Bitcoin to the moon! No China no more problems.

[cybersofts]

Bitcoin is recovering very fast in lightning speed!
It appears the value will grow even bigger without china with more market stability.
Bitcoin value grow with approximately 8% in the last 24 hours which is very excellent!
We are back in no time, fellas! We're even more powerful yet heading to the MOON!







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[CryptoBeefy]

I would say at December we'll be above $4000. I'm still expecting a bit more of a dip as China gacve their exchanges a month to cease trading so think some will leave it late to sell up etc. After that ... Hopefully to the MOOOOON

[tegarp90]

Ofcourse.. Disable china market doesn't mean all the chinese who "play" bitcoins can't trade in another market..
They moved to another market and the price will be high again or more.

[Mysterious01]

I think by December it will reach more than 5k USD as the bitcoin has recovered already from its fall and continue to grow faster.
Even without China I am sure that it will still continue to grow its value

[datodota002]

maybe chinese will regret. more exchange will opened in japan and still waiting for permission and after they all opened boom bitcoin will go to the moon

[SonnetStar]

maybe chinese will regret. more exchange will opened in japan and still waiting for permission and after they all opened boom bitcoin will go to the moon

This time China will realize they done goofed, when other countries surpass them in the blockchain movement.

I think with all the press and influx of new money bitcoin price will be well over $6k by December

[TheGodson]

There is the hard fork that will be coming in November. It wouldn't surprise me if Bitcoin jumped up the same way it did in August. I don't think the whole situation with China is exactly settled either. I think $5000ish is reasonable be December though.

[maurobiasolo]

maybe chinese will regret. more exchange will opened in japan and still waiting for permission and after they all opened boom bitcoin will go to the moon

Chinese government can't control 100% Chinese, in particular, those with substantial capitals in BVI  
They are only trying a PR action before the Communist Party in October. After that, I expect that crypto ban will be withdrawn (as well as some bans to invest in soccer and real estate abroad)

[YuginKadoya]

We can really never know until we had reach the month of November because we can surely see another Fork on that month but I am hoping we can see the value stepping to the $5000 mark value, we are nearing back then at almost $3900 mark value, then china have a negative move on their market with bitcoin then boom they blow the price to bits, but I think even without china there is a possibility that we can still get negative news regarding the value, there are a ton of a possibility it can happen, but Hope it will not and we can see the value really rise up to the moon.

[PX-Z]

This is the main reason why bitcon is so strong even without china's help. So buy while price is on 3000ish, because if the price hit the 4000 again it will be difficult to dump again since bitcoin is keeping strong and stronger nowadays. Japan will be the next big supporter of bitcoin

[BitcoinHodler]

Bitcoin is recovering very fast in lightning speed!

actually with bitcoin standard it is a slow recovery! every since 15th the price is barely reaching $4000 now after 3 days. the fast recovery would have been $4500 2 days ago.

It appears the value will grow even bigger without china with more market stability.

China didn't go anywhere. Chinese are buying bitcoin more than past. the price was low enough for them to buy even more at a much bigger profit!

Bitcoin value grow with approximately 8% in the last 24 hours which is very excellent!
We are back in no time, fellas! We're even more powerful yet heading to the MOON!

yeap!
price already broke $4000 and if some whale doesn't decide to go against the market movement, we can surely see the normal price level of $4500 and work from there.

[davis196]

I don`t wanna be so optimistic.Perhaps the price sill stay under 4000 USD for e few weeks.
China was a "torn in the ass" for most of us,with all the regulations and all the attempts to manipulate the bitcoin price and centralize bitcoin mining.Now we are free to grow to the moon during the next months or years.

[LodisMcguire]

User of cryptocurrency is the whole world,not just china,so the price only affected short time because of the panic effect
People who buy in 3200 will gain profit by now,i feel sorry for the weak hands

[gentlemand]

I would say at December we'll be above $4000. I'm still expecting a bit more of a dip as China gacve their exchanges a month to cease trading so think some will leave it late to sell up etc. After that ... Hopefully to the MOOOOON

December or a few minutes after you wrote that?

No one's going to be paying attention to Chinese prices from now on. They're doomed and they're irrelevant to the rest of the world. It'll be the same as pricing on Mt Gox as it was dying. That was hundreds of dollars below the functioning exchanges.

[DoublerHunter]

I think the price of bitcoin will become above 5,000 USD in the future because of the demand that is coming back and the market of bitcoin is getting stronger again with new strong holders because they know the importance of holding bitcoin and not like those people who panic sell and just sold their bitcoin even at a lower price.

[Pablo778]

I would say at December we'll be above $4000. I'm still expecting a bit more of a dip as China gacve their exchanges a month to cease trading so think some will leave it late to sell up etc. After that ... Hopefully to the MOOOOON

December or a few minutes after you wrote that?

No one's going to be paying attention to Chinese prices from now on. They're doomed and they're irrelevant to the rest of the world. It'll be the same as pricing on Mt Gox as it was dying. That was hundreds of dollars below the functioning exchanges.

