agibby5
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February 24, 2014, 06:27:40 PM |
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I agree. EVERYONE, particularly those who have changed their addresses at some point, should definitely be reviewing their own accounts in the ledger and make sure the payouts have been correct. With that information, it's generally easy to lookup if something was missing, especially where payment addresses have changed. There shouldn't be many of these situations. It appears the change initiated with Ben's addresses was bad timing.
There is no GB1 prorated share price adjustment for my shares too. 1PW6xey6xQex1kJZMkAJvXouoGzeorfqVq This does not apply to Bitfunder shares
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equipoise
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February 24, 2014, 08:40:37 PM Last edit: February 24, 2014, 08:52:53 PM by equipoise |
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^OK. Sorry for bother you on that.
EDIT: I just wonder - if the prorated share price adjustment is payed from the dividends then: Did the members of the GB1, who sold all their shares in BF SNQ.CoinI received such a payment? Then if the BF shareholders don't qualify for such a payment then who received it? Soniq?
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MilkyLep
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February 24, 2014, 09:16:25 PM |
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I step out and return to find out this is more convoluted than what appeared at first glance. I take it the prorated amounts still need to be paid out since they are not in the ledger? I fear because I moved share(s) to BF then purchased more my payments could be off, although it becomes increasingly difficult to solve as time goes on. Soniq, what is your take on the GB1 & GB2 mixture of mining funds from the beginning and how will this be resolved? We understand things come up, especially family emergencies, but we need to hear a solidified date when this situation will be resolved with a true timeline.
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agibby5
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February 24, 2014, 09:17:47 PM |
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I step out and return to find out this is more convoluted than what appeared at first glance. I take it the prorated amounts still need to be paid out since they are not in the ledger? I fear because I moved share(s) to BF then purchased more my payments could be off, although it becomes increasingly difficult to solve as time goes on. Soniq, what is your take on the GB1 & GB2 mixture of mining funds from the beginning and how will this be resolved? We understand things come up, especially family emergencies, but we need to hear a solidified date when this situation will be resolved with a true timeline. Did you read any of my posts?
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agibby5
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February 25, 2014, 03:29:53 AM Last edit: February 25, 2014, 09:42:21 PM by agibby5 |
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There's another issue that came up... hosting refunds/penalties and how to handle the 40.7 BTC Larry paid out of his personal account. Currently, this amount is distributed across various GB members directly out of mining income. However, we would need to debit soniq's account for the 40.7 so that it balances with the credits to the member's accounts. At first, I thought it should all go back to soniq, but people did pay into that account (1NaE9oXe9ZkCUrhtEPTFGU4HbUqZXVanGw). [9:18:27 PM] agibby5: you got 105 from bitfunder [9:18:34 PM] agibby5: it was in your own wallet address [9:18:38 PM] Larry/soniq: yes [9:18:41 PM] agibby5: you paid that AND 41 of your own BTC to KNC for the initial hosting fee? [9:18:45 PM] Larry/soniq: yes [9:19:10 PM] agibby5: and then you booked it as an expense [9:19:20 PM] agibby5: and took it off the top of the mining income [9:19:29 PM] Larry/soniq: yes [9:19:49 PM] agibby5: i feel like your account should be then credited for that 41 btc [9:20:16 PM] agibby5: but you paid the 146 out of mining income i thought? [9:20:31 PM] Larry/soniq: well that what I am not sure about? I have a tough time wrapping my head around all the complexities that happened [9:21:16 PM] Larry/soniq: I paid the 146 BTC out of my original wallet, you cannot sellect a payment address to send payments [9:21:33 PM] Larry/soniq: so 146 BTC came from the baalnce in my wallet Here's that transaction of 146 to KNC we're referring to: https://blockchain.info/tx/e8db2d85774fe0c6defe45fb1d7851c2b7cd2fd81a87b6b76981a6ed599ce461EDIT: I talked to espen about this, and people did pay into the hosting address. Basically, we would need to debit soniq's account for the 40.7 and credit everyone's account for their share of the 40.7 so it balances and has absolutely no impact on the mining income. I deleted the rest of this post as it had severely incorrect information.
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hjlow
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February 25, 2014, 12:32:34 PM |
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to clean this out for once and for all that sounds like a good idea
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BenTuras
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February 27, 2014, 07:13:43 AM |
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Can someone please explain all the small amounts I am receiving ?!
20/02/14 03:58 0.02992773 20/02/14 03:58 0.0017733 26/02/14 17:28 0.00145551
COMMUNICATING, It must be a tough skill......
