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August 14, 2013, 06:08:10 AM
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Then you are REALLY scamming the investors but scamming the players just a little... There are no "real" bets, only your own bot placing "fake" bets on the website.

I have never run a bot on Just-Dice.  The bots are run by real players.

How would it be to my advantage to run a bot against the site?  If as you say there are no real bets, only bets made by my bot, I've lost over 4600 BTC to the site.  90% of that goes to the investors, and 10% of it goes back to me as commission.  I don't see why I would do that.  Are you supposing I've paid thousands of BTC to investors just to make it look like the site is busy?  Or are the investors all fake too?

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August 14, 2013, 06:11:31 AM
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Then you are REALLY scamming the investors but scamming the players just a little... There are no "real" bets, only your own bot placing "fake" bets on the website.

I have never run a bot on Just-Dice.  The bots are run by real players.

How would it be to my advantage to run a bot against the site?  If as you say there are no real bets, only bets made by my bot, I've lost over 4600 BTC to the site.  90% of that goes to the investors, and 10% of it goes back to me as commission.  I don't see why I would do that.  Are you supposing I've paid thousands of BTC to investors just to make it look like the site is busy?  Or are the investors all fake too?

tmbp doesn't know about the invest bots then Cheesy Cheesy
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August 14, 2013, 06:21:39 AM
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tmbp doesn't know about the invest bots then Cheesy Cheesy

Neither do I.

I saw a thread offering a bounty to create one, but didn't ever see it happen.

Are there invest/divest bots running now?

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August 14, 2013, 06:23:11 AM
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Then you are REALLY scamming the investors but scamming the players just a little... There are no "real" bets, only your own bot placing "fake" bets on the website.

As long as the actual payouts are provably fair, why on earth does it matter if people are placing bets manually or using bots?
A bot placing bet A doesn't affect the payout of a user placing bet B.

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August 14, 2013, 12:52:48 PM
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tmbp doesn't know about the invest bots then Cheesy Cheesy

Neither do I.

I saw a thread offering a bounty to create one, but didn't ever see it happen.

Are there invest/divest bots running now?

I think he was being sarcastic.

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August 14, 2013, 02:18:43 PM
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That would explain the April 2013 join date, and the post history consisting of nothing but eleven pages of scam accusations.

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August 14, 2013, 06:40:29 PM
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That would explain the April 2013 join date, and the post history consisting of nothing but eleven pages of scam accusations.

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August 15, 2013, 06:28:10 PM
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tmbp doesn't know about the invest bots then Cheesy Cheesy

Neither do I.

I saw a thread offering a bounty to create one, but didn't ever see it happen.

Are there invest/divest bots running now?

I think he was being sarcastic.

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August 18, 2013, 01:25:15 PM
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tmbp doesn't know about the invest bots then Cheesy Cheesy

Neither do I.

I saw a thread offering a bounty to create one, but didn't ever see it happen.

Are there invest/divest bots running now?

Yes, the guy who made the bounty for an invest bot got a really basic one made that same day. I think its only feature is that is divests when the investment changes by over 10%.

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August 26, 2013, 11:01:24 PM
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Update: If it isn't obvious that all the bets are submitted by bots at this point I don't know when it will be, dooglus has blantly refused to provide any evidence out of concerns of "privacy", thank you for an additional layer of privacy over the Bitcoin protocol you scammer.

Evidence of what? That there are not bots betting? Why does that even matter? How can you call dooglus a scammer if you have not a shred of evidence that he has scammed anyone? Because JD does not spam the blockchain it's automatically a likely scam?

Seriously, your logic skills are sorely lacking.
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September 08, 2013, 04:28:14 AM
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Ohhhh a scamhunter... how exciting^^

well you might wanna take a look at bitcoinsexchange.com, the scripts over there exchange seem to forget to pay...

I btw don't like you language Mr. Scamhunter sounds like your living in a Pub... but well... up to you anyway how you talk, but it doesn't give you much credibility somehow... atleast not with people living outside of pubs...


However running an anti scam threat holds some benefit for the community and that shall be appreciated... thanks a lot for your efforts.

So please be so kind and check the site bitcoinsexchange.com and verify if it is a real scam or not.


Good Luck to all!
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September 08, 2013, 08:14:02 AM
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Ohhhh a scamhunter... how exciting^^

well you might wanna take a look at bitcoinsexchange.com, the scripts over there exchange seem to forget to pay...

