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September 13, 2017, 12:35:18 PM
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I see the rise of decentralised exchanges/market places as the next natural step here.

You can't have an end to end trustless system with any points of centralisation(requires trust).

Which projects do we have here so far

blocknet
komodo

any other atomic trustless exchanges ?

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September 13, 2017, 01:12:16 PM
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I like Waves Dex for exchange. Its working like a charm.
Will never try komodo or blocknet will try as soon as possible

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September 13, 2017, 01:18:11 PM
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I like Waves Dex for exchange. Its working like a charm.
Will never try komodo or blocknet will try as soon as possible

I like waves and own some waves.

I am not sure it is trustless atomic trading though. I could be wrong but I would love to know if there is another atomic dex that is actually almost there.

I'm shocked they;ve taken this long to start coming out. Would have thought they would have been top of the list for crypto.

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September 13, 2017, 01:21:00 PM
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Waves DEX, this month or next month at the latest they release the new version (which look amazing BTW).
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September 13, 2017, 02:29:30 PM
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Waves DEX, this month or next month at the latest they release the new version (which look amazing BTW).

Is that going to be atomic trading? that would be a good move if it was.

More decentralised exchanges the better.

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September 13, 2017, 02:42:58 PM
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I think they will manage with getting access to exchanges, with VPN etc... Smiley

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the customs as chance as entering the scenes of work with the crypto currency field of business, that those ran as from a few years of earlier

which now to shifts as extending to the younger generation of partisan from prc country.

the indication as prc country has with the strict policy of the information exchange gives as audience have with the limited access.

as the older generation survived as entering with the customs of above as attaining field of the business, now the younger generation tries to follows

the use as older gens without to commit as first as keeping on focus as to work with the priors on preparedness to stands as expending fair on exchange

as targeting of focus with the decision of arrange.



that the ban policy helps to restrain as narrowing field of risks on not to failed as the view on preparing the better on regulation regarding the business

with the crypto currency  for partisan from prc.


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September 13, 2017, 07:35:22 PM
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yes. the decentralised exchanges will be the next big thing!!

not only for cryptos but also for stocks, goods etc...

good bye london stocks exchange, good bye dowjones .....

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September 13, 2017, 10:53:50 PM
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Nope.
Those are NOT decentralized exchanges.. they are coin schemes.
I helped expose for example the BLOCKNET *ICO* when it launched.
Google it.. there is shitloads of topics on it.

It's a coin scheme not an exchange.
And you have admitted to buying them which is why you posted this topic shilling the scam coin.  Roll Eyes

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September 13, 2017, 10:59:02 PM
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etherdelta

being developed:
Ethfinex by bitfinex
plasma by OMG


I do not know if the wavesdex is really decentralized cause the devs put a limit on some coins purchasing via btc.

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September 13, 2017, 11:51:39 PM
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Nope.
Those are NOT decentralized exchanges.. they are coin schemes.
I helped expose for example the BLOCKNET *ICO* when it launched.
Google it.. there is shitloads of topics on it.

It's a coin scheme not an exchange.
And you have admitted to buying them which is why you posted this topic shilling the scam coin.  Roll Eyes



Save your spurious claims and fantasies for those that pay any attention to your posts after you were proven to be shilling for a coin you claimed was a super scam previously.

I deal with FACTS and observable events only not your claims based upon your distorted version of real events.

1 - komodo and blocknet are decentralised atomic trustless exchanges. - prove they are not.

2 - prove to me now that either of those are scams. Your scam topics are flawed as was my reasoning when I suggested  blocknet could be a scam before. They are based upon the assumption that they had taken the ICO funds and vanished with nothing produced. This has escaped your attention since it is selective but it is now operational. The time take was far more than anyone expected and the fact they vanished from this board was very worrying to the point of myself losing faith and getting banned from their thread for suggesting it was a scam.  When I have asked other real developers here the work they have likely put into to getting to this stage it was said it would be quite considerable. Hence now I recant that scam suggestion based on observable events.

It is proven they have produced a DEX and that it is fully functional. Proven by many devs including charlie lee and sys coin dev and other very well known developers.

If i was shilling blocknet  I would not be directly asking for information on other real atomic dexs since they are their main competition. Only you would consider that a good method of shilling. It is likely to be the very worst way of shilling a specific coin/project.

To make that point relevant to you and easy to understand... imagine trying to shill dash so you make a topic that is asking for discussion on all anonymous coins xmr, zcash, zcoin cloak, bbr, nav, etc etc.... you get it you not doing a great job of shilling/pumping a specific project by discussing the other available options.

I am holding both blocknet and komodo although not in the quantities I once did because I sold thinking it was turning into a scam and was not able to buy back quite the quantities I sold.

So back on topic and unless you have factual evidence other than they usual spurious claims you dream up like me being an xmr shill stay out of the thread and create your own.

And unless you want the spot is a shill and dash scammer thread stuck to page 1 here refrain from posting any further fantasy claims about me shilling scams. Come with proof or be made to look more foolish and corrupt that you've previously been proven to be.