I think the price will be above 5000 USD  by the end of Dec , but if China is back into the market by the end of Dec then it will rise about 6000 USD.

[Asyifiah]

Cryptocurrency without China can still grow.
cryptocurrency one of its missions is decentralized , no one can manage including the government.
because cryptocurrency properties are mostly anonymous.

[Beerwizzard]

Heh, now it is already 3 963 usd per btc
I can hardly predict bitcoin price in some month because atm I don't see any upcoming serious events (like SegWit some time ago) that will influence the BTC price. Don't think that it is possible to predict the accurate price without any "milestones" (but will apreciate if you name some of them).

[talkbitcoin]

neither China nor Problems are going anywhere
they are stuck with us till the end of the time...

soon we will have a big rise because of this down trend made a lot of people richer and they would want to buy bitcoin with their profit.
but soon after that we will have another drama called SegWit2x! then there is a possibility of another down trend. hopefully this will be after $5000 is broken.
and then another rise.

and after that another drama with another subject. who knows maybe another exchange hack! or another China ban by that time after they come back in 3 months from now.

[k@suy]

I think by December it will reach more than 5k USD as the bitcoin has recovered already from its fall and continue to grow faster.
Even without China I am sure that it will still continue to grow its value

i hope so and I am also expecting a $5,000 value per bitcoin before the year ends. Though China is closing down exchanges which can affect bitcoin demands,I think  still bitcoin will grow because demand are increasing day after day.

[ihsanskanzaone]

I think the estimated increase in bitcoin prices will increase because there are some major
states that bitkoin is not a legitimate currency in the country but the bitkoin community
denied bitkoin is not a sphere but a virtual item that can be used as an asset to invest
because of its increasing exchange rate and bitkoin is very easy in conducting transactions
 between countries so it can be ensured as long as the availability of internet in the earth
bitkoin will still exist

[1x12ty]

i believe  bitcoin prices will increase  to above $5000 end of this year .

and china i don't worry about china's gov , they don't nothing even ban exchange or have bad news.

[BrewMaster]

i pity those who thought bitcoin price will continued going down and were waiting for $2000, $1000, and lower. but i do not pity those who were waiting just because some idiot on the internet told them to wait for $2000 and lower. they deserve missing out.

in any case any news and FUD has its effective period. they come and last a while and they all fade away. no exceptions.

[jseverson]

I voted above $8k but I realize that would be wishful thinking. Getting back to $5k is far more realistic.

I do think the market will be far more stable with China out of the picture though. They have one of the more repressive governments in the world, so I don't think any more countries will follow suit. Not to mention we survived the downfall of one of the biggest markets. I'm ecstatic!

[kucritt]

haha im agree with you by the time bitcoin recover themselves in a light speed, now bitcoin is reach until $4000 usd hahaha, it can recover in a week, i think no china bitcoin will still work and still valuable above $4000 usd, and i think bitcoin will go to the moon in december above 5000$ 

[alan2here]

I would choose the $ 10,000 price because without the Chinese market it would surely be a slower but steady price increase for a long time. I think if it does not happen this year it will probably happen in 2018.

[9parlament9]

chinese has their own way to buy the bitcoin even if some government banned it

and some western investment bankers finally cannot stop watching the money rolling out

this is moment for bitcoin

[carlisle1]

chinese has their own way to buy the bitcoin even if some government banned it

and some western investment bankers finally cannot stop watching the money rolling out

this is moment for bitcoin

investors who knows and have a big bankroll will not allow this opportunities to be missed out, after the rumors of china's plan controlling crypto's
this investors and businessman are just waiting for the dip to be grabbed and load up their portfolio we are going to witness how big the jumped
that will happen.

[OzyMeister]

Ban by China will affect. Expect BTC to be around 4500$ by the end of 2017. 5.2k$ should be expected as a closing by the end of Jan 2018. 10k ? by the end of 2019.

[Kprawn]

We still have some events between then and now, like Black Friday. Some people hoard some bitcoins and then buy shit on

Black Friday. We also have Xmas shopping in December. Most of these coins are immediately converted to Fiat by the

payment processors and end up at exchanges. This will lead to a over supply on exchanges and a drop in the price. 

My guess... $4500 to $4800 by the end of September and then about $5000+ until November and then a drop to $4500

again, during these events. 

[nkarm1]

Let us all be realistic, first $10k above I think is so much. Since we have just reached its highest record which is $5k, I think $5k above is just the highest. And let us all take consideration on incoming events like the incoming fork, and also the Christmas and New Year days. Oversupply will come because "most" of the ordinary users will be needing some money and we will exchange their coins for fiat. So that would be an another wall for breaking above $6k.

[onrise]

i believe  bitcoin prices will increase  to above $5000 end of this year .

and china i don't worry about china's gov , they don't nothing even ban exchange or have bad news.

I do not agree to this because China is certainly a major player in btc market and their decision just not restrict to China itself it has multiples effect on other countries too. Even they would like to consider their decision if some major counties take a negtive stand. So certainly impact will be a long lasting and not for small er period.

