Nvidia 1060 vs 1070 vs 1080 vs 1080Ti

[klintistwood]

My experience is the following:

For ETH, the GTX 1060 3GB seems to be the best. I get 24MH/S for 75-80W (for around 200$) while with a 1070 I get 32MH/S for 90W (for around 400$).
Now if you want to mine ZEC for example, the result will be different, a 1080TI would probably be a better option.

You seems foolish buddy. GTX 1070 8GB card can be produce the 32 MH so you will be able to more income that card alone but if can get the electricity more cheaper in the sense we can make more money with that bro.
Performance wise alone 1080 8GB card is better than 1070. You can check in any site you will find the information states 1070i is the best card to mine.

I'm not foolish, it's pure math. You'll have a faster ROI with GTX 1060, on the long run you'll earn more with the GTX 1070. Today 1 GTX 1060 can generate 1.65$/day on ETH while a GTX 1070 will deliver 2.2$ (in the current conditions). At that rate you need 121 days to break even on GTX 1060 while it would take 181 for the GTX 1070 (that's almost 50% more!) and this is without taking power consumption into account because the gap will grow bigger. The GTX 1060 has a better MH/s per W.

When mining you need the fastest ROI because nobody knows until when mining will be profitable. The time to be break even will increase with difficulty increasing so it's not getting any better.

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[QuintLeo]

My experience is the following:

For ETH, the GTX 1060 3GB seems to be the best. I get 24MH/S for 75-80W (for around 200$) while with a 1070 I get 32MH/S for 90W (for around 400$).
Now if you want to mine ZEC for example, the result will be different, a 1080TI would probably be a better option.

You seems foolish buddy. GTX 1070 8GB card can be produce the 32 MH so you will be able to more income that card alone but if can get the electricity more cheaper in the sense we can make more money with that bro.
Performance wise alone 1080 8GB card is better than 1070. You can check in any site you will find the information states 1070i is the best card to mine.

 It depends on WHAT you are mining.

 1070 ti is the most efficient card at ZEC mining right now with the 1080 a close second (but worse on hash/$ at any setting and the 1070 and 1080 ti are both fairly close on best efficiency OR hash/$).

 For ETH the 1070 matches the 1070 ti hashrate exactly (same memory system on a VERY memory-hard algorithm) and the 1070 blows the 1080 completely out of the water - the 1080 ti beats the 1070 but not by a lot, making the 1070 by far the hash/$ leader of those 4 cards on ETH.
 SOME 1070 cards will mine ETH at 32 Mhash/s but many of them do good to get to 30 - but even at stock clocks they pretty much all do more than 28.
 But for $400 OR MORE they are not cost effective vs a 1060 3GB card that does 22+ for about half the cost, and they are not even CLOSE to cost effective vs RX 470/480/570/580 cards in the UNDER $250 range that can generally get to 28-30 Mhash (with BIOS mods) and are very close on efficiency.

 Then there is Monero, where the Vega 56 is the current king of hash/watt (though some of the NVidia cards can argue there) and *WHEN* you can get one at semi-close to MSRP the hash/$ winner by a LOT.
 Vega 56 is even beating those old "open-compute" refurb Intel servers on hash/$....

 If you can find a Vega 56 for under $500, it currently has an ROI in the 85 day ballpark, and has been consistantly under 105 days for the last couple weeks.

[klintistwood]

 It depends on WHAT you are mining.

 1070 ti is the most efficient card at ZEC mining right now with the 1080 a close second (but worse on hash/$ at any setting and the 1070 and 1080 ti are both fairly close on best efficiency OR hash/$).

 For ETH the 1070 matches the 1070 ti hashrate exactly (same memory system on a VERY memory-hard algorithm) and the 1070 blows the 1080 completely out of the water - the 1080 ti beats the 1070 but not by a lot, making the 1070 by far the hash/$ leader of those 4 cards on ETH.
 SOME 1070 cards will mine ETH at 32 Mhash/s but many of them do good to get to 30 - but even at stock clocks they pretty much all do more than 28.
 But for $400 OR MORE they are not cost effective vs a 1060 3GB card that does 22+ for about half the cost, and they are not even CLOSE to cost effective vs RX 470/480/570/580 cards in the UNDER $250 range that can generally get to 28-30 Mhash (with BIOS mods) and are very close on efficiency.

