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January 05, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
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well, you gotta hand it to the bitcoin gold creators, it still actually works and you can send and receive real transactions. that puts it leagues ahead of most of these forks which are getting more derisory by the day.

Bitcoin Diamond, Bitcoin Uranium and alike? They are jokes, not forks.

i feel that there are more to come
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January 05, 2018, 01:55:16 PM
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i feel that there are more to come

Yes, B2X i.e. . Yet it still has to successfully mine.
Anyway, point is that NONE of BTC forks (maybe BCH differs) has clear consensus rules. None is above any suspect of being a "private" coin.
So let them come.
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January 05, 2018, 02:05:40 PM
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i feel that there are more to come

Yes, B2X i.e. . Yet it still has to successfully mine.
Anyway, point is that NONE of BTC forks (maybe BCH differs) has clear consensus rules. None is above any suspect of being a "private" coin.
So let them come.
Right. BCH is a rare case so soon other 'fork coin' come under that ideal.
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January 05, 2018, 02:23:33 PM
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Yes, B2X i.e. . Yet it still has to successfully mine.
Anyway, point is that NONE of BTC forks (maybe BCH differs) has clear consensus rules. None is above any suspect of being a "private" coin.
So let them come.
Right. BCH is a rare case so soon other 'fork coin' come under that ideal.

You nailed the point: if they want SEGWIT, bigger block size (which is detrimental for miners, BTW) and Replay Protection at the ready, they are targeting the wrong blockchain. They should target BCH.
B2X, must be said, will use X11, which is an ASIC mineable algo and now it's 2nd generation of these. So I'm not convinced about it.

But, back to the route, to BTG that is.
Actually it is a mining only coin. What could be easily done to make it a HODL coin?
Simple, introduce a mixed POW/PoS environment modifying the total number of coins, which would make it an inflationary coin but the result -HODL- would be granted.
Everyone, even those with limited resources, would be able to get some stakes and HODL them.

How is it that BTG minds haven't thought about that yet? This opens the way to some thinking: the best mining seats were already taken by Nov the 12th.

EDIT: POW/PoS would also bring about a dramatic increment of the number of full BTG nodes.
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January 05, 2018, 02:32:23 PM
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well, you gotta hand it to the bitcoin gold creators, it still actually works and you can send and receive real transactions. that puts it leagues ahead of most of these forks which are getting more derisory by the day.

BTG is a bad fork coin. That's all. We don't need fork bitcoins. The bitcoin is enough for the all community and we need to beare of its core value. The rest will come and die or they will suffer hard during altcoin pump trend.
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January 05, 2018, 05:10:37 PM
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Our automated BTG extraction tool is now live:

https://dig.walleting.services/#/

Feedback thread so you know we aren't scammers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2434261.0;all

Currently this only works for (new version) Electrum Seeds, including 2FA, and BIP 39 phrases. We are going to expand to individual private keys and put buttons to fill in the derivation paths for common wallets.

Next we will upgrade the tool to extract BCD & SBTC, with other currencies being added as they become relevant. Eventually we will build the tool so you put in your seed and it will tell you all coins available for extraction.

We encourage anyone who uses the tool to post here after doing so. Trusting your seed to a website is not something that should be taken lightly, so we must have feedback to build confidence.

Any other ideas to make it more useful we are listening.

Wow, that's nice, right in time. Still hodl strong my btg. The year is just started... Smiley
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January 05, 2018, 05:50:08 PM
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Bought some Bitcoin Gold after fork(not correct - sold my own and bought low more BTG) - I decided that it can make something like bitcoin cash, but the last every-shit-pump-season it did almost NOTHING! Trading volume was the highest in the history of BTG, but price movement -  Lips sealed
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January 08, 2018, 12:34:18 AM
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So it looks like BTG crew is reading here and eventually gave due attention to my many posts underlining the need to implement proper signing, to avoid future scams marring the good name of BTG. Latest of these posts here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2171754.msg26996091#msg26996091
Better late than never Wink

