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June 08, 2013, 11:34:57 PM
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Here's the entire unedited conversation for transparency's sake.



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[18:51] <jwest411_> hi
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[18:51] <Kruniac> Sup.
[18:51] <BCB> so what is going on
[18:51] <BCB> thee are rumers you are scamming asicminor shares
[18:51] <Kruniac> I'm aware. There's a thread about it.
[18:51] <BCB> you showed up on a scammer list
[18:51] <BCB> what's up
[18:51] <Kruniac> What list?
[18:52] <BCB> tomatocage's list
[18:52] <Kruniac> I only know of a thread someone made.
[18:52] <Kruniac> I don't know what that is.
[18:53] <Kruniac> Asking me what's going on (or anyone asking me what's going on) is moot. Friedcat is the only guy who can clear this up.
[18:53] <jwest411_> so friedcat said to me i got my share, but then told other ppl the share was gone
[18:53] <Kruniac> In fact, I'm still missing escrow money because he hasn't communicated transfers.
[18:53] <Kruniac> Okay, and that's impossible.
[18:54] <Kruniac> Provide a screenshot of the message from Friedcat, please.
[18:54] <jwest411_>  If you have time, id love to know that he controls this share. if you're too busy, just knowing he sent you the following message will suffice.     Kruniac Jr. Member   Online  Posts: 33       Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Copy of PM to: Friedcat « Sent to: jwest411 on: June 07, 2013, 01:10:09 AM » Quote  Reply  Delete   -------------- My username is Kruniac (As you can see), controlling Bitcoin address: 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz I received one (1) share of ASICMin
[18:54] <BCB> is friedcat on irc
[18:54] <Kruniac> No.
[18:54] <Kruniac> No to BC.
[18:54] <Kruniac> BCB*
[18:54] <Kruniac> And no to that copy pasta.
[18:55] <Kruniac> I can do that and say I'm Obama.
[18:55] <Kruniac> SCREENSHOT the message.
[18:55] <jwest411_> how do i send a screenshot here
[18:56] <Kruniac> Use Imgurl or something
[18:56] <BCB> imgur.com
[18:56] <Kruniac> There you go.
[18:56] <jwest411_> http://imgur.com/VIUuAgO
[18:57] <Kruniac> That's a screenshot of a message from me.
[18:57] <Kruniac> Where is the message from Friedcat.
[18:57] <jwest411_> k i scroll down and take another
[18:57] <Kruniac> All I want to see is Friedcat's message.
[18:57] <BCB> Kruniac, you also using NICK: Boelens
[18:57] <BCB> ??
[18:57] <Kruniac> No.
[18:58] <Kruniac> I don't know that Nick.
[18:58] <Kruniac> IRC?
[18:58] <BCB> no
[18:58] <BCB> BCT
[18:58] <Kruniac> Okay.
[18:58] <jwest411_> http://imgur.com/6osnHio
[18:59] <Kruniac> Jwest. Come on, man.
[18:59] <Kruniac> Stop messing around.
[18:59] <jwest411_> Huh
[18:59] <Kruniac> Did you notice that I CANNOT SEE THE USERNAME in that picture?
[19:00] <jwest411_> jesus christ
[19:00] <jwest411_> its the same message
[19:00] <jwest411_> OKAY ill shrink it and resend
[19:00] <Kruniac> No. It's fine.
[19:00] <Kruniac> You're right. Absolutely right.
[19:00] <Kruniac> Friedcat did send it, I guess.
[19:01] <Kruniac> That honestly doesn't add up.
[19:01] <BCB> so what is the situation
[19:01] <jwest411_> so friedcat sent a share to me
[19:01] <jwest411_> other ppl said to kruniac hey wheres my share?
[19:01] <Kruniac> The situation is that Friedcat sent a share to JWest. He should not have sent that share.
[19:01] <jwest411_> no
[19:02] <jwest411_> i bought a share from you
[19:02] <jwest411_> friedcat sent that share to me
[19:02] <Kruniac> You're not seeing the bigger picture.
[19:02] <Kruniac> Why did he send you that share?
[19:02] <jwest411_> because you PMed him to!
[19:02] <Kruniac> No, I didn't.
[19:02] <Kruniac> See. That's the rub.
[19:02] <jwest411_> look at the message you sent
[19:02] <jwest411_> in the screenshot
[19:02] <jwest411_> you do all the info
[19:02] <jwest411_> then other ppl are saying hey you promised me a share too
[19:03] <Kruniac> I have exactly two messages I've ever sent to Friedcat.
[19:03] <Kruniac> One was a transfer to methax.
[19:03] <Kruniac> The other was to ask about that transfer.
[19:03] <jwest411_> so then you lied and told me you sent that to friedcat?
[19:03] <jwest411_> bc in the quote in that screenshot is a quote of a message you sent me
[19:03] <jwest411_> signed with your key and stuff
[19:03] <Kruniac> Let's say that I did. I want to know exactly HOW you got that share.
[19:03] <Kruniac> Because it can't be that easy to fake a request.
[19:03] <Kruniac> The message I sent to YOU doesn't matter.
[19:04] <jwest411_> so are you saying you didnt sell me a share?
[19:04] <Kruniac> I'm really wondering why Friedcat transferred a share to someone that I did not message him about.
[19:04] <jwest411_> kruniac are you saying you didnt sell me a share?
[19:04] <Kruniac> No, I sold you a share. There's no doubt about that.
[19:05] <jwest411_> so whats the problem?
[19:05] <Kruniac> I did not message Friedcat transferring your share.
[19:05] <Kruniac> You must have taken it upon yourself.