[pooya87]

i believe  bitcoin prices will increase  to above $5000 end of this year .

and china i don't worry about china's gov , they don't nothing even ban exchange or have bad news.

I do not agree to this because China is certainly a major player in btc market and their decision just not restrict to China itself it has multiples effect on other countries too. Even they would like to consider their decision if some major counties take a negtive stand. So certainly impact will be a long lasting and not for small er period.

i disagree.
this is not the first country to take a weird stance towards bitcoin. and this is not even the first time that FUD about China banning bitcoin has come out. other countries don't really care about what China does. they make their own decisions. otherwise all other countries would have adopted bitcoin when Japan did! you see it goes both ways.

[onrise]

i believe  bitcoin prices will increase  to above $5000 end of this year .

and china i don't worry about china's gov , they don't nothing even ban exchange or have bad news.

I do not agree to this because China is certainly a major player in btc market and their decision just not restrict to China itself it has multiples effect on other countries too. Even they would like to consider their decision if some major counties take a negtive stand. So certainly impact will be a long lasting and not for small er period.

i disagree.
this is not the first country to take a weird stance towards bitcoin. and this is not even the first time that FUD about China banning bitcoin has come out. other countries don't really care about what China does. they make their own decisions. otherwise all other countries would have adopted bitcoin when Japan did! you see it goes both ways.

I agree what you are saying but especially not all countries are self sufficient in such spaces where they can lead this . Think from a perspective of a small couturiers in the world they would generally be taking the steps as this big major players in the market do it. Somewhere I think it will have a negative impact unless and until we have many countries who have legalized the bitcoin and ave a mass adoption . This will result in spread of the bitcoin among various countries and not only handful will be a major players in bitcoin world.

[hridoyb]

Bitcoin is always moon. China cannot ban bitcoin all over the world.We know that maximum bitcoin use in china so China ban ico Bitcoin face small panic .As a result a bitcoin down on 3000$ .After few hour bitcoin rise again and its hit up 4100$.So if china want to ban bitcoin they never do this.

[Fancyax]

I'm happy to see recovering fast but i don't think China is going anywhere. China just aims to regulate market and kick out scammers. I think it's better now.

[wmaurik]

yes bitcoin without any country would be good except without community
my expectations at the end of this year could exceed $10000 and next year will be stable at $10000, that's all I think about and what I want

[dieselmeister]

  Japan and Korea will replace China. So we dont need worry for any bad news from China anymore

[Marry Finch]

Recently, bitcoin demonstrates the possibility of its development and without China. Now the rate of bitcoin is 4 004 dollars. It can be assumed that bitcoin will not drop more, and the path for its growth is open.

[hajimasan]

Bitcoin is recovering very fast in lightning speed!
It appears the value will grow even bigger without china with more market stability.
Bitcoin value grow with approximately 8% in the last 24 hours which is very excellent!
We are back in no time, fellas! We're even more powerful yet heading to the MOON!







What do you think about this, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks

Here i don't think that we can ignore china because  most of the mining.pool have the contribution from the china i.e 8.1% , so here you can understand well that how the market can get impact much .
If anything will again happen then market will not only crash by the stop mining by the china miners but also the demand will get down , so overall we will see a big crash for one month ( if happen wrong/decision against the cryptocurrency ) .
So here we should remain ready for anytime to face crash after 20-25 days .
Here we can take and example of the one of the state of Russia who was banned to use bitcoin and we seen the fluctuations of 20%+ for 20 days , so here we can expect that what may be happen if the same thing happen .
Well here the example of the Japan like countries to accept Bitcoin as the investment will force the china to not take action against the bitcoin and cryptocurrency and ICOs like system because people are making profit and also paying tax for earnings .

[Shinpako09]

That's what i'm thinking too. They have a big impact in btc economy, if there is no China, we don't have to worry about the fall. Mostly, they are the reason of sudden. Yet considering a big loss, would be better for us if they will exit.

[rasmadisulaiman]

Without China in December bitcoin will cost around $ 4500. I'm sure it will happen if you see the bitcoin can quickly recover from its downturn. I hope so, hopefully it can be more than $ 4500 or $ 5000.

[kevindjunaidi]

yes, you are right because bitcoin lovers have so much, so it's hard to make bitcoin die. though bitcoin prices dropped dramatically, but bitcoin still rises and now bitcoin prices are starting to improve, and I'm sure the future of bitcoin prices will be even higher 

[avikz]

Somehow I believe in that. However, I don't hold any hard feeling for the Chinese people but to the Chinese government. Chinese government is very adamant since last few years. They are trying to create issue with India over borders, they are trying to show their military prowess over Vietnam and Philippines  for trespassing their sea borders. However, they must remember that every good thing has an end.

