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July 07, 2020, 08:21:25 PM
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The site is scam .please check here . The admin never replied to any email or on my thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259963.msg54732966#msg54732966

As others explained in your thread, when verifying your roll's fairness you forgot the whitespace you entered at the end of your client seed:

Exactly, if you add a space at the end of the client seed the result shows 1.03x
You seem to have a habit of adding a trailing space to the end of lines when you type, as well as some weird extra spaces before periods.  Seems like just a habit you have that you aren't aware of.

Some (but not all) examples from this thread (archived):
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i'm going to attach images and my bet ID .any one can go and verify it
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They given me result in my bet 1.03x but when i verified the bet on there verifier  i got 8.53x

The question is: Why 90% of the hashes are based on the seed WITHOUT space and  the hashes that user loses are those which space is included? I tested it, never used space but somehow system automatically adds it in the hashes that I'm losing -,-
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July 07, 2020, 09:19:56 PM
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The question is: Why 90% of the hashes are based on the seed WITHOUT space and  the hashes that user loses are those which space is included? I tested it, never used space but somehow system automatically adds it in the hashes that I'm losing -,-

I think you'll find all your bets are using the same client-seed, which has a trailing space. Most likely you accidentally entered this. Interestingly because your nonce is: 306 it makes it computationally impossible that bustadice picked a malicious sever-seed in the first place.

That said, bustadice should either not allow or warn users when they have confusing client seeds (e.g. leading, trailing, double spaces, weird unicode...) and prevent this confusion from happening in the first place.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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July 08, 2020, 04:30:10 AM
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The question is: Why 90% of the hashes are based on the seed WITHOUT space and  the hashes that user loses are those which space is included? I tested it, never used space but somehow system automatically adds it in the hashes that I'm losing -,-
Stop using red colour mate, it is not going to change anything.Just accept that you are having bad luck while betting and this is normal when someone lose their money. Cheesy

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July 08, 2020, 04:53:40 AM
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The question is: Why 90% of the hashes are based on the seed WITHOUT space and  the hashes that user loses are those which space is included? I tested it, never used space but somehow system automatically adds it in the hashes that I'm losing -,-
Stop using red colour mate, it is not going to change anything.Just accept that you are having bad luck while betting and this is normal when someone lose their money. Cheesy

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July 20, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
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Is anyone investor in the house pool?
I'm wondering how your experiences and gains are so far?
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July 20, 2020, 01:04:37 PM
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He last signed in on 8th July 2020 which was one day after he made that large red font rant - hopefully he will be more careful about protocols and etiquettes if he returns back to the forum.

The question is: Why 90% of the hashes are based on the seed WITHOUT space and  the hashes that user loses are those which space is included? I tested it, never used space but somehow system automatically adds it in the hashes that I'm losing -,-
Stop using red colour mate, it is not going to change anything.Just accept that you are having bad luck while betting and this is normal when someone lose their money. Cheesy

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July 21, 2020, 08:15:36 AM
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Is anyone investor in the house pool?
I'm wondering how your experiences and gains are so far?

I'm invested for nearly 2 years now and I would not recommend investing right now.

1. "Offsite investing" is not possible for new investors, which makes it much harder to get significant stake in bankroll.
2. Commission has been increased to 50%, which dramatically decreases expected returns.

Overall you can roughly expect 8-10% return p.a., which is still quite good, but there are better alternatives out there, especially given the risks.
Bankroll has decreased by 20% since the commission change, but it still remains quite high. And as I understand devans, he intends to keep it this high until bankroll has further decreased to more sane levels.

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August 09, 2020, 04:49:29 PM
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I was going to try, but it doesnt accept any altcoin... and spend 6 usd on BTC transaction fee just for try something is not good... Or maybe it was projected for high-rollers only...

