⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All

[h4nnmann11]

hi
I don't want to duplicate text from my thread, but you can take a look and help resolve the issue on vave.com. They took my money.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464326.new#new

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[BlackyJacky]

The Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and not provably fair!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets to lose.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

[TwitchySeal]

But as I lost around 30,000 USD from my pocket instead of winning 180,000 USD, bets won and lost can not refer to dealer hands won and lost!

Your issue is you convinced yourself that you found a way to beat the casino without understanding basic math.  Obviously your calculations were wrong then, just like most of the calculations you've made in this thread (which I've already explained in detail several times).

When you ended up losing money instead of winning the 180k you expected, you should have considered the possibility that you were mistaken when you determined that you would be able to beat online black jack with common rules and an infinite deck.  Instead, you concluded that the game must be rigged and you did a bunch of more convoluted calculations and convinced yourself that you'd proven something you didn't.

You'd be better off spending your time taking some online math classes than crying in this thread.  I'd recommend starting at grade 6 or 7 level at a site like khan academy.  Here: https://www.khanacademy.org/math/on-seventh-grade-math

[BlackyJacky]

Does anyone know the email address of the Complaints Department for the websites Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

[TwitchySeal]

Does anyone know the email address of the Complaints Department for the websites Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Those are all mirrors for stake.

So...
support@stake.com


They will ignore you because your claims are nonsense though.

[BlackyJacky]

Does anyone know the email address of the Complaints Department for the websites Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Those are all mirrors for stake.

These websites neither state who owns them nor who operates them, how do you know that these websites are operated by the brand Stake?

Who is the operator of the brand Stake?

[TwitchySeal]

how do you know that these websites are operated by the brand Stake?

mirror list: playstake.io

These websites neither state who owns them nor who operates them

Yes they do. Scroll all the way to the bottom.

[BlackyJacky]

how do you know that these websites are operated by the brand Stake?

mirror list: playstake.io

Unfortunately, a name can not be the operator of a website / domain, only companies or natural persons can.

These websites neither state who owns them nor who operates them

Yes they do. Scroll all the way to the bottom.

No they do not!

At the bottom these websites state that the name Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V.

They do not state who owns and operates the website / domain.

Now you see what scam artists Bijan, Edward and Mladen are!

For example, I am logged in and deposited and play at stake.bet, but instead of stating who owns and operates the website / domain stake.bet, they state who owns and operates the name Stake.

[TwitchySeal]

how do you know that these websites are operated by the brand Stake?

mirror list: playstake.io

Unfortunately, a name can not be the operator of a website / domain, only companies or natural persons can.

These websites neither state who owns them nor who operates them

Yes they do. Scroll all the way to the bottom.

No they do not!

At the bottom these websites state that the name Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V.

They do not state who owns and operates the website / domain.

Now you see what scam artists Bijan, Edward and Mladen are!

For example, I am logged in and deposited and play at stake.bet, but instead of stating who owns and operates the website / domain stake.bet, they state who owns and operates the name Stake.

[BlackyJacky]

how do you know that these websites are operated by the brand Stake?

mirror list: playstake.io

Unfortunately, a name can not be the operator of a website / domain, only companies or natural persons can.

These websites neither state who owns them nor who operates them

Yes they do. Scroll all the way to the bottom.

No they do not!

At the bottom these websites state that the name Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V.

They do not state who owns and operates the website / domain.

Now you see what scam artists Bijan, Edward and Mladen are!

For example, I am logged in and deposited and play at stake.bet, but instead of stating who owns and operates the website / domain stake.bet, they state who owns and operates the name Stake.

https://i.snipboard.io/HN2a8t.jpg

What is the sense of posting a screenshot from the website / domain playstake.io while I said that at the bottom of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink the owner and operator is not stated?

[TwitchySeal]

how do you know that these websites are operated by the brand Stake?

mirror list: playstake.io

Unfortunately, a name can not be the operator of a website / domain, only companies or natural persons can.

These websites neither state who owns them nor who operates them

Yes they do. Scroll all the way to the bottom.

No they do not!

At the bottom these websites state that the name Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V.

They do not state who owns and operates the website / domain.

Now you see what scam artists Bijan, Edward and Mladen are!

For example, I am logged in and deposited and play at stake.bet, but instead of stating who owns and operates the website / domain stake.bet, they state who owns and operates the name Stake.

