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May 27, 2013, 03:22:12 PM
Last edit: June 01, 2013, 12:54:55 AM by FinShaggy
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This is in Politics & Society, I posted it here so that new members could get their opinion in Smiley
GO HERE FOR MORE INFO https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0

The mission of the town is: Freedom, as guaranteed by the constitution of America

All you need to start a town in 51% of the people's vote, and a written constitution or some other founding document. If we invest in our own town we can be the founders, and with BTC it will make it easier for us to come together from around the world to get this done. As well as not worry about paying taxes as long as we don't exchange cash. And we could have the elected town leaders pay federal taxes and do all our fiat exchanges for us, so that our "no tax town" system is viable.

And you only need 6 acres of people to agree... So I looked online and there are patches of land that are 600 acres (nearly 1 square mile) for sale in New Mexico. If 200 people each put in $10,000 (or equivalent in BTC) the property would be ours (I think this could be accomplished in 1 year). And at that point we could start using the land to farm and produce things and anyone who could afford a house or an Earthship could start building, while anyone else can rent their land out to earn money, or sell it (we will all come together and vote on what the land can and cannot be used for during this time) and once we have some communal money we can help people build Earthships and start working on Solar power and getting a super solid internet connection. Then we could start building FPGAs and ASICs, while we farm and produce what we can.

I feel New Mexico would be the best place to start something like this for a few reasons:

1. Billy the Kid ran out the Illuminati by starting a war against the corrupt "Justice System" where the people were literally shooting at cops.

2. the Freemasons messed up with their farming methods which was the reason for the "dust bowl". So all the people that would oppose Bitcoin are gone (central bankers and such).

3. Land is cheap in New Mexico.

4. It is a good place for affordable "Earthship" living, and could easily accommodate regular housing as well.

5. Tons of sun all year round, so we could try to start the community with some solar power, and work towards making it all solar powered. And anyone who wanted to farm could.
 

Once the town got started we would buy a some tractors, and use them to build better roads and farm better. Then we can start opening gift shops and things like that, and eventually work on starting our own franchises, or bringing a few to town and accepting bitcoin.

But we could make it a town where no one pays taxes, and the "town government" is nothing but a service.  


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May 29, 2013, 02:51:20 PM
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This looks very interesting. Real quick, how is it a bitcoin town? You've put out a good amount of content, but lets sort through the clutter and get to the facts of it all. How is it a BITCOIN Town? I see the pictures from this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0
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May 29, 2013, 02:55:49 PM
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This looks very interesting. Real quick, how is it a bitcoin town? You've put out a good amount of content, but lets sort through the clutter and get to the facts of it all. How is it a BITCOIN Town? I see the pictures from this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0

You should rather ask how it is a TOWN. Because right now it's an acre of arid New Mexico land without access to water and a manic-depressive weedhead that is banned on half the Internet for being a manic-depressive weedhead as it's leader.
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May 29, 2013, 03:02:19 PM
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Sounds scary. Shocked

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May 29, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
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This looks very interesting. Real quick, how is it a bitcoin town? You've put out a good amount of content, but lets sort through the clutter and get to the facts of it all. How is it a BITCOIN Town? I see the pictures from this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0

It will be a bitcoin oriented town, I just haven't made all the videos yet. Smiley

Right now (as presented in the videos that have been posted so far) the main bitcoin oriented things are:
Everything accepts Bitcoin
We will make our own bitcoin restaurant franchise from inside the town
We will make our own bitcoin church/charity
We will try to make our own bitcoin casino
We will be making a Bitcoin series for TV or YouTube
We will encourage people to mine, and provide machines when we can

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May 29, 2013, 03:08:18 PM
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This looks very interesting. Real quick, how is it a bitcoin town? You've put out a good amount of content, but lets sort through the clutter and get to the facts of it all. How is it a BITCOIN Town? I see the pictures from this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0

You should rather ask how it is a TOWN. Because right now it's an acre of arid New Mexico land without access to water and a manic-depressive weedhead that is banned on half the Internet for being a manic-depressive weedhead as it's leader.

