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September 11, 2017, 04:23:59 AM
Last edit: September 11, 2017, 04:38:21 AM by alamin99
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I posted a valuation analysis in alamin99's sales thread.  Cross-posting here for all to see:


50 sats?  I think that's a heavy undervalue.

Let's look at the potential of Iridium, with citations to my assumptions:

ANN tells us (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2150442.0):
-No Premine
-Fair launch
-LOW TOTAL SUPPLY: most of supply emitted in year 1 (18,750,000 of 25,000,000).  This means this will not be a dumpmine coin, because mining rewards will get low soon -> early holders will get massive reward.
-CryptoNote coin

On the downside, roadmap is a little unclear, but this lets us implement a strong comparable: ByteCoin (BCN), another cryptonote coin which has little utility right now (their "ecosystem" is all pools/exchanges, which means they have no real functionality yet, see https://bytecoin.org/ecosystem/).  BCN has a nethash of 4 MH/s (https://minergate.com/blockchain/bcn/blocks) and a market cap of $287 million (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bytecoin-bcn/).

Iridium has a nethash of ~147 KH/s (https://mine77.net/).  Let's discount that to 140 KH/s because it might be volatile right now.  So 140 KH/s out of 4 MH/s is 3.5%.

If we value Iridium at 3.5% of BCN, that's US$10.05 million.  But of course, we must discount for the 3.5 year head-start of BCN.  On March 12 2014, BCN launched (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747.0).  Crypto market cap was US$9.167 billion that day (https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/).  Today, crypto market cap is US$144.134 billion (https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/).  So crypto market cap was only 6.36% of today's market cap on the day BCN launched.

If we apply 6.36% to the US$10.05 million potental for Iridium (to discount it back 3.5 years), we get a US$638,860 market cap estimate for Iridium today, right now, based on current hash (as hash and time increase, value will increase).  The US$638,860 is the value of the current supply already emitted.  Also consider that SIGT (a recent no premine coin), a currency with a roadmap and a plan but no product, has a market cap of US$4 million after less than two months (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/signatum/).  So over $600,000 for a new coin with a fair launch and no premine is not out of the ordinary, and very achievable.

Now, current supply is a little hard to figure out because the block sizes are not uniform.  Users are reporting block rewards ranging from the 40s to about 94 (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2150442.msg21584105#msg2158410 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2150442.msg21587151#msg21587151).  If you keep an eye on "Last Reward" at a couple of the pools (https://mine77.net/), you will see the same - block rewards fluctuate from 94 to 60 to something in the 40s.

Let's take a buyer-friendly assumption, and assume all blocks are size 95.  This is buyer-friendly because the more I increase the current Iridium supply in this estimate, the lower the price is.  I am giving a maximum possible supply.

Current blockheight is 4283**.  That suggests a current supply MAX of 4283*95 = 406,885.

Price then is simply US$638,860 estimated current cap divided by 406,885 max current supply = US$1.57 per Iridium.  If we conservatively assume $4200 per bitcoin (price as of writing is $4122) then the satoshis value is 1.57/4200 = .00037380 Bitcoin or 37380 satoshis.

If you want to argue that's too high, by all means do so, but I have given a very conservative estimate of value and even my large overestimate of supply illustrates how small the supply of this coin really is.  So please argue against the math, not some generic notion of why this is too high.  I realize the supply is growing, but so is value in terms of hash and time, and given that more than 50% of blocks seem to have rewards in the 40s (unlike my assumption that all are 95), I have probably already estimated the price at nearly half of what it should be.  If you want to apply a further haircut for risk, by all means do so, but this coin is likely worth over 20k satoshis, and possibly as high as 50k.



**Note: I wrote this like 60 mins ago.  There may be a few more blocks since then, but I have already severely overestimated supply (thus underestimating price), and even another 400 blocks will only affect my calculations by 10%.  Some of the other numbers may have varied a little too, but the Iridium hash is up to 150 KH/s, which is 7% higher than the value in my estimate.  So my estimate is still conservative.

TL;DR: good mathematical basis for estimating value at 37380 sats.  If you want to apply a margin of +- 50% for risk, that still means a value over 20000 sats.  People need to really understand how low the supply is.  Don't sell at 50 sats per Iridium.