What is the sense of posting a screenshot from the website / domain playstake.io while I said that at the bottom of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink the owner and operator is not stated?

Read the words.  Use your brain.  You figured out how to use the internet and find this forum so you can't be as stupid as you're acting.

[BlackyJacky]

how do you know that these websites are operated by the brand Stake?

mirror list: playstake.io

Unfortunately, a name can not be the operator of a website / domain, only companies or natural persons can.

These websites neither state who owns them nor who operates them

Yes they do. Scroll all the way to the bottom.

No they do not!

At the bottom these websites state that the name Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V.

They do not state who owns and operates the website / domain.

Now you see what scam artists Bijan, Edward and Mladen are!

For example, I am logged in and deposited and play at stake.bet, but instead of stating who owns and operates the website / domain stake.bet, they state who owns and operates the name Stake.

https://i.snipboard.io/HN2a8t.jpg

What is the sense of posting a screenshot from the website / domain playstake.io while I said that at the bottom of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink the owner and operator is not stated?

Read the words.  Use your brain.  You figured out how to use the internet and find this forum so you can't be as stupid as you're acting.

LOL, this is really funny!

So Bijan, Edward and Mladen publicly say they operate the crypto currency online casino websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink, but they do not have a crypto currency online casino license for it!!!

LMAO  


@ Bijan, Edward and Mladen

Please tell me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Please show me the crypto currency online casino licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Staketr.com , Stake.games ?

[TwitchySeal]

how do you know that these websites are operated by the brand Stake?

mirror list: playstake.io

Unfortunately, a name can not be the operator of a website / domain, only companies or natural persons can.

These websites neither state who owns them nor who operates them

Yes they do. Scroll all the way to the bottom.

No they do not!

At the bottom these websites state that the name Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V.

They do not state who owns and operates the website / domain.

Now you see what scam artists Bijan, Edward and Mladen are!

For example, I am logged in and deposited and play at stake.bet, but instead of stating who owns and operates the website / domain stake.bet, they state who owns and operates the name Stake.

What is the sense of posting a screenshot from the website / domain playstake.io while I said that at the bottom of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink the owner and operator is not stated?

Read the words.  Use your brain.  You figured out how to use the internet and find this forum so you can't be as stupid as you're acting.

LOL, this is really funny!

So Bijan, Edward and Mladen publicly say they operate the crypto currency online casino websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink, but they do not have a crypto currency online casino license for it!!!

LMAO  


@ Bijan, Edward and Mladen

Please tell me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Please show me the crypto currency online casino licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Staketr.com , Stake.games ?

You really need to look yourself in the mirror and accept responsibility for deciding to gamble away $30k.  It wasn't stolen from you.  It's not Eddie or Stunnas fault.  You weren't cheated and even if they didn't have a license (they do) it was still your decision to gamble with that money.  You can keep looking for some excuse to avoid this, but they will only make any sense in your own little fantasy world.  Accept you lost and quit acting like such a baby.

[BlackyJacky]

@ Bijan, Edward and Mladen

Please tell me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Please show me the crypto currency online casino licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Staketr.com , Stake.games ?

You weren't cheated and even if they didn't have a license (they do) it was still your decision to gamble with that money.

If they do have licenses, show the licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Show me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

[so98nn]

I am not sure why this has not been known by many members yet? The thread has been opened since 2017 and yet it’s not much discussed. The articles and white paper are good man. The white paper is more or less technically related to how fairness works. I am more or less non technical so I’m just looking at your site as Casual surfer who would want to know which casino is best to choose right now.

I think you should also add up more casinos on your own? It seems there is membership submission for casinos?? Instead of that it should be self inclusion by Crypto Gambling Foundation with a section where they can mention it otherwise. Overall amazing Website.

[TwitchySeal]

@ Bijan, Edward and Mladen

Please tell me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Please show me the crypto currency online casino licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Staketr.com , Stake.games ?

You weren't cheated and even if they didn't have a license (they do) it was still your decision to gamble with that money.

If they do have licenses, show the licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Show me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

It's at the bottom of Stake.com, go look for yourself.

No, it's not a "crypto online casino license", and it doesn't have to be.  As you already know, curacao is in the process of creating a crypto specific license that's supposed to be roll out soon and they have explicitly said until then their current license covers crypto currencies.