Chinese government wants their citizens to be dependent on them only and no one else. They are trying to maintain the control over their citizens by not allowing them to earn money from outside sources. These kind of activities are having a big impact on the price and market cap because a lot of people from China use bitcoin. If they are completely shut off the bitcoin market, the market will be down initially, but once it starts to recover, there will be no growth limit.

[edynolan]

it all depends on the buyer and who knows bitcoin, but my prediction of bitcoin will reach $ 5000 more in december

[BitMaxz]

Somehow I believe in that. However, I don't hold any hard feeling for the Chinese people but to the Chinese government. Chinese government is very adamant since last few years. They are trying to create issue with India over borders, they are trying to show their military prowess over Vietnam and Philippines  for trespassing their sea borders. However, they must remember that every good thing has an end.

Chinese government wants their citizens to be dependent on them only and no one else. They are trying to maintain the control over their citizens by not allowing them to earn money from outside sources. These kind of activities are having a big impact on the price and market cap because a lot of people from China use bitcoin. If they are completely shut off the bitcoin market, the market will be down initially, but once it starts to recover, there will be no growth limit.

I think you have a point because before if you remember there is a post here in forum that china was trying to centralized bitcoin in their country but they are failed to do this they wanted to control people and also control the price of bitcoin before.
And honestly every activity in china i don't like their laws..  
If china was 1 of the big investment  why the price still in the good price and i think there are china people are still holding their bitcoin and they are against the regulation of china and they don't wanted to sell their investment and i think they can be still go  to outside to withdraw their bitcoin that's why the price of bitcoin are still in good price..
If there is no china honestly bitcoin will never be affected and can hit bitcoin around $5k  to $6k value..

[Tszunami98]

I like the optimism, and i think that bitcoin will reach over 5k until the end of the year. the thing that comes to my mind is what will happen when and if China will be back in a few months? Will the price go to the moone when the chinese join the fun again?

[peter0425]

I like the optimism, and i think that bitcoin will reach over 5k until the end of the year. the thing that comes to my mind is what will happen when and if China will be back in a few months? Will the price go to the moone when the chinese join the fun again?

They already started a war against bitcoin so I don't know if they are going back in a few months. And even if local exchanges comes back as well, I seriously doubt that it can push the price further. We should enjoy our journey without mentioning China. I think we have proven it already as we have recovered from the crash we saw two weeks ago because of the negative news coming from them. With that said, a price of 5000$ is possible for me it can be touch once again as we move closer to the end of the year.

[jonval21]

I like the optimism, and i think that bitcoin will reach over 5k until the end of the year. the thing that comes to my mind is what will happen when and if China will be back in a few months? Will the price go to the moone when the chinese join the fun again?

They already started a war against bitcoin so I don't know if they are going back in a few months. And even if local exchanges comes back as well, I seriously doubt that it can push the price further. We should enjoy our journey without mentioning China. I think we have proven it already as we have recovered from the crash we saw two weeks ago because of the negative news coming from them. With that said, a price of 5000$ is possible for me it can be touch once again as we move closer to the end of the year.

bitcoin can not be banned by any country, if a country try to ban bitcoin then a black market is going to appear and the price  will go up, belive me no one can control the market and the banks are really scared about bitcoin.  the bitcoin war started a long time ago and im not worry about it.

[smith136]

those event in china actually felt by bitcoin last few days but we see it is now going up again, I read some articles regarding the shutting down of trading of cryptos in china but actually traders and businessmen have a back up plan in case the Chinese government will force to shutdown the trading of digital currencies, so I guess 5k$ to 6k$ atleast would be the value of bitcoin at the end of this year.

[mjnick01]

no china no problem,
because bitcoin is still rising at $ 5000k even without china,
and many countries still use bitcoin

[In the silence]

Even tho China's goverment did ban bitcoin. They are still allowed to use vpn and trade. And don't worry if China fully bans Cryptocurrency in thier country, they are alot of adpoters of cryptocurrency in many diffrent places in the world.

Bitcoin's price would reach 5000$+ by the end of the year.

[soulripper]

China government is banned. But the peoples of china i dont think they agreed with that.
Bitcoin like a black market to them now. lol. That will not stopping them from buying and selling i think.  Who dont want money. They will comeback.. absolutely.

[JasonXG]

Most people say that it is over $5000 I think they are right.  Btc still needs to recover this crash its had. That is why I say realistically anything over $5000 could happen.

China government is banned. But the peoples of china i dont think they agreed with that.
Bitcoin like a black market to them now. lol. That will not stopping them from buying and selling i think.  Who dont want money. They will comeback.. absolutely.

Yes but China is a bit crazy. Look at their laws. The way people are brought up in China is to blindly obey the government.

[humanCNC]

The btc market and the user system are expanding, so I do not think China can make the whole market crash. As we see btc is recovering quickly. When the market stabilizes, I think btc prices will continue to grow and may be more stable without being affected by factors like China.

[JaredStein]

Bitcoin is recovering very fast in lightning speed!
It appears the value will grow even bigger without china with more market stability.
Bitcoin value grow with approximately 8% in the last 24 hours which is very excellent!
We are back in no time, fellas! We're even more powerful yet heading to the MOON!