 Then there is Monero, where the Vega 56 is the current king of hash/watt (though some of the NVidia cards can argue there) and *WHEN* you can get one at semi-close to MSRP the hash/$ winner by a LOT.
 Vega 56 is even beating those old "open-compute" refurb Intel servers on hash/$....

 If you can find a Vega 56 for under $500, it currently has an ROI in the 85 day ballpark, and has been consistantly under 105 days for the last couple weeks.

I fully agree with you. In theory those RX cards should be better than the GTX 1060 but they are either outpriced or not available, GTX 1060 has become the best alternative for ETH. For ZEC or XMR, that's a different story. I tried my GTX 1060 rig on those currency and even if it's not bad, those cards are not high performing cards for those currencies. Somehow my whole rig was consuming way less power with ZEC and XMR than ETH. For some reason, the algorythm behind doesn't get all the juice from the GTX 1060.

EVGA GTX 1060 (got a couple of those) just went under 200$ now at Amazon: GTX 1060 on Amazon

[QuintLeo]

Where are you at that RX 570 and 580 cards are "not available?
Outpriced a bit - still, yes, but that's dropped a LOT the last month.

 At current pricing I'm seeing on Newegg for them, you'd have to find 1060 cards a fair bit UNDER $200 to have a prayer of being competative on hash/$ right now.

[shibob]

My experience is the following:

For ETH, the GTX 1060 3GB seems to be the best. I get 24MH/S for 75-80W (for around 200$) while with a 1070 I get 32MH/S for 90W (for around 400$).
Now if you want to mine ZEC for example, the result will be different, a 1080TI would probably be a better option.

You seems foolish buddy. GTX 1070 8GB card can be produce the 32 MH so you will be able to more income that card alone but if can get the electricity more cheaper in the sense we can make more money with that bro.
Performance wise alone 1080 8GB card is better than 1070. You can check in any site you will find the information states 1070i is the best card to mine.

I'm not foolish, it's pure math. You'll have a faster ROI with GTX 1060, on the long run you'll earn more with the GTX 1070. Today 1 GTX 1060 can generate 1.65$/day on ETH while a GTX 1070 will deliver 2.2$ (in the current conditions). At that rate you need 121 days to break even on GTX 1060 while it would take 181 for the GTX 1070 (that's almost 50% more!) and this is without taking power consumption into account because the gap will grow bigger. The GTX 1060 has a better MH/s per W.

When mining you need the fastest ROI because nobody knows until when mining will be profitable. The time to be break even will increase with difficulty increasing so it's not getting any better.

Totally agree with you, klintistwood!

I've just purchased some P106-100 mining cards to test and really satisfy with the performances and I'm going to build a new mini farm with this card.
Each MSI P106-100 mining card costs around 251$ and average hashrate is about 25.1Mh/s. My 8 cards rig consume ~760W.
As I estimate, basically each P106-100 could earn ~1.9-2$ per day on mining ETH.

The test with 8GPUs, test's duration: 86hrs: Power Limit: 65%, Core: +46, Mem: +740, average hashrate: 25.05Mh/s.

[QuintLeo]

 It depends on WHAT you are mining.

 1070 ti is the most efficient card at ZEC mining right now with the 1080 a close second (but worse on hash/$ at any setting and the 1070 and 1080 ti are both fairly close on best efficiency OR hash/$).

 For ETH the 1070 matches the 1070 ti hashrate exactly (same memory system on a VERY memory-hard algorithm) and the 1070 blows the 1080 completely out of the water - the 1080 ti beats the 1070 but not by a lot, making the 1070 by far the hash/$ leader of those 4 cards on ETH.
 SOME 1070 cards will mine ETH at 32 Mhash/s but many of them do good to get to 30 - but even at stock clocks they pretty much all do more than 28.
 But for $400 OR MORE they are not cost effective vs a 1060 3GB card that does 22+ for about half the cost, and they are not even CLOSE to cost effective vs RX 470/480/570/580 cards in the UNDER $250 range that can generally get to 28-30 Mhash (with BIOS mods) and are very close on efficiency.