And you already know the owner/operator of stake, you've literally mentioned them by name dozens of times already.

And you also already know those are all stake mirrors.  

So far the only thing you've convinced anyone of is what an idiot you are.  Seriously, has even a single person taken you seriously since you started spamming this thread?

[BlackyJacky]

@ Bijan, Edward and Mladen

Please tell me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Please show me the crypto currency online casino licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Staketr.com , Stake.games ?

You weren't cheated and even if they didn't have a license (they do) it was still your decision to gamble with that money.

If they do have licenses, show the licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Show me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

It's at the bottom of Stake.com, go look for yourself.

You are lying again!

At the bottom of Stake.com is neither a crypto currency online casino license for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink stated nor who owns and operates them.

No, it's not a "crypto online casino license",

One time you say the truth! Applaud, applaud!  

and it doesn't have to be.  

You are lying again!

Easygo does not have to enforce the Australian laws and regulations only if they have a valid crypto currency online casino license abroad for the websites / domains Stake.com , Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink

As you already know, curacao is in the process of creating a crypto specific license that's supposed to be roll out soon and they have explicitly said until then their current license covers crypto currencies.

I have no knowledge at all that Curacao is in the process of creating a crypto specific license!

Who said that their current license covers crypto currencies?

And you already know the owner/operator of stake, you've literally mentioned them by name dozens of times already.

I do not know who is the owner or operator of the name Stake, please show the brand name registrant?

And you also already know those are all stake mirrors.

I know that those are all stake.com website content mirrors, but they are not domain mirrors.

If you hold a mirror on Stake.com, the outcome is Stake.com and not Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba or Stake.pink!

[TwitchySeal]

@ Bijan, Edward and Mladen

Please tell me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Please show me the crypto currency online casino licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Staketr.com , Stake.games ?

You weren't cheated and even if they didn't have a license (they do) it was still your decision to gamble with that money.

If they do have licenses, show the licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Show me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

It's at the bottom of Stake.com, go look for yourself.

You are lying again!

At the bottom of Stake.com is neither a crypto currency online casino license for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink stated nor who owns and operate them.

lol

It's at the bottom of Stake.com, go look for yourself.

No, it's not a "crypto online casino license", and it doesn't have to be.  As you already know, curacao is in the process of creating a crypto specific license that's supposed to be roll out soon and they have explicitly said until then their current license covers crypto currencies.

And you already know the owner/operator of stake, you've literally mentioned them by name dozens of times already.

And you also already know those are all stake mirrors.  

So far the only thing you've convinced anyone of is what an idiot you are.  Seriously, has even a single person taken you seriously since you started spamming this thread?

Where's the crypto license and the name of the owner on game-protect.com ?

[BlackyJacky]

I am not sure why this has not been known by many members yet? The thread has been opened since 2017 and yet it’s not much discussed. The articles and white paper are good man. The white paper is more or less technically related to how fairness works. I am more or less non technical so I’m just looking at your site as Casual surfer who would want to know which casino is best to choose right now.

I think you should also add up more casinos on your own? It seems there is membership submission for casinos?? Instead of that it should be self inclusion by Crypto Gambling Foundation with a section where they can mention it otherwise. Overall amazing Website.

This has not be known by many members yet, because this thread is not supported since years!

The Crypto Gambling Foundation is not reachable since years!

Their "provably fair" show is over, because Stake's in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets to lose.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

[BlackyJacky]

@ Bijan, Edward and Mladen

Please tell me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Please show me the crypto currency online casino licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Staketr.com , Stake.games ?

You weren't cheated and even if they didn't have a license (they do) it was still your decision to gamble with that money.

If they do have licenses, show the licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Show me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

It's at the bottom of Stake.com, go look for yourself.

Stake.com website bottom:

"Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V., registration number: 145353, registered address: Korporaalweg 10, Willemstad, Curaçao. Contact us at support@stake.com. Payment agent company is Medium Rare Limited with address 7-9 Riga Feraiou, LIZANTIA COURT, Office 310, Agioi Omologites, 1087 Nicosia, Cyprus and Registration number: HE 410775"

Not one word about who owns and operates the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink!

They even do not state who owns and operates the website Stake.com!