What do you think about this, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks

Yes it is recovering faster than ever, which continues to prove it's immutability as a scare digital asset on the internet.

[Katashi]

China is a big nation with big population, A great percentage from them may help a lot for the growth of any crypto. But if they are thinking they can shutdown or monopolize a decentralize system. nahhhhh i guess they are in the wrong neighborhood, go venture to drugs and smuggling again we don't need you here china

[Cranidos]

China is one of the main players but it is not the only one. If it stopped playing, others will just continue to play without them. The price increased without them so think what if they come back, the price will surely soar up. Regarding the speculation by December, it is quite difficult since there's still months before that and the alleged possible hard fork in November.

[moataz_ansary]

I Wish that
But wait for 30 September and see what will happen
May be we retest 2500 - 3000 Before The moon

[lkjhg]

should be like this indeed, the more disputed it will even make the market becomes rowdy, the influence of China is so great, but not to be the main problem, other countries will also help develop bitcoin

[SIHIN]

I agree with you.  Without China no problem bitcoin can survive because there is still many countries support bitcoin. Bitcoin to the moon soon

[Laergan]

If China repeals their ban, and activity spikes again in their country, the prices of BTC and amount of trading will skyrocket and lead bitcoin prices much higher! However, if the ban stays in place for quite a while, then I think BTC pricing will rise at a more moderate pace without an initial big jump.

[RYANWU]

I would rather China still stays in the bitcoin, because it will increase more volatility in this market!!

[Sirait]

^ Bitcoin will not die even if 1 country is banned Bitcoin, because our community is a bit strong. the Chinese government, Jp Morgan, or whatever it will not kill Bitcoin.

[hajimasan]

Bitcoin is recovering very fast in lightning speed!
It appears the value will grow even bigger without china with more market stability.
Bitcoin value grow with approximately 8% in the last 24 hours which is very excellent!
We are back in no time, fellas! We're even more powerful yet heading to the MOON!







What do you think about this, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks

Yeah this is the real result that we seen from the pending decision from the china government and i think they are taking time for the final result because they want give some better descion that will be in the favour of the bitcoin .
Here Personally in my opinion all the people are ready for the any negative and positive news because everyone have time to manage thier money with these opposite circumstances .
So here we should consider it as a stable price of the coin where we can make trade easily with bitcoin over fiat ( problem of fluctuations to handle with fiat ) .
Currently the price is stable at 3876$/btc which is since the 5 days ,so here we
Hope Everything should be same at that time of any type of decision by china because big fluctuations can't be handle easily ( as i seen history ) .

[Palmerson]

Bitcoin will not die even if 1 country is bilcin Bitcoin, because our community is a bit strong, the Chinese government, Jp Morgan, or whatever it will not kill Bitcoin ..

I'm not so sure. The majority of people who have bitcoins to use them for savings and investment. This leads to the fact that they pumped up the price and make themselves a bitcoin bubble. Every time the price drops they panic because they are afraid to lose everything and don't trust bitcoin.

[CraigWrightBTC]

I would rather China still stays in the bitcoin, because it will increase more volatility in this market!!

Yes, many bads rumors from China are just making down the bitcoin's price but does not mean it will kill the bitcoin, if the Chinese government is really want ban user of bitcoin on there, they must ban the internet connection too, it is something impossible to be done by the Chinese government, i saw all of the bads news from China are just making bitcoin's price down, and in my bad thinking they buy bitcoin with large of money.

[gyu22]

It is by no means new that 'Bitcoin to the moon!' is more than a desire. People are confident in the market no matter China bans or other difficulties may be settled. Actually prominent bitcoin trader an investor Tone Vays forsees bitcoin price will surpass the $100,000 mark by the end of 2018.
Their arguments and more here: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/prominent-bitcoin-trader-price-is-heading-towards-100000-in-2018/

[AndriyPilipyak]

all people who have btc don't sell in any case(only if you want to rebuy) by smaller price-all these actions are doing only by one goal-buy cheap btc by you. In my opinion in few month the price will again 5 k and more.

[btc-facebook]

all people who have btc don't sell in any case(only if you want to rebuy) by smaller price-all these actions are doing only by one goal-buy cheap btc by you. In my opinion in few month the price will again 5 k and more.

But as you can see , bitcoin need more time if bitcoin value want to reach back into initial value $ 4300 because China also hold global market around the world. About $ 5000 in a few month, it's still impossible since there is still some negative issue especially about bitcoin negative impact

[gribble]

Charlie Lee: China Bitcoin Mining Ban Rumors are False. Litecoin creator Charlie Lee says a trusted source has told him that China will not ban bitcoin mining operations or the bitcoin network. He says the rumors are being propagated by large-scale traders who are attempting to manipulate the bitcoin price.  https://t.co/1VOP6LZ4xD so bitcoin to the moon, that's will be impact on the price of bitcoin.

