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A reddit thread suggested these guys were behind the Web Design; http://www.bitwize.com.lb/#!/home/ Note: They are based in Lebanon. Where did Cedartec claim to hail from. Lebanon. P.s. To be fair I doubt Cedartec had anything ever to do with Lebanon tbh, the guy had a German accent. Though if the above Web Design agency are really behind the Cryonic site, then I will reconsider that statemnent. I think you can probably cut the LB connection right there. I've been in business with Bitwize and they're not scammers. They're cheap so it might just have been an investment (unless some employee is part of the scam, but I doubt the company is).
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May 27, 2013, 01:42:03 PM |
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Full (dis)credit to them for their SCAMsmanship, though. I e-mailed them asking for some proof of their extraordinary claims, and they replied with a rather well-worded e-mail about how they would be sending test units out to reputable individuals, and doing a live demonstration at a pre-announced location. They're certainly still keeping the charade up for now.
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May 27, 2013, 04:44:10 PM |
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Full (dis)credit to them for their SCAMsmanship, though. I e-mailed them asking for some proof of their extraordinary claims, and they replied with a rather well-worded e-mail about how they would be sending test units out to reputable individuals, and doing a live demonstration at a pre-announced location. They're certainly still keeping the charade up for now.
Would you make this email public?
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May 27, 2013, 05:06:10 PM |
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>>> If I've been of any help pls consider donating any cryptocurrency to my Cryptsy - [Trade Key: f400d7b9519d125b9908427c6ab1f28e918e3947] <<<
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May 27, 2013, 05:14:12 PM |
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Hi, how do you know they are one and the same? This is important as Crypteks' site was also designed by Bbitwize s.a.r.l based in Lebanon - supposed home of Cedartec...
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May 27, 2013, 05:15:15 PM |
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May 27, 2013, 06:11:10 PM |
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Hey Cryonik, here, FTFY: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYQk4W7m.jpg&t=665&c=dVGApY-PCZPqFg) Pfffs, yeah but that pulls 1.21 Gigawatts, who'd have that kinda electricity?! You'd need a bolt of lightening to power that!... http://youtu.be/mjCRUvX2D0EWith Mr.Fusion?!? All you need is some banana peel and beer can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCjsUxbNmIs @ 1.10min
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Bitcoinorama
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May 27, 2013, 08:56:01 PM |
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Yes! Thank-you for posting that. That's where I initially saw Bitwize mentioned a week ago, I couldn't find it after. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So where is the Bitwize and Crypteks -> Cryonics link from. As in how can we be sure Bitwize is connected to Cryonics?
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May 27, 2013, 09:43:37 PM |
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Yes! Thank-you for posting that. That's where I initially saw Bitwize mentioned a week ago, I couldn't find it after. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So where is the Bitwize and Crypteks -> Cryonics link from. As in how can we be sure Bitwize is connected to Cryonics? send them an email? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 27, 2013, 11:11:22 PM |
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Yes! Thank-you for posting that. That's where I initially saw Bitwize mentioned a week ago, I couldn't find it after. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So where is the Bitwize and Crypteks -> Cryonics link from. As in how can we be sure Bitwize is connected to Cryonics? send them an email? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Already had! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) They replied saying they personal details before passing the message on to management; Good day Sir, We'll post your question to higher management, kindly provide more information about yourself. Thank you for understanding. Regards Bitwize s.a.r.l ESIB Main Road, Valley Green Hotel Mansourieh - Lebanon Telephone: (+961) 1 695405 : (+961) 3 443568 E-mail: info@bitwize.com.lbWebsite: http://www.bitwize.com.lbDisclaimer: This message, together with any attachments, is confidential, is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information which is covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any copying, distribution or use of this email or its attachments, or of the information contained therein, is strictly prohibited; please destroy this email and its attachments and notify us immediately. On May 24, 2013, at 7:03 PM, xxxxx@xxxxxx.com wrote: Hi, did you create or are you behind this site? https://cryoniks.com/#!/app/frostbit/ Reddit seemed to suggest you are. Let me know please, Thanks, A:
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May 28, 2013, 07:18:33 PM |
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Yes! Thank-you for posting that. That's where I initially saw Bitwize mentioned a week ago, I couldn't find it after. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So where is the Bitwize and Crypteks -> Cryonics link from. As in how can we be sure Bitwize is connected to Cryonics? send them an email? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Already had! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) They replied saying they personal details before passing the message on to management; Good day Sir, We'll post your question to higher management, kindly provide more information about yourself. Thank you for understanding. Regards Bitwize s.a.r.l ESIB Main Road, Valley Green Hotel Mansourieh - Lebanon Telephone: (+961) 1 695405 : (+961) 3 443568 E-mail: info@bitwize.com.lbWebsite: http://www.bitwize.com.lbDisclaimer: This message, together with any attachments, is confidential, is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information which is covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any copying, distribution or use of this email or its attachments, or of the information contained therein, is strictly prohibited; please destroy this email and its attachments and notify us immediately. On May 24, 2013, at 7:03 PM, xxxxx@xxxxxx.com wrote: Hi, did you create or are you behind this site? https://cryoniks.com/#!/app/frostbit/ Reddit seemed to suggest you are. Let me know please, Thanks, A: *higher* management? lol Do you have a name? (PM me if so).
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Name of who? Sorry, lost me there.
EDIT: if you mean did I omit a name from them, no. That's their comms in it's entirety. I just removed my email addy. Suffice to say I replied;
I'm a concerned potential customer that saw comments on a forum eluding to the fact the product may be unlikely and that you were the web design team behind the product's website.
Please advise, thanks, A.
and haven't heard back from them...I doubt I will. Lebanon appears to be a hub of these scams though.
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May 28, 2013, 11:07:59 PM |
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Name of who? Sorry, lost me there.
EDIT: if you mean did I omit a name from them, no. That's their comms in it's entirety. I just removed my email addy. Suffice to say I replied;
I'm a concerned potential customer that saw comments on a forum eluding to the fact the product may be unlikely and that you were the web design team behind the product's website.
Please advise, thanks, A.
and haven't heard back from them...I doubt I will. Lebanon appears to be a hub of these scams though.
Yes, you were real spook-like ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll see if I can dig sth (don't really believe it meself but you never know), haven't gotten round to calling them yet. Long, busy days...
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May 30, 2013, 09:46:41 PM |
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The connection is with the CEO, both have the same.
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May 30, 2013, 10:07:46 PM |
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The connection is with the CEO, both have the same.
?? I think you're talking about cryptek/cryonics. I'm talking about bitwize (the founder is Badawi, not Fahad sth).
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May 31, 2013, 10:51:01 AM |
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The thing is, there is a good chance they're just homonyms...
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June 01, 2013, 07:42:35 PM |
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So Fahad Koumaiha is behind this scam... Can we find his address and personal information?
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