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October 16, 2017, 11:44:35 PM
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Hello Everyone, I hope you're doing all very well, I'm here today to speak about a project that we are working on,
The goal is to make a place where people could find anything they need for a travel to another country with bitcoin,

For example, you'll be able to book a room or an house, check places where you can go and pay in btc, like bars, tourism places, museums etc,
Everything listed on this website will be about travelling, and be sure that you can make a travel 100% in Bitcoin,
This idea came after Japan accepted officially the bitcoin as a currency everywhere, the place will just be based on people reviews, we don't ask for anything,

But i've some questions, and for that I'll need to have some advices from you, we know some places are against giving the right to rent their house or their room or for a limited time, for example, in New-York you can't rent your flat more than 30 days per year, what should we do about this ?

The goal is to stay legit and just give the opportunity for the btc to grow,
Because if this place works, more restaurants, more hotels, more places will start accepting the bitcoin around the world,

Thanks a lot guys,
Cheers !

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I think that for now if you want to book something using crypto then the best way to do it is to use a cryptocard on already existing services like  airbnb or booking com. If you want to pay directly in crypto then it will decrees the general amount of supply on the booking market.
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 Smiley Thanks a lot dude for your sharing,
I agree with you, but money still real money, also I know that here it's not the thread but besides btc we could accept others, but that's another point,
For me it was more about the thing to expand the use of the btc, I know in some little cities, just one shop accepting bitcoin is getting a lot of customers, and I think that Japan official acceptation is telling us that maybe we should go on this way,

Thanks dude for the sharing, if you have any advices let me know Smiley

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This is a good project for bitcoin exposure. I have read that some people tried traveling only with bitcoin but they have problems because only few shops and stores accept bitcoin so OP your project will be a big help for those people. Exchanging bitcoin to fiat has some fees and if they can directly spend bitcoin then they can avoid this unnecessary cost. Maybe you can have a package deal of the travel like hotels, fares, meals and maybe some tourist attractions are all included so that the traveler would not have a problem anymore in paying those with bitcoin and then you can include as well in the information the stores in that place that will accept bitcoin.

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October 20, 2017, 09:22:59 AM
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Hello Everyone,

Thanks a lot for your comments,

So after checking a lot and reading multiples things around the bitcoin community,
I've decided to make this project, the reason are simple :

- A lot of people wants to buy bitcoins, but it's better if they can buy a lot and also use little portions until the price grows ( Cheesy ) and be more safe to invest and live with bitcoins,
because if you can buy food, pay a rent, and some little extras in Bitcoin, why you need € anymore ? Smiley So I think it will push more people to adopt Bitcoin Smiley

- Because it will avoid exchanges, if you live in a country, you can visit another one just with bitcoins, as you get the map, the ability to take reservations of rooms all in bitcoin,
You'll feel more confortable, and don't need anymore to exchange a lot of money in another currency,

- Because for bitcoin be able to grow, we need it to be exchanged a lot, and if more people see it around them, they will start looking, yesterday I've saw 2 women of 70 years old, buying bitcoins but she didn't even know what was a wallet... so it starting in all ages, and starting to get the mind even of people who don't get IT,

The main features :
- Restaurants will be able to sell packages of meals, taking reservations online,
- Hotels and GuestRooms BnB, will be able to have a calendar for people be able to book their nights,
- Museums, Art Gallery, will be able to sell tickets online directly,

The entire website will work under the rule of reviews, the goal is not to put 5 stars to be a pleasure, but to be really honest, like 4 is good, but 5 is the best, not like in other websites, or it's always or a 1 star or a 5 star,

I don't want to make people pay also for anything on the website, we will just put some btc etc.. donation address, for people who loves the site, and work with it and grow, will I think help us to grow the entire website, also i've took a look at coinmap.org which is really excellent website, and I don't want to do the same, as our project will more focus on travelling, with the options for people to make it the easiest way possible,

Please everyone, let me know what you think about this,
And if you have any ideas, please let me know

Have a great day guys Wink
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October 20, 2017, 10:12:16 PM
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Its really a good project. But how you find out which all hotels or resorts will accept bitcoins from all over the world? Or you are going to make the list of hotels or resorts of only a specific country? Anyways I think its really a tedious task to co-ordinate with all the hotels around the world. I think for this you need to hire representatives all over the world to make deals with such hotels or resorts.