[Kronos21]

Charlie Lee: China Bitcoin Mining Ban Rumors are False. Litecoin creator Charlie Lee says a trusted source has told him that China will not ban bitcoin mining operations or the bitcoin network. He says the rumors are being propagated by large-scale traders who are attempting to manipulate the bitcoin price.  https://t.co/1VOP6LZ4xD so bitcoin to the moon, that's will be impact on the price of bitcoin.

I thought about it from the beginning and therefore didn't sell any coins. Only this has reinforced my conviction that the need to concurrently earn Fiat. Then we can calmly wait until the price will go up and all attempts of speculators to destabilize the market will have success.

[XIANNE25]

It's buying time again of bitcoin now before it goes to the moon

[mmhaimhai]

For a year Ive been with bitcoins I had already see sudden pump and sudden dump as well. In my observation btc pump so fast even after really deep dump just after a week or two. Im not sure if the China issue and some tweets from known people lately is the reason on dump happen few weeks ago unyil now but I still beleive in btc and hope it would recover soon.

[TravelMug]

For a year Ive been with bitcoins I had already see sudden pump and sudden dump as well. In my observation btc pump so fast even after really deep dump just after a week or two. Im not sure if the China issue and some tweets from known people lately is the reason on dump happen few weeks ago unyil now but I still beleive in btc and hope it would recover soon.

There are a couple of positive news that comes our way. First is when Charlie Lee tweeted that mining wouldn't be touch by the Chinese then Amazon was supposedly would accept bitcoin as payment method in October.

http://bittox.com/2017/09/23/breaking-amazon-will-accept-bitcoin-october/

This news was enough to have a opposing effect to the Chinese closure on exchanges at the end of the month and Dimon's latest attack. So we are still on the road to recovery but we are going in the right direction. We just have to remain positive in order for us not to be stress with the price fluctuations and perhaps we may see around $5000-$7000 at the end of the month.

[Dhaaaw]

A very poorly made vote i actually see that bitcoin needs to drop to 2k before this year's end just to fix its loose ends and you can't quitely predict bitcoin price on a 24h sample the real sample that should be taken into consideration is every 125 days.

[endlasuresh]

A very poorly made vote i actually see that bitcoin needs to drop to 2k before this year's end just to fix its loose ends and you can't quitely predict bitcoin price on a 24h sample the real sample that should be taken into consideration is every 125 days.

I agree on your post as it should have some drops, but I think it wont happen. Bitcoin prices are more different for every few minutes and it may fall or arise in few hundreds.

[cuculatoeggekeenam]

bitcoin is very unpredictable, because around the 3rd month the price is going to go down but it's amazingly up 100%, and now it suddenly drops drastically due to the chinese exit role of bitcoin, but now the prices start back to normal even though not yet, and december could be bitcoin could break into $ 5500 according to me.

[memephistopheles]

bitcoin is very unpredictable, because around the 3rd month the price is going to go down but it's amazingly up 100%, and now it suddenly drops drastically due to the chinese exit role of bitcoin, but now the prices start back to normal even though not yet, and december could be bitcoin could break into $ 5500 according to me.

$5500? We already have ATH at $5000, I think $8000 by december is easy.

[au2man]

I DONT KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THIS MSG BITCOIN WILL BE NO CHINA
I CAN TELL YOU A TRUTH AFTER OKCOIN BTCC .....THOSE EHCHANGE CLOSED RMB MARKET
THE NEXT DAY  IN HONGKONG OR ANY OHTER PLACE  THEY WILL OPEN ANOTHER OKKKKCOIN OR BTCCCCC
THE SAME TIMES CHINESE OTC MARKET WILL RUNNING BY PRIVATE BUYERS ,THEY WILL GIVE LOCAL MINER FRESH BLOOD
SO IF ONE DAY BITCOIN NO CHINESE INSIDE THIS BUSINESS IS THE DAY BITCOIN BRAKE UP AND NO PROFIT ANYMORE!!!!!!!

[Zuilhsa]

Despite the uncertainty in the Chinese bitcoin market, bitcoin had came to a stable position now, the price has recovered slowly and attained $3800 mark. Today Bitcoin analysts has emphasized a short term price target of $6000, so most probably we can expect $5000 by the end of this year.

[bitcoinjames6]

I am not commenting on where the price is going to go - but one thing that is positive is that all of the recent big news should be priced into the market at this point. There were declines, but recoveries, and it never went horribly low. It is good to see bitcoin's resiliency in this.

[MRlong]

all people who have btc don't sell in any case(only if you want to rebuy) by smaller price-all these actions are doing only by one goal-buy cheap btc by you. In my opinion in few month the price will again 5 k and more.

But as you can see , bitcoin need more time if bitcoin value want to reach back into initial value $ 4300 because China also hold global market around the world. About $ 5000 in a few month, it's still impossible since there is still some negative issue especially about bitcoin negative impact

If Bitcoin want to keeps its value at $5,000 in few months, it need to creates a strong support price first. As before it breakout $3,000 and increases to $4,000 it has a strong support around $2,500 - 2,700 price range.