Have you got that - its called you need proof like I have provide on your thread dedicated to demonstrating that you are a corrupt and foolish imbecile that thought nobody would notice his  full 180 degree change of heart on a proven scam you suddenly had after offering your fud services for sale on this forum. How are you not ashamed to still post here?

Now make sure your reply includes some point of reference that is not just a fantasy you constructed or some rambling and childish swearing with no actual verifiable content like your other 5000 posts.

Now as I've told you before  stop pestering me with your fantasies else I will 100% stick the spot is a dash scam shill to page 1 here. I will also reference it as a reply to every post you make as a valid and responsible warning to others that anything you say needs to be fully scrutinised due to previously being proven your opinion is for sale.

You lost any right and all credibility to lecture anyone on anything related to scamming especially when it is just a fantasy in your deranged mind and is never accompanied with any evidence or even any events at all corroborating your nonsense. Come armed with proof or even highly suggestive corroborating events that is different.

I own over 200 alts and several in far greater quantity than blocknet or komodo.

Now read carefully the points I have made and make a VALID reply with some EVIDENCE.

Also show me a MORE useful and NEEDED project than a decentralised exchange or decentralised market place to fully complete the fully trustless environment that crypto aims to be.

Now enough derailing... the thread is about other decentralised exchanges and market places.












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September 14, 2017, 12:22:01 AM
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Agree with OP. I just cant wait when all decentralized exchange will start to work. I think we have some intresting project in the end of year.


I heared about ETH based exchanges


-Bitfinex will launch Ethfinex

- 0x is allready launched

- Bancor (but it seems unsuccesful and total crap in fact)

- Kybernetwork (ICO now)

- OmiseGo (own network in Q4 2017)

I know NEM/XEM will launch COMSA soon (ICO in october)

Also Polkadot , but it is in a far far 2019 year.



When Bitcoin problems will remain only Bitcoin problems???


It is ridiculous!



Manipulating only 1 coin can manipulate whole market.

A lot of good project are now affected only because one reason - Bitcoin drops. And that is not how crypto should develope. No more shit like this in year 2018. Thanks to decentralized exchanges. Hopefully.
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Agree with OP. I just cant wait when all decentralized exchange will start to work. I think we have some intresting project in the end of year.


I heared about ETH based exchanges


-Bitfinex will launch Ethfinex

- 0x is allready launched

- Bancor (but it seems unsuccesful and total crap in fact)

- Kybernetwork (ICO now)

- OmiseGo (own network in Q4 2017)

I know NEM/XEM will launch COMSA soon (ICO in october)

Also Polkadot , but it is in a far far 2019 year.



When Bitcoin problems will remain only Bitcoin problems???


Fuck grandfa leave this shit with you please. It is ridiculous!



Manipulating only 1 coin can manipulate whole market.

A lot of good project are now affected only because one reason - Bitcoin drops. And that is not how crypto should develope. No more shit like this in year 2018. Thanks to decentralized exchanges. Hopefully.

Lot here I've not heard of... will look into these.

Certainly dex's are going to be taking over in the near future.

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September 14, 2017, 04:15:24 AM
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etherdelta

being developed:
Ethfinex by bitfinex
plasma by OMG


I do not know if the wavesdex is really decentralized cause the devs put a limit on some coins purchasing via btc.
Am i missing something about the plasma, but i ever hear that was not the decentralized exchange site, That just like to build the lightning network to the ethereum version.
or i were missing something about the latest update of it.

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I think the biggest dex for now is etherdelta and DEX on waves platform. They will going big when many country trying to shutdown the exchange. Yes decentralized exchange solve many problem, 1. Secure our token from being atolen by the scam exchanger. 2. It can not be shuting dow easily if there is next like chinese news...

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On the China subject, I'm not so sure that China will ultimately "Ban" domestic exchanges as such, I've heard talk that the Chinese Government is going to require Exchanges to operate under a licence, and that the ICO Ban is only temporary. But I think that all information from China atm should be taken with a pinch of salt, there's a lot of miscommunication and and speculation going on, only time will reveal China's true regulatory standpoint. 
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There are some pretty big decentralised exchanges, like Openledger:

https://openledger.io/create-account

But there is no way for the Chinese to be able to access them because they are behind the Great Firewall of China.

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Correct. Decentralised exchanges are the future, however, they all have one big problem. No way to convert to fiat. Secondary problem. No volume. The first problem may not be necessary to address. People can move to trading crypto to crypto on dex, and then simply move out crypto to normal exchanges if they want to cash out. The second problem needs to be addressed. If there are 100 dexs competing for attention, we'll never get the type of volume we have at big exchanges like Poloniex. How do we fix that? I honestly don't know yet.

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Decentralised exchanges but you need then to find a way to convert into FIAT

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Decentralised exchanges but you need then to find a way to convert into FIAT
You should look into openANX. It'll make exchanges into asset gateways so that there are different kinds of exchanges on the platform. For some asset gateways, there will only be crypto-crypto trading, while for others, there will be crypto-fiat and fiat-crypto trading. Pretty interesting project
https://www.openanx.org/en

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