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October 21, 2017, 02:40:04 PM
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Hey, I like your concept Grin I am sure that if this project is implemented in a qualitative way, it will be successful. It would be cool to have such information in one place and exchange new data in the community of traveling crypto people. And of course it's better than to dig in major resource and look for places where Bitcoin is accepted.

Give people a clear view of where they can go for bitcoins, what they can eat there and what to do using only bitcoins, etc.
Send me a link when it's ready. And feel free to write me and ask for a feedback.
I'm here https://twitter.com/iamcrumplecat or in Telegram (@iamcrumplecat)

Good luck Wink


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Hello Everyone, I hope you're doing all very well, I'm here today to speak about a project that we are working on,
The goal is to make a place where people could find anything they need for a travel to another country with bitcoin,

For example, you'll be able to book a room or an house, check places where you can go and pay in btc, like bars, tourism places, museums etc,
Everything listed on this website will be about travelling, and be sure that you can make a travel 100% in Bitcoin,
This idea came after Japan accepted officially the bitcoin as a currency everywhere, the place will just be based on people reviews, we don't ask for anything,

But i've some questions, and for that I'll need to have some advices from you, we know some places are against giving the right to rent their house or their room or for a limited time, for example, in New-York you can't rent your flat more than 30 days per year, what should we do about this ?

The goal is to stay legit and just give the opportunity for the btc to grow,
Because if this place works, more restaurants, more hotels, more places will start accepting the bitcoin around the world,

Thanks a lot guys,
Cheers !



Sounds like a great idea, here is a thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2204636.msg22619793#msg22619793 where people were posting their experiences with traveling with Bitcoin only.  It could give you some user insight on what their process and experience was to get ideas for your system.  The book Blockchain revolution talked in detail about a disrupter dubbed B-Airbnb, I think you should check it out

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I agree and happy with this project, because we can easier to traveling by using bitcoin this is, our actions we have come to the hotel and other tourist areas. we love discount or pieces.
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I agree and happy with this project, because we can easier to traveling by using bitcoin this is, our actions we have come to the hotel and other tourist areas. we love discount or pieces.

That's right, that's one thing the OP is aiming for, but I think it's not an easy project to implement as there are still many governments that do not accept bitcoin. It is a huge obstacle.
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Hello Everyone,

I'll try to give you answers, as I've started this thread to get also ideas and advices from all the community Smiley
So feel free to give me advices also on my answers, I follow Satoshi mind, everyone as is word ( one CPU one vote )

Its really a good project. But how you find out which all hotels or resorts will accept bitcoins from all over the world? Or you are going to make the list of hotels or resorts of only a specific country? Anyways I think its really a tedious task to co-ordinate with all the hotels around the world. I think for this you need to hire representatives all over the world to make deals with such hotels or resorts.

Hello dude Smiley
Thanks for your question, the website/app will be a map with a listing, where you can choose by categories (bars,food,hotels,museums,etc..)
Actually we are working in this way :

1 - My friends and I, are checking on the net all websites where ads for bitcoins or altcoins are listed, we are putting it one by one as we can,
Also we have to check the ads with the right images, descriptions etc ourselves for people, this part is painful for us, but necessary for the community and for part 2,
2 - The ads will have a button on it with the mention "Claim your business", the owners of the business will be able to retake full control on their ads and manage their business,
3 - We will implement main features for the most asked categories, we already worked on those features :
Restaurants : They will be able to take reservations from the website, and check the entire menu, also the ability to take in delivery (later)
Hotels and BnB : They will be able to put a calendar for the entire house for people, and list the rooms and availability for the hotels
Events, Art, Museams : They will be able to sell tickets, and also take reservations online directly from the website

In fact by claiming their business, or making their own ads they will have all those features included, which sometimes is really good, maybe a restaurant will make a special attention for bitcoin clients, like sharing each others about their ideas, why they accepted bitcoin, etc..

Also we will make special accounts, for people who will be interested of helping us by adding and managing ads in their countries, we will see after finishing our first MVP, how we will selected those people, but for sure the grade on Bitcointalk.org will be a sign of maturity and respect that we can trust,
And when people will know about this website, I think a lot of business will put their own on the website/app, as it's free

Hey, I like your concept Grin I am sure that if this project is implemented in a qualitative way, it will be successful. It would be cool to have such information in one place and exchange new data in the community of traveling crypto people. And of course it's better than to dig in major resource and look for places where Bitcoin is accepted.

