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Пpивeтcтвyю.
Я кaк paз cмc aгpeгaтop https://sms-rassilka.com вoзникaют pяд вoпpocoв:

1) Кaк бyдeт peшaтьcя вoпpoc c УФAC в cлyчae пpeтeнзий (cпpoc бyдeт c тoгo oт кoгo oтпpaвляeтcя cмc, в вaшeм cлyчae c физ. лицa)
2) B пoлe oт кoгo cмc бyдeт cтoять нoмep физ. лицa?
3) Кaкaя cкopocть oтпpaвки cмc?
4) Bы бyдитe пepeдaвaть cтaтyc дocтaвки cмc?

Пoкa нa этoм ocтaнoвлюcь c вoпpocaмиSmiley
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October 03, 2017, 06:48:36 PM
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This project somehow is very difficult to understand since it be using the unused text messages. Does this mean that every balance that we had will be deducted by $0.01 for every token?

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October 03, 2017, 09:17:30 PM
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Пpивeтcтвyю.
Я кaк paз cмc aгpeгaтop https://sms-rassilka.com вoзникaют pяд вoпpocoв:

1) Кaк бyдeт peшaтьcя вoпpoc c УФAC в cлyчae пpeтeнзий (cпpoc бyдeт c тoгo oт кoгo oтпpaвляeтcя cмc, в вaшeм cлyчae c физ. лицa)
2) B пoлe oт кoгo cмc бyдeт cтoять нoмep физ. лицa?
3) Кaкaя cкopocть oтпpaвки cмc?
4) Bы бyдитe пepeдaвaть cтaтyc дocтaвки cмc?

Пoкa нa этoм ocтaнoвлюcь c вoпpocaмиSmiley


Hello team,

Thanks for your question. We would like to kindly remind you that this is an English-speaking branch of the forum.

1. Terms and conditions, as well as regulations vary significantly from country to country and also depend on mobile network operators. In some countries it is allowed to send A2P (Application 2 Person) messages from SIM cards, in others it might not. You have to check the terms and conditions of your mobile network operator in order to determine whether your service provider can block your SIM card or not. Please ensure that you comply with terms and conditions of your mobile network provider.

By the way, SMS aggregators, such as you guys at sms-rassilka.com can also become part of the network and offer your delivery capabilities to all members.

2. Sender ID

3. The speed of delivery will depend on the number of Miners we have in a particular country. The throughput might be relatively low initially and grow gradually as more and more Miners join our network.

4. Yes, the delivery receipts will be supported. But more interestingly, the Proof-of-Delivery is provided with embedded Testing infrastructure, that consists of Testing subsystem which mixes test text messages into live traffic. Such embedded testing process is a way to prove that the miner works well and doesn’t abuse the system by providing fake delivery receipts.

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October 03, 2017, 09:18:17 PM
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whats the update

Please let us know what information you are waiting for exactly so that we could help.

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October 03, 2017, 09:24:46 PM
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This project somehow is very difficult to understand since it be using the unused text messages. Does this mean that every balance that we had will be deducted by $0.01 for every token?

The concept is very simple. Let me illustrate it with a practical example:

You can send 5000 SMS/month from your phone with your current mobile monthly subscription. You normally send only 100 SMS/month and the rest of the messages are unused. With SMSCHAIN app you will be able to sell 4900 of your text messages to companies which need to deliver SMS messages to the subscribers and you allow them to do it from your phone (of course, you will also have full control over the type of messages they send). In such case, you can sell your 4900 SMS at 1 cent each and earn 49$.

If you pay per each SMS message with your provider, it might not work for you of course, unless you sell your SMS at a higher price than you buy it from your provider.

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Today on TV this project showed. A great idea is to exchange an unused limit. That's just not clear how this project will support mobile operators? I think that it is not profitable for them at all.

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October 03, 2017, 11:12:49 PM
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This project somehow is very difficult to understand since it be using the unused text messages. Does this mean that every balance that we had will be deducted by $0.01 for every token?

The concept is very simple. Let me illustrate it with a practical example:

You can send 5000 SMS/month from your phone with your current mobile monthly subscription. You normally send only 100 SMS/month and the rest of the messages are unused. With SMSCHAIN app you will be able to sell 4900 of your text messages to companies which need to deliver SMS messages to the subscribers and you allow them to do it from your phone (of course, you will also have full control over the type of messages they send). In such case, you can sell your 4900 SMS at 1 cent each and earn 49$.

If you pay per each SMS message with your provider, it might not work for you of course, unless you sell your SMS at a higher price than you buy it from your provider.

So let me get it, You said that with the SMSCHAIN app the person will be able to sell his balance of text messages, So the person here will rent his phone number to companies to use it in their marketing campaigns or what ?



