Bitcoin GOLD - A well thought Scam?

[adam1230]

I guess yesss its a well thought scam project ever. I like the idea and how people jump in to it. Its really funny for me. The "Gold" term is really attractive for newbies.
they know how to scam!

[1714968935]

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[troiano9]

Ill take my free Bgold and sell it for more bitcoin

[Stasnislav11]

at one seminar, the speaker offered the audience to invest Bcash and BGold, is this normal, do you think?

[KiDduco023]

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

what the... is it true...

[Zzzetor]

I'm quite new to cryptocurrencies and this whole bitcoin gold thing has made me very confused... Maybe I should read about other bitcoin-prefix coins if something alike has happened before

[shade_wrath]

at one seminar, the speaker offered the audience to invest Bcash and BGold, is this normal, do you think?

Never ever attend a seminar on crypto, Seminars are just there to lure new crypto enthusiast!
So better dont go there

[shade_wrath]

I'm quite new to cryptocurrencies and this whole bitcoin gold thing has made me very confused... Maybe I should read about other bitcoin-prefix coins if something alike has happened before

Always do your own research and see whether you have sufficient trust in coin and their team. Check Bitcointalk forum to get reviews about the token. Anything suspicious, stay away!

[HasHe]

In the end all the blames goes to crypto Community who are always looking for cheap and easy money. Assuming that BTG is scam, people will still pile up BTC just to get Free BTG. This never ending thirst will bring more shit coins which are based on BTC.

During the last hard fork in august,most of bitcoin holders feared that due to hard fork,bitcoin may lose its value and so they wished that fork should not happen.But this time,attitude of most people has changed and they all eagerly await for hard fork even after knowing that BTG would be a shit coin.They just need some free coins at any extent.This attitude is not good for the progress of bitcoin and until people continue to have such attitude,we could expect more hard forks as well as shitcoins in future also.

[Gutenhans]

with this fork they made some money out of thin air (the developers) but still lot's of people saw beyond the trust transfer salami tactics they had.

[cipher-x_09]

Talk about making a huge investment out of the money of others it's a good thing I decided not to invest any money here, well let's just hope they don't victimize any people with their devious methods lets just hope everything goes well here. Let's just focus on investing our money to trusted altcoins guys.

[conspirosphere.tk]

so is there any safe way to extract this shitcoin from my BTC yet?

[flippener]

During the last hard fork in august,most of bitcoin holders feared that due to hard fork,bitcoin may lose its value and so they wished that fork should not happen.But this time,attitude of most people has changed and they all eagerly await for hard fork even after knowing that BTG would be a shit coin.They just need some free coins at any extent.This attitude is not good for the progress of bitcoin and until people continue to have such attitude,we could expect more hard forks as well as shitcoins in future also.

Let's be honest, we mostly want the free coins so we can sell them for more bitcoin. That's where our heart lies.

[Antivoid]

Bitcoin Gold may not be a totally scam, but it will not suffer the same situation as Bitcoin Cash, as Bitcoin Cash has so many suppotors and what the dev of Bitcoin Gold have done may be a stain that will affect this coin greatly

[bambarmia]

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

The problem is that anybody can create the same for almost no cost ! That's the sad reality of crypto market this days. Just an easy way to enrich scammers.

[shade_wrath]

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

The problem is that anybody can create the same for almost no cost ! That's the sad reality of crypto market this days. Just an easy way to enrich scammers.

Exactly, in reality it do enrich the community members as well with free coin but they get that profit by dumping this shit onto other buyers! Which in end hurting this community itself.

[BogdanGFTP]

The most beautifull scum that I saw!!

[MapleOak]

These make one start to think about the whole foundings of hardware lying beneath the Internet.. should there be some control or mechanism to prevent fraud and support honesty / trust.

[JoyofCrypto]

It's not really that well thought if everyone see's right through it and knows that it's a scam

[abvhiael]

i have to agree with the most is seems to be suspicious yet we  should  leave it for the market to decide and see if it is as profitable as it said to be like bch which was considred a scam at first place and now it has many supportes and is one of the best altcoins0

[bambarmia]

Anyone can create a Bitcoin-derived altcoin like "Bitcoin Gold" (BTG) at any time with no cost. BTG is a scammy cash-grab with no ideology and no economic support, not something serious like Bcash was. That's not to say that it's impossible to make money by trading it, just like with other scamcoins, but I'm not going to get into the habit of writing announcements and guidance for every Bitcoin-derived scamcoin. If you want to do a dangerous replay-unprotected coin-split maneuver in order to claim tiny fractions of your BTC in airdrop value, that's on you.

I will write a guide later for B2X (split time in mid-November), which is more serious. After that, the bar is going to be awfully high to get me to announce similar things.

Even tyeymos wrote that Bitcoin Gold fork was a scam and I agree with him. Creating a fork is not a big deal and I'm more than sure, that in coming month, we  will see more forks (Someone already announced Bitcoin Silver) That forks are cash grabing machines, designed just to enrich the creators. As I sad before, crypto world became a holly grail for scammers.