Give people a clear view of where they can go for bitcoins, what they can eat there and what to do using only bitcoins, etc.
Send me a link when it's ready. And feel free to write me and ask for a feedback.
I'm here https://twitter.com/iamcrumplecat or in Telegram (@iamcrumplecat)

Good luck Wink



Thanks a lot for those words, it just give us more motivation to bring our project to life Smiley thanks so much !
We are trying to make an MVP as fast as possible, we are actually working on a wordpress basic CMS for us to test the beta, and after first month of testing, if people really adopt the concept and want more, we will move to full native code,
Also at the start we will not make any escrow system or any online wallet, this will be all based on the trust of the customers reviews, I really think if the community is really fair,
I'll of course add you as our first testers Smiley I'll also update our social networks and everything as soon as possible, because for now we are only 4 guys in a room working hard on the website Smiley

Hello Everyone, I hope you're doing all very well, I'm here today to speak about a project that we are working on,
The goal is to make a place where people could find anything they need for a travel to another country with bitcoin,

For example, you'll be able to book a room or an house, check places where you can go and pay in btc, like bars, tourism places, museums etc,
Everything listed on this website will be about travelling, and be sure that you can make a travel 100% in Bitcoin,
This idea came after Japan accepted officially the bitcoin as a currency everywhere, the place will just be based on people reviews, we don't ask for anything,

But i've some questions, and for that I'll need to have some advices from you, we know some places are against giving the right to rent their house or their room or for a limited time, for example, in New-York you can't rent your flat more than 30 days per year, what should we do about this ?

The goal is to stay legit and just give the opportunity for the btc to grow,
Because if this place works, more restaurants, more hotels, more places will start accepting the bitcoin around the world,

Thanks a lot guys,
Cheers !



Sounds like a great idea, here is a thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2204636.msg22619793#msg22619793 where people were posting their experiences with traveling with Bitcoin only.  It could give you some user insight on what their process and experience was to get ideas for your system.  The book Blockchain revolution talked in detail about a disrupter dubbed B-Airbnb, I think you should check it out

Hey dude thanks a lot for the link, I'll check this in details,
But when we talk about Bnb it's really about Bead and Breakfast, also I had my flat on Airbnb, and I lived the experience,
It's terrible, people note you 5 stars or 1 star, sometimes guests try to intimidate you to have some refunds or you have your "SuperHost" badge out,
Airbnb was a great things at the beginning, now it's just a rolling money without real soul around it,
In our case, if people go to an host place, they both love bitcoins, so they will maybe go outside together, exchanges good ideas, and good address etc.. I think it's totally different experience,
We also promote restaurants, museums and Hotels ( who are complaining about Airbnb ), here they have a change to gain a lot of new customers of they just start accepting Bitcoin or altcoins,
Thanks dude Smiley

I agree and happy with this project, because we can easier to traveling by using bitcoin this is, our actions we have come to the hotel and other tourist areas. we love discount or pieces.

Thanks a lot for those words Smiley it's really kind and like I said, it's really boost our motivation and helps us to move on Smiley
If you have any ideas or suggestions please don't hesitate to tell us Smiley
Cheers

I agree and happy with this project, because we can easier to traveling by using bitcoin this is, our actions we have come to the hotel and other tourist areas. we love discount or pieces.

That's right, that's one thing the OP is aiming for, but I think it's not an easy project to implement as there are still many governments that do not accept bitcoin. It is a huge obstacle.

