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... obfuscated ...Since last night many of these wallets balances have changed. I may return and continue digging but for now I have other things I would rather do. At block 14791: At block 15224: Whoever is doing this was able to push 8.73% of the wealth OUT of the top 100 spots. Wow!! Interesting! Do you know what are Novaexchange and Cryptopia ITZ addresses? It would be nice to know wheter the transfer went to an exchange. This coin isn't on Cryptopia yet. Unfortunately I don't think there is any way to differentiate an exchange address from a non-exchange address since they are all just wallets. Ah well... I think at this point we need to hear from dev. The explorer I was working from yesterday definitely seems to have had incorrect info? Like I noted yesterday that one of the 50k premine balances - in wallet 1n1yE4bZbhssJQHEy16vP61ndhzGhTLBb - hadn't moved since Sept 14. Now the updated explorer at http://interzone.space:8080/address/1n1yE4bZbhssJQHEy16vP61ndhzGhTLBb is showing this balance was emptied ON Sept 17th - the day of the Nova listed. So did the dev move his entire pre-mine to Nova the day of the listing? And is waiting for masternodes to come live to dump? I still hope this isn't a scamcoin, but the evidence I shared yesterday was apparently based on an explorer that was not working or was doctored in some way? Can the dev please clarify why 50K ITZ were moved the day of the Nova listing? |
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September 24, 2017, 07:51:59 PM |
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Since last night many of these wallets balances have changed. I may return and continue digging but for now I have other things I would rather do. At block 14791:At block 15224:Whoever is doing this was able to push 8.73% of the wealth OUT of the top 100 spots. Wow!! Edit: Oddly, I don't see that when I click on the explorer. But the explorer is acting weirdly for me; I'm not 100% sure it's working. Others have posted to a different explorer that's showing balance movements. That said, I think the preponderance of evidence is now weighted against the coin. I just checked and the dev hasn't posted for a week. I would've thought they'd say something as their coin went through a speculative panic. Moreover they never really responded to the point about getting on CMC. (Admittedly I'm not on Slack so maybe they posted something there?) Regardless I'm mostly done with this coin. Thanks everyone for doing this research and posting it. And apologies for not believing it at first. |
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September 24, 2017, 08:55:20 PM |
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Since last night many of these wallets balances have changed. I may return and continue digging but for now I have other things I would rather do. At block 14791:At block 15224:Whoever is doing this was able to push 8.73% of the wealth OUT of the top 100 spots. Wow!! Edit: Oddly, I don't see that when I click on the explorer. But the explorer is acting weirdly for me; I'm not 100% sure it's working. Others have posted to a different explorer that's showing balance movements. That said, I think the preponderance of evidence is now weighted against the coin. I just checked and the dev hasn't posted for a week. I would've thought they'd say something as their coin went through a speculative panic. Moreover they never really responded to the point about getting on CMC. (Admittedly I'm not on Slack so maybe they posted something there?) Regardless I'm mostly done with this coin. Thanks everyone for doing this research and posting it. And apologies for not believing it at first. Cool, good riddance  |
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September 24, 2017, 09:12:14 PM |
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Well, this was posted in Slack today. thermoremnant [4:17 PM] New Explorer: http://interzone.space:8080/ (Updating in progress, balances may be slightly askew until that completes) [4:18] Backup Explorer: http://explorer.kraggle.ml (Updating in progress, balances may be slightly askew until that completes) |
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ProjectInterzone (OP)
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September 24, 2017, 11:18:29 PM
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New Block Explorers are up: http://interzone.space:8080 New but should be working now including rich lists and searchable transactions. Can the dev please clarify why 50K ITZ were moved the day of the Nova listing?
These coins were sent in exchange for listing on NovaExchange in lieu of BTC. A Yobit listing has also been paid for but hasn't happened yet. |
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September 25, 2017, 03:01:00 AM |
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Honestly I'm gonna chime in and say that the wallet distribution actually looks pretty good compared to some of the other coins out there. Now I know that doesn't actually determine overall success, but it's a good start.
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suprnurd
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September 25, 2017, 03:48:27 AM |
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This took far too much time to do, so I hope this is useful to some of you.
