KRUNIAC Scam ASIC 1 share

[dhenson]

What a shithole. Canned air and coffee. Breakfast of champions.

Yeah I hope he does something productive with my $$$.  It looks to me like his life could use a reboot.

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[Rawted]

Bloke likes to pose half naked...

What a shithole. Canned air and coffee. Breakfast of champions.

Seriously, what a sissy breakfast. Freon and Red Bull or GTFO.

[BigBitz]

Recover Schedule

address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui           ryanAC      1.8                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911
14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK                          2.1                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896
126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D   hwmax               2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891
19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891
Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661
Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891
18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891
1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5                   2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378
1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891
1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881
1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383
                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         


This, I believe, is the current state of play. We have close to 42BTC in scammed funds. As you know I have 16.4BTC at the moment I have decided to work on percentages of theft against percentages of losses so in short you're "claim" will be valued against the total scammed coins claimed and a pro-rata refund will be issued.

Some people will see this as fair. Rest assured I have thought about this and thought about how to provide people with some of their coins back. You're not going to get them all as we know. The main reason for this is DesignDream got hit for 17.39BTC in total and I think giving everyone a small amount back is better than getting none back. I assume most of you thought you would never see those coins again so please try and accept this and realize it is a fair method.

As of right now -- 7:38GMT [current forum time] no new claims will be accepted. I can't return anything to everyone scammed by this guy.

I hope you all agree this is fair and I am trying to do what's right but if someone has any suggestions etc post them.

For Additional Transparency this is the TX where he sent me the 16.4BTC --> https://blockchain.info/tx/8d71e6c9aab72c32f15612f81c8d55b209f6ae54c12ca6486f078abf8d0d638f

Right now I need people to send their info either in a PM to BigBitz, BCB, JohnK on this forum. Or post the information publicly.

[dhenson]

Thanks BigBitz! No complaints here.

I just hope other victims that have not responded yet find this thread.

[BigBitz]

Thanks BigBitz! No complaints here.

I just hope other victims that have not responded yet find this thread.

I know this might happen but unfortunately we need to draw a line at some point.

People have had a few days to realize this, heck, some of them might not even use bitcointalk.org forum as well...

I just need to have a clean cut to start trying to work out who gets how much etc.

tencevad you are NOT in that list however you have proven to sent 2BTC to the address so I am going to remove one of the transactions which we have no address for - note there is two.

For Transparency I have added tencevad to the 2.2BTC transaction -- I am not going to recalculate everything so he will get the least amount of the blank transaction.

[tencevad]

Thanks BigBitz! No complaints here.

I just hope other victims that have not responded yet find this thread.

I know this might happen but unfortunately we need to draw a line at some point.

People have had a few days to realize this, heck, some of them might not even use bitcointalk.org forum as well...

I just need to have a clean cut to start trying to work out who gets how much etc.

tencevad you are NOT in that list however you have proven to sent 2BTC to the address so I am going to remove one of the transactions which we have no address for - note there is two.

Thanks.

[Palantir13]

Hello all,

I just PMed BigBitz with notification that I am in fact the person that transferred 2.2 BTC to this guy at roughly 6:00 PM June 5 (Pacific) - those are in fact my 2.2 BTC.

I sent him 2.2 BTC to his address of 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

He signed with that address, and I can provide that if you would like.

My btc address is 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

Please allow me to join you guys in seeking restitution!

EDIT: Here is a picture of my interactions with him, containing transaction and contact details: https://i.imgur.com/aEiTlRg.jpg

This is my transaction to the d-bag: https://blockchain.info/tx/a8ebe244320415c6b1216ef473de41795e5240d97ea6375dd6f759450e520f18

[BigBitz]

Hello all,

I just PMed BigBitz with notification that I am in fact the person that transferred 2.2 BTC to this guy at roughly 6:00 PM June 5 (Pacific) - those are in fact my 2.2 BTC.

I sent him 2.2 BTC to his address of 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

He signed with that address, and I can provide that if you would like.

My btc address is 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

Please allow me to join you guys in seeking restitution!

