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October 22, 2022, 10:26:46 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to check the seed. You can see your revealed seed as well as the hash of your unrevealed seed at https://bustadice.com/play/seed. In addition the seed is shown on each of your wagers' pages once you have revealed the seed used for that wager.

Hopefully this is obvious, but there is no betting strategy that is guaranteed to win. bustadice has a house edge of 1%, so any bet or sequence of bets expects to lose 1% of what you wager. You were not scammed merely because you lost at a casino. Also, consider that rolling below 1.08x five times in a row is not as unlikely as you might believe. The probability of seeing such a streak in 10,000 bets is 4%, in 100,000 bets it is already 33% and 1,000,000 bets have a 98% probability of seeing such a streak.

bustadice proves its fairness using cryptography and math, so if you have any doubts you can verify that you lost fairly. Simply go to https://bustadice.github.io/verifier/ and follow the instructions. For what it's worth this tool's source code is public. You can view it by simply inspecting the page's source code in your browser or at https://github.com/bustadice/verifier/blob/gh-pages/index.html.
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October 22, 2022, 02:17:24 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to check the seed. You can see your revealed seed as well as the hash of your unrevealed seed at https://bustadice.com/play/seed. In addition the seed is shown on each of your wagers' pages once you have revealed the seed used for that wager.

Hopefully this is obvious, but there is no betting strategy that is guaranteed to win. bustadice has a house edge of 1%, so any bet or sequence of bets expects to lose 1% of what you wager. You were not scammed merely because you lost at a casino. Also, consider that rolling below 1.08x five times in a row is not as unlikely as you might believe. The probability of seeing such a streak in 10,000 bets is 4%, in 100,000 bets it is already 33% and 1,000,000 bets have a 98% probability of seeing such a streak.

bustadice proves its fairness using cryptography and math, so if you have any doubts you can verify that you lost fairly. Simply go to https://bustadice.github.io/verifier/ and follow the instructions. For what it's worth this tool's source code is public. You can view it by simply inspecting the page's source code in your browser or at https://github.com/bustadice/verifier/blob/gh-pages/index.html.

Actually you can't this page https://bustadice.com/play/seed send you to home page so useless indeed .

Actually the verifier is useless when the seed is generated to make you lose after a number of bets, is not probability is a certain thing .

I saw it in 4000 bets so stfup with your stupid casino....
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October 22, 2022, 08:37:06 PM
Last edit: October 23, 2022, 07:00:28 PM by logfiles
 #1023

Actually you can't this page https://bustadice.com/play/seed send you to home page so useless indeed .

Actually the verifier is useless when the seed is generated to make you lose after a number of bets, is not probability is a certain thing .

I saw it in 4000 bets so stfup with your stupid casino....
This quote was made for people like you - "A bad workman always blames his tools" (Source)

Will you just stop the blame games and accept you were unlucky and lost? If you don't like how the casino works, then completely avoid gambling.

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October 22, 2022, 08:54:33 PM
 #1024

Actually you can't this page https://bustadice.com/play/seed send you to home page so useless indeed .

Actually the verifier is useless when the seed is generated to make you lose after a number of bets, is not probability is a certain thing .

I saw it in 4000 bets so stfup with your stupid casino....
This quote was made for people like you - "A bad workman always blames his tools" (Source)

Will just stop the blame games and just accept you were unlucky and lost. If you don't like how the casino works, then completely avoid gambling.

I'm not that poor I need to put a fucking affiliate link on a fucking forum so stfup slave ...
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January 07, 2023, 11:41:01 AM
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Hello,guys.Can you tell me why my script works on bustabit, but on bustadice it gives errors "engine not defined" and "userinfo.balance not defined"? Thanks in advance.


var config = {

};



let winMatrix = [
    [10, 1.35],     
    [10, 1.45],     
    [10, 1.55],     
    [10, 1.65],     
    [10, 1.75],     
    [10, 1.85],   
    [10, 1.95],     
    [10, 2.05],     
    [10, 2.15],     
    [10, 2.25],
    [10, 2.35],
    [10, 2.45],
    [10, 2.55],
    [10, 2.65],
    [10, 2.75],
    [10, 2.85],
    [10, 2.95],
];


let loseMatrix = [
    [50, 1.25],
    [0, 1.25],
    [250, 1.25],
    [0, 1.25],
    [1250, 1.25],
    [0, 1.25],
    [6250, 1.25],
    [0, 1.25],
    [3250, 1.25],
   

