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October 02, 2017, 01:33:01 AM
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October 02, 2017, 01:39:17 AM
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Shit man this is bad. Real Bad. I hope the admins can do something about this. The only problem is that they will just buy new accounts and spread their FUD on that.

Is there any competition you can think of that would do such thing? Or do you think it is just a random guy who sees you as an opportunity to make money?
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October 02, 2017, 03:11:19 AM
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Unfortunately, extortionists are not only welcomed here, but they are put into positions of power (in the DefaultTrust network)

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October 02, 2017, 04:22:09 AM
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The FUD and Extortion is widespread now in bitcointalk ever since the start of ICO frenzy. And almost every other thread have FUD's from unknown sources. There are no rules stating to be banned by spreading this verifiably false statements from those newbie accounts. I guess the best and easiest option was to make the thread self-moderated. Other threads like bankera, polybius are also infested by scam accusations. I do think that there are only 1 group behind that or maybe a single person.
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October 02, 2017, 05:14:20 AM
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It is unfortunate that the moderators did not react to numerous complaints from the forum participants on the mosprognoz and other scammers. If this goes on, BitcoinTalk will be pushed to the site, where only scam projects will be placed.
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I newer saw the topic like this on bitcointalk before ! Do you want to change the rules of the forum? Same things are happening on lot of threats, but nothing is changing and nothing will, coz bitcointalk is decentralized ! Cheers !  
Edit : And who the f@ck is QUESTRA WORLD?
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October 02, 2017, 07:51:02 AM
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WOW ! Now the scammers are accusing bitcointalk administration and default trust members in supporting of extortion on this forum !  Great.. No more comments !

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October 02, 2017, 07:53:46 AM
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Unfortunately, extortionists are not only welcomed here, but they are put into positions of power (in the DefaultTrust network)
Dude.. you are number one spammer and scammer on this forum ! Also you are the record holder of negative trust rating !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020

LOL !

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October 02, 2017, 08:10:03 AM
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Compile a list of connected accounts and provide evidence of their connection/involvement, where possible. Given sufficient evidence, I'd be willing to leave a negative rating to all accounts. The case should also then be taken to someone who can verify their connection from an administrative view (Cyrus) and handled appropriately (permanent ban on all accounts).

Also, welcome to the internet.

WOW ! Now the scammers are accusing bitcointalk administration and default trust members in supporting of extortion on this forum !   Great.. No more comments !
Inaction does not have to imply support.

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October 02, 2017, 08:18:00 AM
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Compile a list of connected accounts and provide evidence of their connection/involvement, where possible. Given sufficient evidence, I'd be willing to leave a negative rating to all accounts. The case should also then be taken to someone who can verify their connection from an administrative view (Cyrus) and handled appropriately (permanent ban on all accounts).

Also, welcome to the internet.

WOW ! Now the scammers are accusing bitcointalk administration and default trust members in supporting of extortion on this forum !   Great.. No more comments !
Inaction does not have to imply support.

Thanks for getting back to us!

Well, you will be able to find connection without problems if you read our Russian thread where this group of criminals started activity around 2 weeks ago, it's needless to say that if a few accounts posting BlackPR style posts 24/7 it's not organic discussion, all they do is attacking Worldcore and nothing else from 1st post to the last one. For example, Marina Uni has hundreds of posts within less than 2 weeks, all of them about Worldcore and all of them is flood, insults and absolutely fake information and unreal conclusions as well as jemura. These are the most active accounts. We kindly request you to browse our Russian thread through Google translate from page #30:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2116305.new

People who are involved in discussion are more than tired of this all.
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October 02, 2017, 08:23:42 AM
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Thanks for getting back to us!

Well, you will be able to find connection without problems if you read our Russian thread where this group of criminals started activity around 2 weeks ago, it's needless to say that if a few accounts posting BlackPR style posts 24/7 it's not organic discussion, all they do is attacking Worldcore and nothing else from 1st post to the last one. For example, Marina Uni has hundreds of posts within less than 2 weeks, all of them about Worldcore and all of them is flood, insults and absolutely fake information and unreal conclusions as well as jemura. These are the most active accounts. We kindly request you to browse our Russian thread through Google translate from page #30:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2116305.new

People who are involved in discussion are more than tired of this all.
You've got this wrong. You want others to act based on something that you claim has been going on. You need to provide proof for said claims.
1) I don't understand Russian well enough to read that.
2) I don't plan on spending my own, already very limited, time, analyzing your issue.
3) You will have to provide some sort of list and proof if you want to see action from me. I'm sure that the others feel the same way.