EDIT: Here is a picture of my interactions with him, containing transaction and contact details: https://i.imgur.com/aEiTlRg.jpg

This is my transaction to the d-bag: https://blockchain.info/tx/a8ebe244320415c6b1216ef473de41795e5240d97ea6375dd6f759450e520f18

I have attributed you to the remaining blank address as your BTC address is not there.

That's all folks. ONLY those BTC addresses above will be used for repayment purposes. Short of a very valid detailed claim/proof there will be no BTCs sent to alternative addresses.

[Palantir13]

Thank you very much BigBitz and to everyone else in this thread.

I would also like to file a police report and am located in California. What information do we currently have on this fellow that I can provide to the police (at some point people went from talking about logs to filing police reports)? I want my local police to be able to contact the police in his area and was stated earlier in the thread.

Here is my signed message:

Address: 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

Message: This is Palantir13 on the bitcointalk forums and I am signing this address to confirm I was a victim of the scammer Kruniac when attempting to purchase 1 ASICMiner share. This message is being signed 6/10/2013 Pacific.

Signature: G+NrX/brdrSs2FcA4KFWBm5U81CCcrwjlRjky+iv7qVziWr3DqSB4eO1Lzyjl++ttpo94lv+pGVcXtp8ogkVpiI=



Good luck to us...

EDIT: This is the info we have (correct me if I'm wrong).

Garrott Gardner
Birth Date 06/13/1984

Address:
805 W WASHINGTON ST UNIT 3
HAGERSTOWN, MD 21740

Used IP address: 68.55.37.228

http://www.myspace.com/206360778

BTC address (will the cops care about this right now?): 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

Since he didn't deny those allegations of what his name was etc...

This facebook appears to be his: https://www.facebook.com/garrott.gardner/about

His mom's facebook: https://www.facebook.com/regina.gardner2

His brother's facebook: https://www.facebook.com/travis.gardner.9256

[wo0x]

Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some.

It's weird, but there is no option to keep any of those scammed and rescammedued coins for you. I vote for either splitting them up between parties, that show and can proof their claim or, even preferrable, donate the rest, that was not showing up/proved, publicly to  EFF or something else of your choice.

Best"
  wo0x

[BigBitz]

Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some.

It's weird, but there is no option to keep any of those scammed and rescammedued coins for you. I vote for either splitting them up between parties, that show and can proof their claim or, even preferrable, donate the rest, that was not showing up/proved, publicly to  EFF or something else of your choice.

Best"
  wo0x

I'm not sure what you mean?

[ironcross360]

Thank you very much BigBitz and to everyone else in this thread.

I would also like to file a police report and am located in California. What information do we currently have on this fellow that I can provide to the police (at some point people went from talking about logs to filing police reports)? I want my local police to be able to contact the police in his area and was stated earlier in the thread.

Here is my signed message:

Address: 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

Message: This is Palantir13 on the bitcointalk forums and I am signing this address to confirm I was a victim of the scammer Kruniac when attempting to purchase 1 ASICMiner share. This message is being signed 6/10/2013 Pacific.

Signature: G+NrX/brdrSs2FcA4KFWBm5U81CCcrwjlRjky+iv7qVziWr3DqSB4eO1Lzyjl++ttpo94lv+pGVcXtp8ogkVpiI=



Good luck to us...

EDIT: This is the info we have (correct me if I'm wrong).

Garrott Gardner
Birth Date 06/13/1984

Address:
805 W WASHINGTON ST UNIT 3
HAGERSTOWN, MD 21740

Used IP address: 68.55.37.228

http://www.myspace.com/206360778

BTC address (will the cops care about this right now?): 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

Since he didn't deny those allegations of what his name was etc...

This facebook appears to be his: https://www.facebook.com/garrott.gardner/about

His mom's facebook: https://www.facebook.com/regina.gardner2

His brother's facebook: https://www.facebook.com/travis.gardner.9256

He did nothing illegal

[Palantir13]

He did nothing illegal

You've said that repeatedly. Why isn't it illegal? Because there is no precedent for a case like this?

The Hagerstown Police/Sheriffs very much believe it is illegal if you read earlier in the thread (see post #46). He also admits to stealing the money, so plea deal is possible without even having to enter trial etc...

This is a very simple case of fraud, not of hacking or misbalance of funds etc.

Whoever skyped him, and saw his face, will be very strong evidence if testimony is ever needed.