I btw don't like you language Mr. Scamhunter sounds like your living in a Pub... but well... up to you anyway how you talk, but it doesn't give you much credibility somehow... atleast not with people living outside of pubs...


However running an anti scam threat holds some benefit for the community and that shall be appreciated... thanks a lot for your efforts.

So please be so kind and check the site bitcoinsexchange.com and verify if it is a real scam or not.


Good Luck to all!
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How are my mannerisms of speech similar to a person who has been living in a pub?
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I saw a few "f*** you too" while going through this topic... don't know the background of those though... but the impression wasn't toooooo professional... guess it's a matter of taste and certainly had a few situations myself biting my tongue for good...

Quite eager to find out if I'm mistake with the impression I got or not Wink

Well Good  Luck!


EDIT: had another very brief look through, can't be so bad if I can't find it again in a few minutes... withdrawing my claim of bad language therefore until I stumble over it again and apologize for my unproven claims Cheesy

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September 08, 2013, 09:57:33 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0 <- should be on any lsit of ongoing scams
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February 19, 2014, 09:05:53 PM
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Here I will present the current list of ongoing scams in order to protect the community, it has been stripped of all non essentials to keep the community safe from scams, I will hold all Bitcoin businesses for full responsibility:

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Red http://s22.postimg.org/t6t8atht9/Untitled_1.gif - Most likely a scam.
Orange - Moderate chance of being a scam.
Yellow - Small chance of being a scam.
Blue - Was initially listed as scam, was whitelisted after review.

Quote from: Definition of SCAM
: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation <an insurance scam>

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First Known Use: 1963

SatoshiMines - Source of entropy is bad, the house can easily bruteforce the hash to make you win/lose. Including "random" non-preselected strings in the hash render the whole process insecure.

I will occasionally dig up all the trash on casinos/services and post it here publicly.

EDIT: New websites are popping up everyday, the general rule of thumb is stay clear of any non-vet website and apply common sense.

Hi,

I'm pretty much interrested in satoshimines, and have some thoughts:

- The addition of a "random" string at the end of the mine positions seems necessary, otherwise you'd just need to hash the few millions possible result combination (that's not that much), considering there's no timing in the game, you'd be able to search for the corresponding hash in a rainbow table, and use it to win.

Having played quite a lot this game, I also have the feeling it might be rigged, but I don't see how. The only thing I can think of, if that it bases the position of the next mines on your previous moves, rather than a true random game. But that would mean the game is still "fair" in a certain way.

A shame the creator/maintainer of the website never bothered answering the accusation made here :-)

Any other thoughts?
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Legend:
Red http://s22.postimg.org/t6t8atht9/Untitled_1.gif - Most likely a scam.
Orange - Moderate chance of being a scam.
Yellow - Small chance of being a scam.
Blue - Was initially listed as scam, was whitelisted after review.


SatoshiMines - Source of entropy is bad, the house can easily bruteforce the hash to make you win/lose. Including "random" non-preselected strings in the hash render the whole process insecure.


Just show me only one sha256 or one sha1 collision...


- The addition of a "random" string at the end of the mine positions seems necessary, otherwise you'd just need to hash the few millions possible result combination (that's not that much), considering there's no timing in the game, you'd be able to search for the corresponding hash in a rainbow table, and use it to win.

true


Having played quite a lot this game, I also have the feeling it might be rigged, but I don't see how. The only thing I can think of, if that it bases the position of the next mines on your previous moves, rather than a true random game. But that would mean the game is still "fair" in a certain way.

I'm sure they do to get better odds for themself. I read somewhere in this forum about a guessing javascript that exists on satoshimines but the real code for the guess will for sure be on the server side. But looking at how one played in the past isn't scaming for me. Not even cheating. It's like Poker bots, or even trading bots, if you know how they work you can get everything out of them.

Satoshimines isn't a scam for me but please exactly calculate the odds before you play. If you do play with real BTC afterward you didn't calculate them correctly.

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March 03, 2014, 05:55:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure nmc-wallet.com is a scam, I've posted a thread here as a warning and hoping for some feedback: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497899.0

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June 12, 2014, 02:05:13 AM
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Very funny to go through this list so long after it has been posted and seeing all those websites that are no longer up because they were scams.
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June 13, 2014, 09:58:47 AM
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Yep, nice to nmc-wallet.com is no longer around.

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