That's more or less correct with the exception that you will be able to control exactly what type of messages companies are sending via your phone. For example, you can opt to deliver messages only for Google, Facebook etc, which are transactional (one-time passwords, alerts) and non-marketing in nature. If you would want to deliver marketing messages as well, there will be an option also. However, you will have the full control over the types of messages

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October 04, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
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Today on TV this project showed. A great idea is to exchange an unused limit. That's just not clear how this project will support mobile operators? I think that it is not profitable for them at all.

Terms and conditions, as well as regulations,  vary significantly from country to country and also depend on mobile network operators. In some countries, it is allowed to send A2P (Application-2-Person) messages from SIM cards, in others it might not. You have to check the terms and conditions of your mobile network operator in order to determine whether your service provider can block your SIM card or not.

Besides that, various operators have different criteria when it comes to blocking SIM cards. Most of them look in volumes which are sent from SIM cards on daily basis and block the SIM card if this limit is exceeded. From our experience, it is safe to send a few hundred messages a day without having any issues in most of the countries we know.

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It is very interesting project, but there is not the bounty and airdrop.
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October 04, 2017, 12:58:10 PM
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It is very interesting project, but there is not the bounty and airdrop.

Bounty is coming soon, we will announce it in another thread

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October 04, 2017, 03:45:35 PM
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Пpивeтcтвyю.
Я кaк paз cмc aгpeгaтop https://sms-rassilka.com вoзникaют pяд вoпpocoв:

1) Кaк бyдeт peшaтьcя вoпpoc c УФAC в cлyчae пpeтeнзий (cпpoc бyдeт c тoгo oт кoгo oтпpaвляeтcя cмc, в вaшeм cлyчae c физ. лицa)
2) B пoлe oт кoгo cмc бyдeт cтoять нoмep физ. лицa?
3) Кaкaя cкopocть oтпpaвки cмc?
4) Bы бyдитe пepeдaвaть cтaтyc дocтaвки cмc?

Пoкa нa этoм ocтaнoвлюcь c вoпpocaмиSmiley


Hello team,

Thanks for your question. We would like to kindly remind you that this is an English-speaking branch of the forum.

1. Terms and conditions, as well as regulations vary significantly from country to country and also depend on mobile network operators. In some countries it is allowed to send A2P (Application 2 Person) messages from SIM cards, in others it might not. You have to check the terms and conditions of your mobile network operator in order to determine whether your service provider can block your SIM card or not. Please ensure that you comply with terms and conditions of your mobile network provider.

By the way, SMS aggregators, such as you guys at sms-rassilka.com can also become part of the network and offer your delivery capabilities to all members.

2. Sender ID

3. The speed of delivery will depend on the number of Miners we have in a particular country. The throughput might be relatively low initially and grow gradually as more and more Miners join our network.

4. Yes, the delivery receipts will be supported. But more interestingly, the Proof-of-Delivery is provided with embedded Testing infrastructure, that consists of Testing subsystem which mixes test text messages into live traffic. Such embedded testing process is a way to prove that the miner works well and doesn’t abuse the system by providing fake delivery receipts.


Thank you for the clarification.
What are the conditions for cooperation?
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October 04, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
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Пpивeтcтвyю.
Я кaк paз cмc aгpeгaтop https://sms-rassilka.com вoзникaют pяд вoпpocoв:

1) Кaк бyдeт peшaтьcя вoпpoc c УФAC в cлyчae пpeтeнзий (cпpoc бyдeт c тoгo oт кoгo oтпpaвляeтcя cмc, в вaшeм cлyчae c физ. лицa)
2) B пoлe oт кoгo cмc бyдeт cтoять нoмep физ. лицa?
3) Кaкaя cкopocть oтпpaвки cмc?
4) Bы бyдитe пepeдaвaть cтaтyc дocтaвки cмc?

Пoкa нa этoм ocтaнoвлюcь c вoпpocaмиSmiley


Hello team,

Thanks for your question. We would like to kindly remind you that this is an English-speaking branch of the forum.

1. Terms and conditions, as well as regulations vary significantly from country to country and also depend on mobile network operators. In some countries it is allowed to send A2P (Application 2 Person) messages from SIM cards, in others it might not. You have to check the terms and conditions of your mobile network operator in order to determine whether your service provider can block your SIM card or not. Please ensure that you comply with terms and conditions of your mobile network provider.

By the way, SMS aggregators, such as you guys at sms-rassilka.com can also become part of the network and offer your delivery capabilities to all members.

2. Sender ID

3. The speed of delivery will depend on the number of Miners we have in a particular country. The throughput might be relatively low initially and grow gradually as more and more Miners join our network.

