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October 09, 2018, 12:55:46 AM |
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Yeah, down for me too. And Dan just signed off, so it's probably going to be a few hours til he's back to fix it ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) So you don't think it's any kind of exit scheme or hack?
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October 09, 2018, 01:23:48 AM Last edit: October 09, 2018, 05:59:01 AM by sunsilk |
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Is the server down or something? I'm able to access the website but can't do anything (play, invest, etc).
Yeah, down for me too. And Dan just signed off, so it's probably going to be a few hours til he's back to fix it ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) I thought I'm the only one that has issue, I keep on logging in and in the end it only says lost connection to the server. That's why I came here so I hope it will be back again soon. Edit: It's working now. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 09, 2018, 02:03:49 AM |
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Definitely not. The cold-storage is over-funded (funded at >100% it's obligations), hasn't moved and requires 2-of-3 sig to move (of which Daniel only has 1). If Daniel wanted to do an exit-scam, he'd do it on bustabit not bustadice (since bustabit doesn't have an investor protection system like bustadice), but bustabit is up and running like normal. So pretty much guaranteed nothing to worry about. Bustadice actually similarly went down for a few minutes a day ago or something (except he was online to deal with it). At the time he said he thought it was due to some incorrect error handling he found. My guess is that the bug is still there ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Thanks, that all makes sense. I hadn't been on bustabit in a while but it seems they doubled the dilution fee to 2% and then also cut the leverage in half from 4x to 2x since I last visited ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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October 17, 2018, 08:15:06 AM |
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Just saw this "invest" feature on Bustadice website. I have like 0.01 BTC and I think Bustadice might be a safer option to invest. Mainly due to the fact that Yahoo is managing the campaign for a while.
But on the invest page there are two options online and offsite and I am getting a bit confused there. Where do I put my BTC? Also in FAQ it states, "we charge investors a 0.25 % commission on every wager". Why are investors being charged for wagers? Is it wager by players or the investor itself? Totally not getting the idea.
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October 17, 2018, 11:19:24 AM |
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But on the invest page there are two options online and offsite and I am getting a bit confused there. Where do I put my BTC?
Just look at "Overview" on investing page ( https://bustadice.com/invest) - "Onsite bankroll" value constantly changes, but "Offsite bankroll" does not change at all. I think, "onsite" investment more profitable, but riskier; "offsite" - stabler, but less profitable. I invested on August 27th 0.4 btc, now i see 0.40681439 btc in my stats. Better than nothing nevertheless.
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October 18, 2018, 02:01:33 PM |
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But on the invest page there are two options online and offsite and I am getting a bit confused there. Where do I put my BTC?
Just look at "Overview" on investing page ( https://bustadice.com/invest) - "Onsite bankroll" value constantly changes, but "Offsite bankroll" does not change at all. I think, "onsite" investment more profitable, but riskier; "offsite" - stabler, but less profitable. I invested on August 27th 0.4 btc, now i see 0.40681439 btc in my stats. Better than nothing nevertheless. Thanks for the info, especially those numbers. So that means around 1.7% profit in around 17 days. I guess that's how far a genuine, passive and less risky investment can get you. "Onsite bankroll" value constantly changes, but "Offsite bankroll" does not change at all. I think, "onsite" investment more profitable, but riskier; "offsite" - stabler, but less profitable.
Hm, not quite. The onsite is constantly changing, because it represents how much money is "physically" in the casino bankroll. So if someone loses 100 satoshis gambling, it'll go up by 99.75 satoshis (the difference between the two is commissions which goes direct into Dans pocket). So it is guaranteed to be constantly fluctuating, as people are literally gambling against it. The offsite however will only[1] change when investors explicitly request that it is it changed on their behalf. This probably doesn't happen much as bustadice discourages changing your exposure by charging a dilution fee (I think it's 1 or 2% now) by what ever amount you increase it. Now 1 BTC in offsite and 1 BTC in onsite investment will have the exact same return. The difference is 1 bitcoin in onsite represents what you have physically deposited on site, and the 1 bitcoin in offsite represents what you're risking but haven't deposited. The big advantage of using onsite is that you never need to worry about your position being margin-called (you already have all your money there) and can completely passively invest. The big advantage of offsite is that you're keeping your money in your own wallet, so if there was a hypothetical exit-scam you wouldn't lose it. It's quite an elegant system, but honestly a bit too complex I think. For 99% of people, I think they'd be better off sticking purely to onsite. Thanks for the details. But I want to know how come onsite and offsite have same returns when online investing is more risky?
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October 30, 2018, 05:16:06 PM |
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bustadice and bustabit are both owned by myself and share some code. I'm not in dispute with BetKing and Dean doesn't owe me anything. Since it doesn't affect bustadice I kindly ask you to discuss it in a more appropriate thread.
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October 30, 2018, 05:20:56 PM Last edit: October 30, 2018, 05:34:49 PM by JollyGood |
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bustadice and bustabit are both owned by myself and share some code. I'm not in dispute with BetKing and Dean doesn't owe me anything. Since it doesn't affect bustadice I kindly ask you to discuss it in a more appropriate thread.
I will post here in the Bustabit thread I just found, hopefully it will be a more appropriate thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2897545.0Thank you
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November 08, 2018, 07:28:47 AM |
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bustadice and bustabit are both owned by myself and share some code. I'm not in dispute with BetKing and Dean doesn't owe me anything. Since it doesn't affect bustadice I kindly ask you to discuss it in a more appropriate thread.
A very nice response. Now that you are one of the trusted members in this forum and Bustadince has establish itself in the heart of many of us here because of your sincerity and hard work I believe bustabit is going to also become great in future. I came across it for the first time and I am heading to the site to find opportunities over there. May you be increase sir.
