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December 03, 2013, 04:17:48 AM
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I did not received any dividend this week?
Thanks

mm same here

Hi soniq,

Please update us on the bitcoins mined so far and dividend payments.

We have seen the excel file with the payouts.

Please share a statement and include:
•   bitcoins mined so far (please indicate the date)
•   Expenses until the date above
•   Dividend per share
•   Date of next payment
•   Frequency of regular payments and the date?

We have not seen reporting so far and the operations is not quite transparent in my view.

Thanks


I think the same, nor understand it.
Regards.

The total amount mined is at these two addresses  1MyLJvnuHxkXUp8CMPNwp1oKFz5fDsF14u   1EN3EqqQfqq484WNATFAMA13VXpJuJNv5c

All dividends paid too  date are posted in a public spreadsheet which shows all dividend calculations and total BTC paid out so far.

I am clarifying and consolidating all this information at www.coinsortium.org which I am working on currently and should be complete soon.

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December 03, 2013, 07:00:38 PM
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I did not received any dividend this week?
Thanks

mm same here

Hi soniq,

Please update us on the bitcoins mined so far and dividend payments.

We have seen the excel file with the payouts.

Please share a statement and include:
•   bitcoins mined so far (please indicate the date)
•   Expenses until the date above
•   Dividend per share
•   Date of next payment
•   Frequency of regular payments and the date?

We have not seen reporting so far and the operations is not quite transparent in my view.

Thanks


I think the same, nor understand it.
Regards.

The total amount mined is at these two addresses  1MyLJvnuHxkXUp8CMPNwp1oKFz5fDsF14u   1EN3EqqQfqq484WNATFAMA13VXpJuJNv5c

All dividends paid too  date are posted in a public spreadsheet which shows all dividend calculations and total BTC paid out so far.

I am clarifying and consolidating all this information at www.coinsortium.org which I am working on currently and should be complete soon.

That's fine a webpage would be fine, but really it can be done so much simpler.
I also bought KNC Jupiter shares in ADDICTION group-buy and so far
I have received regular weekly payments since Oct 20, that is 7 weekly payments until now.
A simple report is posted, here is the last one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244042.msg3806604#msg3806604

I really suggest that we invest time and focus on fixing the payment issue, and simple text report in an e-mail would suffice for now.
This will for sure address frustration of many members here. Once basic is fixed some more elevated webpage is very welcome.

Thanks
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December 08, 2013, 02:21:43 PM
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any dividend payout planned to happen soon?
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December 09, 2013, 03:01:46 AM
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Do you have a scheduled time for dividend payments or is it a very manual process which takes time? I am guessing we were expecting something ~7 days. Is there an updated spreadsheet we can turn to?

Many Thanks!
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December 10, 2013, 01:44:32 AM
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Hey soniq,
I didn't get any dividend this week, is it just delayed a little bit?
I was also wondering if we are mining namecoins?

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December 10, 2013, 07:49:27 AM
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Hi all members,

I would like to know your opinion of the disagreement I have with Soniq. We tried to solve it through PM, but our points of view are different.

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yes baros008, it does makes sense that you receive the dividend payout for the period you have owned the shares.
The new share owner should receive the dividend payout for the period HE has owned the shares.

If this is not the case, soniq, please clarify the rules and reasoning behind. Perhaps also update the rules so that we all know how this will be handled in the future.


The issue arises when I dont know who he sold his shares too?   One of the many issues associated with Bitfunder.

I know how many shares are associated with each  payment addresses on Bitfunder, but I don't know who sold and bought what.

That is why the dividends are paid to to the payment address associated with the shares on dividend payment date.

In a private sale I would know the buyer and be able to "hold dividend payments", but in this situation I cannot.


Listing on BitFunder was meant to be able to trade shares. But if you traded and finally sold shares when Jupiters started mining, your dividends are gone now.

All aspects of listing on BitFunder were not think out enough and rules were not specified. Was it my fault? I used only common logic in my calculation of dividend.

I understand there were issues with Bitfunder (Soniq helped me to solve some of them) and that it isn't possible to trace sold shares.

But there is one thing that undoubtedly belongs to me - prorated balance. Will you return it to me?
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December 11, 2013, 05:12:39 AM
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Anyone managed getting any feedback from soniq on this group-buy? No divided payouts for more then 2 weeks and no feedback at all. Soniq seams to completely ignore this forum,  I have also sent him a few personal messages (even when he was online) -  no feedback at all.

I am personally VERY disappointed on how this group buy is managed (if it is still managed - but at this stage we can't even be sure we'll see any future dividends on our investments). I hope it's not just another bitcoin scam
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December 11, 2013, 05:14:10 AM
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I did get my dividend yesterday. (a day late)
No complaints for me so far.
Soniq used to respond pretty fast , he hasn't responded to my last PM.
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December 11, 2013, 05:23:31 AM
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I did get my dividend yesterday. (a day late)
No complaints for me so far.
Soniq used to respond pretty fast , he hasn't responded to my last PM.