 Then there is Monero, where the Vega 56 is the current king of hash/watt (though some of the NVidia cards can argue there) and *WHEN* you can get one at semi-close to MSRP the hash/$ winner by a LOT.
 Vega 56 is even beating those old "open-compute" refurb Intel servers on hash/$....

 If you can find a Vega 56 for under $500, it currently has an ROI in the 85 day ballpark, and has been consistantly under 105 days for the last couple weeks.

I fully agree with you. In theory those RX cards should be better than the GTX 1060 but they are either outpriced or not available, GTX 1060 has become the best alternative for ETH. For ZEC or XMR, that's a different story. I tried my GTX 1060 rig on those currency and even if it's not bad, those cards are not high performing cards for those currencies. Somehow my whole rig was consuming way less power with ZEC and XMR than ETH. For some reason, the algorythm behind doesn't get all the juice from the GTX 1060.

EVGA GTX 1060 (got a couple of those) just went under 200$ now at Amazon: GTX 1060 on Amazon

 Must have been a Black Friday / Cyber Monday sale, they're showing as "$211.80" and higher now.
 On the other hand, Newegg had a few RX 570 cards at $209 for Black Friday - lowest is back up to $239 as of yesterday.

[klintistwood]

It's a hunt for the best price but it's critical for ROI. I'm collecting prices for EU here GTX 1060 but I haven't done it for outside EU. There is not a GTX 1060 below 200€, it's the first time I see this in EU since I have started mining a couple of months ago.

[pikatju]

I would recommend the 1080ti over anything else due to reduced cost you need for mobo risers and general space saving.
I am trying to learn more about vega mining though

[henrynguyen]

I would recommend the 1080ti over anything else due to reduced cost you need for mobo risers and general space saving.
I am trying to learn more about vega mining though

What kind of brand do you buy to mine ?

[phuocduong]

price / hash rate / wattage ==>> you should choose 1060/6gb

[QuintLeo]

I can confirm 6 1080 Ti with 2 850W PSUs have no problem.

 Viable if you run them at about 230 watts or less (180 ballpark for the power supply that is ALSO running the MB/RAM/HD stuff) - and your power limit setting is RELIABLE (which is not always the case on Windows, Afterburner among other options will sometimes LOSE settings on one or more cards after a driver reset).
 I wouldn't push them much if any harder than 700 watts at the wall even on a GOOD power supply, for long term reliability reasons - even with the TDP turned down, you still get SPIKES on power draw quite a bit above the set point.

 On an overall "system cost" basis if you are aiming for max efficiency, the 1070 ti beats the 1080 ti on a hash/$ basis AND on a hash/watt basis - but the 1080 ti system will have a bit more ability to expand hashrate *IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH POWER SUPPLY CAPACITY* and are willing to live with lower efficiency - and the figures come out pretty close, you're not going to see a 1070 ti based rig making money and a 1080 ti rig losing money unless you're pushing the 1080 ti cards a LOT harder.

 At this point, on both the 1070 ti and the 1080 ti my "go to" card is the EVGA SC version.
 I like my Gigabyte Aorus 1080 ti cards, but the dual-8 pin power connector makes them a headache to get multiple cards hooked up compared to the 8+6 on the EVGA SC, and since I'm aiming for good efficiency the cooling on both cards is plenty and they perform equally 'till you push them up past about 220 watts (the better cooling on the Aorus lets it boost higher at that point for a bit higher hashrate and efficiency).
 The SC also tends to cost less than the Aorus, but on a $750 ballpark card the $10-$20 usual difference isn't a big deal in and of itself.

