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August 13, 2018, 02:30:12 AM
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
The community is interested in observing the timing of the road map, this is an indicator of a successful project, and for me as well. And why did you decide that the team would not buy their tokens. I have not heard such statements.

Why do they need to buy it? Those are only for a team who are only focused on the price not the value of their project. Yes, they are totally focused on their roadmap and I know that they will deliver results in the future.

Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
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August 13, 2018, 07:11:04 AM
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Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
Good point it is very difficult if not unreasonable to judge a tokens true value when in a large bear market and also the product itself is still under development. 


I really am impressed with the idea and concept and have invested a small amount, but what I would like to know from the Developers is how INS will likely influence the retailers position in the market place? For example if I can purchase XXX product from a Supermarket for say $20 but from INS through the manufacturer or supplier for only $14, obviously I am going to go with the cheaper option, but how will this affect the relationship between Supplier and retailer if the supplier is seen to be undercutting the retailer, wouldn't the retailer then dump the supplier for another one who is not undercutting them?


Interested to hear what strategies are in place for the above mentioned scenario.


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August 13, 2018, 08:47:29 AM
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Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
Good point it is very difficult if not unreasonable to judge a tokens true value when in a large bear market and also the product itself is still under development. 


I really am impressed with the idea and concept and have invested a small amount, but what I would like to know from the Developers is how INS will likely influence the retailers position in the market place? For example if I can purchase XXX product from a Supermarket for say $20 but from INS through the manufacturer or supplier for only $14, obviously I am going to go with the cheaper option, but how will this affect the relationship between Supplier and retailer if the supplier is seen to be undercutting the retailer, wouldn't the retailer then dump the supplier for another one who is not undercutting them?


Interested to hear what strategies are in place for the above mentioned scenario.


Well, many people told that self-driving cars will replace taxi drivers from the market but as we can see today it's a very long way and it won't happened even in 2-3 years. The same in grocery shopping. We are going to launch step by step and can't take away big retailer's market share in a short period of time. There is no guarantee that retailers will disappear from the market at all. For the first time it won't affect affect the relationship between manufacturer and retailer at all. What is going to be after, we'll see. Obviously retailers also have some technology and marketing developing plans and will not give up.
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August 13, 2018, 10:26:48 AM
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Hey, great project! Do you guys think the price will be even lower of INS? It is a great price right now, maybe the weekend will bring some movement.
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August 13, 2018, 11:01:43 AM
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
The community is interested in observing the timing of the road map, this is an indicator of a successful project, and for me as well. And why did you decide that the team would not buy their tokens. I have not heard such statements.

Why do they need to buy it? Those are only for a team who are only focused on the price not the value of their project. Yes, they are totally focused on their roadmap and I know that they will deliver results in the future.

Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.

Don't you think that this bearish market gave us the real prices of those altcoins/tokens? Even now most of them are overvalued - no working product, no user base, no demand...
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August 13, 2018, 11:57:50 AM
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Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
Good point it is very difficult if not unreasonable to judge a tokens true value when in a large bear market and also the product itself is still under development. 


I really am impressed with the idea and concept and have invested a small amount, but what I would like to know from the Developers is how INS will likely influence the retailers position in the market place? For example if I can purchase XXX product from a Supermarket for say $20 but from INS through the manufacturer or supplier for only $14, obviously I am going to go with the cheaper option, but how will this affect the relationship between Supplier and retailer if the supplier is seen to be undercutting the retailer, wouldn't the retailer then dump the supplier for another one who is not undercutting them?


Interested to hear what strategies are in place for the above mentioned scenario.


Well, many people told that self-driving cars will replace taxi drivers from the market but as we can see today it's a very long way and it won't happened even in 2-3 years. The same in grocery shopping. We are going to launch step by step and can't take away big retailer's market share in a short period of time. There is no guarantee that retailers will disappear from the market at all. For the first time it won't affect affect the relationship between manufacturer and retailer at all. What is going to be after, we'll see. Obviously retailers also have some technology and marketing developing plans and will not give up.
Hi, I think you misunderstood my point, I am not suggesting that INS would take away the big or small retailers market but I am saying that suppliers/manufactures will not want to upset the apple cart by undercutting their retail partners, so unless it is on-line only sales products, I am still curious as to how you plan to have large suppliers and manufacturer's on board when they do not want to clash with their bread and butter, that being of course, the retailers. 


