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[TwitchySeal]

@ Bijan, Edward and Mladen

Please tell me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Please show me the crypto currency online casino licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Staketr.com , Stake.games ?

You weren't cheated and even if they didn't have a license (they do) it was still your decision to gamble with that money.

If they do have licenses, show the licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Show me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

It's at the bottom of Stake.com, go look for yourself.

Stake.com website bottom:

"Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V., registration number: 145353, registered address: Korporaalweg 10, Willemstad, Curaçao. Contact us at support@stake.com. Payment agent company is Medium Rare Limited with address 7-9 Riga Feraiou, LIZANTIA COURT, Office 310, Agioi Omologites, 1087 Nicosia, Cyprus and Registration number: HE 410775"

Not one word about who owns and operates the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink!

They even do not state who owns and operates the website Stake.com!

What's your point.

Do you think because the owner of the company isn't named at the bottom of the site means that you shouldn't be down 30k after wagering almost 10 million?

What's 0.5% of 10 million?

Is Jeff bezos name at the bottom of amazon.com?
How about Elon musk at the bottom of Twitter?  

You lost.  Accept it and quit embarrassing yourself.

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[BlackyJacky]

@ Bijan, Edward and Mladen

Please tell me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Please show me the crypto currency online casino licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Staketr.com , Stake.games ?

You weren't cheated and even if they didn't have a license (they do) it was still your decision to gamble with that money.

If they do have licenses, show the licenses for the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

Show me who is the owner and operator of the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink ?

It's at the bottom of Stake.com, go look for yourself.

Stake.com website bottom:

"Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V., registration number: 145353, registered address: Korporaalweg 10, Willemstad, Curaçao. Contact us at support@stake.com. Payment agent company is Medium Rare Limited with address 7-9 Riga Feraiou, LIZANTIA COURT, Office 310, Agioi Omologites, 1087 Nicosia, Cyprus and Registration number: HE 410775"

Not one word about who owns and operates the websites / domains Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink!

They even do not state who owns and operates the website Stake.com!

What's your point.

Bijan, Edward and Mladen operate the websites Stake.ac , Stake.bet , Stake.bz , Stake.ceo , Stake.com , Staketr.com , Stake.games , Stake.jp , Stake.krd , Stake.mba and Stake.pink illegal without an online casino license!

Their alleged "Legal Department" are incompetent idiots!

Instead of giving my unjustifiably taken 30,000 USD back and I move on, they prefer to put their multi billion USD online casino operation in jeoparty!

How stupid is this?

[BlackyJacky]

Can you imagine that I try since one year to get my at Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack system unjustifiably lost 30,000 USD back and Bijan, Edward and Mladen follow the ignorance strategy?

Changpeng Zhao also followed the ignorance strategy and it became very expensive!

Why do they do this?

[TwitchySeal]

Can you imagine that I try since one year to get my at Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack system unjustifiably lost 30,000 USD back and Bijan, Edward and Mladen follow the ignorance strategy?

Changpeng Zhao also followed the ignorance strategy and it became very expensive!

Why do they do this?

You wagered almost $10,000,000.

The house edge is 0.5%

Stop crying because you did nonsense math and convinced yourself you could win long term at online black jack.  You should've lost more if anything.

[BlackyJacky]

Stop crying because you did nonsense math and convinced yourself you could win long term at online black jack.

My math is perfect!

Only because you are too stupid to understand basic math does not make my math nonsense:

The Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and not provably fair!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets to lose.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

So Bijan, Edward and Mladen are going the Changpeng Zhao route now, or what?

[TwitchySeal]

Stop crying because you did nonsense math and convinced yourself you could win long term at online black jack.

My math is perfect!

Only because you are too stupid to understand basic math does not make my math nonsense:

The Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and not provably fair!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

So Bijan, Edward and Mladen are going the Changpeng Zhao route now, or what?

If the house edge is 0.5%, that means, in the long run you're expected to lose 0.5% of the amount you wagered.

Do you disagree?

I've already explained what's wrong specifically with your calculation (you ignore the fact that black jack pays 3:2, and calculate it as if every win pays even money).  But that aside, you understand that the house edge reflects how much the house expects to win, which is the same as how much the player should expect to lose...correct? 

[BlackyJacky]

If the house edge is 0.5%, that means, in the long run you're expected to lose 0.5% of the amount you wagered.

Do you disagree?

Yes.

My rewards were around 0,5%, so I was expected to lose nothing (0,5% house edge - 0,5% rewards = 0).

I've already explained what's wrong specifically with your calculation (you ignore the fact that black jack pays 3:2, and calculate it as if every win pays even money).

If Stake "Statistics" calculates a Black Jack win as 1 bet won while I won 1,5 bets, then you just confirmed that their in-house Black Jack system is rigged!

[TwitchySeal]

If the house edge is 0.5%, that means, in the long run you're expected to lose 0.5% of the amount you wagered.

Do you disagree?

Yes.

My rewards were around 0,5%, so I was expected to lose nothing (0,5% house edge - 0,5% rewards = 0).

I've already explained what's wrong specifically with your calculation (you ignore the fact that black jack pays 3:2, and calculate it as if every win pays even money).

If Stake "Statistics" calculates a Black Jack win as 1 bet won while I won 1,5 bets, then you just confirmed that their in-house Black Jack system is rigged!

But your "calculation" clearly results in the player having a significant edge.  Rewards are separate and dependent on which games you play and how much you've won or lost at each point.  I'm just talking about your "math".