4. Yes, the delivery receipts will be supported. But more interestingly, the Proof-of-Delivery is provided with embedded Testing infrastructure, that consists of Testing subsystem which mixes test text messages into live traffic. Such embedded testing process is a way to prove that the miner works well and doesn’t abuse the system by providing fake delivery receipts.


Thank you for the clarification.
What are the conditions for cooperation?

Everyone will be able to participate in the network once it is launched. You can purchase our tokens with 40% discount at the moment and save money on it when the platform is ready

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October 04, 2017, 06:46:00 PM
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The platform looks promising.
Will look forward to it.

Can I get any mail ID of marketing department of smschain platform?

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October 04, 2017, 07:36:31 PM
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The platform looks promising.
Will look forward to it.

Can I get any mail ID of marketing department of smschain platform?

Thanks and Regards

You can join our telegram or slack groups, the whole team is there:

https://smschain.herokuapp.com
https://t.me/smschainofficial

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October 05, 2017, 08:18:01 AM
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New article about why SMS industry needs blockchain: https://medium.com/smschainorg/why-does-sms-delivery-need-the-blockchain-47ff98d55e9f

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This project somehow is very difficult to understand since it be using the unused text messages. Does this mean that every balance that we had will be deducted by $0.01 for every token?

The concept is very simple. Let me illustrate it with a practical example:

You can send 5000 SMS/month from your phone with your current mobile monthly subscription. You normally send only 100 SMS/month and the rest of the messages are unused. With SMSCHAIN app you will be able to sell 4900 of your text messages to companies which need to deliver SMS messages to the subscribers and you allow them to do it from your phone (of course, you will also have full control over the type of messages they send). In such case, you can sell your 4900 SMS at 1 cent each and earn 49$.

If you pay per each SMS message with your provider, it might not work for you of course, unless you sell your SMS at a higher price than you buy it from your provider.

OK, this sounds like a great idea. I didn't know the a2p market is so huge! Will follow your project for sure, and join the bounty.

PS. Is the presale live now?
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This project somehow is very difficult to understand since it be using the unused text messages. Does this mean that every balance that we had will be deducted by $0.01 for every token?

The concept is very simple. Let me illustrate it with a practical example:

You can send 5000 SMS/month from your phone with your current mobile monthly subscription. You normally send only 100 SMS/month and the rest of the messages are unused. With SMSCHAIN app you will be able to sell 4900 of your text messages to companies which need to deliver SMS messages to the subscribers and you allow them to do it from your phone (of course, you will also have full control over the type of messages they send). In such case, you can sell your 4900 SMS at 1 cent each and earn 49$.

If you pay per each SMS message with your provider, it might not work for you of course, unless you sell your SMS at a higher price than you buy it from your provider.

OK, this sounds like a great idea. I didn't know the a2p market is so huge! Will follow your project for sure, and join the bounty.

PS. Is the presale live now?


Hi Sud, yes, our bounty is coming soon. Presale is live now, you can find it at our website: https://smschain.org

However, if you are interested to contribute a significant amount, please send us an email at info@smschain.org to learn more about discounts.

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October 06, 2017, 01:20:45 PM
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SMS CHAIN BLOG POST UPDATE

Please check out a new blog post from our COO Oleg Makarov on Medium.
https://goo.gl/fTXFpA

Please don’t forget that Pre-ICO is open.
You can purchase our SMSTO tokens with 40% discount right now!

 - Current price: 1 ETH = 490 SMSTO
 - Set gas limit: 30 000
 - Set gas price: 21gwel

SMS Chain is a real business in a real industry with a solid experience in development
of telecommunication services and products.

Don't miss the opportunity!




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While people are reserving bounty and translations, mate Wtf? sms aggregators, network operators and semi-private companies are delivering all the

Messages and they are charging people for it, who says everyone has free unused messages? every time I send sms I pay something like $0.001 but

How could they expose themselves to blockchain in decentralized sphere? they'll not share their profits with people. you just posted a simple picture

Mate expecting us to invest on tiny letters and fake team members?
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While people are reserving bounty and translations, mate Wtf? sms aggregators, network operators and semi-private companies are delivering all the

Messages and they are charging people for it, who says everyone has free unused messages? every time I send sms I pay something like $0.001 but

How could they expose themselves to blockchain in decentralized sphere? they'll not share their profits with people. you just posted a simple picture

Mate expecting us to invest on tiny letters and fake team members?

Thanks for your feedback, however, where do you see us mentioning that everyone has free used messages? There are obviously people who pay a fixed subscription fee on a monthly basis which includes SMS that is not fully used throughout the month. You might not be one of them so this app will not be for you.