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November 10, 2018, 05:00:29 PM |
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bustadice and bustabit are both owned by myself and share some code. I'm not in dispute with BetKing and Dean doesn't owe me anything. Since it doesn't affect bustadice I kindly ask you to discuss it in a more appropriate thread.
A very nice response. Now that you are one of the trusted members in this forum and Bustadince has establish itself in the heart of many of us here because of your sincerity and hard work I believe bustabit is going to also become great in future. I came across it for the first time and I am heading to the site to find opportunities over there. May you be increase sir. What do you mean? I believe bustabit is the pioneer of every single crash game that you played nowadays and now they have a newer version as I recall. So if you think bustadice is going to be great in the future, then you must already be wrong. Just because of having bustabit in the first place then they can create their bustadice. Both are a great sites so if you want to get a crash game, you can go bustabit and for dice is bustadice. This is pretty easy yo remember
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November 12, 2018, 02:00:43 PM |
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I noticed that the bankroll investing maximum leverage is decreased to 2:1 today and the dilution fee is 2% now. Is there a reason behind this change?
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devans (OP)
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I noticed that the bankroll investing maximum leverage is decreased to 2:1 today and the dilution fee is 2% now. Is there a reason behind this change?
Usually I post an overview of the changes on the day of the update. I apologize for only doing it now. For a brief moment the FAQ incorrectly said 2:1, but the maximum leverage has actually only been reduced to 3:1. As bustadice now has the largest bankroll of any Bitcoin casino at nearly 4,900 BTC, my focus is on achieving a stable bankroll rather than an even larger one. In order to do that I want to encourage long-term investments and discourage leveraging. Raising the dilution fee accomplishes both and decreasing the offsite caps prevents investors from (ab)using the offsite system to leverage by too much. It goes without saying that nobody is being margin-called or forced to divest. The new limits only affect any new investments or changes made to existing investments.
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December 13, 2018, 03:15:41 PM |
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When I use: aAu5dgh6frelia aZerfchf5hso aShig5dski With a " " (SPACE) after clientseed (just like your message has a space after the clientseed), I do get the correct 1.09x result. Same with 22.17x. Considering there are other spaces in that clientseed, it seems likely the space after it is legit too. So to me it seems all fine. Please double check if there is a space after clientseed ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) PS, ideally spaces wouldn't be allowed in clientseed so there is no such confusion.
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December 13, 2018, 03:21:30 PM |
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Wow, yep you are right ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So I take my words back. So sorry, guys ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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December 13, 2018, 03:21:58 PM |
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Okay, registered here just to tell everybody about scam from developers of bustadice.com. You tell about "fair" play? Here you are example of 3 bets where multipliers are not consistent with verify page: https://bustadice.com/bet/1Lv8lA3oVely8S3ZL8MrJm0VjZScreenshot with info ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FsPvmTIl&t=665&c=i39LbfaVys39tQ) server hash 9a01e0d0383e582c29fbdc2dd57fb1b0d2ad495886ddba39fe24382c6a522b8f client seed aAu5dgh6frelia aZerfchf5hso aShig5dski nonce 91680 Okay I revealed server seed: 473dd365bcd777f066a79edc8ba4adb6fa4e3a50bdc2fd9584f7c960ce5777d8_12fcca02f23fe2 fc89a81e4808eb9478d51522e3138314bbea2168f054bd3382 And what do u think? When I check the data on https://bustadice.github.io/verifier/I get 2.58x!! Not 1.09 or something below target. Same shit with this bet: https://bustadice.com/bet/gQxrPdj24L7WZH01wK2KnXew4OScreenshot with info ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FOLDof91&t=665&c=KnInUc5XSMTUfg) nonce 91671 Verifier tells that I will get 22.9. BUT NOOO! I get 1.02. Ok, check some profitable bet: https://bustadice.com/bet/DEOlpgq2XeQWVSVbP7B9XKJL3kScreenshot with info ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FDHezrNt&t=665&c=p3Hy-2uGFBbMaA) nonce 91675 Same inconsistency - 8.29 vs 22.17 Developers, please explain that. Your client seed is "aAu5dgh6frelia aZerfchf5hso aShig5dski " (with a space character at the end) rather than "aAu5dgh6frelia aZerfchf5hso aShig5dski". All of your bets can be verified correctly with the right client seed. PS, ideally spaces wouldn't be allowed in clientseed so there is no such confusion.
I'll have to give it some more thought, but you're most likely right about that.
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December 13, 2018, 03:23:23 PM |
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Wow, yep you are right ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So I take my words back. So sorry, guys ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) No need to apologize, it could have confused me as well! Thank you for bringing the UX issue to my attention.
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December 26, 2018, 08:18:20 AM Last edit: December 26, 2018, 12:08:33 PM by devans |
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bustadice is offline for server maintenance and will return in approximately three hours. I will update this thread once we're back online.
bustadice is back online.
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December 26, 2018, 02:06:06 PM |
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Jesus Christ every time I see devans responding the way he does I feel like Rhavar found a proper person to continue his legacy. Just marvelous mate. You could not purchase a better PR yourself with all the money you make that would help you out more than how you present yourself. There is no PR that is more valuable than just being a straight up decent owner. You didn't went full at it you didn't shame anyone, you just showed the mistake and how it could be checked and you even "accepted" some sort of fault for UX which you really didn't had to at all. This is why I love bustabit, dice has never been more favorite game so I haven't checked this topic ever and the first time I come here this is what I see. Definitely would have expected this sort of awesomeness from you though so no need to be shocked ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Keep up the great work man.
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