Lol. I'm glad you read enough to know that it's on more than one acre and that we have plans for water...
And you seem to be just as informed about me as you are about the project (0% informed that is)

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May 29, 2013, 03:12:56 PM
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I added new videos, and titles to those videos:

Most Important Videos:

First installment of "Bitcoin Town": Creating a Town in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZsLLFROucc

First Things First
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO9GcWoWszA

Local Politics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KokfEoQPU

Biodiesel & Transportation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up81asdoMzY

TV Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA4HrOXRFbk

Seed Stock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX5Sekntejo

Library & Education
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SITdDb1Pe8g

EarthShips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqVvA9L-Dvo

Biodiesel & Solar Power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wp3aEV7e1Q

Restaurant Franchise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxuPoed0H7E

Other Videos About Bitcoin Town:

New Mexico
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbEsxT2VI5E

The Arts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_eBNgQIaKc

The Police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFKG3Anr9JM

The Island
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fgf0bxSSg

Robots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmhwLaWeSTA

Casino
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIdkXH8B7SI

Water & Distilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnD-hDk0iWc

Cubensis Mushrooms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJWvPp7wXvM

Everyone Gets a Vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiE4mkHBM68

Medical Marijuana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XqENZnp8c4

Creation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5nZc_9sRl8

Individual Freedoms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_TtkJ6Jk9U

Radio Shows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzPWECBcAKI

Junk Yard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaB8mxsOzfk

PAC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dns38YgbbyQ

Hatchery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzJn0XwdxDM

Corn Farmers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwzmrM-kiAc

Pets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQPCsXmy5pc

Public Cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JigHbf5vea8

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May 29, 2013, 03:13:56 PM
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This it interesting lol.

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May 29, 2013, 03:14:00 PM
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This looks very interesting. Real quick, how is it a bitcoin town? You've put out a good amount of content, but lets sort through the clutter and get to the facts of it all. How is it a BITCOIN Town? I see the pictures from this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0

You should rather ask how it is a TOWN. Because right now it's an acre of arid New Mexico land without access to water and a manic-depressive weedhead that is banned on half the Internet for being a manic-depressive weedhead as it's leader.

Lol. I'm glad you read enough to know that it's on more than one acre and that we have plans for water...
And you seem to be just as informed about me as you are about the project (0% informed that is)

Haha, I'm not gonna discuss with you crazy person. We learned that from dank, where we genuinely tried to help him, that this is entirely useless thanks to the specific alterations MJ does to a person's mind. But do continue your "planning". It is most amusing.
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May 29, 2013, 03:15:44 PM
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This looks very interesting. Real quick, how is it a bitcoin town? You've put out a good amount of content, but lets sort through the clutter and get to the facts of it all. How is it a BITCOIN Town? I see the pictures from this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0

You should rather ask how it is a TOWN. Because right now it's an acre of arid New Mexico land without access to water and a manic-depressive weedhead that is banned on half the Internet for being a manic-depressive weedhead as it's leader.

Lol. I'm glad you read enough to know that it's on more than one acre and that we have plans for water...
And you seem to be just as informed about me as you are about the project (0% informed that is)

Haha, I'm not gonna discuss with you crazy person. We learned that from dank, where we genuinely tried to help him, that this is entirely useless thanks to the specific alterations MJ does to a person's mind. But do continue your "planning". It is most amusing.

I'm glad it's amusing you, you should probably go on YouTube and comment on the videos so that everyone that is currently commenting will know "not to take them seriously" (and tell your friends to come comment too Smiley ). Because some of these videos have over 100 views now, and people seem to be taking them pretty seriously...

I bet this even sparks discussion for other towns to start Smiley

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May 29, 2013, 03:16:48 PM
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This it interesting lol.