What profits are you talking about? You will be able to decide yourself at what price you want to sell your messages, it will be a fully decentralised market based on smart contracts.

Also, what led you to believe that our team members are fake? You can organise a skype call if you are so sceptical Wink

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Hi, is there bounty campaigns too? tnx
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Any Bounty or Airdrop?
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PRE-ICO NOW WITH 20% DISCOUNT  start 04 hour this is a project good but why no bounty ?
how do investors know if ico will be in the next few hours if there is no supporters?
I think you need to make a bounty for the supporters to participate in spreading SMSCHAIN
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bounty ?
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Hello, let me do urdu translations.

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good afternoon. Tell me whether the bounty company is twitter and facebook Huh
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What is your advantage between BIRDCHAIN A2p ico?
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Do you have bounty campaign for social media? Thanks!
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October 26, 2017, 01:02:06 PM
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NEW BLOG POST

Dear friends,

Please read the new article in our blog on Medium!
How Much Reward Can An Individual Earn With SMSCHAIN:
>http://bit.ly/2i690ma

Pre-order is still open  >https://smschain.org
Please welcome!



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I still cannot imagine how this concept is profitable to the token holders. Yes, I do understand that we can sell our unused sms, but how do we sure that we can sell our sms and to make them sold out?
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Do you need Filipino translation?

My previous works can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yfooURxclJnh51EqSZ3L7ubwRV-5V07MlQjO48YMxdM/edit#gid=0
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https://icoreward.com/dashboard/SMSchain   I really like this portal, it's very convenient and understandable!
I Joined the Bounty campaign!
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Hello!
Interesting idea.
SMS, which will send a member of the SMSCHAIN-network, it is unused SMS from the mobile operator (monthly package)?
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in here, in this thread i just look about ICO but not complete, maybe you can add item about rule and information about the ICO will be start, so many people can prepare to join it

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Hi, is there bounty campaigns too? tnx

Yes, bounty has started. Here is the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2344257.0

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PRE-ICO NOW WITH 20% DISCOUNT  start 04 hour this is a project good but why no bounty ?
how do investors know if ico will be in the next few hours if there is no supporters?
I think you need to make a bounty for the supporters to participate in spreading SMSCHAIN
good luck

We have bounty, have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2344257.0

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good afternoon. Tell me whether the bounty company is twitter and facebook Huh

Here it is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2344257.0

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November 02, 2017, 07:22:52 PM
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What is your advantage between BIRDCHAIN A2p ico?

The idea is more or less the same for both, SMSCHAIN and BIRDCHAIN. I would say, there are 2 main differences:

1. Birdchain does not have embedded delivery quality control, at least from what we can see in their white paper. Without Proof-of-delivery the system would not work properly and SMSCHAIN has a lot of experience in this field and has already created tools which enable the system to automatically control the delivery quality, which can be faked otherwise. I am sure that Birdchain will realise this at some point and implement something similar, however, it will take much longer time as they have no experience in this field at all, while we have a working solution which is currently being used by most top SMS aggregators in the world.

2. Birdchain is quite behind in terms of development as well as conceptually. Their white paper hardly describes how the blockchain part of their platform would function, they do not provide any technical details, unlike us. We already made a lot of research and development on this subject and we already know how to implement every aspect of our system.

Overall, Birdchain just came up with the concept, however, did not have enough time to think about the technical side of implementation. In contrast, we already have working prototypes of the product and it has been live since 2016.

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Do you have bounty campaign for social media? Thanks!

Yes, here it is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2344257.0

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I still cannot imagine how this concept is profitable to the token holders. Yes, I do understand that we can sell our unused sms, but how do we sure that we can sell our sms and to make them sold out?

SMSTO is used for mutual settlements between members of SMSCHAIN network and also plays important role in mining and Node fee distribution process.

The amount of SMSTO balance determines Miner’s priority in traffic distribution. This means that Miners with a higher amount of SMSTO will be able to sell more text messages on daily basis and gain higher financial return. Nodes with higher SMSTO balance will also earn higher fee percentage per transaction. This creates significant demand for SMSTO from the side of Miners and Nodes which are actively participating in the system.

On the other hand, there will be a demand for SMSTO from the side of companies which would like to buy delivery of text messages. They need to buy SMSTO in order for their SMS campaign to be executed.

If you put it in perspective, you will see that there is a demand for SMSTO from all members of the system. SMS miners and Nodes will want to accumulate certain amount of SMSTO on their balances in order to retain high priority in the mining process. At the same time, sending entities would also need to buy SMSTO from other members in order to execute SMS campaign. This will inevitably create a natural scarcity of tokens and therefore increasing demand while having limited supply.