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August 22, 2020, 08:15:12 AM
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I was going to try, but it doesnt accept any altcoin... and spend 6 usd on BTC transaction fee just for try something is not good... Or maybe it was projected for high-rollers only...
A recent surge on the bitcoin's price made the network mempool to get clogged that is the reason the recommended fee has been increased to reduce the waiting time but you still can make transactions with a low fees if you are not in a hurry which may take a day or two.

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August 22, 2020, 08:45:32 AM
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Visited my bustabit account and still have some ubtc, played for 3 hours before my balance emptied. I noticed that the faucet is gone?

Bustabit is more comfortable to play with. Is this alternative domain? https://bustabits.us/index.html
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Visited my bustabit account and still have some ubtc, played for 3 hours before my balance emptied. I noticed that the faucet is gone?

Bustabit is more comfortable to play with. Is this alternative domain? https://bustabits.us/index.html
Please don't fall for it, I open a [Scam]: A fake Bustabit website. I wonder though where you get that website? Perhaps you can elaborate their attack vector so that we will have an idea?

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August 22, 2020, 11:10:43 AM
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Visited my bustabit account and still have some ubtc, played for 3 hours before my balance emptied. I noticed that the faucet is gone?

Bustabit is more comfortable to play with. Is this alternative domain? https://bustabits.us/index.html
Please don't fall for it, I open a [Scam]: A fake Bustabit website. I wonder though where you get that website? Perhaps you can elaborate their attack vector so that we will have an idea?
I found it in google search with google ads, but i went to the original link to be safe. The whole UI is the same but i did not see the actual game.

Thank you for confirming!
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August 22, 2020, 07:31:27 PM
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Why is nobody talking about the launch of a new top casino? https://www.greenslots.online/ - registration is a minute and you are already playing) Really well done, the deposit just came, now we will try our luck)
You know you can't advertise casino on other casino's Announcement thread.
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Why is nobody talking about the launch of a new top casino? https://www.greenslots.online/ - registration is a minute and you are already playing) Really well done, the deposit just came, now we will try our luck)
You know you can't advertise casino on other casino's Announcement thread.
Well, you "can" but it is in bad taste plus it will probably deleted very quickly when realized Grin Grin.

Bustadice is something totally different, it is basically a small time idea thing grown into a huge whole website of god knows how much bitcoin gambled every single day, so maybe they would be more understanding but anyone who basically reports them to the mods will get this deleted very easily.

I also wanted to point out that I have been waiting for bustadice to add multiple altcoins, and bustabit as well, so that we could also invest in those as well, but there is really no movement towards that at all. Is there like even a consideration about it? Like maybe it is on the road map but it is not urgent? I really want to see something like that and invest if possible.
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September 06, 2020, 10:12:39 PM
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I also wanted to point out that I have been waiting for bustadice to add multiple altcoins, and bustabit as well, so that we could also invest in those as well, but there is really no movement towards that at all. Is there like even a consideration about it? Like maybe it is on the road map but it is not urgent? I really want to see something like that and invest if possible.
AFAIK, Bustadice has no plan to add altcoins as payment mode and I guess it will never happen.Bustadice is famous for its quick on every thing so adding more coins will be a bit more complication with the security and services.Still you can invest your bitcoin into Bustadice.

For more information related to investing on Bustadice, visit : https://bustadice.com/invest

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Your Terms of Service claim that players from France, Netherlands, and USA are restricted from playing at Bustadice. I was able to enter your site and register accounts with IPs from all 3 countries. My thoughts are that if a certain country is restricted, there should be automatic IP blocks when someone tries to use your services from those locations. You don't seem to have any IP blocks.

I have been testing casinos lately to check if they have introduced IP blocks. The results can be seen here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278411.0

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October 08, 2020, 02:23:45 PM
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Your Terms of Service claim that players from France, Netherlands, and USA are restricted from playing at Bustadice. I was able to enter your site and register accounts with IPs from all 3 countries. My thoughts are that if a certain country is restricted, there should be automatic IP blocks when someone tries to use your services from those locations. You don't seem to have any IP blocks.