The reason I asked the original question was that I could not see that point addressed in the Whitepaper, and clearly you have not given it much time either, which is a little disappointing considering the fact that you have had plenty of time to think of that potential scenario or obstacle.


Did you do a SWAT analysis or Viability Assessment and look for threats or weaknesses when you were spit-balling the finer details?


I expected (was actually hoping as I am invested in INS) that you would come back with a pre-discussed remedy or plan regarding the infiltration of suppliers while at the same time making sure their retail customers do not suffer.   Something along the lines of for every INS intiated sale by the supplier/manufacturer direct to the public the retailer will receive xxx INS as compensation or a rebate from the supplier, or other benefit. 


You have to keep both sides happy man so I hope you guys come up with a plan for doing so, the concept is great and I think it could be very big one-day, but your main obstacle from my POV is going to be retailers and their relationships with their providers.  I hope I am wrong and am happy to be proved wrong about this but unless I am misisng something, I don't know.....

 



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August 13, 2018, 01:28:26 PM
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
they would like to if money they have is unlimited Cheesy
if they run out of money to develop INS project before the ecosystem can work well, the investor will charge them for fraud. they don't guarantee or make a promise that you can make money if you buy INS token. they need money to build to run this project, so don't ask for something stupid just to make it easier for you to make money
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August 13, 2018, 01:40:57 PM
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Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
Good point it is very difficult if not unreasonable to judge a tokens true value when in a large bear market and also the product itself is still under development. 


I really am impressed with the idea and concept and have invested a small amount, but what I would like to know from the Developers is how INS will likely influence the retailers position in the market place? For example if I can purchase XXX product from a Supermarket for say $20 but from INS through the manufacturer or supplier for only $14, obviously I am going to go with the cheaper option, but how will this affect the relationship between Supplier and retailer if the supplier is seen to be undercutting the retailer, wouldn't the retailer then dump the supplier for another one who is not undercutting them?


Interested to hear what strategies are in place for the above mentioned scenario.


Well, many people told that self-driving cars will replace taxi drivers from the market but as we can see today it's a very long way and it won't happened even in 2-3 years. The same in grocery shopping. We are going to launch step by step and can't take away big retailer's market share in a short period of time. There is no guarantee that retailers will disappear from the market at all. For the first time it won't affect affect the relationship between manufacturer and retailer at all. What is going to be after, we'll see. Obviously retailers also have some technology and marketing developing plans and will not give up.
Hi, I think you misunderstood my point, I am not suggesting that INS would take away the big or small retailers market but I am saying that suppliers/manufactures will not want to upset the apple cart by undercutting their retail partners, so unless it is on-line only sales products, I am still curious as to how you plan to have large suppliers and manufacturer's on board when they do not want to clash with their bread and butter, that being of course, the retailers. 


The reason I asked the original question was that I could not see that point addressed in the Whitepaper, and clearly you have not given it much time either, which is a little disappointing considering the fact that you have had plenty of time to think of that potential scenario or obstacle.


Did you do a SWAT analysis or Viability Assessment and look for threats or weaknesses when you were spit-balling the finer details?


I expected (was actually hoping as I am invested in INS) that you would come back with a pre-discussed remedy or plan regarding the infiltration of suppliers while at the same time making sure their retail customers do not suffer.   Something along the lines of for every INS intiated sale by the supplier/manufacturer direct to the public the retailer will receive xxx INS as compensation or a rebate from the supplier, or other benefit. 


You have to keep both sides happy man so I hope you guys come up with a plan for doing so, the concept is great and I think it could be very big one-day, but your main obstacle from my POV is going to be retailers and their relationships with their providers.  I hope I am wrong and am happy to be proved wrong about this but unless I am misisng something, I don't know.....

Everyhthing is more simple than you described. We are not (at least now) multi billion company like some retailers and to work with us manufacturers don't have to make so hard and risky decision. They see some new opportunities they try it. First just a little, then more if it works. 
Manufacturers are ready to try new ways of interacting with customers, moreover many of them want to implement it and think about it for long time.

They can save big promotion budgets. Grocery manufacturers spend up to 17% of their sales on trade promotions. Trade promotions comprise a growing category of manufacturer expenses directed to wholesale and retail distributors rather than to consumers.

They will have the ability to direct interaction with consumers which is extremely valuable today to know more about their buyers preferences.
Mostly we focused on manufactrer's advantages from working with us in WP.