];

var startingBalance = userInfo.balance;
var currentBet = 0;
var currentGame = 0;
var totalGames = 0;

var winStreak = true;
var loseStreak = false;


var startingBet = currentBet;

log('Script is running.... ');
log('Starting Balance: ', startingBalance);


engine.on('GAME_STARTING', onGameStarted);
engine.on('GAME_ENDED', onGameEnded);


function onGameStarted()
{
  totalGames++;
  var currentBet = 0;
  var cashOut = 0;

  if(winStreak)
  {
    currentBet = winMatrix[currentGame][0]*100;
    cashOut = winMatrix[currentGame][1];
  }
  else
  {
    currentBet = loseMatrix[currentGame][0]*100;
    cashOut = loseMatrix[currentGame][1];
  }   
 
 

      if (currentBet > userInfo.balance) {
          log('Game KILLED BET TO BIG');
          engine.removeListener('GAME_STARTING', onGameStarted);
          engine.removeListener('GAME_ENDED', onGameEnded);
      }
      else
      {
        if(currentBet != 0)
        {
          log('Game #', currentGame, 'PLACE BET: ', roundBit(currentBet)/100, ' Cashout: ',  cashOut, ' User Balance: ', userInfo.balance/100);
          engine.bet(roundBit(currentBet), cashOut);
        }
       
      }
 
}

function onGameEnded() {
  var lastGame = engine.history.first()
 
  if (!lastGame.wager) {
        log('SKIP:', lastGame.bust);
     
        if(currentGame > 0)
          currentGame++;
      return;     
  }
 
  if (lastGame.cashedAt)
  {
      log('Current Game:', currentGame, 'WON : ', (lastGame.wager/100) * (lastGame.cashedAt), ' Bust: ', lastGame.bust, ', Balance: ', userInfo.balance/100, ', Profit: ', (userInfo.balance/100) - (startingBalance/100));
      if(loseStreak)
      {
        winStreak = true;
        loseStreak = false;
        currentGame=0;
      }
      else
        currentGame++;
     
  }
  else
  {
      log('Current Game:', currentGame, 'LOST       : ', lastGame.wager/100, ' Bust: ', lastGame.bust, ', Balance: ', userInfo.balance/100, ', Profit: ', (userInfo.balance/100) - (startingBalance/100));
      if(winStreak)
      {
        loseStreak = true;
        winStreak = false;
        currentGame=0;
      }
      else
        currentGame++;
  }   

  var killScript = false;
  if(winStreak)
  {
     if(currentGame >= winMatrix.length)
      killScript = true;
  }
  else
  {
     if(currentGame >= loseMatrix.length)
      killScript = true;
  }

   if(killScript)
   {
     log('Strategy Failed! exiting...');
     engine.removeListener('GAME_STARTING', onGameStarted);
     engine.removeListener('GAME_ENDED', onGameEnded);
  }
 
}


function roundBit(bet) {
  return Math.round(bet / 100) * 100;
}
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January 08, 2023, 12:21:00 AM
 #1026

bustabit scripts aren't compatible with bustadice as the games are fundamentally different. On bustabit the game is always running whether you bet or not, so thinking about it in terms of events makes sense ("when the game starts, do this", "when the game ends, do this" etc.). On the other hand on bustadice nothing happens unless you place a bet, so scripts are more active rather than reactive.
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January 08, 2023, 08:35:37 AM
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I known bustadice since my first days on this forum in 2017 and then signature was active here and it lasted for a long before it was stopped am sure within that period, butadice would have to build a strong community base that could sustain its traffic need to generate the needed revenue for the site but the bad side is, they have stopped being active here since their signature was closed here.
Creating a strong community?. Can a strong community stand and survive easily if it is only filled by a few members who do not have good quality?
If indeed busadice can develop and run well then it will have many active members in it and it is impossible for their signature to stop in this forum and they are definitely still active today.
It is not easy to continue to survive and want good enough development if there is no development team that is good enough and able to work hard to be able to advance a project that only has a few members in it.
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February 13, 2023, 03:38:34 PM
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Previously, the commission rate paid by bankroll investors was calculated by converting the bankroll to special drawing rights (XDR) using the average exchange rate of the past 360 days, then dividing the result by 80,000,000 XDR. Going forwards, the average exchange rate of the past 180 days will be used instead, allowing the commission rate and by extension the bankroll to react to changes in Bitcoin's price faster. The immediate effect is a reduction of the commission rate paid by investors from approximately 46% to 36%.
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February 18, 2023, 11:47:12 PM
Last edit: February 20, 2023, 10:10:08 PM by usekevin
 #1029

Bankroll is the foremost for the crypto currency casino.Because the casino with low bankroll, how he pay the winning gamblers.So this was the basic one considered by the gamblers to inverse their money.Secondly the wager is the importance thing decide the crypto casino is good or bad.The people in Bustadice all form the good community, but it's became a hard to convey to their.The way of applying to the websites is based on the reputation to their website in the past.So bustadice had good future,if they had concrete on this issue.