Yes he USED to respond.
Did you also get a statement/calculation of the payouts? (bitcoin mined, period, cost, dividend per share...?)
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December 11, 2013, 05:25:25 AM
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Check here
http://ec2-54-229-231-38.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/groupbuy/

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December 11, 2013, 05:33:57 AM
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That's a list of transactions.

Did you get a calculation of dividends for the period (dates), bitcoin mined under the specific period,  cost incurred and calculation of dividend per share?

There was another question here on the forum about namecoins - answered?
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December 11, 2013, 05:35:26 AM
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Just trying to help!
I agree with you there is a lack of communication and it would be nice to get all of the details.
I am in DZ and Addiction GB and the communication has been great and detailed.
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December 11, 2013, 06:06:30 AM
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I did not received any dividend this week?
Thanks

mm same here

Hi soniq,

Please update us on the bitcoins mined so far and dividend payments.

We have seen the excel file with the payouts.

Please share a statement and include:
•   bitcoins mined so far (please indicate the date)
•   Expenses until the date above
•   Dividend per share
•   Date of next payment
•   Frequency of regular payments and the date?

We have not seen reporting so far and the operations is not quite transparent in my view.

Thanks


I think the same, nor understand it.
Regards.

The total amount mined is at these two addresses  1MyLJvnuHxkXUp8CMPNwp1oKFz5fDsF14u   1EN3EqqQfqq484WNATFAMA13VXpJuJNv5c

All dividends paid too  date are posted in a public spreadsheet which shows all dividend calculations and total BTC paid out so far.

I am clarifying and consolidating all this information at www.coinsortium.org which I am working on currently and should be complete soon.

 Dividend payments sent today   4d3ea5ba035605af59e2c2c57089a5f0b1f674e58306345b34d515d8b24ff247

Invitations to private members area  are being sent out as we speak, please sign in and add your Bitcointalk username  and change password

all stats are public and will be clarified even further in members area

Thank you for your patience

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December 11, 2013, 06:39:34 AM
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One of my largest issues has been customer support, I receive  question, comments and suggestions from 5 or 6 different sources .

I am consolidating all customer support issues to one area in members area.

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December 11, 2013, 10:28:45 AM
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Dividend payments sent today   4d3ea5ba035605af59e2c2c57089a5f0b1f674e58306345b34d515d8b24ff247

Invitations to private members area  are being sent out as we speak, please sign in and add your Bitcointalk username  and change password

all stats are public and will be clarified even further in members area

Thank you for your patience

Hi Soniq,
Would you please let us know where the information is available?
This has been asked repeatedly on this forum and PM's but there is still no answer. In case the info is not available to be shared with shareholders yet, can you indicate a target date to have these published.

We should have a statement that should at least include: bitcoins mined, costs, dividends per share.

Please also indicate how the dividend payments are going to happen in the future.
GB rule states:
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- payment will be made to the address of the share-holder  bi-weekly
but "bi-weekly" has not happened so far, hence my question on how will this be handled in the future.
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December 11, 2013, 10:38:30 AM
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Just trying to help!
I agree with you there is a lack of communication and it would be nice to get all of the details.
I am in DZ and Addiction GB and the communication has been great and detailed.
Thank you, Tiennou74

Yes I am also member in ADDICTION Jupiter GB and information received is simple, clear and timely provided.

Example: info for last payouts (Dec 8 )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244042.msg3876564#msg3876564
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Balance in wallet: 68.47987639
Still in wallet for non-confirmed shares: 4.56026235
Hosting costs: 2.454545455
Dividends: 61.46506859
Dividends per share: 0.00018358
Namecoin balance: 636.33305811 (as requested )

I'm sure most of shareholders won't need more than a statement like this and regular payments.
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December 11, 2013, 02:26:22 PM
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Also there is a place to buy/sell shares? 
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December 12, 2013, 01:04:53 PM
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i have not received dividends from the 4d3ea5ba035605af59e2c2c57089a5f0b1f674e58306345b34d515d8b24ff247 payment (or any for the last 3 weeks). I have also not received the PM with the invitation to the private members area. Tried to skype soniq yesterday but no response yet.

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December 13, 2013, 09:00:22 PM
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Figured things out with soniq. the invitation e-mail went to the spam folder and i couldn't find the spreadsheet with the dividends info. All was ok.

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December 13, 2013, 11:35:18 PM
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Registered on the members area of the site. Looking forward to having someplace with consolidated info. Thanks for the efforts thus far soniq. Can you release a statement regarding the next dividend date and when you plan to migrate more info to consortium.org? I noticed you took to reorganizing the spreadsheet sometime last week, will anyone with previous BF shares need to sign/verify any ownership for your records?

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