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September 08, 2017, 02:14:13 PM
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i found this news: http://finance.jrj.com.cn/tech/2017/09/08211823086220.shtml

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September 5, the central bank Securities Commission, including seven departments jointly issued a document, halted the first tokens issue (ICO), was public opinion as "China's strongest ICO supervision." However, things are far from over ...
A larger regulatory storm approaching: close to regulators on the 8th to the China Securities Journal (ID: xhszzb) reporter said that the bit currency trading platform has become illegal economic activities, money laundering and bankers manipulate the price of loser retail channel, should be banned as soon as possible The
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Close to regulators said:
➤ Bitcoin trading platform has become illegal economic activities Money laundering and bankers manipulate the price of looting of retail channels, should be banned as soon as possible.
➤ In addition to the illegal economy and extortion, the basic application of Bitcoin is not currently seen.
➤ Money laundering with Bitcoin can bypass the regulation of the transfer of funds, especially in China, there are still capital controls in the case of such acts should be introduced as soon as possible regulatory measures.
➤ bets a bit currency trading platform, not a ban on Bitcoin. The banned platform is a channel to cancel a large amount of currency and currency exchange.
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Talk about ICO first.
ICO (Initial Coin Offerings abbreviation), the first tokens issue, from the stock market, the concept of initial public offering (IPO). Investors can be simply understood as: IPO to raise funds is the yuan, ICO raised is the bit currency; IPO is the stock, ICO issued a variety of tokens; IPO to raise funds for a variety of production and business activities, ICO to raise " Funds "for the development of various types of block chain projects.
But ICO and IPO difference between the huge!
We know that corporate IPO is regulated by the SFC, under strict market rules and strong supervision, the Commission can still find a lot of corporate fraud, some companies can be suspended IPO process, successful IPO after the listing of enterprises Continue to be regulated, investors are also based on rights.
But before the 7 departments issued a document, ICO is in a non-regulatory state. In other words, ICO issue of the project, investors basically no way to confirm. A financing project that is not regulated by any department, the existence of the project first need to be questioned; the same time, investors profit mode is the secondary market transactions into the "token", you can imagine how much risk.
Professor Deng Jianpeng, a professor at the Central University for Nationalities, found that "up to 90% of ICO projects are currently suspected of fraud."
Investors have realized that the project is nothing but a Ponzi scheme, but also feel lucky, that he is not the last one to pick up the last person.
Bitcoin: front high energy warning!
Interestingly, in the ICO halted three days later, bitco strong rebound has been basically recovered. But with regard to Bitcoin, investors need to note that national regulatory measures are not the same.
At present, China's regulators most concerned about is that Bitcoin has become illegal means of money laundering. At the same time, Bitcoin is also the main means of payment for the underground economy.
Bitcoin in the absence of supervision of the secondary market transactions, the dealer manipulate the price, the price fluctuations are too large, but also easy to allow retail investors suffer losses.

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September 08, 2017, 02:17:16 PM
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I hope they will not try to Ban all crypto coins in China.
And they wont do that cause its a really good income for China.
Please think about Asic Manufucators and big farms in China. Then You will see there is no way to Ban
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September 08, 2017, 02:29:03 PM
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I hope they will not try to Ban all crypto coins in China.

i hope they DO BAN all crypto in China including bitcoin. it will be once and for all and we will get rid of them for good!

i am honestly sick and tired of hearing about news coming from China that always spikes FUD and causes bitcoin price to swing around wildly. if there was reality to these swings i wouldn't have been as mad.

some bullshit rises from China and panic sellers start giving away their bitcoin to whales instead of taking the cheap coins from whales. and we have all seen where each of these panic sells end up...

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September 08, 2017, 02:33:23 PM
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Most of Bitcoin miners are running in China, if China bans bitcoin then I expect its price drop to $2k or less.
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September 08, 2017, 02:34:55 PM
Last edit: September 09, 2017, 12:05:41 PM by qiman
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If they do ban bitcoin and all crypto related activities in China, it will be like shooting themselves in the foot. I am Chinese but I am all for open markets and innovation. If China wants to be a leader in innovative technology then ruling out the Blockchain will be short of being fool hardy. I may not live in China anymore but I care about what is happening in my home country and while it is good to regulate the Industry against thieves and scammers, making such a blanket ban does not bode well for China. The rest of the World will move on without the Chinese to this effect.


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September 08, 2017, 03:07:57 PM
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Conversions from Mandarin/Cantonese to English is not a direct science, but this article seems to be talking about the Chinese crackdown on ICOs specifically, not an overall banning of cryptocurrency. While bitcoin is mentioned as it relates to fraud and illegal activity, it always seems to circle back to ICOs.