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Do you need Filipino translation?

My previous works can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yfooURxclJnh51EqSZ3L7ubwRV-5V07MlQjO48YMxdM/edit#gid=0

Please check it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2344257.0

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Hello!
Interesting idea.
SMS, which will send a member of the SMSCHAIN-network, it is unused SMS from the mobile operator (monthly package)?

Yes, you are right

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in here, in this thread i just look about ICO but not complete, maybe you can add item about rule and information about the ICO will be start, so many people can prepare to join it

Thanks for the suggestion, we indeed need to update it. Our ICO starts on the 20th of November.

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So the min. soft cap is 16,5K ETH? Without reaching that goal the development won't start?
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What is your advantage between BIRDCHAIN A2p ico?

The idea is more or less the same for both, SMSCHAIN and BIRDCHAIN. I would say, there are 2 main differences:

1. Birdchain does not have embedded delivery quality control, at least from what we can see in their white paper. Without Proof-of-delivery the system would not work properly and SMSCHAIN has a lot of experience in this field and has already created tools which enable the system to automatically control the delivery quality, which can be faked otherwise. I am sure that Birdchain will realise this at some point and implement something similar, however, it will take much longer time as they have no experience in this field at all, while we have a working solution which is currently being used by most top SMS aggregators in the world.

2. Birdchain is quite behind in terms of development as well as conceptually. Their white paper hardly describes how the blockchain part of their platform would function, they do not provide any technical details, unlike us. We already made a lot of research and development on this subject and we already know how to implement every aspect of our system.

Overall, Birdchain just came up with the concept, however, did not have enough time to think about the technical side of implementation. In contrast, we already have working prototypes of the product and it has been live since 2016.

Hi,

Birdchain team is here. I would like to first state that we do not want to start badmouthing on other projects. Thus before you make your statements about other projects please do a thoruogh research about the project and team.

1. Our team is already 10 years in the A2P SMS market thus I can clearly state that we have all the required Know-How, Experience, Technology, Connections and Clients in place.  And you are one of our smaller clients.
2. Our whitepaper has been updated since the last version you are reffering to. In addition a new update coming soon in a few days.
3. Your product from 2016 has no relationship with what you are trying to create now.

If anyone has any questions regarding our project please ask directly and do not refer to people who are bias Smiley. Visit us at www.birdchain.io

P.s. Key difference between our solutions is that we will allow the general public to sell SMS which will have bigger global impact, adaptability of the app and appeal while SMSCHAIN will focus on few token holders.

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November 06, 2017, 07:35:03 PM
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What is your advantage between BIRDCHAIN A2p ico?

The idea is more or less the same for both, SMSCHAIN and BIRDCHAIN. I would say, there are 2 main differences:

1. Birdchain does not have embedded delivery quality control, at least from what we can see in their white paper. Without Proof-of-delivery the system would not work properly and SMSCHAIN has a lot of experience in this field and has already created tools which enable the system to automatically control the delivery quality, which can be faked otherwise. I am sure that Birdchain will realise this at some point and implement something similar, however, it will take much longer time as they have no experience in this field at all, while we have a working solution which is currently being used by most top SMS aggregators in the world.

2. Birdchain is quite behind in terms of development as well as conceptually. Their white paper hardly describes how the blockchain part of their platform would function, they do not provide any technical details, unlike us. We already made a lot of research and development on this subject and we already know how to implement every aspect of our system.

Overall, Birdchain just came up with the concept, however, did not have enough time to think about the technical side of implementation. In contrast, we already have working prototypes of the product and it has been live since 2016.

Hi,

Birdchain team is here. I would like to first state that we do not want to start badmouthing on other projects. Thus before you make your statements about other projects please do a thoruogh research about the project and team.

1. Our team is already 10 years in the A2P SMS market thus I can clearly state that we have all the required Know-How, Experience, Technology, Connections and Clients in place.  And you are one of our smaller clients.
2. Our whitepaper has been updated since the last version you are reffering to. In addition a new update coming soon in a few days.
3. Your product from 2016 has no relationship with what you are trying to create now.

If anyone has any questions regarding our project please ask directly and do not refer to people who are bias Smiley. Visit us at www.birdchain.io

P.s. Key difference between our solutions is that we will allow the general public to sell SMS which will have bigger global impact, adaptability of the app and appeal while SMSCHAIN will focus on few token holders.



Hi Birdchain. We have made our research about your project before making the post and we expressed our opinion about the advantages which we currently have in comparison to your project. Stating such advantages has nothing to do with badmouthing.