There are way too many cases of this, as well as the opposite (shilling your own project with accounts or paid shilling from others) for members to analyze each and every one of those.


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October 02, 2017, 08:39:06 AM
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I m sure some russian bounty managers are connected to these account. They always ask 2 or 5 bitcoin to manage your bounty program.
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A quality project like WorldCore
it should not have fallen into this situation
spammers damaged the project
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October 02, 2017, 05:17:06 PM
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Compile a list of connected accounts and provide evidence of their connection/involvement, where possible. Given sufficient evidence, I'd be willing to leave a negative rating to all accounts. The case should also then be taken to someone who can verify their connection from an administrative view (Cyrus) and handled appropriately (permanent ban on all accounts).

Also, welcome to the internet.

WOW ! Now the scammers are accusing bitcointalk administration and default trust members in supporting of extortion on this forum !  Great.. No more comments !
Inaction does not have to imply support.
Hey Lauda, I have an extortion scheme that I need investigated. Can you help us out?

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This Might help the case.
https://i.imgur.com/a5casJ9.jpg
It would really be helpful when the Ann thread is up so that we can see the patterns of posting from those accounts.  The above screenshot is just a snapshot from google webcache.

Last thing i remember is mosprognoz started questioning the worldcore's legalities and all of it are answered. Then he began to post a lot of Scam Accusations and all was answered on that thread. This is not right as Scam accusations should be inside the Scam Accusations thread. He makes the Worldcore thread a place of discussion of this Scam accusations.

mosprognoz statement are being backed up by bambarnia(Can't provide you a screenshot since the thread is down).

Signs that mosprognoz and barbarnia are the same person.

- They always backed up their statement.
Proofs
https://web.archive.org/web/20171002171136
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094569;sa=showPosts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts
https://web.archive.org/web/20171002172049/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts

24h volume 1600 USD. This coin will share the grave with deeponion very soon. Free airdrop is a scam. I'm sure it is the same scammy scenario. Check out this link ! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057229.msg20520155#msg20520155

It is a scam yea ! 100 % premined and 100 % designed to enrich it's creator. Actually this is not an airdrop, it's signature campaign. So dev will airdrop pay for sigs just 10 or 20 % of premine and the rest he will stake and try to sell slowly. But the problem is that nobody will buy this shitcoin. There is no github, there are no innovations,  there is no team of devs, just unknown and shady person. We already have the same deeponion scam with massive amount of shills involved, but deeponion is collapsing and the same will happen to this shitcoin within a couple of days. You can try to scam some dumb newbies ,but there is no way to cheat the market.     

 - Two accounts are created on the same date and at almost the same time
mosprognoz - Date Registered:   August 03, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
bambarnia  - Date Registered:   August 03, 2017, 07:10:42 PM

Coincidence?

The spam of Scam accusations continues the next day then, a private message on facebook appears.
 https://i.imgur.com/svYVKD7.png

mosprognoz continues to spread FUD and LIES on the thread later that day. bambarnia suddenly stopped and not backed mosprognoz statement. Also at that time when bambarnia is inactive, many newbie accounts are created to attack the Ann thread and also the Russian thread. jemura and mosprognoz started to spread some lies in the Ann thread. Maria Uni was the first one to be spotted on spreading FUD and Scam accusations on Russian thread.

Signs that jemura and Maria Uni are controlled by mosprognoz.

- Like mosprognoz, jemura and Maria Uni are spreading the same scam Accusations.
- Like mosprognoz and bambarnia, jemura and Maria Uni are both created on the same date. This is the sign that the threat of facebook private message is real and this person are using all kinds of dirty tricks to extort.
Maria Uni - Date Registered:   September 20, 2017, 02:26:12 PM
jemura - Date Registered:   September 20, 2017, 02:26:12 PM

- Like mosprognoz and bambarnia, they always backed up their arguments. This time, in russian thread. No need to translate this. Just wanted to point a sign that these accounts are controlled by a single person/group.