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February 20, 2023, 10:57:28 PM
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Bankroll is the foremost for the crypto currency casino.Because the casino with low bankroll, how he pay the winning gamblers.So this was the basic one considered by the gamblers to inverse their money.Secondly the wager is the importance thing decide the crypto casino is good or bad.The people in Bustadice all form the good community, but it's became a hard to convey to their.The way of applying to the websites is based on the reputation to their website in the past.So bustadice had good future,if they had concrete on this issue.
because the first criterion of a casino is a large bankroll that can afford to pay customers who get big wins.
as far as I know Busstadice is an online casino that has been around for a long time and I think they have a bankroll that is likely to be able to pay out wins by their customers.
because until now Busstadice is still running and running smoothly without any problems. meaning it is true that they have enough bankroll to pay their customers and I think they are still the same as other casinos that limit bets to minimize on the bankroll that is owned.

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October 05, 2023, 04:32:47 PM
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Multisignature cold storage
The majority of users' funds is securely held in 2-of-3 cold storage with keys split between Daniel of bustabit, Ryan and a trusted third party.

This wallet can only be accessed with the approval of at least two keyholders and ensures that users' deposits can be safely returned to them if something were to happen to one of the keyholders.
My question is not related to gambling or bustadice but I think it will be interesting for everyone. As you say, your team runs 2-of-3 multisig cold wallet and I want to know, how seriously do you take that in real life? I mean, do two of you or three of you ever move together? For example, via car? Because if you two are together in the car or on airplane and something bad happens (god bless you), two man is gone and wallet is left with only one man who can't sign a transaction alone.
I know this question may be curious for you and many people here but I am really interested in, how big companies manage their cold wallets.

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October 07, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
 #1032

Daniel please man

Let me withdraw today, I'll sign something anywhere, on email, on this thread, in paper saying if I ever deposit again then that deposit will be forfeit indefinitely.

I'm begging, I need this money it's all I got. Send me the thing to sign, like the 3 month one I signed where you let me WD early if I sign it, but make it permanent instead of 3 months and I'll do it right now. Please you don't understand I have no money
Hey man, what exactly is the problem? do you mind sharing with the community what exactly is happening or have happened, why are you unable to withdraw normally from this casino like from every normal casino? why do you have to beg to be allowed to withdraw?

I see that you have posted this same comment on the other thread, the crash game thread of this same casino, I am very curious to know what exactly is happening, why are you not being allowed to withdraw? did you commit any crime that warrant you begging to be allowed to withdraw your own funds?

Please share with us your experience, this will serve as a review and probably will help us learn more about this casino .

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October 07, 2023, 10:31:12 AM
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I'll just quote myself from a previous occasion on which you mistakenly thought complaining here would make me lift your ban:

See my previous posts, which I believe were quite clear:

Assuming the name of your bustabit.com account is also Perplex005, I disabled betting for your account because I think that you have a gambling problem, which I explained to you several times. Obviously I can't stop you from gambling entirely, but given the things you have told me I don't think you should be gambling on bustabit or anywhere else. I will not change my mind regardless of how many times you complain about it.

I will not go into more detail as I cannot verify that this is indeed your bustabit account and also do not publicly discuss support requests and emails that users sent me in confidence in general.

You may not bet or chat on bustabit or bustadice because it is clear to me that you have a gambling problem. Based on your posts in this forum alone I am confident any reasonable person would agree with that assessment, not to mention your behavior via chat and email. I will not reconsider my decision–which I have explained to you at length multiple times–and I will no longer respond to your emails and support requests demanding to be allowed to bet again.

However, your ability to withdraw your money is not and never has been restricted. So once again: Please withdraw any remaining balance you may have and refrain from using bustabit.