[BigBitz]

ironcross360 is a constant spammer/nonsense talker so just ignore him.

[hwmax]

Recover Schedule

address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui           ryanAC      1.8                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911
14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK                          2.1                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896
126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D   hwmax               2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891
19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891
Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661
Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891
18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891
1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5                   2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378
1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891
1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881
1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383
                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         


This, I believe, is the current state of play. We have close to 42BTC in scammed funds. As you know I have 16.4BTC at the moment I have decided to work on percentages of theft against percentages of losses so in short you're "claim" will be valued against the total scammed coins claimed and a pro-rata refund will be issued.

Some people will see this as fair. Rest assured I have thought about this and thought about how to provide people with some of their coins back. You're not going to get them all as we know. The main reason for this is DesignDream got hit for 17.39BTC in total and I think giving everyone a small amount back is better than getting none back. I assume most of you thought you would never see those coins again so please try and accept this and realize it is a fair method.

As of right now -- 7:38GMT [current forum time] no new claims will be accepted. I can't return anything to everyone scammed by this guy.

I hope you all agree this is fair and I am trying to do what's right but if someone has any suggestions etc post them.

For Additional Transparency this is the TX where he sent me the 16.4BTC --> https://blockchain.info/tx/8d71e6c9aab72c32f15612f81c8d55b209f6ae54c12ca6486f078abf8d0d638f

Right now I need people to send their info either in a PM to BigBitz, BCB, JohnK on this forum. Or post the information publicly.

Thanks for doing this, just to point out, my sending address is: 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 not 126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D as shown here: https://blockchain.info/de/tx/48d506d00e0894b82cb67301fe5996cb24335ac83a0dd3a639b301fd2e9f7519 and https://i.imgur.com/0hvIoBQ.png?1

As I stated previously, it was sent from localbitcoins ewallet so a refund to that address wouldn't be of any use; could I let you login to the account to confirm the transaction so that you could send the refund to a different address?

[BigBitz]

Table Updated.

Recover Schedule

address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911
14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896
126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891
19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891
Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661
Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891
18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891
1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378
1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891
1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881
1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383
                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

[BigBitz]

Should we set a deadline for unclaimed funds?

Therealcos is not one of those present in the table above but has proven he got scammed with multiple screenshots and the TXID information to Kruniac address.

I am suggesting if there is some unclaimed funds by, an agreeable date, say 17th June? that is one week from today, then I can refund some to Therealcos.

any other outstanding funds will be donated to something or someone.

[Lastro]

Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some.

It's weird, but there is no option to keep any of those scammed and rescammedued coins for you. I vote for either splitting them up between parties, that show and can proof their claim or, even preferrable, donate the rest, that was not showing up/proved, publicly to  EFF or something else of your choice.

Best"
  wo0x

Those are BigBitz's coins, not "scammed coins" and there is no vote to be taken. Essentially, he doesn't have to do this at all. If someone told me this occured, I would not have believed had I not read it and seen it confirmed - faith in humanity restored!

I know how it feels, was scammed 8k this winter. I filed police reports and then stayed on it, buying background checks and since I have a network degree, I was able to produce reports, then I continued pressuring the police investigator, it took two months and the investigator confirmed I was telling the truth, and the hammer dropped, and it dropped hard. The criminals called me after being arrested apologizing and fearing long sentences.

A few things - I encourage all that have been scammed to persue this matter. If it is not persued, the scammer will change identities and continue burning victims. Despite what a "hero" member has posted, this is a crime in the United States.

[ironcross360]

The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...

[Therealcos]

The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...

You haven't said one helpful thing on this thread, ironcross360. What are you after?
Either way, a crime should not be left unpunished. I'm not sure how far the hands of the german police can reach regarding bitcoin, but that won't stop me from filing the report. And it definitely shouldn't stop all of you living in the US. File the report.


Also, as Lastro posted: Faith in humanity restored.
BigBitz doesn't have to do any of this, but he does. It's people like him, with integrity, that make Bitcoin thrive and make this community a place I want to be a part of, despite people like Kruniac. People who think they can fool the world. Karma will find you, Kruniac. For every person you ever tricked or fooled, you have given up your chance to a worthy life. I hope you're proud. I hope your parents are proud.