With any evidence I'm referring to this post:
https://bitcoingold.org/bitcoin-gold-wallet-v0-15-0-2-release/
"Builds of signed binaries are now being created via the Gitian deterministic build process "

I do expect and wish BTG to take great advantage from that. Kudos to the dev team.
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January 08, 2018, 04:57:34 AM
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For people wondering what is happening to Bitcoin for the second day, it just happened on November 9-12. NYA infamous people pumping and dumping then moving their BTC to other coins.
At Coinbase (former member of NYA) there are no BTC available for purchasing, go figure  Grin Grin

Clever of them if what you're saying is true (and I understand correctly). Coinbase claimed they didn't have a BTC supply to sell?!!? I just checked and can't find any evidence that happened, and they are currently allowing sales of it. Is that what you meant; does Coinbase operate in such obviously manipulative way?
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January 08, 2018, 05:10:51 AM
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There is a new trend now of forking Bitcoin... Yes some of the forks have different things from the original but do you guys seriously believe they will ever be successful?
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January 08, 2018, 02:15:33 PM
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For people wondering what is happening to Bitcoin for the second day, it just happened on November 9-12. NYA infamous people pumping and dumping then moving their BTC to other coins.
At Coinbase (former member of NYA) there are no BTC available for purchasing, go figure  Grin Grin

Coinbase HAS BTC available.
Furthermore...
Things are a little different than on November. A lot of people are using BTC to buy altcoins, particularly ETH had benefits by going undeservedly high without any match in something real, having RSI(14) in eccess of 81% yesterday and >83% at my last editing time.
All the first 16 cryptos by market cap are loosing bar ETH NEO (China's ETH if my memory serves well) and ICON. Conclusion: many are cashing out BTC mainly for flat/ETH. Why?

1)https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-faces-bearish-move-as-prices-drop-towards-15k/
"Caixin Global reported last week that local regulators in China may not longer offer discounted electricity and tax deductions to mining companies. Further, a leaked document now suggests that China's top internet finance regulator is requesting that local governments push bitcoin-mining operations towards an "orderly exit" from the industry. "

2)South Korean banks/exchanges are under scrutiny: https://www.coindesk.com/south-korean-banks-face-scrutiny-crypto-exchange-ties/
Coinmarketcap site removed IMHO more than appropriately and in a timely manner the three big S. Korean exchanges Bithumb, Coinone and Korbit from its average calculations https://www.coindesk.com/the-crypto-market-just-dropped-on-one-data-adjustment/ as prices on those exchanges have consistently traded far above the rest of the market, such as the more than $5,000 spread spread compared to markets like Bitfinex and GDAX.


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January 08, 2018, 05:49:05 PM
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IT would be good to understand if "Bitcoin Gold" has anything to do with gold or if the word "gold" has just been attached to make it shine... Smiley
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January 08, 2018, 05:53:59 PM
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If you guys are look for a great place where to get free pump signals I think that this is what you are looking for: https://discord.gg/yNyQw8E
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January 09, 2018, 09:03:20 PM
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IT would be good to understand if "Bitcoin Gold" has anything to do with gold or if the word "gold" has just been attached to make it shine... Smiley
nothing physically to do with gold itself.
Yet by only being able to mine it with a GPU, it could be considered harder to come by hence the gold name.

On another note, who thinks China eliminating (making it very expensive to operate) the asic farms will be a boon to btcg or not affect it all?
I doubt any of those farms will find any place cheaper in the world to run their farms, even taking Iceland into consideration.

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January 09, 2018, 09:16:38 PM
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IT would be good to understand if "Bitcoin Gold" has anything to do with gold or if the word "gold" has just been attached to make it shine... Smiley
nothing physically to do with gold itself.
Yet by only being able to mine it with a GPU, it could be considered harder to come by hence the gold name.

On another note, who thinks China eliminating (making it very expensive to operate) the asic farms will be a boon to btcg or not affect it all?
I doubt any of those farms will find any place cheaper in the world to run their farms, even taking Iceland into consideration.