The devs took an initial 460,000 coins in block 1, hash 00000b7ff05d5ef83c0b524732ab2c01b0505d3381d7505169d90f061fd47866
Without going through all the steps (there are A LOT) one can trace where all these coins ended up:
1NGRJ9CZuTPK378GZewfh8Wq67ywXvYENc 5987 ITZ <-- this is the origin address
1N71ngtZgqguZs7WQC4iaLE8St24P6XDBJ 5000 ITZ
1BDXdJnqHhsg6D61Mf14GQRgzaWoCtwGt1 5000 ITZ (master node)
1EBptjRx5ZdjEWqRyhwLDuBZJAbQD3RWqY 5000 ITZ (master node)
1McpZcZVGXp3UXmxEZmg4gLGKXQEGuszd9 10000 ITZ
1MmpABMJuZ8bmHcUNDXFjdASLj78E89Sq7 5000 ITZ (master node)
1JPmrcFwCBLgKYZan4qk7xQpGFdSEd9asG 5000 ITZ
1K5m9kRykSWb2dP2pNH7pvYk7yRcFcp75U 5000 ITZ (master node)
13GycAnP3R3HpKnfRCU94F8uAGdG5vvWjP 5000 ITZ
1JtYWbFLiKHBqCdqSszsbcyAs6zyc3y5Sa 2500 ITZ
1BjXgYBVnxQLVFY3DwzKphPx8FEmU112iJ 2500 ITZ
14P1q9MZWTpcXbK9DBobJj2i2PW68RXGhy 50000 ITZ (master node)
1FLjssRnmAZoPCGfHCEM46xCwhaMfjxAmt 45000 ITZ
1DuGPcoG5hY2aehqoLTLEcWGUGBSTMNDRY 10000 ITZ (master node)
18tJdsqfDcQs6UvC9aCHjkFZmydSyB2VqN 10000 ITZ
1Mg1yk53m8B9bxWgVPa6ZsbgrsCtuE3jH5 15000 ITZ
17wW1nLpH7iy5BJU7LfWCEViW25ypsM7Su 5000 ITZ (master node) <-- this passed through this wallet 15X5Je5FwRtrZDce13FWWkZR7MPGA8j4S4
1FELhMwj5MYbaLZEvBgzQUoj2fBEJvTA2c 5000 ITZ (master node)
1C5pM2ReWGef1shRo2ZUUKkZ8vwPd6rbFx 5000 ITZ
1Mz3TwQpVzFjiJzq3H6gqP86Jc5Pd7sSXK 15000 ITZ
1A7cApSCpMLCoh92kAGg57fNR9esbmnYto 5000 ITZ (master node)
1EwqekUmnAXDxrTXctZ7sDn9wvLsgeCTxR 5000 ITZ (master node) <-- this passed through this wallet 1Ed74GXjt1T23FATJVwcitVpEXtWZi8Gs6
1LKDixK4seKfSyzv9Fqk6aShYj4YHwFp3x 5000 ITZ (master node) <-- this passed through this wallet 1J5THZXKTgZrt5msg6Hm8WLmTwJ35F4429
1NUMcRe9eNpfZJPienoR9pgwKKSZTgcQkr 5000 ITZ (master node) <-- this passed through this wallet 1J5THZXKTgZrt5msg6Hm8WLmTwJ35F4429
1KRXB1JbHfRBw5yNUU4iEG1ZQvQSjVyp3t 5000 ITZ (master node) <-- this passed through this wallet 1J5THZXKTgZrt5msg6Hm8WLmTwJ35F4429
16pVEjMvd8PMUCP9GUT1jDbveDyTRparTp 10000 ITZ
18Regr2xPwoTWgxuJawrjEhWErBNCz9trQ 5325 ITZ (master node)
1Nzzcc1txUjxQzdabRmjtAfH7MStZabTBV 10023 ITZ
1281aRNmC8rVPGRoZzQ32JWYPmXbU7GwRf 50000 ITZ
1C4TSY6bVvreQCd1WX3JMZbe2C1exiuhDL 5000 ITZ (master node)
175s4DZbvc1nsuqaTKc8y6z4HsaaN1DDTU 5403 ITZ (master node)
18DFiNezG8GUYGQk5uUjPwbcgpjhq6Gp8k 5001 ITZ
1Gofa4dQGerjkBTJTwBkDJ5noPhonu5yBN 15001 ITZ
1yfMCNUbzpiNRZb6duagQeKkhkEVniLXD 5000 ITZ (master node)
1kDXZWYZv8sieE9wGVyP9qJAM8uzFV5kU 5000 ITZ
1PcunoCZRN9PVjpgqdXuvrh5K7vSZys1H4 5000 ITZ (master node)
13VTRsvg6f83vf7qh2nYVFVVebxFG177mr 5000 ITZ (master node)
1BA8g8wFjo7RnAY3FBmsQNt7zYFSgkbD6L 5000 ITZ
1MnJwMB1z9AgxaZnvfEeBnkedADxAhBDw5 5000 ITZ
19mEcVtD4Q3Qn4qB2GFqNdscyqp3Q1vfsw 15020 ITZ
176LZXnKTFwRUa4gm38rvjNh7vYX99E2x 5000 ITZ
1CvUpAzJFpm25VD6JTfBzvwRVdvs9DrY7h 5001 ITZ
15qwxUSMauUFtinH8q3zRKEHeNBpGBXW7N 1275 ITZ
195mNMBrfh9eXVZrjPUV1qB5eZU6VGmd6X 5000 ITZ (master node)
1P9eZ8Bit3D8544k4TaThhfmeuL5Bo3pxj 13999 ITZ
1C5LRxEvN4WzCU1AwKKEUa8XmYeJPJAsXF 5000 ITZ (master node)
1JAgmsnX3GEegiPNMvfMFwWUuQqaVQYo3J 10000 ITZ
1S5p82dpgtW4S5Ldue3HAzpMgDwbcp6Yk 10001 ITZ
1LTFQUZg6PpVVfSXZbGQfvfgrSER3zDf3Z 5001 ITZ
18tnsPcKFY4TSbXQkrKv1ad6CSv1FAyium 5000 ITZ (master node)
1GegLBYDzZ7yUWsCQLFAvjtAppCTHCgiAS 5000 ITZ (master node)
1n1yE4bZbhssJQHEy16vP61ndhzGhTLBb 50000 ITZ
So please don't just watch the top 2 wallets for movement, not even the top 10... watch at least the wallets I've listed above. Now granted some of these destination wallets may belong to normal users (i.e. dev paid for services or donated amounts to community members) so I'm not saying every single one of these wallets may belong to the dev.
I just think if you want to watch the 460,000 pre-mined coins for movement then at least actually watch them!!
These numbers are a bit out of date but still valid you can continue following the wallets. The same people are still holding most of the coins just in smaller wallets now. |
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sikkan
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September 25, 2017, 01:03:42 PM |