I agree that a lot of places don't still accept bitcoin, but here we will just make an open project, if people want to promote their business, there is nothing bad on this,
Of course we will not allow anything strange or who doesn't follow the laws of the gouvernements, and on our last check, most of countries allows now the bitcoin,
The most exiting thing, will be also that people travelling will not need to make big exchanges in currencies, as bitcoin is international,
We will always respect the laws and countries, but in first the community, for example if we receive any thing or any ask from a governement, we will just expose it in public,
One thing that is good with Bitcoin is that the governements can't mask their real ideas behind words, a clear no on bitcoin is a proof of non liberty right,

Take Care all, we will try to work late tonight, thanks a lot for your interest, it will be really great Cheesy
Cheers !
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Thanks a lot for those words, it just give us more motivation to bring our project to life Smiley thanks so much !
We are trying to make an MVP as fast as possible, we are actually working on a wordpress basic CMS for us to test the beta, and after first month of testing, if people really adopt the concept and want more, we will move to full native code,
Also at the start we will not make any escrow system or any online wallet, this will be all based on the trust of the customers reviews, I really think if the community is really fair,
I'll of course add you as our first testers Smiley I'll also update our social networks and everything as soon as possible, because for now we are only 4 guys in a room working hard on the website Smiley

Yes, I'm a cat-motivator too Grin And I'm glad that I was able to increase your motivation. Now you can't fail Wink

This is the right decision to make such MVP! But make it quality. Don't hurry much. I hope your team has a good designer. If not then you can contact the feedback\some help to me. I'm not a full-fledged designer, but I have good taste.

4 people is more than enough to create a great project! But if you connect the crowd to the process more effectively - it will be even steeper. I would advise you to review this project crowdholding.com. This is very convenient to interact with the crowd, get ideas, solutions, promotion for the future revenue (tokens). This is crowdsourcing 2.0 and I'm a cat-crowdsourcer 2.0 Grin

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This is a very nice project and this will announced bitcoin to micro business all over the world. Using bitcoin to pay for hotel, accommodations and restaurants foods will keep the coins in the mind of people. I am living in the country were means of booking for accommodation is very hard especially if you are booking from another countries because most of the online payment processor are not accepted in the country. This breakfast travel projects is going to make great wave as many of the bitcoins enthusiasts will like to invest for it success because of the problems it has come to solve.
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The idea sounds good but it seems that you will be lucky if you find at least 1 hotel (restaurant, or concert agency) that would like to deal with cryptocurrencies. Because of different legal things it seems complicated and I don't think that users will get a big benefit from it.
If you will use the fiat currencies then you will just try to copy the existing service.

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I like your eagerness and enthusiasm about this but I think there's a slight flaw in the business model. As far as I am aware, there are no airlines that accept BTC as a payment method. How then are you going to create this directory for multiple cities?
Once you start expanding the realm of your definition of companies that accept BTC you'll find yourself having to include debit cards that are linked to crypto wallets which would render the site slightly impractical.
I'm curious how you'd avoid this..
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October 22, 2017, 11:02:27 PM
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Nice project I never heard any services that you can purchase or book something like hotel or restaurant with your bitcoin directly at least you need 3rd service like bitcoin debit card or something to book them, This is a good idea however not all the place or country where you can transaction with bitcoin freely, for example in Bali you can't make a deal with your bitcoin I heard that their government prohibits the use of currency other than their official currency to deal, not dollar not bitcoin, so how do you handle this type of problem?
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October 22, 2017, 11:24:03 PM
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... ~ Bitcoin Bed and Breakfast ~ ...
you know what, you can add one more B to it... Backpacker!
Backpacker's Bitcoin Bed and Breakfast
Now that's a concept a lot backpacker would love to adopt!
travelling around the world with a backpack and an android  Grin

the problem is building a system and business connection to local businesses around the world
different countries have different regulations on bitcoins & businesses
once you overcome these barriers, I believe the project would become a great lucrative start up
heck yeah... I would also start evaluating the possibility of this business model
maybe each of us could start small one in our own country and serve locally at the beginning
and then connect to each other for servicing global customers  Shocked

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Wow this is a good project, These is a a good movement in realizing cashless society in the future, Hoping its going to be successful and everyone will truly appreciate the benefits of bitcoin in practical application. Will follow your project sir..
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October 23, 2017, 01:41:51 AM
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Hello guys Smiley

I'm so happy and really motivated with my friends to build this project as soon as possible,

I'll try to answer without quotes by now, as it will not very readable after many answers Smiley
Just if you have any questions or any ideas regarding the already system i've tried to explain let me know it will really help us to go on the good way Smiley