You are not welcome on bustabit and I'd appreciate if you could stop spamming this thread with the same pointless complaint over and over again.
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October 07, 2023, 10:32:14 AM
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Daniel please man

Let me withdraw today, I'll sign something anywhere, on email, on this thread, in paper saying if I ever deposit again then that deposit will be forfeit indefinitely.

I'm begging, I need this money it's all I got. Send me the thing to sign, like the 3 month one I signed where you let me WD early if I sign it, but make it permanent instead of 3 months and I'll do it right now. Please you don't understand I have no money
Hey man, what exactly is the problem? do you mind sharing with the community what exactly is happening or have happened, why are you unable to withdraw normally from this casino like from every normal casino? why do you have to beg to be allowed to withdraw?

I see that you have posted this same comment on the other thread, the crash game thread of this same casino, I am very curious to know what exactly is happening, why are you not being allowed to withdraw? did you commit any crime that warrant you begging to be allowed to withdraw your own funds?

Please share with us your experience, this will serve as a review and probably will help us learn more about this casino .

Basically,

Around 3 years ago, when I was actually a minor playing on his website (Bustabit.com), I used to gamble and when when I lost, I used to get very upset and FUD'ed his site. A mute here would be warranted, I agree, that is the typical punishment for FUD'ing. But instead, he decided to permanently ban me and lock all my accounts from having the ability to withdraw from them. 3 Years later, I am an adult, I have a job, I have the proof that I'm now an adult and can gamble with the amounts I gamble with, he still refuses to look into the situation and would rather just keep me banned and keep my money locked in his site.

I don't know what his problem is. It's beyond my ability to explain. No reasonable person would just ignore the situation, I don't know if it's out of pride, as in, he doesn't want to change a decision he made, or whether it's just to fucking annoy me, but it's getting ridiculous.

Yes, FUD'ing is really immature but I was quite literally a kid when I did it and I haven't done it, not even once, since the initial ban. At first, I begged him to review the ban and potentially reconsider it, I offered to show him payslips to show I'm gambling with only a fraction of what I make to prove I'm not a problem gambler like I portrayed myself to be when I was younger, but now I'm just at the very least begging him to unlock my accounts so I can get my money out of his site, but he isn't interested in looking at the evidence. It's blisful ignorance. He values his pride over doing the right thing, and I don't know how to get through to him.
Wow..
Now, I get a glimpse of what the issue is all about.
Assuming you are telling the truth, then here is what i have to say..

First , Fudding a casino for losing your games is really uncalled for, but I assume this emanated from your lack of understanding of what gambling is all about, and for someone who does not understand that gambling is all about luck, winning and losing, such person shouldn't really be gambling, your win is your win and your loss is your loss, a gambler should take whatever be the outcome of his or her game and not blame the casino as long as he or she does not sense any form of cheating on the part of the casino.

So as long as you do not fud a casino when you win, it is absolutely inappropriate to fud the same casino when you lose, so on this part, you are wrong, but then, it is rather unprofessional for the casino to ban you completely for this reason with your funds on your account, they least they would have done is ban you and allow you to take out your money.
Right now, i see what the casino have done as stealing, since you have not broken any of the casino's rules that warrant forfeiture of the funds in your account to the casino, them forcefully not allowing you to withdraw your fund simply because you fudded the casino is unwarranted and unprofessional, millions of businesses around the world have thousands, hundreds or tens of customers (depending on their customer base) who fud the business, but still, the business owners find a way to manage everyone.

Anyways, if the casino refuse to give you back your money, I will suggest you create a scam accusation against them, you can do this in the scam and accusation board, do this and the community be the judge..

By the way, how much are we talking about here?.

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 #1035

See their previous accusation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434833.0 and bustabit's thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2897545.0. bustabit has the right to refuse service to anyone especially if they clearly have a gambling problem and other issues. This horse has been beaten to death in bustabit's thread already, so I'm not going to comment on it any more in this thread, which is about bustadice.
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Multisignature cold storage
The majority of users' funds is securely held in 2-of-3 cold storage with keys split between Daniel of bustabit, Ryan and a trusted third party.

