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September 19, 2017, 04:06:21 AM
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As quite a few of you gamble in cryptos casinos from countries where gambling is forbidden, I was wondering if you use TOR to hide your identity. Or if you use it as well, even if you don’t gamble, to avoid your movements being traced when operating with btc and other cryptocurrencies.

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September 19, 2017, 07:04:53 AM
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Is this possible if u done a lot of transactions with one address in your electrum wallet and then want your future transactions to be anonymous?


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September 19, 2017, 07:20:58 AM
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As quite a few of you gamble in cryptos casinos from countries where gambling is forbidden, I was wondering if you use TOR to hide your identity. Or if you use it as well, even if you don’t gamble, to avoid your movements being traced when operating with btc and other cryptocurrencies.

I've used TOR before, but I don't really dabble much in the darknet market scene, so I don't have much use for it. In most cases, I'd prefer to use a no-log VPN (or TOR browser in conjunction with a no-log VPN).

Is this possible if u done a lot of transactions with one address in your electrum wallet and then want your future transactions to be anonymous?

TOR isn't enough to make your transactions anonymous. It's pretty well known by now that governments and law enforcement agencies are running a lot of TOR exit nodes, monitoring activity. The best option for anonymity we have right now is Monero.

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September 19, 2017, 09:53:22 AM
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And mixer of bitcoin it's good for anonymous transactions?
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September 19, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
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Is this possible if u done a lot of transactions with one address in your electrum wallet and then want your future transactions to be anonymous?

And mixer of bitcoin it's good for anonymous transactions?

Using TOR to send your Bitcoin transactions will improve your privacy, but is only one factor.

The main problem with Bitcoin transactions and anonymity is less about whether you used TOR or not when sending the transaction, but rather that Bitcoin transactions themselves are easily traceable. So if you want to improve the privacy of your future transactions, it is recommended to send your coins to a mixer and from there move them to a new wallet (with a whole different set of addresses).

And then, of course, there's Monero. Not as widely accepted, but a good choice for privacy conscious transactions.

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September 19, 2017, 06:23:44 PM
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I tried it out of curiosity once. I found it borderline unusable but of course there are sound reasons for that. I don't see how it could be viable for fast moving stuff like trading or gambling.

And I've heard so much about TOR honeypots and leaking IPs that I'd never have full faith in it anyway. It's always going to be the number one target for cracking. On top of that I don't really give a shit about anonymity. If I did it's almost certain I blew that years ago.
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September 19, 2017, 10:53:23 PM
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Using TOR to send your Bitcoin transactions will improve your privacy, but is only one factor.

The main problem with Bitcoin transactions and anonymity is less about whether you used TOR or not when sending the transaction, but rather that Bitcoin transactions themselves are easily traceable. So if you want to improve the privacy of your future transactions, it is recommended to send your coins to a mixer and from there move them to a new wallet (with a whole different set of addresses).

And then, of course, there's Monero. Not as widely accepted, but a good choice for privacy conscious transactions.

This says it all. You can use TOR, but if there's somebody actually trying to trace you they'll simply sit and wait for you to use an exchange or buy something online.
I haven't heard of a case when an institution would try to use IP address to trace the owner of a bitcoin address. It's much easier to trace it back to an exchange, get the buyer's ID and go from there, or wait for it to end up on an exchange and do the same thing. Even if the person they get to isn't you it might be someone related to you or that you've done business with. 

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September 19, 2017, 11:43:04 PM
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I was very impressed with Verge. To use the wallet you have to open a Tor first.
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September 20, 2017, 12:54:15 AM
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I've done that and done this before,, but I don't think I need to used it again.. In bitcoin I don't see any reason to,, but in deepweb or onion sites they're are tons of reason and not using it is as dumb as selling bitcoin at 2800$ last week.. I mean bitcoin offers anonymity but do we really need much of it when we want the government to regulate it.. We want only to protect ourselves but today it is our government who will need to protect us,, but hiding our identity to them won't helped them..

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September 20, 2017, 03:06:07 AM
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As quite a few of you gamble in cryptos casinos from countries where gambling is forbidden, I was wondering if you use TOR to hide your identity. Or if you use it as well, even if you don’t gamble, to avoid your movements being traced when operating with btc and other cryptocurrencies.

tor is a good option if gambling is blocked on your country  by doing it you can acces those restricted sites and gambling sites also you can use vpn or virtual private network , this is like tor and also hides or change your ip address to a diferent country depending on the proxy you use. in my case i use tor only when accesing the deepweb or darkweb.
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September 20, 2017, 06:00:24 AM
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I don't gamble nor use tor. I do however use a VPN to guarantee the safety of my ip address. But think about it there's a reason gambling is forbidden in certain countries. Just don't gamble, especially with bitcoins. You will regret it in 10 years.
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September 20, 2017, 07:04:32 AM
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Using TOR to send your Bitcoin transactions will improve your privacy, but is only one factor.