[flag39]

As a rule of thumb, something prohibited becomes more desirable and in turn becomes more expansive for Chinese users, who will still be there and find a way around to trade. In December i think BTC will pass 5000 USD

[lalabotax]

yes bitcoin is heading to moon, china is only part of the past.
bitcoin has proven to the world, bitcoin can survive despite the various problems. but bitcoin still shows its quality.

[FasTroy]

Yes It just a matter of time, Bitcoin will increase again soon and it will be going to the moon. No more problems.
I assure to you all that Bitcoin will increase in the near future and achieve the 5000$. We talk about few weeks no more. I hope that in the first of 2018 Bitcoin price will be more than 6000$.

[pucunghul]

many regret not buying bitcoin on yesterday's decline. I think so, many people are hesitant to buy. but now the bitcoin is expensive again. this benefits me personally. and china is just a story of the past that we have forgotten.

[eaLiTy]

Despite the uncertainty in the Chinese bitcoin market, bitcoin had came to a stable position now, the price has recovered slowly and attained $3800 mark. Today Bitcoin analysts has emphasized a short term price target of $6000, so most probably we can expect $5000 by the end of this year.

It is not that easy to predict the market after a good one year where we saw the price climb many thousand dollars,with all the regulation news coming out i doubt we will see any rapid growth in price by the end of this year but we will see some recover in price and will be above four thousand by the end of this year until everything is sorted out.

[random8888]

I believe we will be seeing $5000 again by the end of December. We will be seeing more new ATHs in 2018 more likely!

[WatchMaker]

The problem is chinese guys owns nearly half of the cryptocurrency market, but we need them unfortunately.

[farhaan]

I think that the dragon era has almost come to an end in bitcoin.Despite china's strict actions against bitcoin,it has successfully recovered from the slight price fall.Once,bitcoiners were very much afraid of china since it had the lion's share of total number of bitcoins and it dominated the bitcoin market.We could not easily forget the days when big whales from china used to dump their high volume of bitcoins for manipulating the price.But now,price has very well increased.This shows that bitcoin has user base all over the world.Bitcoin is no more in need of china for its progress.Soon,dragon would go to its final stage of breath in bitcoin.

[DoublerHunter]

I think that the dragon era has almost come to an end in bitcoin.Despite china's strict actions against bitcoin,it has successfully recovered from the slight price fall.This shows that bitcoin has user base all over the world.Bitcoin is no more in need of china for its progress.

Bitcoin has a lot of supporters from almost all over the parts of the world because bitcoin is getting more famous than before and even there will be no china behind our back to support bitcoin, bitcoin can still do it to the moon because there are countries like Japan who is ready to do help us to make bitcoin's price to the moon and make its users happy.

[cpfreeplz]

The dip was way overly drastic because every day trader and their dog was shorting bitcoins and selling like mad. It's a snowball affect and it triggers stop losses galore.

The rise was just a correction from falling too quickly for no reason but I wouldn't expect a bull run just yet.

[pekingcoepo]

Despite the uncertainty in the Chinese bitcoin market, bitcoin had came to a stable position now, the price has recovered slowly and attained $3800 mark. Today Bitcoin analysts has emphasized a short term price target of $6000, so most probably we can expect $5000 by the end of this year.

Looking at Bitcoin prices in September under $ 4000, I think by the end of this year, Bitcoin's price could reach $ 5000 see a lot of positive problems after problems from china.

[MrCrank]

I think Bitcoin will be Above $6000.
Today Bitcoin price $3715..
No China no problem  very funny
My opinion that China can't ban bitcoin.

[pairinpay]

I think the price of bitcoin will become above 6,000 USD in the future because of the demand that is coming back and the market of bitcoin is getting stronger, keep calm condition down i can selling when high power

[ici_lemmy]

5000$ at the end of this year is best. price is recovering now. So if dont have bad news coming everything will be ok

[haroldtee]

The thing is that China or no China, a single country cannot just have a huge effect on bitcoin in the long run. Most Chinese traders are gradually shifting to Japanese market since it has become more favourable and before we see soon, support will strike back. Though, we cannot really know now how quick the rapid trip to the moon will be which will absolutely depend on the market movement as time goes on. All I am sure of now is we are most definitely getting past $4000 but one thing with bitcoin so far is that when it is ready to break out, it does it in a very bullish way, so possibility of $5000 looks bright.

[Aaroenz0r]

China trader still can control bitcon price now. so it is still dangerous because we dont known what they want to do next

[raymart0720]

I think between 4k to 5k cross mark

the china has big impact in bitcoin today
we never knew where and when it will rise again
yess it is true that it will rise again but it will take time to reach 4k peak point of BTC
if that continues t happen investors will afraid and to sell and not to use BTC anymore
that is one of disadvantage of BTC but for now I am looking and Hopefully that these is true and the recovery of bitcoin value

[tengek37]

While there are still many traders and excenders interested in bitcoin, no chinese bitcoin will not be destroyed, this is a new opportunity for newcomers who previously did not get the place because China is still joining.

