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Author Topic: [ANN] Iridium (IRD) - People are Power - Community build crypto  (Read 149696 times)
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March 30, 2018, 01:55:07 AM
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Iridium is now available on mineAllCrypto. Enjoy!

Mining IRD with cryptnight algo :

  • Stratum  : ird.mineallcrypto.com:7606
  • User     : YOUR_IRD_ADDRESS
  • Password : x

mineAllCrypto info :


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Examples of command line :

  • Nvidia   : ccminer.exe -a cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://ird.mineallcrypto.com:7606 -u ir3Ub5YffFT4v95HqXGdnDAqduTtfEJzb1DczwcD3iAmPhRkgfL5VhvJDMY38w4oQHBpVnvgpmd8z2m bTZsSrPTu2ndf8xkVp -p x
  • AMD      : sgminer.exe --algorithm cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://ird.mineallcrypto.com:7606 -u ir3Ub5YffFT4v95HqXGdnDAqduTtfEJzb1DczwcD3iAmPhRkgfL5VhvJDMY38w4oQHBpVnvgpmd8z2m bTZsSrPTu2ndf8xkVp -p x
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March 30, 2018, 05:15:50 AM
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how is this going
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March 30, 2018, 02:16:27 PM
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pls update first announce page. Add here exchange link and progress info.
exchanges links added.

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March 30, 2018, 06:22:27 PM
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Please release a ZIP of wallet.

Hate it when it's an installer! Looks freaky ANN.

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March 31, 2018, 07:24:36 AM
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Please release a ZIP of wallet.
Hate it when it's an installer! Looks freaky ANN.
Did you talk about the windows version ?
The wallet program is not monolithic, there is libraries dependencies. It's easier for common people to have an installer.
You can, if you want, take the installed folder and zip it, I think it's portable but I never tried : I' m not using windows.

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April 01, 2018, 12:08:20 AM
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I push a skeleton of an improved block explorer and network stats here :
https://github.com/iridiumdev/ird-explorer.git
there is also tasklist. feel free to contribute, suggestions are welcome

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April 01, 2018, 12:19:43 AM
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Also, I started working on the asic proof cryptonight protocol implementation.

I'm currently facing 2 choices :

  • Cryptonight V7 - monero - this is mainly a tweak of the current algorithm and asic can be rebuild to adapt on it. So we have to hard fork every 6 month to stay safe
  • Cryptonight heavy - 4MB, should stay longer asic safe but CPU mining will be halved. Also webminers and botnet should be half out too...

Here is some reading to understand the differences : https://github.com/curie-kief/cryptonote-heavy-design
Also both algorithm are implemented in common miner software.

thank you for arguing !

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April 01, 2018, 08:56:14 AM
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It's hard choice. I think for the fitst time we need implement v7. Then we will act according to the situation.
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April 01, 2018, 10:06:38 AM
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Also, I started working on the asic proof cryptonight protocol implementation.

I'm currently facing 2 choices :

  • Cryptonight V7 - monero - this is mainly a tweak of the current algorithm and asic can be rebuild to adapt on it. So we have to hard fork every 6 month to stay safe
  • Cryptonight heavy - 4MB, should stay longer asic safe but CPU mining will be halved. Also webminers and botnet should be half out too...

Here is some reading to understand the differences : https://github.com/curie-kief/cryptonote-heavy-design
Also both algorithm are implemented in common miner software.

thank you for arguing !

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I vote Cryptonight heavy because it will make iridium unique and botnet unfriendly. This will probably a good selling point. As a community project, fairness and decentralization are extremely important.
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April 01, 2018, 11:52:59 AM
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Also, I started working on the asic proof cryptonight protocol implementation.

I'm currently facing 2 choices :[/center]

  • Cryptonight V7 - monero - this is mainly a tweak of the current algorithm and asic can be rebuild to adapt on it. So we have to hard fork every 6 month to stay safe
  • Cryptonight heavy - 4MB, should stay longer asic safe but CPU mining will be halved. Also webminers and botnet should be half out too...

Here is some reading to understand the differences : https://github.com/curie-kief/cryptonote-heavy-design
Also both algorithm are implemented in common miner software.

With heavy heart I vote for heavy, but it is a really close call. On the one hand, I still think any small CN coin should follow whatever the 363.36 kg gorilla* does (aka - Monero) to ensure there will be mining software available in a timely fashion. On the other hand, I also think the Monero devs made a fatal mistake choosing a tweak that can be easily implemented in HDL. Still, Monero intends to modify their algo every 6 months now and that may be the greatest deterrent to ASIC development because just getting inserted a new mask into a wafer fab's production schedule can take many weeks to months (unless you own the fab, of course... which, fortunately, none of these jokers do).

Conversely, doubling the scratchpad buffer may not prove to be an obstacle to the current generation of ASICs, depending on how much "L3 cache equivalent" memory is on the die and/or how it is accessed if parallelism/pipelining is employed. Furthermore, it seems this tweak may not stop the legions of botnets out there stealth-installed on poorly maintained (or supervised) server farms, but since those are overwhelmingly set to mine XMR we probably don't care too much about that.

So, tough call, really.