I have been testing casinos lately to check if they have introduced IP blocks. The results can be seen here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278411.0

IP address geolocation is not entirely reliable and the use of VPN services–especially with endpoints in the USA–is very common. For that reason we don't automatically block anyone based on IP address geolocation.

For what it's worth the only reason we prohibit players from certain jurisdictions like France is that our gaming license requires it. bustadice excluding players from a jurisdiction does not necessarily mean that online gambling is illegal there. Vice versa, a country not being on that list doesn't necessarily mean that online gambling is legal there. It is up to the player to comply with all applicable laws in their jurisdiction.
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IP address geolocation is not entirely reliable and the use of VPN services–especially with endpoints in the USA–is very common. For that reason we don't automatically block anyone based on IP address geolocation.
It is reliable enough. Many casinos have such IP blocks in place. During my testing, I saw that they are working just fine.

For what it's worth the only reason we prohibit players from certain jurisdictions like France is that our gaming license requires it. bustadice excluding players from a jurisdiction does not necessarily mean that online gambling is illegal there. Vice versa, a country not being on that list doesn't necessarily mean that online gambling is legal there.
I don't think it is important why certain locations are restricted, just the fact that they are. And if they aren't allowed on your site, more effort should be taken to keep them out of it.

It is up to the player to comply with all applicable laws in their jurisdiction.
I totally agree. There is a big difference between willingly breaking the rules/laws and then getting caught and punished for it. This is the player's fault.
But you as a platform should do more on your end as well. It would be in your best interest. It has happened more than once in the past that players have had their winnings confiscated after the casinos found out that they are gambling from somewhere that isn't allowed. Doing your part in preventing it from happening is a plus. This can be achieved by IP blocks or notifications informing players from certain countries that they aren't allowed to play on the casino.

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October 10, 2020, 08:49:50 AM
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IP address geolocation is not entirely reliable and the use of VPN services–especially with endpoints in the USA–is very common. For that reason we don't automatically block anyone based on IP address geolocation.
It is reliable enough. Many casinos have such IP blocks in place. During my testing, I saw that they are working just fine.

You haven't addressed VPN usage.

I totally agree. There is a big difference between willingly breaking the rules/laws and then getting caught and punished for it. This is the player's fault.
But you as a platform should do more on your end as well. It would be in your best interest. It has happened more than once in the past that players have had their winnings confiscated after the casinos found out that they are gambling from somewhere that isn't allowed. Doing your part in preventing it from happening is a plus. This can be achieved by IP blocks or notifications informing players from certain countries that they aren't allowed to play on the casino.

Other cryptocurrency gambling sites have behaved in this manner but bustadice/bustabit so far has not.

KYC checks are driven solely by the legal requirements imposed on bustabit and we aren't obligated to perform a KYC check just because someone won a large amount. As I mentioned in my previous post, a KYC check is only necessary if there is a specific and plausible reason to believe that a user is prohibited from using bustabit, e.g. if they themselves claim they are underage.

If a user refuses or fails a KYC check we may restrict their account from further using the site, i.e. betting, investing and chatting, and demand that they withdraw their funds and refrain from using bustabit going forwards. Outside of extreme edge cases like being compelled to by a court order, bustabit will never prevent users from accessing their funds.

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@Bustadice

Your Terms of Service claim that players from France, Netherlands, and USA are restricted from playing at Bustadice. I was able to enter your site and register accounts with IPs from all 3 countries. My thoughts are that if a certain country is restricted, there should be automatic IP blocks when someone tries to use your services from those locations. You don't seem to have any IP blocks.
I don't know if it depends on the type of VPN but whenever i try to access bustadice when I have forgotten to turn off my VPN especially if the IP address is off a restricted country. This is what i get and it goes on forever. I always thought it was a way of avoiding people who use VPN from accessing bustadice.



Until I turn off the VPN, that's when I am able to access the website and be able to pretty much do anything. Luckily my area is not restricted.

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