@Crumple Cat

Thanks a lot dude for those words, again it's really nice to heard that Smiley about the design, I design a little bit, I'll try to do some things, but as MVP, I'll maybe not really focus on this for the moment,
but really more in the features and the system for people be able to manage, I think first we need a solid product who works great without misunderstanding from people who will use it, and after focus on the beauty,
of course the UI/UX will be present on the first MVP but not as it could be at final stage Wink
Thanks for the link I'll check this out as soon as possible Smiley

@Idrisu

Thanks a lot for your comment, we have really checked on this side and you are true, but we found that it's because it stills very hard to implement a system for any business to take bitcoins easily and manage it,
without knowing really what is the technology, I know there is a bunch of systems to do this, but it's still complicated in the mind of people, what I learn from my life, is that people will make the effort to learn and understand something,
if they see some money or paper besides it, that's the human nature ( or maybe the society nature lol ), but I think of connecting people in first place, and making a big system for business be able to manage fully their transactions etc..
We keep in touch Wink

@Murloc

Hello dude Smiley
I can tell you that we already have a lot in the US, in Spain, Brasil ( We have not checked all yet but we are working on it ) for the hotels, and there is restaurants and bars everywhere now,
But I can tell you that there is really more place that you think that already accepts Bitcoin, and we really try to people get some views for their business,
The biggest thing about Bitcoin is community, we are the ones who make it used and buy everyday, and project like mine or others are just helping people to grow ideas started from nowhere,
also we are spending our own money, and a friend as put 2 rigs to our charity wallet, so we really doing this just for the cause and the fun, we don't care if it will be a success or not Smiley

@AT101ET

Hello dear Smiley
Thanks really for this question to tell you the truth, we spook about it just one time at the beginning of the project, and we have decided that this will be for the next stage of the project,
Airlines companies have growed a lot those days, with low costs flights everywhere around the world, one of my friend did Portugal-Spain-France and back for just 60€,
If a website or a platform grows and has customers and business accepting the bitcoin in many countries, the airlines companies will think or speak about that in their offices,
Imagine if they accepted Bitcoin at the price of 300€ before for flights at 50€, they was making a big profit on those low costs planes, the only issues for business is to be able to manage perfectly their accounting in bitcoins or altcoins,
For you to know, we was at a diner yesterday, and a friend of a friend works in insurances in Europe, her company uses Etherum to make their contracts with their clients and it's a big insurance company in EU,

This question is very a big point of the project, but I think it will be in the next step after the MVP, because if we grow we will have some impact and could contact those companies, why not,
But in first place let's say that you just have to use your card to take your planes tickets and them you're ready to go after that to the Bitcoin world Cheesy
But really interesting question, we will for sure check this deeper as we saw it has been asked, thanks a lot dude

@Thirdspace

Dude that's really and excellent idea, we will discuss about this with our team, for sure Smiley the name looks really great and also fits the mind behind the project,
Actually as I explained there will be more than just one stage in the project, first we will allow people to communicate easily and book fast etc.. not any kind of payements on the platform,
the reason is that we plan it for later, also about a tool that businesses could use in an easy way to start accepting Bitcoin with accounting system,
About laws and regulations, we already spook between all of us, and we think like this :
" Like the blockchain, bitcoin represents freedom as long as you do not walk on the block of the other "
We will for sure block or not accepted any content that is porn, marketing fakes, etc..  but we will give people liberty about their business, if the governments don't allow the bitcoin in entire country, yes we will block the IP of this country to not be able to
check this country, but they could check the countries where they want to go Smiley and also like everyone knows even the Wifi WP2 is dead in security terms, so you should use a good VPN today,

@fredo123

Thanks a lot dude !
We are happy for so much motivation around our project Smiley
Soon we will add a page where people who wants to participate on the MVP, we will contact you for sure Smiley
Thanks a lot if you have any ideas let us know Wink

Thanks a lot everybody for your comments,
It's really boosting our team and we are really enjoying the project,
We are now implementing the different accounts types, to let people to be able to add businesses, and also claim their business,
We really appreciate your good attitude and positive energy Smiley and believe me we really needed it Smiley
Feel free to give your feedbacks and what you think about all this,
We will release some screens of the first MVP during the next week Wink Keep in touch guys

Take Care Everyone,
Have a great day Smiley
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October 23, 2017, 10:27:14 AM
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Good project, looking forward for this to become a reality. By the way expedia already accepts bitcoin and has hotels and flights covered !!

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