Also please check the footnotes links in the whitepaper for some researches and reports about food retail market. That's the real numbers that helps us to make decisions and of course founder's food retail and consulting experience as well.
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August 14, 2018, 01:35:57 PM
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I think we all waiting next bullrun. Now everything going down, even most promising coins. When market will recovery, INS will hit min 5 usd or more.let's hope that the team will follow the roadmap to see a good demonstration.
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August 15, 2018, 03:26:15 AM
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Manufacturers are ready to try new ways of interacting with customers, moreover many of them want to implement it and think about it for long time.

They can save big promotion budgets. Grocery manufacturers spend up to 17% of their sales on trade promotions. Trade promotions comprise a growing category of manufacturer expenses directed to wholesale and retail distributors rather than to consumers.
I am all for the concept of cutting out the middle man/men (retailers) and for companies to deal direct with the public, especially via Crypto, that would be/will be? game changing but you have still not addressed the fact that if retailers are being cut out of the picture then they lose incentive to stock a suppliers product and can simply switch to a supplier who does not deal directly with the public. 


Many of the larger chain Supermarkets have agreements where the Manufacturers and Suppliers will sell to them provided they do not undercut the retailer by going direct to public.


If you can manage to shift some Manufacturer(s) from Retail to Crypto/online then you will have pulled off one of the most revolutionary moments in Crypto history, I am not saying you cannot or will not be able to do it, just that there is systems in place to protect retailers and agreements between retailers and suppliers. 


If and how INS can overcome those Retail/Manufacturer agreement's then the INS token will be worth a lot of money.


I wish you guys all the best, I am holding a small amount and look forward to seeing how you synergize the finished product with major manufacturer's, I still think however that you need to provide them (the retailers whom they supply) with an incentive to make it worth their while in potentially annoying some retailers where the retailer sees some kind of small benefit for the use of INS, that in itself would see INS become very valuable should the retailers endorse the concept and be able to make money from it.

Good luck to you and the team!! 

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August 15, 2018, 10:08:26 AM
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August 15, 2018, 10:21:57 AM
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⚡️ We are excited to welcome the king of cold brew coffees Sandows on board the #INS!
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August 15, 2018, 10:29:52 AM
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https://blog.ins.world/sandows-joins-ins-direct-to-consumer-movement-b9453cf60a9

This is result of hard work of the team and good sign how bright future will be of this ecosystem. This project is getting very positive response from big companies and it will develop very suitable situation which will push this towards mainstream and adoption will keep growing.
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August 15, 2018, 02:15:57 PM
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I believe there will never be a fully decentralize protocol for blockchain. Life have tradeoffs. (POW / POS / DPOS)What consensus mechanism are you guys using because an excel spreadsheet can be better than a blockchain if slow and not scalable. I am not a tech person but curious.
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August 15, 2018, 02:16:19 PM
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I believe there will never be a fully decentralize protocol for blockchain. Life have tradeoffs. (POW / POS / DPOS)What consensus mechanism are you guys using because an excel spreadsheet can be better than a blockchain if slow and not scalable. I am not a tech person but curious.
How can u compare excel spreadsheet to a blockchain ledger?.....block chain is immutable, whereas excel sheet data can be created and erased at will. This comparison blows my mind.
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August 16, 2018, 04:57:26 AM
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"The INS platform is designed as a very high-load system. The market potential for the INS ecosystem consists of billions of users, each of them making dozens of orders per year." using ETH and bitcoin as payment this is a joke right ?
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"The INS platform is designed as a very high-load system. The market potential for the INS ecosystem consists of billions of users, each of them making dozens of orders per year." using ETH and bitcoin as payment this is a joke right ?

Customers will be able to purchase goods within the platform with BTC, ETH, fiat and INS token. Only gives the customers the complete 100% access to the loyalty and bonus program, that will provide them with huge discounts and distribution of tokens for participating in surveys held by the manufacturers right in their smartphones or on the website.
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August 16, 2018, 05:52:29 PM
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How much will the price increase when the test net is launched?
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August 16, 2018, 07:40:37 PM
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How much will the price increase when the test net is launched?
no one knows that. ins probably will be pumped in next bull market, it might happen before testnet launch.
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August 16, 2018, 07:51:14 PM
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How much will the price increase when the test net is launched?
no one knows that. ins probably will be pumped in next bull market, it might happen before testnet launch.

This is very though question to give any time frame when price will increase especially in bear market. This is test of our patience how long we can survive and can hodl any coin. Agreed with you we have to wait for next bull market.
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