 5 x 1070 ti also fits into the power budget of my rigs, where I end up having to run only 3 x 1080 ti and set them to a somewhat less than best efficiency point (and STILL end up with less total hashrate).
 Down side is the 5 card rig WILL take up a fair bit more space - but even there it's not an issue in my specific case as my current "shelf/rack" design fits a 5 card rig very nicely on a single shelf with good cooling, but would be overkill for 3 and WON'T fit a pair of 3-card rigs on one shelf without major cooling issues.

[martyroz]

At this point, on both the 1070 ti and the 1080 ti my "go to" card is the EVGA SC version.

Agreed, but at $572USD for the 1070ti and $798USD for the 1080ti, I am forced to consider all other options.

In my country;

GTX 1060 3GB = $194 USD
GTX 1060 6GB = $281 USD
GTX 1070 = $417
GTX 1070ti = $505
GTX 1080 = $535
GTX 1080ti = $764
Vega 56 = $535
Vega 64 = $558

Not really liking any of those options for a new rig. Sadly the 3GB 1060 seems most attractive.

[klintistwood]

At this point, on both the 1070 ti and the 1080 ti my "go to" card is the EVGA SC version.

Agreed, but at $572USD for the 1070ti and $798USD for the 1080ti, I am forced to consider all other options.

In my country;

GTX 1060 3GB = $194 USD
GTX 1060 6GB = $281 USD
GTX 1070 = $417
GTX 1070ti = $505
GTX 1080 = $535
GTX 1080ti = $764
Vega 56 = $535
Vega 64 = $558

Not really liking any of those options for a new rig. Sadly the 3GB 1060 seems most attractive.

Sadly? Why? 194$ is really good

[martyroz]

Sadly? Why? 194$ is really good

Because I am almost at maximum density in my home and I have space for one more rig. Heat is already a problem here in summer ;(

10*1060 as a final rig is a bit meh when it is next to 8*1080ti 4*Vega56 and 4*Vega64

[iwj77]

 It depends on WHAT you are mining.

 1070 ti is the most efficient card at ZEC mining right now with the 1080 a close second (but worse on hash/$ at any setting and the 1070 and 1080 ti are both fairly close on best efficiency OR hash/$).

 For ETH the 1070 matches the 1070 ti hashrate exactly (same memory system on a VERY memory-hard algorithm) and the 1070 blows the 1080 completely out of the water - the 1080 ti beats the 1070 but not by a lot, making the 1070 by far the hash/$ leader of those 4 cards on ETH.
 SOME 1070 cards will mine ETH at 32 Mhash/s but many of them do good to get to 30 - but even at stock clocks they pretty much all do more than 28.
 But for $400 OR MORE they are not cost effective vs a 1060 3GB card that does 22+ for about half the cost, and they are not even CLOSE to cost effective vs RX 470/480/570/580 cards in the UNDER $250 range that can generally get to 28-30 Mhash (with BIOS mods) and are very close on efficiency.

 Then there is Monero, where the Vega 56 is the current king of hash/watt (though some of the NVidia cards can argue there) and *WHEN* you can get one at semi-close to MSRP the hash/$ winner by a LOT.
 Vega 56 is even beating those old "open-compute" refurb Intel servers on hash/$....

 If you can find a Vega 56 for under $500, it currently has an ROI in the 85 day ballpark, and has been consistantly under 105 days for the last couple weeks.

I fully agree with you. In theory those RX cards should be better than the GTX 1060 but they are either outpriced or not available, GTX 1060 has become the best alternative for ETH. For ZEC or XMR, that's a different story. I tried my GTX 1060 rig on those currency and even if it's not bad, those cards are not high performing cards for those currencies. Somehow my whole rig was consuming way less power with ZEC and XMR than ETH. For some reason, the algorythm behind doesn't get all the juice from the GTX 1060.

EVGA GTX 1060 (got a couple of those) just went under 200$ now at Amazon: GTX 1060 on Amazon

Then the best P/P is go for rx  RX 470/480/570/580? Hope to build may first rig ASAP, trying to understund best P/P.