Thanks Smiley

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May 29, 2013, 03:23:26 PM
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It certainly is interesting. I don't think I'll be running off to New Mexico just yet (lol) but its worth keeping an eye on from the perspective of an intrepid if rather bonkers experiment.
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May 29, 2013, 03:28:18 PM
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It certainly is interesting. I don't think I'll be running off to New Mexico just yet (lol) but its worth keeping an eye on from the perspective of an intrepid if rather bonkers experiment.

That's all I'm even asking for right now. It's going to take about a month to post all the information for the proposed town (I have over 100 videos to make, and have only made 29 of them)

Then it will take about 3-6 months to pick about 4-6 plots we like.

Then about 3 months to 1 year to visit each plot and make sure we pick the perfect one (Maybe find more than the 4-6 proposed). Then buy a plot

Then we will have a meeting with everyone who is involved (at some hotel nearby so anyone who wants to can go see the land), and anyone who wants to camp in a tent, small building or RV will be able to come to the land at that time while we start construction.

We plan on having this started by 2015.

So honestly all we want right now is for curious people to stay tuned Smiley

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May 29, 2013, 03:30:38 PM
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FinShaggy in 30 years. Loved the stuff about the robots btw.
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May 29, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
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FinShaggy in 30 years. Loved the stuff about the robots btw.

Lol, in 30 years I'll be over 50. So I doubt I'll look that young, and I doubt I'll be that fat when I'm 50 (maybe around 35-40)... Plus, where's the beard?

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May 29, 2013, 03:36:05 PM
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Kind of like a chartered town right?
with the ability to create our own laws, I heard about something like that in California.

It sounds like a good idea but 1 acre? we would have to expand... horizontally or vertically?
It would be very interesting to create a town that was 1 mile deep and had caverns leading to water reservoirs.

Just thinking out loud, thinking way out there,
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May 29, 2013, 03:36:54 PM
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Kind of like a chartered town right?
with the ability to create our own laws, I heard about something like that in California.

It sounds like a good idea but 1 acre? we would have to expand... horizontally or vertically?
It would be very interesting to create a town that was 1 mile deep and had caverns leading to water reservoirs.

Just thinking out loud, thinking way out there,

Why do you guys think it's only 1 acre? We are looking at 600-6000 acres already.

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May 29, 2013, 03:37:45 PM
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to agree... So I looked online and there are patches of land that are 600 acres (nearly 1 square mile) for sale in New Mexico.

^^^This is from the original post on this thread.^^^

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May 29, 2013, 03:40:03 PM
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I have expanded on the original post (there is a similar thread in the society and politics section)

The mission of the town is: Freedom, as guaranteed by the constitution of America
Plans are to have a size of land between 600 acres and 6000+ acres by sometime in 2015

Other projects that will be completed before, and/or inside Bitcoin Town:
Bitcoin Restaurant- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217610.0
Bitcoin TV Show- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212562.0
Bitcoin Church/Charity- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213405.0
Bitcoin Casino- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=218497.msg2297533#msg2297533
Bitcoin Philanthropist Awards- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213699.0


All you need to start a town is 51% of the people's vote, and a written constitution or some other founding document. If we invest in our own town we can be the founders, and with BTC it will make it easier for us to come together from around the world to get this done. As well as not worry about paying taxes as long as we don't exchange cash (we have a way to do this that will be explained only to people who are very interested in supporting the town). And we could have the elected town leaders pay federal taxes and do all our fiat exchanges for us, so that our "no tax town" system is viable.

And you only need 6 acres of people to agree... So I looked online and there are patches of land that are 600 acres (nearly 1 square mile. As well as much larger plots.) for sale in New Mexico. If 200 people each put in $10,000 (or equivalent in BTC) the property would be ours (I think this could be accomplished in 1 year). And at that point we could start using the land to farm and produce things and anyone who could afford a house or an Earthship could start building, while anyone else can rent their land out to earn money, or sell it (we will all come together and vote on what the land can and cannot be used for during this time) and once we have some communal money we can help people build Earthships and start working on Solar power and getting a super solid internet connection. Then we could start building FPGAs and ASICs, while we farm and produce what we can.