This seems more like a "We are aware that illegal activity occurs as it relates to cryptocurrency -- the biggest offender is ICOs because they are 90% fraudulent and target the consumer directly."

As far as government regulation goes (which is generally bad in the crypto world) for something like this -- I would say a crackdown on fraudulent ICOs is a logical response.

Don't worry about Bitcoin being banned in China. China is the largest consumer of cryptocurrency and has the widest adoption of it. It's never going to happen -- too many people in China stand to take a major loss if it does.

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September 08, 2017, 06:10:25 PM
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For the love of god, yes please panic and sell everything like morons. Other people will love to buy it, such as myself, and make fortunes whenever idiots start panicking.
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September 08, 2017, 06:12:07 PM
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Facebook is illegal in China too, going well for now.
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September 08, 2017, 06:16:13 PM
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who cares, get rid of this pest of a country once and for all.... tired of them trying to spoil the party.

let's withdraw our orders for flip flops and go with countries that accept btc until they are at breaking point.

Although good they are cracking down on ico scams. Ban all that fancy terms for insider instamining and bring back a real distributional model like POW.




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September 08, 2017, 06:18:00 PM
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Don't worry, once decentralized exchanges like Kyber get going this is all going to be a worry of the past Wink
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September 08, 2017, 06:24:48 PM
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Friday, bloody Friday!

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September 08, 2017, 06:26:31 PM
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these fukking china/chinese rumors need to stop as it is not funny anymore, it is irritating, annoying and these fukkers sound dumb. these guys and even their government sound like little kids wanting candy then ban it the next day. no one can ban crypto, simple as that. there will always be ways around it even torrent, just like torrent.

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September 08, 2017, 06:31:48 PM
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Bloody monday, bloody friday... And everywhere is China. It looks like soon market cap will be going down if there is any news with word China. Truly speaking this news could produce huge income for people, who produce them, i.e. China officials. They need just make short position before the news and GDP of China would grow instantly for some percents in few hours)))
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September 08, 2017, 07:54:41 PM
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Will that make BTC price fall?
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September 08, 2017, 08:08:48 PM
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China and the West are the biggest money launderers in the world.

The Chinese people have been laundering money out to buy real estate in the West for decades.

Several years ago, China's central bank asked Western governments to help stop this.  Instead of helping, Western governments such as Canada and Australia, aided and abetted the money laundering, by offering visas to any Chinese who brings over $X.

Banning cryptos is probably another attempt by the Chinese government to stop this money laundering.

When Western governments tell you that they want to regulate cryptos with AML, they probably want to stop outflow only, not inflow of money.

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September 08, 2017, 08:32:44 PM
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Utter BS.

China has taken a stance, as did the US, that ICO coins are simply unregulated and illegal sales of securities.

Bitcoin was not launched and sold by a for-profit centralized corporation selling a product/security; Nor was litecoin for that matter; they were simply invented and put into the wild for anyone to mine. A world apart from being created and sold by a for-profit corporation as an interest or share in a centralized company for the purposes of 'fund raising'.

On the other hand, coins like Ethereum & Neo are certainly going to have a problem.

The US has also begun to regulate crypto exchanges, the Chinese are following suit along the same lines; This should simply make decentralized exchanges more popular.

This is not a 'blanket ban', pure FUD.



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September 08, 2017, 08:36:40 PM
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FUD again, zzzz. Retards sell now, smart guys buy. Retards fomo back again in.
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September 08, 2017, 08:38:19 PM
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How can they ban crypto when China is the leading manufacturer of crypto? Or are they going to continue mining while banning the product that the mining generates? Doesnt sound believable.  Grin
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September 08, 2017, 08:39:29 PM
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I hope my buy orders will go off. Keep selling to the right hands. Lets make some big money. Goodnight.
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September 08, 2017, 09:03:23 PM
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I hope they will not try to Ban all crypto coins in China.

i hope they DO BAN all crypto in China including bitcoin. it will be once and for all and we will get rid of them for good!

i am honestly sick and tired of hearing about news coming from China that always spikes FUD and causes bitcoin price to swing around wildly. if there was reality to these swings i wouldn't have been as mad.

some bullshit rises from China and panic sellers start giving away their bitcoin to whales instead of taking the cheap coins from whales. and we have all seen where each of these panic sells end up...
I agree with you, every time chine do something it effects bitcoin price. It is just showing how bitcoin is centralized and i hope they will ban it because it won't be centralized in China any more!

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