[ethereumhunter]

i think bitcoin will reach more than $5k in december and there are no worried if finally china is not allow people for using bitcoin because we still have many chance in many country. i am sure that in next few month, there will more people know that bitcoin is something that they should know. the price is slowly to increase and maybe waiting for the end of this month and i hope in next month, the price won't stop to increase more and reach new price.

[glowing10]

While there are still many traders and excenders interested in bitcoin, no chinese bitcoin will not be destroyed, this is a new opportunity for newcomers who previously did not get the place because China is still joining.

I think China is still an important country for Bitcoin because of the volume which they do as of now we do no have any other country to match other than US and Japan . So out of 3 countries of 1 goes away then the selling pressure will be more and prices will certainly drop to some extent which is not a good thing for the market .

[moataz_ansary]

I see bitcoin should hit 10000 $ in next months
But it may retest 3000 - 3200 $ before going to the moon

[pikebu]

“China Has No Real Effect on the Future of Bitcoin”, According to Bitcoin Pioneer… https://t.co/OhHdjB20Hw
Charlie Shrem, a bitcoin pioneer and the head of business development at popular cryptocurrency wallet platform operator Jaxx, stated that China has no real effect on the future of bitcoin.

Shrem wrote:

“This China FUD is playing on all your fear, uncertainty and doubt. China has no real effect on the future of bitcoin. Bitcoin is about censorship free and an alternative non govt controlled financial system. China’s relevancy is diminishing by the day. They overplayed their hand and there is a reason they are being ambiguous. The only power they have over bitcoin is the power you give them. Bitcoin puts a financial system back in our control.” to the moon.....

[hugoworld]

Ofcourse.. Disable china market doesn't mean all the chinese who "play" bitcoins can't trade in another market..
They moved to another market and the price will be high again or more.

I completely perfectly agree with your ideas. Chinese bitcoin traders must play in another bitcoin market and as a result of this, other trading areas are now more powerful and more money-maker than chinese ones.

[redsun114]

Recently, bitcoin demonstrates the possibility of its development and without China. Now the rate of bitcoin is 4 004 dollars. It can be assumed that bitcoin will not drop more, and the path for its growth is open.

It is the ancient saying that if one door closes another one has to open and as china is gone Japan,Korea and India has joined the trade and the many other ways to earn and trade so china doesn’t matter now he will suffer his decision and will come back again this is just a motive to take bitcoin down but it is not so easy.

[Streamlink]

I'm happy to see recovering fast but i don't think China is going anywhere. China just aims to regulate market and kick out scammers. I think it's better now.

If China was aiming at this and this is the reason they banned some ICOs and exchanges, then I think we should support them. Anyhow the best thing is that bitcoins are recovering their prices and are more likely to be at 5k dollars or more by the end of this year. I am happy for holding my bitcoins in the last weeks.

[carlisle1]

I'm happy to see recovering fast but i don't think China is going anywhere. China just aims to regulate market and kick out scammers. I think it's better now.

If China was aiming at this and this is the reason they banned some ICOs and exchanges, then I think we should support them. Anyhow the best thing is that bitcoins are recovering their prices and are more likely to be at 5k dollars or more by the end of this year. I am happy for holding my bitcoins in the last weeks.

its really not anymore with china its the support that bitcoin lovers are showing now, despite of this corrections that happen from two previous week
glad we are now seeing 4k mark again and if this will hold before this month end we will see some good position again coming oct.

[justdimin]

I see bitcoin should hit 10000 $ in next months
But it may retest 3000 - 3200 $ before going to the moon

As we see that the world market is holding by mostly Chinese products and how it is possible that if want to buy Chinese product and will pay in bitcoin if they have nothing to do with bitcoin. It is a serious case and we should think about it. I think that China has great effect on bitcoin, not only mining but also in the big markets throughout the world. What will we do if China regrets bitcoin?

[Sengoko]

I think the price of bitcoin will become above 6,000 USD in the future because of the demand that is coming back and the market of bitcoin is getting stronger, keep calm condition down i can selling when high power

For last few weeks, bitcoin has been going through real hard times but I am happy that there are still a huge number of people who are investing in bitcoins and didn't sell out their asset during the fall down. They will be earning ample profits before December and my guess is BTCs will touch 6k dollars before last month of this year.

[pikebu]

Ofcourse.. Disable china market doesn't mean all the chinese who "play" bitcoins can't trade in another market..
They moved to another market and the price will be high again or more.

I completely perfectly agree with your ideas. Chinese bitcoin traders must play in another bitcoin market and as a result of this, other trading areas are now more powerful and more money-maker than chinese ones.

Bitcoin may be Considered Virtual Property Under new Chinese Regulation: http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/09/30/bitcoin-may-considered-virtual-property-new-chinese-regulation/ MEH... they are always make rumors of bitcoin it was successfull crashed price of bitcoin, now they make another rumors for bitcoin.