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June 06, 2013, 01:23:26 AM
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We have been working on your "holy grail" idea for a few months now (p2p payment / banking system).  It operates on an internal currency, with a UI already designed.  Please contact me via PM.  I wasn't planning on making the project 'public' until we had everything up and running perfectly, but I didn't want to see you go through all this trouble and step on each other's toes when we already have an analogous solution being developed.  We would be open to working with you to reach our common goal. 

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Is your system based on Open-Transactions? ... if not you've just spammed a Project Development thread which is incredibly bad taste ....

I contacted him via PM.  Didn't intend to appear spammy.
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June 06, 2013, 01:31:53 AM
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I'm interested to see how this project will be divided... in terms of separate tasks, and the bounty itself. I think that's a great idea because multiple developers working on it means it gets done faster.

I sent some BTC and will send more in the future (OT donation address saved in my address book  Grin)
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June 06, 2013, 01:36:14 AM
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We have been working on your "holy grail" idea for a few months now (p2p payment / banking system).  It operates on an internal currency, with a UI already designed.  Please contact me via PM.  I wasn't planning on making the project 'public' until we had everything up and running perfectly, but I didn't want to see you go through all this trouble and step on each other's toes when we already have an analogous solution being developed.  We would be open to working with you to reach our common goal. 

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Is your system based on Open-Transactions? ... if not you've just spammed a Project Development thread which is incredibly bad taste ....

I contacted him via PM.  Didn't intend to appear spammy.

Ok. Apologies for jumping the gun there ... we all want the same thing, I think.

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June 06, 2013, 04:10:40 AM
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I'm interested in joining. I think fellowtraveller should create an official GitHub repo for the app and publicly accept pull requests. This will make the bounty division more transparent.

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June 06, 2013, 04:35:48 AM
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I'm interested in joining. I think fellowtraveller should create an official GitHub repo for the app and publicly accept pull requests. This will make the bounty division more transparent.

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That would be a great idea if he already has github. i already have some code to publish
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June 06, 2013, 05:03:34 AM
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I understand that Bitmessage will be used for service discovery between different OT servers but how these servers will transact between themselves? For instance, the universal currency between Ripple gateways is the XRP. What will be the settlement currency between OT federated servers?

See the protocols described in the pastebins linked from this first post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212490.0

OT servers will not have their own "settlement currency." Using the protocols it's already possible to wire funds between servers and also, BTW itself can serve as a "universal glue." (I don't think having our own "OT currency" is the right solution.)

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June 06, 2013, 05:10:26 AM
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There have been several people popping up to do this project, and I think we can divide the tasks between them.

I have created a new github repository for the project.

The bounty is now up to 63.19 BTC.


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June 06, 2013, 05:31:24 AM
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Tasks.  (Since several people have volunteered, I'd like you to specify tasks you are going to own.)

--- Who wants to do the HTTP interface?

--- Who wants to do the Bitcoin (multisig) integration?

--- Who wants to do the colored coin stuff?

--- Who wants to do the Bitmessage integration?

--- Who wants to do the systray GUI (I will provide the necessary OT calls.)

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June 06, 2013, 05:37:52 AM
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Tasks.  (Since several people have volunteered, I'd like you to specify tasks you are going to own.)

--- Who wants to do the HTTP interface?

--- Who wants to do the Bitcoin (multisig) integration?

--- Who wants to do the colored coin stuff?

--- Who wants to do the Bitmessage integration?

--- Who wants to do the systray GUI (I will provide the necessary OT calls.)


I claim systray GUI since I already have code going/posted up.
and will claim HTTP interface.

I can do it all but i don't want to be greedy anyone else can claim the rest I look forward to working with the others that join Smiley
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June 06, 2013, 06:10:36 AM
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See the protocols described in the pastebins linked from this first post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212490.0


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Let's say Alice is someone who wants to transfer Silver Grams from Server A to Server B.
Are Silver Grams from Server A and Silver Grams from Server B issued by different Issuers? If so then they'll be totally different assets. If Bob is willing to exchange Asset B against Asset A then he has to maintain Asset B account on Server A? Is that correct?
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June 06, 2013, 06:25:13 AM
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Let's say Alice is someone who wants to transfer Silver Grams from Server A to Server B.
Are Silver Grams from Server A and Silver Grams from Server B issued by different Issuers? If so then they'll be totally different assets.

--- In the protocol, I am assuming it's the same asset type on both servers (same issuer.) You would need the same asset type ID in order for the discovery to work over Bitmessage the way I've described.

--- But I guess you could do it either way. A slightly modified version of the protocol would be used in the case where they are different issuers.

--- I'd think if we're talking about two different asset types, then Alice would simply convert the asset type first (on the market) and then perform the wire. (Of course a smart wallet could automate this for her.)

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If Bob is willing to exchange Asset B against Asset A then he has to maintain Asset B account on Server A? Is that correct?

--- This is correct.

--- The servers could also maintain accounts with each other.

--- You could also convert the asset to BTC on the market, and then move it to any server, and then convert it back.

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June 06, 2013, 06:57:25 AM
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--- In the protocol, I am assuming it's the same asset type on both servers (same issuer.) You would need the same asset type ID in order for the discovery to work over Bitmessage the way I've described.
If it is the same asset type ID I'm not sure why would Alice want to transfer it from Server A to Server B for a fee. Who is the beneficiary of that transfer on Server B?
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June 06, 2013, 07:08:15 AM
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--- In the protocol, I am assuming it's the same asset type on both servers (same issuer.) You would need the same asset type ID in order for the discovery to work over Bitmessage the way I've described.
If it is the same asset type ID I'm not sure why would Alice want to transfer it from Server A to Server B for a fee. Who is the beneficiary of that transfer on Server B?

Alice.

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June 06, 2013, 01:38:43 PM
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I am interested in BitMessage integration.

And if there is a 'market' GUI potentially that too.

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June 06, 2013, 03:05:04 PM
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I understand that OT is open source like Ripple, but is it also centralized like Ripple as well? What makes OT any different than Ripple? Bitmessage is a decentralized messaging system that could relay Ripple gateways as well as OT servers could it not?

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June 06, 2013, 03:07:25 PM
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I understand that OT is open source like Ripple,

Currently Ripple is *not* open source (and it needs XRP which OT does not).

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June 06, 2013, 03:19:55 PM
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I understand that OT is open source like Ripple,

Currently Ripple is *not* open source (and it needs XRP which OT does not).

Ah, I see they have a GitHub, but no source files. Suspicious Scam.

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June 06, 2013, 03:43:49 PM
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I am a little surprised that Namecoin isn't in the mix here.

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June 06, 2013, 05:51:06 PM
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Could you please clarify the "Bitcoin (multisig) integration"? I'm interested in that sub-project.  Grin

From what I understand, you'd want the Qt app to be able to use a bitcoin RPC server to send multisig transactions? What would be the use cases?
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June 06, 2013, 05:51:48 PM
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I am interested in BitMessage integration.

And if there is a 'market' GUI potentially that too.

All i know is that I claimed the systray gui part, and the HTTP interface so that it can accept commands. I hear you bitmessage is still open and I've heard that you know how to get it integrated, you should message me and we will work together, if you claim the bitmessage part Smiley


I understand that OT is open source like Ripple,

Currently Ripple is *not* open source (and it needs XRP which OT does not).

Ah, I see they have a GitHub, but no source files. Suspicious Scam.

Me an felllowtravler were discussing diff qt versions last night, today I will post what i have so far to the githubpage, or you can check out my github page to see that i forked the project already and posted up some things https://github.com/Xenland/Moneychanger
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