1. You definitely have significant experience on the A2P SMS market. What you don't have experience in is SMS quality testing, which is essential part of any similar project to function. If you do not have proper quality control implemented, you will constantly face issues with fake DLRs and general low quality delivery problems. We have certainly much more experience in the domain of SMS quality testing and this is a simple fact which we have stated. I am sure you will be able to figure this out yourself, however, it will definitely take more time for you since you have to do it from scratch.

2. Unfortunately, we are not monitoring your white paper on daily basis. However, we had a quick look at it now and we still see almost no technical details about how the blockchain part of your system is expected to work. You cannot compare it to our detailed explanation (ref: https://smschain.org/wp_smschain.pdf?v=1.2.6 pages 14-20 ). We dedicate at least 6 full pages of our white paper to blockchain infrastructure details and we do not see anything comparable in yours. This can mean one of 3 things: 1. You are still behind in research when it comes to the blockchain part of the system. 2. You have done the research, however, for some reason you still have not added it to your white paper. 3. There is a detailed description in your white paper, we just can't find it. The only relevant technical information we have found in your white paper was reference to Plasma + IOTA. Hence, we are inclined to believe the 1st case.

3. Our product which is live since 2016 had direct relation to what we are creating. It serves as a prototype of a testing node, which will be an essential part of SMSCHAIN network.

P.S. we haven't promoted our website on any of your channels as yet, is it ok for us to do it as you did it in our thread? Wink

P.P.S "Key difference between our solutions is that we will allow the general public to sell SMS which will have bigger global impact, adaptability of the app and appeal while SMSCHAIN will focus on few token holders." - that is not the case. SMSCHAIN will also allow general public to sell SMS and will not focus only on token holders.

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how to work this project and what smschain will airdrop ?
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What is your advantage between BIRDCHAIN A2p ico?

The idea is more or less the same for both, SMSCHAIN and BIRDCHAIN. I would say, there are 2 main differences:

1. Birdchain does not have embedded delivery quality control, at least from what we can see in their white paper. Without Proof-of-delivery the system would not work properly and SMSCHAIN has a lot of experience in this field and has already created tools which enable the system to automatically control the delivery quality, which can be faked otherwise. I am sure that Birdchain will realise this at some point and implement something similar, however, it will take much longer time as they have no experience in this field at all, while we have a working solution which is currently being used by most top SMS aggregators in the world.

2. Birdchain is quite behind in terms of development as well as conceptually. Their white paper hardly describes how the blockchain part of their platform would function, they do not provide any technical details, unlike us. We already made a lot of research and development on this subject and we already know how to implement every aspect of our system.

Overall, Birdchain just came up with the concept, however, did not have enough time to think about the technical side of implementation. In contrast, we already have working prototypes of the product and it has been live since 2016.

Hi,

Birdchain team is here. I would like to first state that we do not want to start badmouthing on other projects. Thus before you make your statements about other projects please do a thoruogh research about the project and team.

1. Our team is already 10 years in the A2P SMS market thus I can clearly state that we have all the required Know-How, Experience, Technology, Connections and Clients in place.  And you are one of our smaller clients.
2. Our whitepaper has been updated since the last version you are reffering to. In addition a new update coming soon in a few days.
3. Your product from 2016 has no relationship with what you are trying to create now.

If anyone has any questions regarding our project please ask directly and do not refer to people who are bias Smiley. Visit us at www.birdchain.io

P.s. Key difference between our solutions is that we will allow the general public to sell SMS which will have bigger global impact, adaptability of the app and appeal while SMSCHAIN will focus on few token holders.



Hi Birdchain. We have made our research about your project before making the post and we expressed our opinion about the advantages which we currently have in comparison to your project. Stating such advantages has nothing to do with badmouthing.

1. You definitely have significant experience on the A2P SMS market. What you don't have experience in is SMS quality testing, which is essential part of any similar project to function. If you do not have proper quality control implemented, you will constantly face issues with fake DLRs and general low quality delivery problems. We have certainly much more experience in the domain of SMS quality testing and this is a simple fact which we have stated. I am sure you will be able to figure this out yourself, however, it will definitely take more time for you since you have to do it from scratch.

2. Unfortunately, we are not monitoring your white paper on daily basis. However, we had a quick look at it now and we still see almost no technical details about how the blockchain part of your system is expected to work. You cannot compare it to our detailed explanation (ref: https://smschain.org/wp_smschain.pdf?v=1.2.6 pages 14-20 ). We dedicate at least 6 full pages of our white paper to blockchain infrastructure details and we do not see anything comparable in yours. This can mean one of 3 things: 1. You are still behind in research when it comes to the blockchain part of the system. 2. You have done the research, however, for some reason you still have not added it to your white paper. 3. There is a detailed description in your white paper, we just can't find it. The only relevant technical information we have found in your white paper was reference to Plasma + IOTA. Hence, we are inclined to believe the 1st case.