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dutu
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February 27, 2014, 06:56:20 PM Last edit: February 27, 2014, 07:20:27 PM by dutu |
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Hi aggiby, It has been verified and concluded that "the spreadsheet is now up to date and shows 128.752061356 to be paid out"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226319.msg5268456#msg5268456Please let us know when the amount (and the additional mining income post this date) will be paid out to shareholders. Soniq, I have to warn you that these funds do NOT belong to you and you have no rights to keep these in your possession.
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LittleD
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February 27, 2014, 08:33:17 PM |
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Hi aggiby, It has been verified and concluded that "the spreadsheet is now up to date and shows 128.752061356 to be paid out"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226319.msg5268456#msg5268456Please let us know when the amount (and the additional mining income post this date) will be paid out to shareholders. Soniq, I have to warn you that these funds do NOT belong to you and you have no rights to keep these in your possession. ooooooooh boy
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Plissken
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February 27, 2014, 08:39:00 PM |
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Hi aggiby, It has been verified and concluded that "the spreadsheet is now up to date and shows 128.752061356 to be paid out"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226319.msg5268456#msg5268456Please let us know when the amount (and the additional mining income post this date) will be paid out to shareholders. Soniq, I have to warn you that these funds do NOT belong to you and you have no rights to keep these in your possession.
OHHHHHHHHHHH soniq soniq....
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agibby5
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February 27, 2014, 08:41:55 PM |
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Hi aggiby,
Please let us know when the amount (and the additional mining income post this date) will be paid out to shareholders.
I cannot answer this... I have not heard from him for 3 days and he dropped off quickly that day. I talked to him at length 4 days ago. I reached out to him a few times since then though.
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soniq (OP)
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February 27, 2014, 11:15:21 PM Last edit: February 28, 2014, 02:20:58 AM by soniq |
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ok, thank you everyone for their patience, it has been a very trying experience. After several weeks of verifying spreadsheets, reverifying and looking into all the issues we have arrived at a final amount to be paid out, this is link to current updated spreadsheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtH6ASvoAExHdF9IcFh3QmQ2dEt4Zk5qT3lRUDFDTVE&usp=drive_web&pli=1#gid=37- Dividend payment made today trans id 6f814b0112c5082da4cb8282fae5551d82ddb46910698ce14d13b95eb2057b2c - some people will have no payments this payout because of hosting refund issues, this will all be resolved in a separate spreadsheet and paid from the address the hosting payment was received at. - have decided to waive any hosting penalties Am keeping a buffer of Bitcoins to allow for shipping costs of Jupiters to me unless I can resolve something with KNC to arrange shipping of Jupiter directly to buyers. If that happens I can payout the buffer as well. Right now the buffer is quite large but am allowing for a falling bitcoin exchange rate. The expected shipping and duties bill could be between $5000 and $15000. Again if I can resolve this issues with KNC will reduce the buffer as well. Hosting is paid till end of April. Namecoin has not been dealt with yet as we have been trying to finalize the balance on the mining addresses, but should be done soon. Thank you again for you patience
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miner_btc
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February 28, 2014, 01:26:26 AM Last edit: February 28, 2014, 02:36:28 AM by miner_btc |
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So explain to me why you are talking about selling off the jupiters when it hasn't even been discussed here? If hosting is paid until the end of april isn't is a bit premature to talk of selling them now? Frankly, I am against paying the duties and expedited shipping. We never agreed to that. KnC needs to ship them and the buyer needs to pay that. You could probably fly to Sweeden and ship the miners yourself for less than $15k. Was this all discussed and agreed somewhere that I missed? Please explain...
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Plissken
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February 28, 2014, 02:45:20 AM |
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I'm already up eggs
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Tiennou74
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February 28, 2014, 05:32:04 AM |
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Received dividend! I will check to see if it makes sense..
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Plissken
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March 02, 2014, 07:04:10 PM |
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soniq + sushi + Mtgox = Plissken deadSoniq you've been a month without pay. Eligius pays me every day.
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Plissken
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March 03, 2014, 03:57:30 PM |
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UP UP!!
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Plissken
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March 04, 2014, 01:36:07 AM |
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Soniq you're wearing me, I have to go to Canada to charge my btc?
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soniq (OP)
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March 04, 2014, 10:23:54 PM |
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Soniq you're wearing me, I have to go to Canada to charge my btc?
Please reread post #735
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Plissken
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March 05, 2014, 04:17:00 PM |
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Please reread post #735
#735 some people will have no payments this payout because of hosting refund issues, this will all be resolved in a separate spreadsheet and paid from the address the hosting payment was received at. How much you paid for hosting?. I remember that I am not stupid, eh?. I've never been to Canada, but you want to travel.
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