Sun is still for free 😎
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January 09, 2018, 09:39:07 PM
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IT would be good to understand if "Bitcoin Gold" has anything to do with gold or if the word "gold" has just been attached to make it shine... Smiley
nothing physically to do with gold itself.
Yet by only being able to mine it with a GPU, it could be considered harder to come by hence the gold name.

On another note, who thinks China eliminating (making it very expensive to operate) the asic farms will be a boon to btcg or not affect it all?
I doubt any of those farms will find any place cheaper in the world to run their farms, even taking Iceland into consideration.

Sun is still for free 😎
sun might be free but the taxes on that land isn't, business taxes are not. all of which will be going up in china on these farms.

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January 10, 2018, 12:59:36 AM
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sun might be free but the taxes on that land isn't, business taxes are not. all of which will be going up in china on these farms.

BCwinning, I'll have to give a wide-range kind of answer to you.

By now it is QUITE clear and QUITE annoying since a long time what these folks are trying to do.
We should have to jump in political remarks then.
I've already explained what it is happening since the BCH fork and eventually even South Korean authorities have had a "slightly delayed" understanding about it by now. They just needed to have some kind of backing from a certain western country before going further, just in case  Cool

That country which said it will be raise mining-related taxes has to be quite careful, though, as with N. Korea behaviour they've already their neck exposed to world scrutiny. Many foreign investments have been done in their country, and, with the very competitive Tax policy now active in USA many enterprises could say bye bye in a snap, as the next tax increase would be touching them.

BUT I find western countries (but not only western ones) to be guilty on par. Chasing profits in a country with no real democracy, only because it offers lower taxes and lower cost of workmanship (and very few rights for workers of course) is proving to be self-wounding. These countries had choosen the shortest path, not the best.
Lower costs of electricity for mining up to now it is just on the same trend.
The fundamental mistake was to trust someone simply not long-term trustable? No. It was not to think about an emergency plan, mining wise.
Deploying solar energy powered mining farms it is feasible, but takes time and undergoes taxes, as you said. But what if they were overbuilt and the power surplus being sold back to country's own energy purveyors? Accurate planning always brings about rewards, or in the worst chance cuts losses.

On the other side, deploying wallets enabled for PoS mining (even a mixed PoW/PoS) with a clever and fair "mining" distribution can be done pretty much faster, and gaining time in order to deploy solar energy powered PoW mining farms. How are you going to tax my wallet for my PoS mining, BTW?
Just a few posts ago I suggested that to BTG devs and commanders alike. getting back to the thread.
Accepting PoS as I alredy said implies an inflationary coin, whichever it is. But even a deflationary coin as BTC it is by definition get inflationary when forked even on a 1BTC=0.001NewCoin base. So where it the point?

Yet there is something else to put in the mix just to understand the current moment.
ETH is raising to ludicrously high levels and RSI beyond 85%. In 2-4 days Parabolic SAR will probably intercept price levels and there will be a down-trend. If S. Korean authorities will effectively act even before that date even sooner.
Now, is ETH so immune from culprits in its own ecosystem to deserve this sudden up-trend?
Answer: no
https://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-time-highs-overshadow-wave-technical-issues/
A lot of issues in the end!
Why is it raising that much? Because its prices can be altered with far less money than BTC in order to make same profits. Proof is that since 12/06/2017 ETH has more than tripled its value.
ETH and NEO that have so much in common and I guess NEO will soon follow the same trend.

Where is the place for BTG then? I wrote about the following many days ago, it was still December. I warned BTG crew about the necessity to get out of Bithumb dominance (Mate, please go back to my previous posts to find the very day I wrote that). Today this dominance is 49.21% . But Bithumb is #1 world exchange for ETH and so the best seat it is already taken, albeit BTG deserves a mention apart for defending honourably against outgunning enemy.


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January 10, 2018, 10:37:43 AM
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BTG to 2,000$ soon
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Bitcoin Gold is a bitcoin fork, like Bitcoin Cash. One notable change is that they changed the algorithm to Equihash, which makes it an asymmetric resistance and its algorithm with intensive memory.
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