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October 21, 2017, 06:47:24 AM
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Yes i agree with you to some extent, that altcoin long term investment is a not good idea for now,because the bitcoin value is increasing day by day and because of this many altcoin's value have been decreased. you can buy the alt with usd rather than bitcoin. Actually there are many altcoin being introduced out of which only few of them are doing good with their technology other are just worthless and due to this bitcoin is gaining high value than the other altcoins value, which is affecting the long term investment.

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October 21, 2017, 07:47:03 AM
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With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.


The presence of so many alts and tokes are actually ruining the crypto currency market. The amount of investment bitcoin should have received, is getting divided due to the presence of so many alts. So bitcoin is not growing as desired. However, the point you raised is completely valid. With increase bitcoin value, the alts are getting devalued compared to bitcoin but not compared to USD. So it is better to use alt/usd pair for trading instead of bitcoin. But I truly think that so many alts are not worth having in anyone's portfolio. There are only few alts which are actually good and technologically superior than bitcoin. But other alts are mostly worthless.
In the presence of alts bitcoin investment is getting low and bitcoin has more potential than other coins out there . But still many people invest in alts as they think one day it will overcome bitcoin. But is is very difficult for alts to rise as its price is also affected due to prices of bitcoin if bitcoins prices are lowered than alt-coins will also face a same problem and all other coins as bitcoin has become a center coin for exchange for most f the alts and other coin. Most of the people buy coin by using bitcoin and this to helps it.
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October 21, 2017, 07:50:51 AM
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With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.


in my opinion, doing long term investment in altcoin can be work if we choose the right altcoin and we know about the project will be rise in future. I know that with increasing of bitcoin price, altcoin is suffer and can not increase at all but in some day after bitcoin price can reach the stable price even if its just for short time, altcoin will reach the position back and in that time, I think our investment will give the profit to us. short term trading will be another option to still get the profit but like I said before, we need to choose the right coins.

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October 21, 2017, 07:57:36 AM
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We only see a growing number of altcoins, however it will not imply that BTC long term investing is not profitable in any way.

I believe that bitcoin will always be a good investment in a long-run, perhaps a constant trading of certain coins will make the altcoins stable as of today.

AFAIK No one is going to Hodl an altcoin. just an opinion.
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October 21, 2017, 11:00:34 AM
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Sooner or later the moneys flowing back to alts
That sooner would be like one century and later would be like thousand centuries. Do not get me wrong and I am not mocking you or criticizing you, but let’s just put the facts at the top of our personal likings. I am not saying that altcoins are not worthy of anything or can't grow.

Bitcoin is the first digital currency, people trust it more, it has the scarce supply and above all it is the benchmark for all other crypto coins. Nothing can replace this coin.
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October 21, 2017, 12:17:51 PM
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Price fluctuation of bitcoin has been a part of Trading for a long time now, so this kind of statements are nothing new but i understand where you're coming from.

I always believed that altcoins were not meant to be a long term invesment, especially if you compare them with bitcoin. It is true that some altcoins are becoming worthless to hold as each day the btc price rises, but as long as bitcoin exists there's going to be a space for an old altcoin or a new altcoin to grow and keep its value.
I'm pretty sure that for some people it's not that long term investment of bitcoin in alts is no longer exists, it's just becoming more and more difficult.

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October 21, 2017, 12:50:05 PM
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I agree if you say to do hold, because if I have to be honest myself feel quite confused to trade in this situation. the more coming is just the fear and panic.

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October 21, 2017, 12:55:24 PM
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I don't think this is true, there are many great alt-coins still that are growing more than bitcoin!

Yeah there are some good altcoin are available in the market but investing them on long term is not gonna give that much profit because the growth rate of any alts is very very less when compared to bitcoin.Bitcoin growth rate is very high it reaches $ 6000 mark in last days it is becoming more and more popular and stable.It attracts more people towards bitcoin to make them invest on it which makes more demand on bitcoins which still increases the price.
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October 21, 2017, 01:05:19 PM
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Bitcoin: yes.
Alts: no. I don't hodl alts more than 1 month. New alts on the market every day. There are always some alts better than others. If I don't see an alt that is good to invest I'll hold bitcoin and wait for the right moment to join.

I don't chase the market price. I learned many lessons on this market. Hold bitcoin is my top 1 priority.

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you think like a desperate person,. the value of bitcoin will never be unstoppable,., bitcoin value will keep rising as usage and mining are depleted.,. but it is only a reliable altcoin in short-term trading., because if we rely on bitcoin we must have at least 1 btc to do short-term trading..

