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September 21, 2017, 08:11:15 PM |
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If there are no taxes then everyone must have a role that person must fulfill in order for that to work. Knowing how people really behave that is possible only in theory. Someone would just feel lazy in practice
Taxes will be implied to the society because that's the aim for the country leaders to collect from the established business, so that the funds will be used for the improvement of the countries growing economy. Not just in theory but in reality people will behave in the same manner that implementing tax free society can be with exception and not into the general terms and conditions.
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September 21, 2017, 08:22:23 PM |
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of course, if I can imagining a taxless and free society is always what I have imagined when I first saw bitcoin on the market but it's not what it seems bitcoins need to improve a lot or I can say in other words bitcoin is still not prepared for handling our entire population. people should not always depend on just one cryptocurrency they should try on other currencies too. they can save you 10 times more fees than bitcoin.
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September 21, 2017, 08:24:01 PM |
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most people who hates taxes are the one who does not understand how it works and why it should exist. the idea of taxless society is good but it will never be successful since taxes are always present in a state, it is the life and blood of a country in order to sustain operating expenses, keep the safety of its citizen, and to secure the land to invasion.
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September 21, 2017, 08:26:28 PM |
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Taxes aren't always a bad thing. We need taxes to support the economy and develop it. Bitcoin would be a better vehicle in a faster, more efficient society.
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September 21, 2017, 08:26:48 PM Last edit: September 22, 2017, 01:33:32 AM by olushakes |
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Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia. Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xwsWhat do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested? There is no way a completely free society can be achieved because when there is absolute freedom, people tend to abuse it. Buying an island means you need to be concerned about the justice syatem because we all have reasons to disagree, the police for security reasons, leadership because any society will need a leader to lead them. If he wants to buy, he should better go enjoy it himself as 3 to 10years from now is not achievable.
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September 21, 2017, 08:32:13 PM |
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If they build a taxless society in a way of large enclosed area, and somehow manage to come to terms with the original owner ( the government) to pay enough for it that the land will become free of property tax for another x years (1000? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) they will still have to gather money from the citizens to finance commonly used things like power plants, that's unless they decide all citizens are on their own. Having a shared sewage and water treatment, power generator and so on is much cheaper and more efficient. My 50cents (15c actually...)
We don't deduct tax in here. The actual power of your 50c post is 50c ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Also, I agree with all that you've posted. We shouldn't seek a taxless society, but one where taxes are low and simple to understand. I'd be completely fine with paying a fixed amount each year for the things I'm sharing with others, like roads, hospitals, fire dept, but I'm not fine with being taxed multiple times on every step.
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September 21, 2017, 08:49:34 PM |
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If they build a taxless society in a way of large enclosed area, and somehow manage to come to terms with the original owner ( the government) to pay enough for it that the land will become free of property tax for another x years (1000? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) they will still have to gather money from the citizens to finance commonly used things like power plants, that's unless they decide all citizens are on their own. Having a shared sewage and water treatment, power generator and so on is much cheaper and more efficient. My 50cents (15c actually...)
We don't deduct tax in here. The actual power of your 50c post is 50c ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Also, I agree with all that you've posted. We shouldn't seek a taxless society, but one where taxes are low and simple to understand. I'd be completely fine with paying a fixed amount each year for the things I'm sharing with others, like roads, hospitals, fire dept, but I'm not fine with being taxed multiple times on every step. Thx for the tax not deducted ;-) Taxing bitcoin profits is probably a good thing if we want mass adoption. Giving 20% on my x100 profits... I am OK with that.
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September 21, 2017, 08:57:24 PM |
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How do you think the country is going to get enough revenue to develop its self and public services? Removing tax is going to hamper development. You need to find an alternative solution for this.
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September 21, 2017, 11:14:53 PM |
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Tax is not a bad thing. Because as a good citizen we have to pay taxes. Because the taxes have also been set according to the income earned. All that is to help the country's economy to grow and be independent. I think that needs to be in the fight is koruptornya. Where the government's way of fighting corrupt.Suhaya tax can be used according to the procedure.
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September 21, 2017, 11:21:15 PM |
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If they can buy a big land and regulate it as they want, it maybe a good way for them to live freely from taxes. But it should be established outside the territory of a country, as govs could claim to collect the tax from their land. US or Europe area isn't a good option to avoid taxes, so they may choose a land in the middle of nowhere in Asia continent.
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September 21, 2017, 11:48:38 PM |
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Perhaps we are judging too soon what taxless means. For a functional group of individuals to live together, let's say in an apartment, there must still be some collective activity to maintain the household and pay for common goods. Everyone otherwise works in their own self interest and would rather get the other person to lay while enjoying the outcome.
It might not be called tax but some form of funding mechanism is needed to pay for public goods, if not the society will soon crumble under its own weight due to poor maintenance and lack of public utilities.
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September 21, 2017, 11:55:45 PM |
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This is an incredibly poor idea. It will turn into Lord of the Flies in seconds.
Id rather see tax advantages for BTC in developed countries like the recent proposal for transactions under $600 to be tax free.
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September 21, 2017, 11:59:13 PM |
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I will not move to that country because I love my country so much. I was born in my country, my relatives and friends are in my country. my memories are very much in my country.
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September 21, 2017, 11:59:59 PM |
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Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia. Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xwsWhat do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested? Roger Ver saying something and you're taking it serious, interesting. Obviously knows, it's impossible to build tax free, rich society since governments will never let this happen.
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September 22, 2017, 12:11:38 AM |
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Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia. Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xwsWhat do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested? I don't know if that is possible, countries that are tax free are those with huge oil supplies like Brunei among others and I don't know what is Roger Ver's definition of free society, there's no such things as free in any country but it's an interesting idea, let's see if it materialize.
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September 22, 2017, 12:25:46 AM |
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If there are no taxes then everyone must have a role that person must fulfill in order for that to work. Knowing how people really behave that is possible only in theory. Someone would just feel lazy in practice
Yes it is and that would really happen if there is no tax on that society they do that just because they hate tax but they dont think some possibilities of paying taxes if they asked me about yhis my decisions are no i dont want to live on that society.
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September 22, 2017, 12:35:56 AM |
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If we were to pursue a taxless society, how is the country going to develop? Taxes pay for just about everything from roads, schools, police, etc.
it is true to be a good citizen we are obliged to pay taxes, many developing country countries that have implemented the tax system for the country to be better and can continue to grow. so I do not agree with a country that is free to buy something let alone the land.
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September 22, 2017, 12:55:29 AM |
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Well, taxless, I don't think so. In my country so many rich ppl are running from paying taxes. So if it's really true, then it was like giving them a chance to run even further. It's also for its country, too, none else. For its improvement such as economic growth, environment, etc. So it could be a better country.
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September 22, 2017, 02:13:08 AM |
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if this happen in a country everything will fall apart. with no tax government can't fanction and government will gone. the rich will rule for sure because they can do whatever they want.
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September 22, 2017, 02:18:24 AM |
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This has been brought up so many times but who the hell is going to pay for infrastructure? Hospitals? What if you break your leg? You just get shot and life moves on? Idk, I'm skeptical that it could ever work unless the 'government' in this country is invested in cryptocurrency and everything is bought with the interest made from them.
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