The main problem with Bitcoin transactions and anonymity is less about whether you used TOR or not when sending the transaction, but rather that Bitcoin transactions themselves are easily traceable. So if you want to improve the privacy of your future transactions, it is recommended to send your coins to a mixer and from there move them to a new wallet (with a whole different set of addresses).

And then, of course, there's Monero. Not as widely accepted, but a good choice for privacy conscious transactions.

This says it all. You can use TOR, but if there's somebody actually trying to trace you they'll simply sit and wait for you to use an exchange or buy something online.
I haven't heard of a case when an institution would try to use IP address to trace the owner of a bitcoin address. It's much easier to trace it back to an exchange, get the buyer's ID and go from there, or wait for it to end up on an exchange and do the same thing. Even if the person they get to isn't you it might be someone related to you or that you've done business with. 

Yeah, obviously TOR is only one tool; it doesn't ensure anonymity at all. But between a no-log VPN+TOR to mask your IP address, and Bitcoin services that don't do KYC, you are certainly not low hanging fruit and are likely untraceable, as long as you are careful to continually cycle through new IP addresses and analyze your coins to ensure you've lost the taint.

Smaller services will sometimes send your coins right back to you, so be careful to analyze your own taint if you want to avoid the cost of using mixers. I've always been paranoid of mixers, worried that I'll get back dirtier coins than I put in. Tongue

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September 20, 2017, 01:36:25 PM
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TOR browser is not always helpful; you simply won't be able to access some websites if you use it, so it depends more on your country's legal regulations of the internet and cryptocurrencies.
Also note that state regulations might differ in different countries regarding gambling and regarding Bitcoin (Bitcoin might be legal, while gambling isn't, for example).
Anyway, using Tor doesn't really give you absolute anonymity online, it's more of a myth  Undecided 
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September 20, 2017, 04:21:21 PM
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Using TOR to send your Bitcoin transactions will improve your privacy, but is only one factor.

The main problem with Bitcoin transactions and anonymity is less about whether you used TOR or not when sending the transaction, but rather that Bitcoin transactions themselves are easily traceable. So if you want to improve the privacy of your future transactions, it is recommended to send your coins to a mixer and from there move them to a new wallet (with a whole different set of addresses).

And then, of course, there's Monero. Not as widely accepted, but a good choice for privacy conscious transactions.

This says it all. You can use TOR, but if there's somebody actually trying to trace you they'll simply sit and wait for you to use an exchange or buy something online.
I haven't heard of a case when an institution would try to use IP address to trace the owner of a bitcoin address. It's much easier to trace it back to an exchange, get the buyer's ID and go from there, or wait for it to end up on an exchange and do the same thing. Even if the person they get to isn't you it might be someone related to you or that you've done business with. 

Exactly. Obfuscating your IP address is pointless if at the end of the line you have a physical address or a bank account with your name on it. However where there is no such private data available, it is still imaginable that exchanges could be asked to hand over your IP address. For these cases TOR is definitely useful.

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September 20, 2017, 06:58:35 PM
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Using TOR to send your Bitcoin transactions will improve your privacy, but is only one factor.

The main problem with Bitcoin transactions and anonymity is less about whether you used TOR or not when sending the transaction, but rather that Bitcoin transactions themselves are easily traceable. So if you want to improve the privacy of your future transactions, it is recommended to send your coins to a mixer and from there move them to a new wallet (with a whole different set of addresses).

And then, of course, there's Monero. Not as widely accepted, but a good choice for privacy conscious transactions.

This says it all. You can use TOR, but if there's somebody actually trying to trace you they'll simply sit and wait for you to use an exchange or buy something online.
I haven't heard of a case when an institution would try to use IP address to trace the owner of a bitcoin address. It's much easier to trace it back to an exchange, get the buyer's ID and go from there, or wait for it to end up on an exchange and do the same thing. Even if the person they get to isn't you it might be someone related to you or that you've done business with. 