 There is no way that we can deny the importance of bitcoin as way of investing for the long term. In fact, bitcoin is the m;st preferable coin in the world of crypto currency if you want to go for long term investment. You can never ever think of this thing that bitcoin is no longer used by the investors for long term investment. If we look at the graph of market price of bitcoin, then we’ll come to know that it is the best option for long term investment.

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October 21, 2017, 02:18:36 PM
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I agree that with the fluctuations of btc market then short-term investment is more reasonable and as you say, it is also more risky. But I believe that long-term investment is still a good profit for us. If compared to the previous time, btc prices have increased a lot and that is the opportunity for investment ,both long-term and short-term.
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October 21, 2017, 02:23:04 PM
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Holding BTC and waiting altcoin are good choice, if we buy altcoin when btc sideway, btc is down then, we lost many monney

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October 21, 2017, 08:02:22 PM
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Sooner or later the moneys flowing back to alts
That sooner would be like one century and later would be like thousand centuries. Do not get me wrong and I am not mocking you or criticizing you, but let’s just put the facts at the top of our personal likings. I am not saying that altcoins are not worthy of anything or can't grow.

Bitcoin is the first digital currency, people trust it more, it has the scarce supply and above all it is the benchmark for all other crypto coins. Nothing can replace this coin.
If we see the past record of all the coins present in the world of crypto currencies since the time it was introduced, it is none other than bitcoin which is the best coin in the world so far. Bitcoin holds a very bright future and the way its market price is increasing, I must say that bitcoin is the best coin if someone wants to go for long term investment. You only need to be patient and keep control on your nerves, bitcoin will help you make very much rich.
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October 21, 2017, 08:10:27 PM
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Yeah, one side Bitcoin price is increasing, on the other hand, i have lost so much in investing alt coins..
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October 21, 2017, 08:37:28 PM
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With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.


Ya it is so true that even good Altcoins are also getting suffered but it is due to Bitcoin price rise, that is why no one wants to buy this coins in Bitcoins but it is much better to buy in Dollar but in comings days we will see some good news in altcoins which will boom the price high.
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October 21, 2017, 09:15:36 PM
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With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.


Your observation is very much correct and at the same time, alts developers needs to up their games. The reason is because the people dealing in the trade are human beings which is expected that they react to events as they see it but unfortunately most developers just go to bed after the initial ICOs rather than releasing updates, ensuring time lines are met but that's not what they do and when that happens, there is no value to be gotten from investing in such and that means that people begin to shift their interest where they can get value.
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October 21, 2017, 11:39:48 PM
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you think like a desperate person,. the value of bitcoin will never be unstoppable,., bitcoin value will keep rising as usage and mining are depleted.,. but it is only a reliable altcoin in short-term trading., because if we rely on bitcoin we must have at least 1 btc to do short-term trading..

 There is no way that we can deny the importance of bitcoin as way of investing for the long term. In fact, bitcoin is the m;st preferable coin in the world of crypto currency if you want to go for long term investment. You can never ever think of this thing that bitcoin is no longer used by the investors for long term investment. If we look at the graph of market price of bitcoin, then we’ll come to know that it is the best option for long term investment.


What can be better than holding on bitcoin? Mnay people become millionaire by doing this just. The period of their holding based upon many few years so it proves that BTC is actually menat for long term investments. Actualy, bitcoin is also the best for short term investments because no altcoin has such a great potential of multiplying as bitcoin has but the profit price enlarges with time. So it is upto investor whether he wants more money or less.
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October 22, 2017, 07:40:05 AM
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We only see a growing number of altcoins, however it will not imply that BTC long term investing is not profitable in any way.

I believe that bitcoin will always be a good investment in a long-run, perhaps a constant trading of certain coins will make the altcoins stable as of today.

AFAIK No one is going to Hodl an altcoin. just an opinion.
It is not just your opinion alone but a reality for millions of crypto users. Yes, everyone who is somehow linked with crypto market is well aware of the fact that bitcoin is the best coin for long term trading and without bitcoin the survival of crypto market is no possible. As far as holding bitcoin for long term is concerned, it is crystal clear from the recent increase in bitcoin prices that it is going to continue this journey till the existence of digital currencies.
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October 22, 2017, 10:43:38 AM
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With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.


I think as the BTC price rises 1 sat is going to actually start becoming too high for more and more altcoins (its not quite a problem yet). I hope LTC or other "top 10" coins with a lower $ value hopefully get be used more as a base to offset this problem.
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October 22, 2017, 10:47:37 AM
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I'm not so sure that investment opportunities for BTC are completely gone in the wind now as many people suspect that there is a lot of room to grow (lots saying it will reach 10k) but I do think the alt coin investment/trading against Bitcoin is going to become less viable as time goes on. Even solid alt coins like Eth are taking a hit from the rapid rise in price. It's unsustainable for certain coins at the moment. Time will tell I guess.

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