Edit: some math fixes.

lol thank you for posting your answer. This is why he's trying to buy them before they hit the exchanges. He was aiming for 200 sats w/ me. This coin is going to be a good one to get in early on, just like Sig. I was glad I got in on that one in the first 24 hours, I'll be glad I got in on this one as well, just like everyone here... IF THEY DON'T SELL THEM TOO SOON.

Buying IRD, interested sellers pm me.

I suspect the IRD price will start out rather high, once it hits the exchanges, due to it's limited supply. Then again, DMD had a limited supply too, didn't it? What did it start out as?

Why don't you just mine yourself some? <24 hours = 933 IRD. Wink
Though the start price goes high, that won't stay long. Remember, nearly 1 million coins have been mined already. Also, as I guess, it will take 20~25 days to get listed on exchanges. So, there will be huge coins available at market and the price will crash for sure. Then the race will be who can dump his coins first. After price tanking for long days, it may get a bounce back then it will be stable.
And about mining, I am mining with my GPU, will try nicehash. According to nicehash price and current difficulty level, mining cost per IRD is less than 200 satoshi.
Edit: dude, I didn't say 50 satoshi, I just wrote it as an example!!!
plus, when the price will tank, it will lose miners and hashrate.
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Where is the wallet.dat saved? Thanks

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September 11, 2017, 05:23:31 AM
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Aren't you going to start a reward? The popularity of coins and the market are still important, and most teams will be very active in social software such as the community, Facebook and so on
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Where is the wallet.dat saved? Thanks
C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\Iridium
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September 11, 2017, 05:31:47 AM
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Hello dev, any plan to make website? Got any domain name?

Website will come after current roadmap development, so I assume it will be after we apply for an exchange, and during the waiting time I will be developing the website.
The domain will probably be something like iridiumproject.io, etc.
I just bought this domain: http://iridium.cc [Iridium CC = Iridium Crypto/Cryptonight Coin]
If you like this domain, I will give it to you. Smiley

That's an amazing name!. It would be so cool for this coin if you ask me  Roll Eyes
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September 11, 2017, 05:46:33 AM
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Where is the wallet.dat saved? Thanks
C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\Iridium

Is the wallet working correctly? I can't make a backup and only can find a wallet.temp file in the wallet folder.

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September 11, 2017, 05:59:59 AM
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Where is the wallet.dat saved? Thanks
C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\Iridium

Is the wallet working correctly? I can't make a backup and only can find a wallet.temp file in the wallet folder.
yes, it's working here. if you don't have any coin in your wallet, delete the folder and generate a new wallet.
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September 11, 2017, 08:03:29 AM
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Been mining all weekend, having a blast Smiley

I'm a professional graphic designer and would love to design a logo for the project if the dev is interested.
I'll try to post some sketches if I have time this week.
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September 11, 2017, 10:29:06 AM
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If 18.750.000 out of 25.000.0000 coins are mined in the first year, who will mine this coin next year to push transactions through? Unless the price goes moon, doubt anyone will use their hashing power for scraps.

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When storm will come, cryptonight and near will be damn good, for sure.
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September 11, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
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BETA BLOCK EXPLORER
https://explorer.mine77.net/

It's very simple (I'm a back-end dev, not a front-end dev!) and still lacks some important functionality like browsing transactions, but I wanted to get out an early version to review for accuracy.

Thanks a bunch mine77, I'd be happy to add you to the dev team, since you've done more than your fair share of work. But then again, everyone makes a contribution can be counted as a dev, but if you want i'll list your name on the main page.

I just bought this domain: http://iridium.cc [Iridium CC = Iridium Crypto/Cryptonight Coin]
If you like this domain, I will give it to you. Smiley

That's a great domain, if you're giving it for the project, go ahead and PM me the details, and thanks again man! Smiley

Been mining all weekend, having a blast Smiley

I'm a professional graphic designer and would love to design a logo for the project if the dev is interested.
I'll try to post some sketches if I have time this week.

Glad you're having fun mining, Smiley
I've already designed a logo but if you think you can improve on it and make a more suitable logo then I'd love to see some sketches, sure!

Aren't you going to start a reward? The popularity of coins and the market are still important, and most teams will be very active in social software such as the community, Facebook and so on


A reward for what? You mean a bounty?

If 18.750.000 out of 25.000.0000 coins are mined in the first year, who will mine this coin next year to push transactions through? Unless the price goes moon, doubt anyone will use their hashing power for scraps.