Exactly. Obfuscating your IP address is pointless if at the end of the line you have a physical address or a bank account with your name on it. However where there is no such private data available, it is still imaginable that exchanges could be asked to hand over your IP address. For these cases TOR is definitely useful.


I was thinking of that scenario as well. Some exchanges I’ve seen are based in EU countries, like Germany and UK, so I suppose they would provide that info. Although I think that would only be the case as for individual requirements of certain persons being investigated by authorities.

When it comes to provide data from all users, I think if governments pass laws on regulation in the future and exchanges are required to provide that data, it is quite likely that they will start providing it after regulation, the same way as it happened with gambling sites regulation.

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Exactly. Obfuscating your IP address is pointless if at the end of the line you have a physical address or a bank account with your name on it. However where there is no such private data available, it is still imaginable that exchanges could be asked to hand over your IP address. For these cases TOR is definitely useful.

I was thinking of that scenario as well. Some exchanges I’ve seen are based in EU countries, like Germany and UK, so I suppose they would provide that info. Although I think that would only be the case as for individual requirements of certain persons being investigated by authorities.

When it comes to provide data from all users, I think if governments pass laws on regulation in the future and exchanges are required to provide that data, it is quite likely that they will start providing it after regulation, the same way as it happened with gambling sites regulation.

I'm pretty sure that non-EU and non-US exchanges would also cooperate with law enforcements if the right agencies came knocking. Even if the exchanges don't cooperate there's always the chance of servers getting seized and logs being analyzed. However that would be the extreme cases, I suppose.

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I've been able to find everything I'm looking for on the normal web, and I've never had a problem with betting. So far, I've used Tor at the first sign-off, it's a slow, cumbersome browser, then I deleted it.

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September 24, 2017, 04:56:25 AM
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Before I've used Tor for bad intentions and because of curiousity on how does deepweb differ from what is filtered on the surface. I have seen much evil that im not gonna go back again. If you're in a country that restrict gambling online, I think vpn is enough that my friend does the same. Tor network won't insure anonymity or any kind of virtual private network won't help you hide your true identity if in your own your not careful with it. Bitcoin address is highly traceable and if without proper mixing of address and vpn it won't work. A simple mistake will trigger more damage that you won't know.
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Before I've used Tor for bad intentions and because of curiousity on how does deepweb differ from what is filtered on the surface. I have seen much evil that im not gonna go back again. If you're in a country that restrict gambling online, I think vpn is enough that my friend does the same. Tor network won't insure anonymity or any kind of virtual private network won't help you hide your true identity if in your own your not careful with it. Bitcoin address is highly traceable and if without proper mixing of address and vpn it won't work. A simple mistake will trigger more damage that you won't know.

LMAO  Cheesy Cheesy Grin I saw some shit I cant unsee as well.


Its been a while since ive taken a dive on Tor. for one, its slow as fuck for me usually, im on a metered connection that sucks and tor struggles at best. but mainly, there is nothing of substance on tor. not really into child porn or dark markets, and thats pretty much the whole of it, from my experience. its pretty much poison because people dont use that hidden space to share esoteric knowledge; they use it to persue corruption and mammon. we get another library of alexandria, and we use it to sell pot for digital currency  Undecided
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September 25, 2017, 12:46:49 AM
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Before I've used Tor for bad intentions and because of curiousity on how does deepweb differ from what is filtered on the surface. I have seen much evil that im not gonna go back again. If you're in a country that restrict gambling online, I think vpn is enough that my friend does the same. Tor network won't insure anonymity or any kind of virtual private network won't help you hide your true identity if in your own your not careful with it. Bitcoin address is highly traceable and if without proper mixing of address and vpn it won't work. A simple mistake will trigger more damage that you won't know.

LMAO  Cheesy Cheesy Grin I saw some shit I cant unsee as well.


Its been a while since ive taken a dive on Tor. for one, its slow as fuck for me usually, im on a metered connection that sucks and tor struggles at best. but mainly, there is nothing of substance on tor. not really into child porn or dark markets, and thats pretty much the whole of it, from my experience. its pretty much poison because people dont use that hidden space to share esoteric knowledge; they use it to persue corruption and mammon. we get another library of alexandria, and we use it to sell pot for digital currency  Undecided

That's horible, deepweb is like a demon nest below the church(internet). I can't even used my own camera on that sites, those being sold are too much to swallow. Those sites should remain under because as human I don't want my children and other innocent one be aware of how evil can this world we're living in. Using tor in deepweb is not a child play to begin with and hope they know what the consequences when doing so. But using Tor outside deepweb is okay with me.
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