Anonymous VISA debit cards with own IBAN bank account

[bernard75]

Thank you for the vote of confidence, chufchuf.

[matto]

Hi friend  you are from germany,
can you write to
designtrend@hotmail.de

[bernard75]

Hi friend  you are from germany,
can you write to
designtrend@hotmail.de

Disregard all the emails you got.
Use the PM function if you dont want to be scammed.

[JodS11]

Please, can anyone tell me for good how long these Bzwbk cards are working?
I have failed business and lost some cash in case of trouble with authorisation blockade by Mbanko.

I tried that Bz too, about 1 year ago, I recieved total legaly SEPA transactions to cards and they were blocked all by maximum 5 days.

Does any can share that expierience with Bzwbk by now? Is it good and legit again charge money to them?

[bernard75]

I doubt you will get an answer, afterall this is supposed to be anonymous.
And if you want to talk about mBank, please go here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065

[sionsandman]

Please, can anyone tell me for good how long these Bzwbk cards are working?
I have failed business and lost some cash in case of trouble with authorisation blockade by Mbanko.

I tried that Bz too, about 1 year ago, I recieved total legaly SEPA transactions to cards and they were blocked all by maximum 5 days.

Does any can share that expierience with Bzwbk by now? Is it good and legit again charge money to them?

I'm using a BZ card without any problem so far.

[DongSwanson]

I have been using BZWBK visas for almost a year with no problems at all. Unfortunately they stopped working around the 15h of October. ATM withdrawals result in "The requested function is temporarily not available." and POS payments get declined, as well as online purchases. I did nothing special with the cards. They were loaded via SEPA from kraken.com (Bitcoin Exchange) and I never exceeded any limit.

I checked the BZWBK website again and I found out they changed their regulations on July 28th 2014 and it says now:

§13 - The Holder agrees not to use the cards for associated with virtual currency (like Bitcoin) and the failure to its people, which he knows or with due diligence should have known, that they use credit cards or will be used for currency trading virtual. Cards that will be used for purposes related to trade currency Virtual Bank will be blocked.

Source: http://static3.bzwbk.pl/asset/R/D/L/RDL017_NFE_49586.pdf

So I am guessing my card(s) are blocked now and I don't really know what to do and I am assuming the money is gone. I just wanted to share my experience and maybe somebody has a tip, what I can do.

To clarify: I did not buy the cards from bernard75 but from somebody private.

[bernard75]

Those conditions dont apply to my cards.
Might i ask where you got it from?

Edit: Found it, this applies to cards bought on Ebay.
I guess people overdone it there.

[DongSwanson]

This contract doesnt apply to my cards.
Might i ask where you got it from?

From this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563991.msg6176053
The user confirmed it was me, who bought the cards.

What is confusing to me: when I log in to the online panel it says that my cards are active and not blocked ("00-karta aktyva").

[bernard75]

I hope you understand that i cant offer support for buyers from other sellers.
Please contact your seller if you experience problems.

[SmithTrader]

Hi bernard75,
are your cards also from BZWBK?
--
John

[bernard75]

Yes, they are.

[mbankeatsdook]

I have been using BZWBK visas for almost a year with no problems at all. Unfortunately they stopped working around the 15h of October. ATM withdrawals result in "The requested function is temporarily not available." and POS payments get declined, as well as online purchases. I did nothing special with the cards. They were loaded via SEPA from kraken.com (Bitcoin Exchange) and I never exceeded any limit.

I checked the BZWBK website again and I found out they changed their regulations on July 28th 2014 and it says now:

§13 - The Holder agrees not to use the cards for associated with virtual currency (like Bitcoin) and the failure to its people, which he knows or with due diligence should have known, that they use credit cards or will be used for currency trading virtual. Cards that will be used for purposes related to trade currency Virtual Bank will be blocked.

Source: http://static3.bzwbk.pl/asset/R/D/L/RDL017_NFE_49586.pdf

So I am guessing my card(s) are blocked now and I don't really know what to do and I am assuming the money is gone. I just wanted to share my experience and maybe somebody has a tip, what I can do.

To clarify: I did not buy the cards from bernard75 but from somebody private.

Could I just make a suggestion? It might be in the communities best interest to save the mentioning of specific exchange names on these threads to PM's and just using the term "bitcoin exchange" instead. Maybe thats not necessary, maybe I am being paranoid. It just seems like using names could potentially mess up a good thing. Again, maybe I am way off base.

[cervoz100]

I just received two cards. Haven't had time to try them yet.

[omegaflare]

How can I deposit money with this card? Can I deposit Bitcoin instead? Or only fiat?

Thanks!

[bernard75]

You can exchange your Bitcoin and then send FIAT.

Why do you know USD and GBP cards will be available friday?

Where did you read that?
I always have EUR cards and never GBP or USD.

[donotcopythatfloppy]

I would like to suggest everyone who receives BZWBK cards to read carefully through the terms and conditions (packaged with the card) and look for mentions of 'Bitcoin'. Mine WBK prepaid cards explicitly forbid such operations (too bad I've read the ToC only afterwards with a Polish dictionary). I've got three cards from BZ WBK (different designs, 2 VISA, 1 MC, chip & pin and magnetic ones) blocked immediately after SEPA withdrawal from a specific eight-letter exchange.

All three cards have status "00 - Karta aktywna" but every transaction is declined, I can not even change PIN on the banks website.

I did not buy from bernard75 yet, so I would like to ask him to provide a scanned copy of ToC shipped with his cards (and maybe PM/publish a sample face of a card).

Edit: Okay, so I find the reason of blockage and I would like to kindly ask bernard75 to include the information into the head post.

It is paragraph 12 of card rules:

12. Nabywca zobowiązuje się do nieprzekazywania Karty do następujących krajów
a Posiadacz zobowiązuje się do nieuŜywania Karty w tych krajach: Libia, Somalia,
Chiny, Wietnam, Pakistan, Afganistan, AzerbejdŜan, Kazachstan, Peru, Panama,
Argentyna, Boliwia, Kolumbia, Turcja, Serbia, Kosowo, Ukraina, Mołdawia, Bośnia
i Hercegowina, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Iran, Sudan, Korea Północna, Birma,
Kuba, Syria.

Don't use the card in one of those countries. Period. It will be blocked and unusable! If you make a transaction with an IP in one of those countries it will be, once again, blocked.

[bernard75]

I just checked the ToS of the November batch and point 13 is in fact about Bitcoins specifically.
I was neither informed by the bank nor was my contract, that doesnt include the passage, changed.
Although my cards work without problems and i havent had any complaints, i suggest nobody loads them with BTC and gets their money out asap.
The sale of cards is on hold until i get a straight answer from the bank what is going on.

[markusyeti]

I just checked the ToS of the November batch and point 13 is in fact about Bitcoins specifically.
I was neither informed by the bank nor was my contract, that doesnt include the passage, changed.
Although my cards work without problems and i havent had any complaints, i suggest nobody loads them with BTC and gets their money out asap.
The sale of cards is on hold until i get a straight answer from the bank what is going on.

Hey!

Any update on the cards? I have a bunch(nog bought from you) that got frozen from a few weeks ago and now none of them works, damn tragic.

Will gladely buy from you when/if they sort this problem out. Running out of ammo

[sudexx]

Any update on the cards? I have a bunch(nog bought from you) that got frozen from a few weeks ago and now none of them works, damn tragic.

Will gladely buy from you when/if they sort this problem out. Running out of ammo

BZ cards still working for me.

No btc related activity though...