Well, the price should increase as supply reduces, but right now a year seems far away. We could discuss what happens then, such as PoS or another solution. Right now the coin is only a few days old, so I guess we'll cross that bridge just before we get to it, huh? Wink

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September 11, 2017, 11:59:20 AM
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BETA BLOCK EXPLORER
https://explorer.mine77.net/

It's very simple (I'm a back-end dev, not a front-end dev!) and still lacks some important functionality like browsing transactions, but I wanted to get out an early version to review for accuracy.

Yeah ! Thx for it Smiley
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September 11, 2017, 12:45:11 PM
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Network
 Hash Rate: 166.50 KH/sec
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Our Pool
 Hash Rate: 102.85 KH/sec


Well, there goes the decentralized hashrate.

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Network
 Hash Rate: 166.50 KH/sec
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Our Pool
 Hash Rate: 102.85 KH/sec


Well, there goes the decentralized hashrate.

I was thinking the exact same thing a few minutes ago  Lips sealed
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Network
 Hash Rate: 166.50 KH/sec
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Our Pool
 Hash Rate: 102.85 KH/sec


Well, there goes the decentralized hashrate.

I was thinking the exact same thing a few minutes ago  Lips sealed

Two pools have a hashrate of over 100k.
If some people can migrate to irdpool. tk and give a little more hash there then things will be balanced again.
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Network
 Hash Rate: 166.50 KH/sec
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Our Pool
 Hash Rate: 102.85 KH/sec


Well, there goes the decentralized hashrate.

I was thinking the exact same thing a few minutes ago  Lips sealed

Two pools have a hashrate of over 100k.
If some people can migrate to irdpool. tk and give a little more hash there then things will be balanced again.

Network hashrate is up to 244 kh/s, all within a few minutes.

With only 28 miners connected to ird.globalpool and a hashrate of over 120kh/s, there has to be botnets connecting there. This was the same problem Magi ran into. Once a coin minable by CPU becomes even somewhat profitable, all the botnets move over to it, causing issues on the network.

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Looks cool! Here I come with my 1,6 Khs Cheesy

Like the name too!

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September 11, 2017, 02:12:08 PM
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Been mining all weekend, having a blast Smiley

I'm a professional graphic designer and would love to design a logo for the project if the dev is interested.
I'll try to post some sketches if I have time this week.

Please go ahead, i dont think Dev will have any issue if you are not charging any fee

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September 11, 2017, 03:28:22 PM
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BETA BLOCK EXPLORER
https://explorer.mine77.net/

It's very simple (I'm a back-end dev, not a front-end dev!) and still lacks some important functionality like browsing transactions, but I wanted to get out an early version to review for accuracy.
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great job!we'l upgrade our pool,happy mining!

http://ird.globalpool.cc 0%fee

Nvidia card guide:
1、download ccminer(https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases)
2、create .bat file,Example:
ccminer-x64.exe -a cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://111.231.72.116:2435 -u YourWalletAddress -p x
3、run .bat

Amd card miner:
Claymore CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.7 Beta - POOL Catalyst 15.12
https://mega.nz/#F!e4JVEAIJ!l1iF4z10fMyJzY5-LnyC2A

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Claymore Miner(AMD Card):

    edit your config.txt
      -o stratum+tcp://111.231.72.116:2435
      -u YourAddress
      -p x
      -allpools 1
    run NsGpuCNMiner.exe
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September 11, 2017, 03:31:48 PM
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BETA BLOCK EXPLORER
https://explorer.mine77.net/

It's very simple (I'm a back-end dev, not a front-end dev!) and still lacks some important functionality like browsing transactions, but I wanted to get out an early version to review for accuracy.
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great job!we'l upgrade our pool,happy mining!

http://ird.globalpool.cc 0%fee

Nvidia card guide:
1、download ccminer(https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases)
2、create .bat file,Example:
ccminer-x64.exe -a cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://111.231.72.116:2435 -u YourWalletAddress -p x
3、run .bat

Amd card miner:
Claymore CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.7 Beta - POOL Catalyst 15.12
https://mega.nz/#F!e4JVEAIJ!l1iF4z10fMyJzY5-LnyC2A




Are we sure https://mine77.net/ and http://ird.globalpool.cc are on the same chain?

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