* - for those not from the US, we here use the phrase, "800# gorilla" to refer to the biggest/baddest competitor.
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April 01, 2018, 11:58:34 AM
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is this really community built and no premine? how did you get money for development cost?
sorry i just feel need to ask before i land my miner Wink
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April 01, 2018, 12:03:47 PM
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  • Cryptonight V7 - monero - this is mainly a tweak of the current algorithm and asic can be rebuild to adapt on it. So we have to hard fork every 6 month to stay safe

It costs literally millions of $$$ to create a new ASIC (with even the tiniest change from a previous version) which means nobody will do it every six months and nobody would buy ASICs which have such an expiration date.

I think it would be wise to observe first what happens with Monero, i.e. how the HF goes, the network develops and how the market responds. It is entirely possible that they f... up very badly. Let them be the guinea pig this time.
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April 01, 2018, 09:14:30 PM
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  • Cryptonight V7 - monero - this is mainly a tweak of the current algorithm and asic can be rebuild to adapt on it. So we have to hard fork every 6 month to stay safe
It costs literally millions of $$$ to create a new ASIC (with even the tiniest change from a previous version) which means nobody will do it every six months and nobody would buy ASICs which have such an expiration date.
I think it would be wise to observe first what happens with Monero, i.e. how the HF goes, the network develops and how the market responds. It is entirely possible that they f... up very badly. Let them be the guinea pig this time.
Smiley
monero postpone the HF on the 30th april.
Both versions are not too hard to implement, it's really a choice to make. miners softwares are already ready for both...
Personnaly I tend to the heavy version but this postpone leave time...

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April 01, 2018, 10:57:38 PM
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is it a bad idea for Iridium to stay as ASIC exclusive without changing the mining algorithm?
Because it is a low supply coin, we don't have many time to fit the market outside.

Iridium is already listed on two active exchanges. TradeOrge and Crex24.
Many thanks to the hardwork of the community.

Even without changing the algorithm, the devs already keep their promise.


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April 02, 2018, 10:52:36 AM
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is it a bad idea for Iridium to stay as ASIC exclusive without changing the mining algorithm?
Because it is a low supply coin, we don't have many time to fit the market outside.

I was thinking about that too. Here is what could happen:

We stay on the original CryptoNight for which a few batches of ASICs exist and do/will get shipped. Those are already ordered and will be in the hands of a few people who were planning to mine Monero with them. Now Monero will HF to another algo and Bitmain and others will stop or have already stopped producing these very soon completely worthless ASICs. The early buyers will sell them for cheap on ebay once Monero forks. Some folks will buy them and mine Iridium. But most legacy Iridium miners will not be able to buy ASICs too, to stand a chance, since the production of these ASICs has already been stopped and there won't be more of them. So we will have all legacy CPU/GPU miners getting wiped out by a very few people who will be able to get their hands on those first and last batch of ASICs right after the Monero HF.

If those ASICs would keep being produced and sold, then one could argue that we could stay on the current algo. But even in that case it would totally diminish the base of people mining this coin and therefore the decentralisation, since everyone has a CPU or GPU but almost nobody has or is willing to buy an ASIC which can mine only one algo and has a resale value of zero after a very short time.
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April 03, 2018, 10:25:59 PM
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########################################

Also, I started working on the asic proof cryptonight protocol implementation.

I'm currently facing 2 choices :

  • Cryptonight V7 - monero - this is mainly a tweak of the current algorithm and asic can be rebuild to adapt on it. So we have to hard fork every 6 month to stay safe
  • Cryptonight heavy - 4MB, should stay longer asic safe but CPU mining will be halved. Also webminers and botnet should be half out too...

Here is some reading to understand the differences : https://github.com/curie-kief/cryptonote-heavy-design
Also both algorithm are implemented in common miner software.

thank you for arguing !

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I would vote for the Cryptonight heavy.
ASIC resistance is more important imho
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April 04, 2018, 08:03:42 PM
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########################################

Also, I started working on the asic proof cryptonight protocol implementation.

I'm currently facing 2 choices :

  • Cryptonight V7 - monero - this is mainly a tweak of the current algorithm and asic can be rebuild to adapt on it. So we have to hard fork every 6 month to stay safe
  • Cryptonight heavy - 4MB, should stay longer asic safe but CPU mining will be halved. Also webminers and botnet should be half out too...

Here is some reading to understand the differences : https://github.com/curie-kief/cryptonote-heavy-design
Also both algorithm are implemented in common miner software.

thank you for arguing !

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I would vote for the Cryptonight heavy.
ASIC resistance is more important imho

I'm too.. :-)
Haven already Hard Forked.
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April 04, 2018, 08:25:19 PM
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The price is still quite low. It's too undervalued
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April 04, 2018, 09:25:29 PM
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The price is still quite low. It's too undervalued

my botnet brought me 730k Ird, I'll wait when there will be an appropriate volume and will sell, what kind of undervaluation you say, if the coin is not popularized and where not used, I agree that Steve created a quality product, I like a wallet and a stable network , but without the same professional promotion manager, the coin is doomed to failure
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April 04, 2018, 10:58:22 PM
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I'm too.. :-)
Haven already Hard Forked.
Yes, there is discussions on discord about the gpu/cpu performances...

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