I feel New Mexico would be the best place to start something like this for a few reasons:

1. Billy the Kid ran out the Illuminati by starting a war against the corrupt "Justice System" where the people were literally shooting at cops.

2. the Freemasons messed up with their farming methods which was the reason for the "dust bowl". So all the people that would oppose Bitcoin are gone (central bankers and such).

3. Land is cheap in New Mexico.

4. It is a good place for affordable "Earthship" living, and could easily accommodate regular housing as well.

5. Tons of sun all year round, so we could try to start the community with some solar power, and work towards making it all solar powered. And anyone who wanted to farm could.

6. In New Mexico you don't have to pay taxes on most food trade anyways.
 

Once the town got started we would buy a some tractors, and use them to build better roads and farm better. Then we can start opening gift shops and things like that, and eventually work on starting our own franchises, or bringing a few to town and accepting bitcoin.

But we could make it a town where no one pays taxes, and the "town government" is nothing but a service.  




Most Important Videos:

First installment of "Bitcoin Town": Creating a Town in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZsLLFROucc

First Things First
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO9GcWoWszA

Local Politics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KokfEoQPU

Biodiesel & Transportation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up81asdoMzY

TV Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA4HrOXRFbk

Seed Stock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX5Sekntejo

Library & Education
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SITdDb1Pe8g

EarthShips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqVvA9L-Dvo

Biodiesel & Solar Power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wp3aEV7e1Q

Restaurant Franchise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxuPoed0H7E

Other Videos About Bitcoin Town:

New Mexico
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbEsxT2VI5E

The Arts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_eBNgQIaKc

The Police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFKG3Anr9JM

The Island
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fgf0bxSSg

Robots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmhwLaWeSTA

Casino
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIdkXH8B7SI

Water & Distilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnD-hDk0iWc

Cubensis Mushrooms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJWvPp7wXvM

Everyone Gets a Vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiE4mkHBM68

Medical Marijuana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XqENZnp8c4

Creation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5nZc_9sRl8

Individual Freedoms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_TtkJ6Jk9U

Radio Shows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzPWECBcAKI

Junk Yard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaB8mxsOzfk

PAC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dns38YgbbyQ

Hatchery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzJn0XwdxDM

Corn Farmers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwzmrM-kiAc

Pets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQPCsXmy5pc

Public Cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JigHbf5vea8

We will be attempting to start a restaurant, so that the town has a good place to eat and food supply ready to move in right when we get there Smiley
If we can't start the restaurant before the town, we will start it IN town once we have a small community.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217610.msg2288125#msg2288125
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxuPoed0H7E

The things that we plan to have on the menu so far are these:

Pancakes
Eggs/Omelets
Burgers (REAL ones, not like McDonalds)
Funnel Cake
French Fries
Carne Asada
Burritos (and every other variation of tortilla and contents, which means chips and salsa too)
Noodles
Sandwhiches
A Salad Bar
And anyone involved's "specialty"

For the people that could not afford their own house, this is the kind of house we would be building as public work (public work is for people who need money).

They are called EarthShips





The outline of an Earthship is made with old tires for insulation. The tires are framed with wood, and filled with concrete, some people fill the tires with soda cans or dirt, then concrete. Then some people put soda cans on the outside of the tires in the concrete also.





There are many benefits of Earthship living



We will also offer publicly built Geodomes for greenhouses and living.



We will also offer trailers to bury and use as basements, or use above ground as housing:


And our EarthShips will be different than most:

1. Each person will have at least three acres, so we won't be making small ones.

2. Geodomes outside will be used as green houses, making more room in the larger EarthShips

3. Trailers will be used to make basements, allowing for WAY more space.


And again, an outside company will be contracted for regular building, these will just be built for anyone that wants publically built housing.
You only get a Earthship if you want a FREE house Smiley

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May 29, 2013, 03:41:01 PM
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You have discarded your hippie style because you are the leader of a new society. You've also clearly taken to smoking a pipe. I can only imagine what's in it.

Seriously though, can I be the projects official documentary film maker. I would love to document this.
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