Anonymous VISA debit cards with own IBAN bank account

[bernard75]

I will post updates here when i get hold of the chief of card management.
Unfortunately this is a bank and they dont work on weekends

But what is clear through confirmation by customers infos is that stamp and btc-e are a nogo.

[ThinkAgain]

So what are the other options besides BTC as to how to load the cards? I pm'ed you as well.

Cheers

[bernard75]

I will provide unextended support by PM to people that bought from me.
For all others please contact your seller.

[SmithTrader]

So what are the other options besides BTC as to how to load the cards? I pm'ed you as well.

You could try localbitcoins. There you trade with real people, so the accounts are not bound to any BTC exchange.

[mbankeatsdook]

ok so no btce or stamp. Anyone else have exchanges that for sure don't work?

[DongSwanson]

ok so no btce or stamp. Anyone else have exchanges that for sure don't work?

Kraken.
I have 2 cards blocked which had SEPA deposits solely from Kraken (Payward Inc).

[sanos51ck]

So what are the other options besides BTC as to how to load the cards? I pm'ed you as well.

You could try localbitcoins. There you trade with real people, so the accounts are not bound to any BTC exchange.

Localbitcoins is a good option.

You can also use reputable sellers in this forum.

[enroberte]

Hi, Bernard. I've purchased 1 BZ WBK anonymous visa card from you one year ago. The card has worked without a problem till mid of september 2014, and now it's freezed. I can't withdraw or check balance on ATM. I can check balance of the card over website and there is no blocked status. I've never used the card with BTC nor paypal. Could you help me please?   

[bernard75]

I have been trying to get hold of management for the whole day yesterday.
Today im driving to Poland to sort things out.

[enroberte]

I did on-line registration process according to guidance received from Bernard, which included fake ID generator. I did it, because of PIN changing. If this is the problem, then I should be warned from Bernard that this is not safe to do.

[bitcats]

I did on-line registration process according to guidance received from Bernard, which included fake ID generator. I did it, because of PIN changing. If this is the problem, then I should be warned from Bernard that this is not safe to do.

Edit:
 You should have used your own brain: card registered w fake polish ID/address + always login with foreign IPs to check the balance
 + cashing out on foreign ATMs, etc... = card block!

[enroberte]

Oh yeah and using the card always outside of the Poland is not suspicious, right? C'mon if registration and on-line checking of balance is a problem, why the card didn't get blocked right after the registation process?

[enroberte]

Nice kitty

[DongSwanson]

Well, you should have used your own brain: card registered w fake polish ID/address, login with foreign IPs to check the balance, cashing out on foreign ATMs, etc...  

Since it is perfectly legal to give the cards to other people, for example as a present or gift, cashing out at foreign ATMs is not really a violation of any TOS and the bank specifically advertises to use the cards for example on vacation in other countries.
And people use VPN or proxy services. So login in via non-polish IP address shouldn't be an issue either. The only thing questionable is using a fake polish address AND of course having SEPA transfers from the known BTC exchanges.

[sionsandman]

I've never used the card with BTC nor paypal. Could you help me please?   

This is new to me and certainly worrisome.

What else have you done with the card?

[bernard75]

Sadly due to unauthorized sellers and the massive abuse of the cards the bank has added the following points to the ToS in July:
12. The owner of the cards cant use them in the following countries: Libya, Somalia, China, Vietnam, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Peru, Panama, Argentina, Bolivia, Columbia, Turkey, Serbia, Kosovo, Ukraine, Moldavia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Iran, Sudan, North Korea, Burma, Cuba and Syria.
13. The owner of the cards cant use the cards in connection with virtual currency(like Bitcoin). The bank will block cards used in connection with virtual currency.

That being said, i once again urge everybody not to load the cards from exchanges and cash out their remaining balance asap!

[enroberte]

I've never used the card with BTC nor paypal. Could you help me please?   

This is new to me and certainly worrisome.

What else have you done with the card?

I'm a resident of EU and my country is a member of eurozone. I've loaded my card only via 3rd party sepa transfers from payers which are also residents of my county, and are not involved in BTC. So points 12 and 13 of bernard's ToS don't concern me. My card usage stats are 85% ATM and 15% POS all made in my country. Go figure.

[bernard75]

One explanation is that at least one of the "3rd party sepa transfers" was of criminal origin/intent.
And btw these are not my ToS, but the banks.

[bitcats]

The other explanation is:

Card registered w fake polish ID/address + always log in with foreign IPs to check the balance
 + cashing out on foreign ATMs only, etc... = card block!

[mbankeatsdook]

So does this mean LBC is safe or not?