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only 4 K blocks to go! about 4 days until MNs get some rewards  Interesting times! |
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September 25, 2017, 01:53:15 PM |
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Kraggle.ml explorer removed due to inconsistent information. Left message for kraggle.ml owner, will repost if its fixed.
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September 25, 2017, 02:56:02 PM |
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New Block Explorers are up: http://interzone.space:8080 New but should be working now including rich lists and searchable transactions. I think the link in that post is a bit buggered it just opens a blank window when clicked - after quoting this it seems that it could be fixed by adding in the url inside the I guess bitcointalk doesn't like the .space url lol |
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September 25, 2017, 05:48:43 PM |
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New blockexplorer looks great.
Waiting for 20k block...
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September 25, 2017, 11:39:45 PM |
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Well! 20 000 block is come very soon! I Need to buy little ITZcoins for MN start!  |
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sikkan
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September 26, 2017, 05:06:38 AM
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This coin needs Coinmarketcap ASAP! It has the volume for it!
edit* I just made an application for CMC!
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September 26, 2017, 05:39:28 AM |
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Dev please add umine.org pool on third party pools list
With 35-39 GH/s it is still biggest ITZ pool but not listed
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September 26, 2017, 06:26:14 AM |
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Dev please add umine.org pool on third party pools list
With 35-39 GH/s it is still biggest ITZ pool but not listed
Today, the problems at this pool. DDoS attack I guess. |
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September 26, 2017, 06:38:19 AM |
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We need some hash on altminer.net  |
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maxuscz
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September 26, 2017, 08:15:45 AM |
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We need some hash on altminer.net Sounds ambiguous It is umine ddos explain of just advertising agane? |
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September 26, 2017, 08:19:00 AM |
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We need some hash on altminer.net Sounds ambiguous It is umine ddos explain of just advertising agane? Just advertise again. We're seeing a lot of ddos against yiimp pools; we have taken measures to prevent those attacks. |
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September 26, 2017, 08:24:32 AM |
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We need some hash on altminer.net Sounds ambiguous It is umine ddos explain of just advertising agane? Just advertise again. We're seeing a lot of ddos against yiimp pools; we have taken measures to prevent those attacks. damn hackers... looked like nasty war... before hackers try war with systems - now they just the thieves |
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September 26, 2017, 12:06:26 PM |
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We need some hash on altminer.net Sounds ambiguous It is umine ddos explain of just advertising agane? Just advertise again. We're seeing a lot of ddos against yiimp pools; we have taken measures to prevent those attacks. damn hackers... looked like nasty war... before hackers try war with systems - now they just the thieves Are you part of umine.org team? Because sounds like you do have some connection. |
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