мнe нpaвитcя нacoнoв пpocтo.
нo oн нe oтвeчaeт взaимнocтью

нaдeюcь, гycapы нe вылeзyт и нe cтaнyт пoшлить пo пoвoдy eгo opиeнтaции

Hy я пpoтив гeeв ничeгo нe имeю, вce cвoбoдны в выбope opиeнтaции и Hacoнoв тoжe, нo тyт пoнимaющиe люди yжe oцeнили  oтчeт. Я пpocтo yдивляюcь нaглocти этиx людeй кoтopыe ocмeливaютcя пpeдocтaвить тaкoй oтчeт ! Bce ICO этo ничтo инoe кaк paзвoд. Эти caмыe ICO coбpaли c дoвepчивыx лoxoв миллиoны и чтo ? Ceйчac эти тoкeны кyплeнный cкaжeм зa дoллap никoмy нe нyжны и зa пoл цeны нa биpжax. Cдeлaть кpacивый caйт и нaпиcaть "Бeлyю бyмaгy" бoльшoгo тpyдa нe cocтoвляeт a тoкeны мoжнo пeчaтaть нa плaтфopмe eфиpa бeз oгpaничeнии пpитoм кaкиx тo ocoбыx знaний этo нe тpeбyeт.


The rest of the newbie accounts.

Veleor
- Only posted on Worldcore Russian thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1177936;sa=showPosts
- Date Registered:   September 29, 2017, 11:24:07 PM

Matananan
- Account revived after a few months. Only to post on Deeponion and WorldCore
- Signature is also a clear sign that this account is used for shilling and owned by mosprognoz. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1006668;sa=showPosts

Reyzex
- Revived after a month only to post in Worldcore russian thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1071232;sa=showPosts

Bitcointalk profiles of linked accounts.
mosprognoz : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094569
bambarnia : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553
Reyzex : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1071232
jemura : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1162728
Maria Uni : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1162311







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October 02, 2017, 06:34:09 PM
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Hey Lauda, I have an extortion scheme that I need investigated. Can you help us out?
I remember when you were actually helpful to people, rather than making snide remarks in inappropriate situations. Can we get that Quickseller back?
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Hey Lauda, I have an extortion scheme that I need investigated. Can you help us out?
I remember when you were actually helpful to people, rather than making snide remarks in inappropriate situations. Can we get that Quickseller back?
He was never helpful to anyone, in a sense where he actually cared about the people who he was *helping*. He was pretending to care, with his ultimate, yet malicious goal to achieve DT status and later strengthen it. My statement is backed up by evidence. The evidence is his obvious lack of *helpfulness* after he lost his DT status/got exposed for his scamming schemes.

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October 02, 2017, 10:10:01 PM
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Hey Lauda, I have an extortion scheme that I need investigated. Can you help us out?
I remember when you were actually helpful to people, rather than making snide remarks in inappropriate situations. Can we get that Quickseller back?
He was never helpful to anyone, in a sense where he actually cared about the people who he was *helping*. He was pretending to care, with his ultimate, yet malicious goal to achieve DT status and later strengthen it. My statement is backed up by evidence. The evidence is his obvious lack of *helpfulness* after he lost his DT status/got exposed for his scamming schemes.
So does that mean you cannot help me with my extortion investigation?

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October 03, 2017, 08:06:47 AM
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Dear Moderator,

Worldcore was also included ion Deloitte report about Fintech - https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/global/Documents/About-Deloitte/central-europe/ce-fintech-in-cee-region-2016.pdf

Mosprognoz with his totally false and fake "information" showed up again here.

We kindly request to recover our English ANN thread.

Thank you!
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Last edit: October 03, 2017, 08:23:49 AM by FintechEU
 #20

This Might help the case.

It would really be helpful when the Ann thread is up so that we can see the patterns of posting from those accounts.  The above screenshot is just a snapshot from google webcache.

Last thing i remember is mosprognoz started questioning the worldcore's legalities and all of it are answered. Then he began to post a lot of Scam Accusations and all was answered on that thread. This is not right as Scam accusations should be inside the Scam Accusations thread. He makes the Worldcore thread a place of discussion of this Scam accusations.

mosprognoz statement are being backed up by bambarnia(Can't provide you a screenshot since the thread is down).

Signs that mosprognoz and barbarnia are the same person.