3. Our product which is live since 2016 had direct relation to what we are creating. It serves as a prototype of a testing node, which will be an essential part of SMSCHAIN network.

P.S. we haven't promoted our website on any of your channels as yet, is it ok for us to do it as you did it in our thread? Wink

P.P.S "Key difference between our solutions is that we will allow the general public to sell SMS which will have bigger global impact, adaptability of the app and appeal while SMSCHAIN will focus on few token holders." - that is not the case. SMSCHAIN will also allow general public to sell SMS and will not focus only on token holders.

We see that you will disapoint a lot of people for this we are very sorry.



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SMSchain, I am curious about what it looks like to sell your unused SMS. Will strangers be receiving SMS from my phone number and then I will be receiving replies back that were intended for the purchasing company? Will I (my phone number) remain anonymous to the receivers of SMS coming from my line?
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when is presentation?
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So smschain is basically a marketplace for selling unused sms, right? I think it is a nice concept but i do not like if the sms will be sent through the number of the person selling them. I hope the buyer will have to use his own number.

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SMSchain, I am curious about what it looks like to sell your unused SMS. Will strangers be receiving SMS from my phone number and then I will be receiving replies back that were intended for the purchasing company? Will I (my phone number) remain anonymous to the receivers of SMS coming from my line?
good question, and how about different countries, didnt get it, how it works.
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Romanian ANN translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399045.new#new

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ico price is 0.002 eth
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Dear Community,

We have some important information concerning the ICO.

This week an agreement was settled with a strategic investor who will invest 5M USD in the project SMSCHAIN.
In result of this, our CEO has decided to call off the ICO, which was supposed to take place November 20th, 2017. With this agreement, the team has raised the sufficient funds to proceed with the development and implementations of the project according to the original road map.

Please note that,

-  All individual investments collected so far as of today will be returned back to the wallets they originaly proceeded. The funds will be returned to all  wallets between 20th and 23rd November 2017.

-  Tokens of the SMS project will be once again available for purchase once the project is developed and launched.

-  Bounty campaign tokens and those won during the Telegram channel lottery will be fully paid until December 20, 2017.

We welcome you to stay in touch. There is a lot of work ahead on the way to success.

Best regards,
SMSCHAIN Team

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Dear Community,

We have some important information concerning the ICO.

This week an agreement was settled with a strategic investor who will invest 5M USD in the project SMSCHAIN.
In result of this, our CEO has decided to call off the ICO, which was supposed to take place November 20th, 2017. With this agreement, the team has raised the sufficient funds to proceed with the development and implementations of the project according to the original road map.

Please note that,

-  All individual investments collected so far as of today will be returned back to the wallets they originaly proceeded. The funds will be returned to all  wallets between 20th and 23rd November 2017.

-  Tokens of the SMS project will be once again available for purchase once the project is developed and launched.

-  Bounty campaign tokens and those won during the Telegram channel lottery will be fully paid until December 20, 2017.

We welcome you to stay in touch. There is a lot of work ahead on the way to success.

Best regards,
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Congratulations on raising your capital but we are very sorry to see that you have failled your community...  On the other hand we are not going to give up to the corporations and stick with the community. Thus all those who believe in projects supported by the people join us on our ICO Saturday November 18 15:00:00 GMT.

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and who will be your miner now? Only an idiot will buy these tokens (if the only investor tries to sell them).
Good luck, you collected money, but destroyed your own idea.
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BTC wow  Smiley  Grin Real EtherGold EGD
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Guys, and I took part in your bounty. What now to do? All work was in vain?
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Guys, and I took part in your bounty. What now to do? All work was in vain?

We are waiting for payment for the campaign bounty until December 20.  I think with one investor the development of the project will be smooth and gradual.
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Guys, and I took part in your bounty. What now to do? All work was in vain?

We are waiting for payment for the campaign bounty until December 20.  I think with one investor the development of the project will be smooth and gradual.
I got it.
I sat and thought what will be with the project. Actually, if one investor - it is better. One arrangement and smoother development of the project. And confidence that money will be all at once and it is possible to develop the project, without distracting.
I wish good luck to the project.
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Do you know when the app in going to be launched? And is it true that tokens will accumulate by selling my sms?
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December 08, 2017, 11:05:06 AM
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Here such there was a team remarkable. From the very beginning - any more don't hold a promise.
Probably, banal scam. And you represent how they could deceive investors!
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December 08, 2017, 11:34:36 AM
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All investors need to be very cautious, because cases of fraud have become frequent, and it is normal if you count the number of new projects.