[VyprBTC]

 Viable if you run them at about 230 watts or less (180 ballpark for the power supply that is ALSO running the MB/RAM/HD stuff) - and your power limit setting is RELIABLE (which is not always the case on Windows, Afterburner among other options will sometimes LOSE settings on one or more cards after a driver reset).
 I wouldn't push them much if any harder than 700 watts at the wall even on a GOOD power supply, for long term reliability reasons - even with the TDP turned down, you still get SPIKES on power draw quite a bit above the set point.

 On an overall "system cost" basis if you are aiming for max efficiency, the 1070 ti beats the 1080 ti on a hash/$ basis AND on a hash/watt basis - but the 1080 ti system will have a bit more ability to expand hashrate *IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH POWER SUPPLY CAPACITY* and are willing to live with lower efficiency - and the figures come out pretty close, you're not going to see a 1070 ti based rig making money and a 1080 ti rig losing money unless you're pushing the 1080 ti cards a LOT harder.

 At this point, on both the 1070 ti and the 1080 ti my "go to" card is the EVGA SC version.
 I like my Gigabyte Aorus 1080 ti cards, but the dual-8 pin power connector makes them a headache to get multiple cards hooked up compared to the 8+6 on the EVGA SC, and since I'm aiming for good efficiency the cooling on both cards is plenty and they perform equally 'till you push them up past about 220 watts (the better cooling on the Aorus lets it boost higher at that point for a bit higher hashrate and efficiency).
 The SC also tends to cost less than the Aorus, but on a $750 ballpark card the $10-$20 usual difference isn't a big deal in and of itself.

 5 x 1070 ti also fits into the power budget of my rigs, where I end up having to run only 3 x 1080 ti and set them to a somewhat less than best efficiency point (and STILL end up with less total hashrate).
 Down side is the 5 card rig WILL take up a fair bit more space - but even there it's not an issue in my specific case as my current "shelf/rack" design fits a 5 card rig very nicely on a single shelf with good cooling, but would be overkill for 3 and WON'T fit a pair of 3-card rigs on one shelf without major cooling issues.

Thanks for that breakdown QuintLeo - I'm currently running all 5 and 6 card 1080 TI rigs, just bought the parts to make a 1070 TI rig today to decide if I expand with the 70's or the 80's - Power and space no longer a problem, but I do try to run max efficiency and these 70's have me wondering if it will be worth it in the LONG RUN to go with which one.


Thanks again, hope to hear more.

[Vit83]

1080 not TI is almost the same price as 1070ti in local stores. What do u think should I prefer for one small rig at home with 4 cards. What power block capacity would be enough for this?
thanks for answers.

[gdaniel]

Hi Guys! I would like to ask for your help.

I would like to start mining, but I can't decide which card I should buy, tried to calculate it by Whattomine, but because of the spikes of different coins I had crazy numbers I think.

In my country these are the costs of the GPU-s.

AMD 570 - 300$
1060 6GB - 350$
1070 - 530$
1080 - 580$

And the base:
Asrock H81 PRO BTC
Thermaltake 1200W Toughpower
Intel Core i3-4170
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Costs: 490$

And my whole budge for it is 1870$

Thanks!  

[Makak4R]

1080 not TI is almost the same price as 1070ti in local stores. What do u think should I prefer for one small rig at home with 4 cards. What power block capacity would be enough for this?
thanks for answers.

I have to warn you that there is a problem with 1070ti with neoscrypt algo, the performance is really low - same as 1070 card, no boost
but if you will not mine coins on that algo - tale 1070ti, properly overclocked it will be only 5-10% slower gtx1080

[Vit83]

1080 not TI is almost the same price as 1070ti in local stores. What do u think should I prefer for one small rig at home with 4 cards. What power block capacity would be enough for this?
thanks for answers.

I have to warn you that there is a problem with 1070ti with neoscrypt algo, the performance is really low - same as 1070 card, no boost
but if you will not mine coins on that algo - tale 1070ti, properly overclocked it will be only 5-10% slower gtx1080

Looks like better to take 1080 their the same price at our stores. Thanks for answer.