This wallet can only be accessed with the approval of at least two keyholders and ensures that users' deposits can be safely returned to them if something were to happen to one of the keyholders.
My question is not related to gambling or bustadice but I think it will be interesting for everyone. As you say, your team runs 2-of-3 multisig cold wallet and I want to know, how seriously do you take that in real life? I mean, do two of you or three of you ever move together? For example, via car? Because if you two are together in the car or on airplane and something bad happens (god bless you), two man is gone and wallet is left with only one man who can't sign a transaction alone.
I know this question may be curious for you and many people here but I am really interested in, how big companies manage their cold wallets.

bustadice actually moved from a 2-of-3 wallet to a 2-of-2 wallet a while back. While I updated the homepage back then, I hadn't updated the OP in this thread yet, so it's good that you point it out. The auditor (Ryan) is still the second keyholder, so the only thing that's changed is that redundancy is now provided by a combination of backups, dead man's switches etc. rather than a third keyholder.

To answer your question, we're rarely in the same location at the same time, but even if something happened to both of us at once I can promise that everyone including investors would be able to withdraw their money in an orderly fashion.
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October 07, 2023, 03:48:04 PM
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I don't actually WANT to annoy you by the way. I just WANT to gamble SOMEWHERE. And now I know of the existence of this site called moneypot, I will go over there and be their problem. SO long as you let me withdraw, because I don't want to have to sell my account and lose like 10k bits in value. If you force me to do that then I will continue to spam you in both emails, forum posts and making accusation posts, for much longer than you think I can before I get bored


fucking annoying cunt just make BOTH our lives easier. You know I'm petty though, so if you just ignore this like the rest then I'll continue posting until you recognize that I don't plan on slowing down
Well, right now, you are actually spamming, and this is not going to end well for you is you continue, i believe this account is not your first account on this forum, why are you not posting with your main account?, why did you created a new account?..

Have you created a scam accusation on this same issue before?

I personally know that 600 pounds is sure a lot of money, and I understand how hurt you must be right now, but you need to calm down, else, you might end up being banned if you continue spamming, posting multiple comments on a thread sequentially just as you did above is going against the forum rules, permanent ban is the penalty for doing such, so have that in mind and say everything you want to say in one comment, and then allow some one else to respond before you post another.

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Bankroll is the foremost for the crypto currency casino.Because the casino with low bankroll, how he pay the winning gamblers.So this was the basic one considered by the gamblers to inverse their money.Secondly the wager is the importance thing decide the crypto casino is good or bad.The people in Bustadice all form the good community, but it's became a hard to convey to their.The way of applying to the websites is based on the reputation to their website in the past.So bustadice had good future,if they had concrete on this issue.
because the first criterion of a casino is a large bankroll that can afford to pay customers who get big wins.
as far as I know Busstadice is an online casino that has been around for a long time and I think they have a bankroll that is likely to be able to pay out wins by their customers.
because until now Busstadice is still running and running smoothly without any problems. meaning it is true that they have enough bankroll to pay their customers and I think they are still the same as other casinos that limit bets to minimize on the bankroll that is owned.
Casinos have all this in check and that is why they have a house edge in their probably fair system, and also some casinos have some other features that they use to generate liquidities such as the bankroll investment which is available on some casinos, and bustadice is one of such casinos that have this feature in their casinos and at most allot of other casinos have such feature also.
Liquidity is one very important thing for a casino and at that any casino that can not meet up with a large pool of liquidity to settle any possible max bet jackpot is likely going to get broke at some point.

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Well, right now, you are actually spamming, and this is not going to end well for you is you continue, i believe this account is not your first account on this forum, why are you not posting with your main account?, why did you created a new account?..
Guys don't even bother reasoning with him. He doesn't listen. His two other accounts were already banned, and yesterday he created a third one, which has already been nuked as well. He keeps doing the same thing over and over again. I wouldn't be surprised if he created another account to continue spamming. His immature kind of behaviors is very evident and I perfectly understand why they don't want him anywhere in Bustadice or Bustabit.

If he comes back, don't bother wasting your time engaging with him. Just report the account to the mods for ban evasion. They will deal with him.

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February 19, 2024, 03:18:18 PM
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I've reached an agreement with Leo Medina to sell bustabit and bustadice. While most of you know him as the operator of MoneyPot, he's worked with me as part of our developer team behind the scenes for several years.

Here's what's happening:
Next Monday (February 26) at 15:00 UTC bustadice will go offline during its regular maintenance window and Leo will step in to take over. Because of the complicated nature of the transfer we expect the downtime to last longer than usual, up to a few hours. We will keep this thread updated with our progress.

What happens to bankroll investments?
I have reached out to all bankroll investors via email and asked those that do not want to remain invested in the bankroll to divest. Investors that I haven't been able to get in touch with by next week will be divested prior to the handover. It goes without saying that all users including investors are free to withdraw all their money at any time.
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