- They always backed up their statement.
Proofs
https://web.archive.org/web/20171002171136
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094569;sa=showPosts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts
https://web.archive.org/web/20171002172049/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts

24h volume 1600 USD. This coin will share the grave with deeponion very soon. Free airdrop is a scam. I'm sure it is the same scammy scenario. Check out this link ! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057229.msg20520155#msg20520155

It is a scam yea ! 100 % premined and 100 % designed to enrich it's creator. Actually this is not an airdrop, it's signature campaign. So dev will airdrop pay for sigs just 10 or 20 % of premine and the rest he will stake and try to sell slowly. But the problem is that nobody will buy this shitcoin. There is no github, there are no innovations,  there is no team of devs, just unknown and shady person. We already have the same deeponion scam with massive amount of shills involved, but deeponion is collapsing and the same will happen to this shitcoin within a couple of days. You can try to scam some dumb newbies ,but there is no way to cheat the market.    

 - Two accounts are created on the same date and at almost the same time
mosprognoz - Date Registered:   August 03, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
bambarnia  - Date Registered:   August 03, 2017, 07:10:42 PM

Coincidence?

The spam of Scam accusations continues the next day then, a private message on facebook appears.
 

mosprognoz continues to spread FUD and LIES on the thread later that day. bambarnia suddenly stopped and not backed mosprognoz statement. Also at that time when bambarnia is inactive, many newbie accounts are created to attack the Ann thread and also the Russian thread. jemura and mosprognoz started to spread some lies in the Ann thread. Maria Uni was the first one to be spotted on spreading FUD and Scam accusations on Russian thread.

Signs that jemura and Maria Uni are controlled by mosprognoz.

- Like mosprognoz, jemura and Maria Uni are spreading the same scam Accusations.
- Like mosprognoz and bambarnia, jemura and Maria Uni are both created on the same date. This is the sign that the threat of facebook private message is real and this person are using all kinds of dirty tricks to extort.
Maria Uni - Date Registered:   September 20, 2017, 02:26:12 PM
jemura - Date Registered:   September 20, 2017, 02:26:12 PM

- Like mosprognoz and bambarnia, they always backed up their arguments. This time, in russian thread. No need to translate this. Just wanted to point a sign that these accounts are controlled by a single person/group.

мнe нpaвитcя нacoнoв пpocтo.
нo oн нe oтвeчaeт взaимнocтью

нaдeюcь, гycapы нe вылeзyт и нe cтaнyт пoшлить пo пoвoдy eгo opиeнтaции

Hy я пpoтив гeeв ничeгo нe имeю, вce cвoбoдны в выбope opиeнтaции и Hacoнoв тoжe, нo тyт пoнимaющиe люди yжe oцeнили  oтчeт. Я пpocтo yдивляюcь нaглocти этиx людeй кoтopыe ocмeливaютcя пpeдocтaвить тaкoй oтчeт ! Bce ICO этo ничтo инoe кaк paзвoд. Эти caмыe ICO coбpaли c дoвepчивыx лoxoв миллиoны и чтo ? Ceйчac эти тoкeны кyплeнный cкaжeм зa дoллap никoмy нe нyжны и зa пoл цeны нa биpжax. Cдeлaть кpacивый caйт и нaпиcaть "Бeлyю бyмaгy" бoльшoгo тpyдa нe cocтoвляeт a тoкeны мoжнo пeчaтaть нa плaтфopмe eфиpa бeз oгpaничeнии пpитoм кaкиx тo ocoбыx знaний этo нe тpeбyeт.


The rest of the newbie accounts.

Veleor
- Only posted on Worldcore Russian thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1177936;sa=showPosts
- Date Registered:   September 29, 2017, 11:24:07 PM

Matananan
- Account revived after a few months. Only to post on Deeponion and WorldCore
- Signature is also a clear sign that this account is used for shilling and owned by mosprognoz. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1006668;sa=showPosts

Reyzex
- Revived after a month only to post in Worldcore russian thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1071232;sa=showPosts

Bitcointalk profiles of linked accounts.
mosprognoz : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094569
bambarnia : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553
Reyzex : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1071232
jemura : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1162728
Maria Uni : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1162311









Thank you so much!

We sincerely hope that such chain of events can be considered by administration as a proof of the things which we are talking about and can be a reason for permanent ban of these accounts and recovery of our English ANN thread.
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