- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxUJoTH0XLERKl55zGnFI6g

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November 27, 2017, 11:07:01 AM
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I'm a bit irritated. The SHIFT website says "Q3 - new roadmap" and the now visible roadmap only shows vague steps until Q3. Q3 is now nearly over yet no update. In my unterstanding, a rough roadmap shoul exist in the first place, so why isn't it updated maybe every 6 months or so? That's really bad communication.

Substratum has a slack group and youtube channel btw:
- Slack: https://substratumcoin.slack.com/
- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxUJoTH0XLERKl55zGnFI6g
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Hi. Shift has been around longer and they will release their phantom testnet soon, so they say. I never looked into substratum but shift delibered so far. Also i like DPOS

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November 27, 2017, 11:32:39 AM
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SHIFT will definately win. It has the best infrastructure. Shift is the new web. Decentralized and versatile.
Combining a blazing fast, dApp-ready, delegated Proof of Stake blockchain with the interplanetary file system - for a decentralized, resilient and highly extensible web 3.0 platform. Building the new world wide web. Just better. From ICANN to hosting providers, from advertisers to social media, the Internet is getting privatized and centralized more and more. On the new web there is no censorship or discrimination due to its decentralized nature.
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SHIFT will definately win. It has the best infrastructure. Shift is the new web. Decentralized and versatile.
Combining a blazing fast, dApp-ready, delegated Proof of Stake blockchain with the interplanetary file system - for a decentralized, resilient and highly extensible web 3.0 platform. Building the new world wide web. Just better. From ICANN to hosting providers, from advertisers to social media, the Internet is getting privatized and centralized more and more. On the new web there is no censorship or discrimination due to its decentralized nature.
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November 28, 2017, 10:40:57 AM
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Not sure about Substratum but i saw it on reddit as it was accused scam?
Substratum is definately not a scam. They have a great team, great roadmap, they keep to their roadmap and are delivering!
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November 28, 2017, 11:53:14 AM
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I not long ago watched over the SUBSTRATUM, but in terms of price, even now he is very confident, even against BITCOIN.
And the shift have been watching for over a year. I know that this project is long. Connect with high hopes. Like the team. Technology. I think this coin will make a break in 2018 and will cost more than $ 10

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November 28, 2017, 01:16:56 PM
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I not long ago watched over the SUBSTRATUM, but in terms of price, even now he is very confident, even against BITCOIN.
And the shift have been watching for over a year. I know that this project is long. Connect with high hopes. Like the team. Technology. I think this coin will make a break in 2018 and will cost more than $ 10
Yes. Definitely SHIFT will win.
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November 28, 2017, 03:02:41 PM
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Shift already has a dApp ‘Phantom’ and their newer website will run on it. But Substratum seems to be rallying high these days due to their marketing only. As an investor, I think Shift has a lot of room to grow now when their new website is launched and they start marketing.

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