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December 16, 2017, 02:34:39 AM
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All investors need to be very cautious, because cases of fraud have become frequent, and it is normal if you count the number of new projects.

Yes agree, but if it intends to invest (especially for the long term), the investor can buy the smschain token after the project has been developed and released. Yes hopefully this project is good for the future.
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December 16, 2017, 03:54:41 AM
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All investors need to be very cautious, because cases of fraud have become frequent, and it is normal if you count the number of new projects.

Yes agree, but if it intends to invest (especially for the long term), the investor can buy the smschain token after the project has been developed and released. Yes hopefully this project is good for the future.

More careful in reading the driskripsi the project. And more importantly we see first team in it. If we don't yet know the team inside it will be good we used to read the profile. Hopefully this project good for us participants and investors well for the future.
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January 08, 2018, 09:14:37 AM
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Hi,
when will the payment for bounty campaigns be made?

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January 09, 2018, 10:06:22 AM
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When the planned listing on stock exchanges? applied to add somewhere?

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January 10, 2018, 03:07:02 PM
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As most sms packages arnt actually unlimited.Is there any way to get around this and still sell the maximum amount of sms each month ??
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January 15, 2018, 07:42:09 PM
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So is this project dead? Seems to be pretty stagnant
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January 21, 2018, 12:55:08 AM
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January 22, 2018, 05:52:11 AM
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this is a great idea is to exchange an unused limit. But its  not clear how this project will support mobile operators? I think that it is not profitable for them at all.
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January 26, 2018, 11:27:45 PM
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if the app does not come out until some time in the summer, what are we to do with the tokens in the meantime?
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February 07, 2018, 08:22:14 AM
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Hi,
when will the payment for bounty campaigns be made?


The payment for the bounty just arrived.  Check the wallets, the latest news where you can read?
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February 07, 2018, 09:33:33 PM
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Hi,
when will the payment for bounty campaigns be made?


The payment for the bounty just arrived.  Check the wallets, the latest news where you can read?

I received my bounty tokens today, waiting for the launch of the app later this year now:)
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February 08, 2018, 03:35:05 PM
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Hello, i just want to inform you that SMSCHAIN hasbeen listed on coinwikia.com :
https://www.coinwikia.com/ico/smschain/
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February 08, 2018, 03:37:50 PM
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Nice presentation! Promising Smiley Do you have an idea of terms for the bounty and when you will be sharing about it? Any airdrops in the works?

Smiley Smiley Smiley
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March 05, 2018, 11:10:28 AM
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100% SCAM
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April 06, 2018, 06:25:13 AM
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looks like a comprehensive project that i want to follow it but im hoping to more update information about this project
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April 10, 2018, 04:12:24 AM
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I have long token smschain, until now I do not know where I will sell, and I have not heard the news about the market launch smschain, how the fate of any investor hold, our money just disappear?
we do not expect profit now we just hope that our capital can be back, it's more than enough I will wait for news from you
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June 24, 2018, 07:35:49 PM
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I have long token smschain, until now I do not know where I will sell, and I have not heard the news about the market launch smschain, how the fate of any investor hold, our money just disappear?
we do not expect profit now we just hope that our capital can be back, it's more than enough I will wait for news from you
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I dont think there was any ICO only bounty tokens are in circulation.
That being said I would also like to see updates. I think the application was due to come out around this time
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June 26, 2018, 11:06:29 AM
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The price of the token will fall below the plinth and very quickly. Partners SMSChain mentioned in WP will have the opportunity to send SMS at ridiculous prices, dois will have the opportunity to earn a few dollars, maybe tens of dollars per month. Investors who paid for this whole holiday of life will remain in the position of a person who bought a pizza for 10,000 bitcoins
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July 03, 2018, 04:47:56 AM
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Project needs to come out with updates, as much as competing platforms contribute to a healthier ecosystem growth, smschain does not want to be too far behind
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August 06, 2018, 07:23:24 AM
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a simple ecosystem workflow on the announcement, but OIN ecosystem is a promising idea that's proven with some of the partners already working together as listed on the website. I am sure this project will grow rapidly and success!
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August 06, 2018, 11:15:36 AM
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What kind of project is this? How do people do something that you do if you don't use language that is easy to understand?
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August 21, 2018, 05:11:31 PM
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I really liked the project. If the idea can be realized with the help of funds attracted through blockchain it will be excellent.
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September 05, 2018, 04:10:07 PM
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 this project has a very good range for further development, unique blockchain, and of course with professional developers,hope to see more here Grin
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September 11, 2018, 08:20:47 AM
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SMSCHAIN ​is designed to create a framework for a reliable connection between the telecommunications company. I liked this project because it's safe
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