[BlackyJacky]

If the house edge is 0.5%, that means, in the long run you're expected to lose 0.5% of the amount you wagered.

Do you disagree?

Yes.

My rewards were around 0,5%, so I was expected to lose nothing (0,5% house edge - 0,5% rewards = 0).

I've already explained what's wrong specifically with your calculation (you ignore the fact that black jack pays 3:2, and calculate it as if every win pays even money).

If Stake "Statistics" calculates a Black Jack win as 1 bet won while I won 1,5 bets, then you just confirmed that their in-house Black Jack system is rigged!

But your "calculation" clearly results in the player having a significant edge.  

No, my calculation clearly results in the player having no edge:

My rewards were around 0,5%, so I was expected to lose nothing (0,5% house edge - 0,5% rewards = 0).

0 = no edge for the player.

Rewards are separate and dependent on which games you play and how much you've won or lost at each point.  

0,5% house edge minus 0,5% rewards = nothing to lose instead of 30,000 USD lost!

I'm just talking about your "math".

It is not "my" math, it is public math.

Stake is a public company which has to follow public math and the public math says:

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lose.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

[BlackyJacky]

Who controls Stake's alleged "provably fair" system and how?

[BlackyJacky]

Is any Stake employee here?

[BlackyJacky]

Is it normal for a multi-billion USD online casino operation to ignore its threads on Bitcointalk, the birthplace of its operation?

[TwitchySeal]

If the house edge is 0.5%, that means, in the long run you're expected to lose 0.5% of the amount you wagered.

Do you disagree?

Yes.

My rewards were around 0,5%, so I was expected to lose nothing (0,5% house edge - 0,5% rewards = 0).

I've already explained what's wrong specifically with your calculation (you ignore the fact that black jack pays 3:2, and calculate it as if every win pays even money).

If Stake "Statistics" calculates a Black Jack win as 1 bet won while I won 1,5 bets, then you just confirmed that their in-house Black Jack system is rigged!

But your "calculation" clearly results in the player having a significant edge.  

No, my calculation clearly results in the player having no edge:

My rewards were around 0,5%, so I was expected to lose nothing (0,5% house edge - 0,5% rewards = 0).

0 = no edge for the player.

Rewards are separate and dependent on which games you play and how much you've won or lost at each point.  

0,5% house edge minus 0,5% rewards = nothing to lose instead of 30,000 USD lost!

I'm just talking about your "math".

It is not "my" math, it is public math.

Stake is a public company which has to follow public math and the public math says:

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lose.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

The calculation you keep repeating does not factor in black jack paying 3 to 2.

You've known this for months.  A hand of black jack is not the same as a coin flip.  The player wins less often, but that's made up for by allowing the player to increase their wager after seeing their hand in certain circumstances (split and double) as well as pay 3-2 for black jacks.  You win less often, but on average you win more than 1x your bet + bet back.

It literally says it right on the table.  Go see for yourself.

[BlackyJacky]

Since 13 months!!! I demand compensation for the unjustifiably lost 30,000 USD at Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and all responsible parties like the alleged Stake "Legal Department", managing director Xecutive Corporate Management B.V., the 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. and the Curacao Gaming Control Board ignore me!

[TwitchySeal]

Since 13 months!!! I demand compensation for the unjustifiably lost 30,000 USD at Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and all responsible parties like the alleged Stake "Legal Department", managing director Xecutive Corporate Management B.V., the 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. and the Curacao Gaming Control Board ignore me!

Stop crying.

You're embarrassing yourself.

[BlackyJacky]

I find it strange that Bijan, Edward and Mladen pay a ton of marketing posters here on Bitcointalk, but ignore their own threads here on Bitcointalk.

That does not make much sense, if they are a honest crypto currency online casino operation!

[goldenmonke]

I find it strange that Bijan, Edward and Mladen pay a ton of marketing posters here on Bitcointalk, but ignore their own threads here on Bitcointalk.

That does not make much sense, if they are a honest crypto currency online casino operation!

most billionaires are too busy to post on bitcoin talk, not in the least to respond to silly takes.

[BlackyJacky]

I find it strange that Bijan, Edward and Mladen pay a ton of marketing posters here on Bitcointalk, but ignore their own threads here on Bitcointalk.

That does not make much sense, if they are a honest crypto currency online casino operation!

most billionaires are too busy to post on bitcoin talk, not in the least to respond to silly takes.

1) Mladen is a henchman of Bijan and Edward and not a billionaire. Hence, he could easyly monitor their threads here on Bitcointalk.

They pay a ton of marketing posters here, so they consider Bitcointalk important, like many other online casino operators do.


2) It is sufficient if Stake support monitors their threads here on Bitcointalk.


3) In more serious cases, like their provably rigged in-house Black Jack system, they can engage experts to clarify things.

If they do not want to engage experts to clarify things, they have something to hide!

Should not be too difficult to figure out?

[BlackyJacky]

The 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. forwarded my compensation demand towards them to complaints@stake.com and complaints@xcm.cw

Maybe a light on the horizon after 13,5 months?

The Stake alleged "Legal Department" and the Stake managing director Xecutive Corporate Management B.V. ignored my emails so far, but maybe after the license holder Antillephone chimed in they will now answer.

[BlackyJacky]

Even though the 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. chimed in on January 12, 2024, the Stake alleged "Legal Department" and the Stake managing director Xecutive Corporate Management B.V. still have not answered!

How on earth can you run a provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and ignore a compensation claim while your name and everything is publicly known?

Is it because Stake is managed by two RuneScape players and a chat moderator?