[19:06] <Kruniac> That's the problem.
[19:06] <jwest411_> you provided me the info for friedcat to xfer the share. HOWEVER the issue at hand is other ppl say that you provided to sell them shares as well, and you only owned the share you sold to me
[19:06] <Kruniac> No. The ISSUE is that a share got "legitimately" transferred to you when I didn't transfer it to you.
[19:06] <Kruniac> That's the ISSUE.
[19:07] <BCB> Kruniac, how many Shares do you own
[19:07] <Kruniac> Zero.
[19:07] <Kruniac> I own zero shares.
[19:07] <BCB> Kruniac, how many did you sell
[19:07] <Kruniac> I don't even know. Legitimately or illegitimately?
[19:07] <BCB> so you did sell shares you did not own??
[19:08] <Kruniac> Yeah, sure. We've all figured that out by now.
[19:08] <Kruniac> My problem is that Jwest used some assurance or promise and somehow gained control of a share.
[19:08] <Kruniac> I sold one share to Methax.
[19:08] <Kruniac> That's legitimate.
[19:08] <BCB> so how many share did you sell that you did not own
[19:08] <Kruniac> Just an obscene amount. About 50 BTC worth
[19:08] <Kruniac> Again, we're not addressing this Jwest situation
[19:09] <Kruniac> Jwest411 - you can imagine my surprise by your "ownership" since I never send a message to Friedcat.
[19:09] <Kruniac> I mean, you can understand how I'm amazed by it.
[19:10] <BCB> Kruniac, so who do you still owe shares to??
[19:10] <Kruniac> God only knows. That's not what I'm talking about.
[19:10] <Kruniac> I want to know how he got that damn share.
[19:10] <BCB> jwest411_, how did you get that share
[19:10] <Kruniac> So what is this, are you scamming a scammer? That makes it okay?
[19:11] <BCB> jwest411_, did you buy it from Kruniac
[19:11] <Kruniac> Because you're not scamming me. You're scamming methax.
[19:11] <jwest411_> ya i agreed to
[19:11] <jwest411_> and paid him
[19:11] <Kruniac> He did do that.
[19:11] <jwest411_> and he sent me that message he sent friedcat
[19:11] <Kruniac> I'm not disputing that.
[19:11] <jwest411_> which he apparently never sent to friedcat
[19:11] <Kruniac> That's my exact point.
[19:11] <BCB> jwest411_, does Kruniac still owe you a share
[19:11] <Kruniac> I never sent friedcat shit.
[19:11] <Kruniac> So HOW did you get that share?
[19:11] <jwest411_> no i dont believe so
[19:11] <jwest411_> i beleive i was the lucky one who got the share
[19:12] <jwest411_> based on friedcats response to me
[19:12] <Kruniac> And that's bullshit.
[19:12] <Kruniac> Because Methax is supposed to have it.
[19:12] <jwest411_> its bullshit you didnt scam me?
[19:12] <Kruniac> I traded with Methax FIRST. I sent his request FIRST.
[19:12] <Kruniac> June 05, 2013, 06:32:15 AM
[19:12] <BCB> is methax on irc
[19:12] <jwest411_> so you scammed 50 btc
[19:12] <Kruniac> Not at all. He's a forum guy.
[19:12] <jwest411_> and youre pissed the wrong person got the 1 share?
[19:12] <Kruniac> This isn't about me scamming. We all have it clear about that.
[19:13] <Kruniac> This is about you faking a transfer and/or Friedcat believing it.
[19:13] <jwest411_> i dont get it
[19:13] <Kruniac> I NEVER sent you a message.
[19:13] <Kruniac> Er.
[19:13] <Kruniac> Friedcat*
[19:13] <jwest411_> why do you want methax to get it and not me btw? why do you care?
[19:13] <Kruniac> Here. You want to bring legit BCB into it?
[19:13] <Kruniac> Here is my official statement.
[19:14] <Kruniac> I sold one (1) share of ASICMiner (direct) that I bought to user: methax
[19:14] <jwest411_> why do you want methix to get it and not me?
[19:14] <Kruniac> I sent a transfer request as noted here: http://i.imgur.com/lQ74OhC.png
[19:14] <Kruniac> Are you not paying attention.
[19:14] <Kruniac> METHAX OWNS THE SHARE.
[19:15] <Kruniac> That is a legitimate transfer PM sent to Methax.
[19:15] <Kruniac> BCB, you witness this.
[19:15] <jwest411_> can you answer my Q though?
[19:15] <Kruniac> You really wanna know? >Smiley
[19:15] <Kruniac> I mean... REALLY?
[19:15] <BCB> I'm trying to follow but you don't sound like you are being honest
[19:15] <Kruniac> BCB, that's the thing. I'm being honest. This isn't a run around.
[19:16] <Kruniac> I scammed shitloads of people for 2.4 BTC each, round abouts.
[19:16] <Kruniac> That is honest.
[19:16] <Kruniac> I did NOT transfer the share to jwest.
[19:16] <Kruniac> Honest.
[19:16] <Kruniac> I DID transfer the share (as seen by screenshot) to methax. Honest.
[19:16] <Kruniac> Jwest - to answer your question...
[19:16] <Kruniac> Methax owes me money in escrow for the share.
[19:17] <Kruniac> I HAD to legitimately transfer the share.
[19:17] <Kruniac> Otherwise, I don't receive my funds.
[19:17] <jwest411_> ahhhhhh so you get more $ if methax gets his share
[19:17] <Kruniac> I've LITERALLY been waiting days for Friedcat to send the confirmation. He has not.
[19:17] <Kruniac> Even now he has not.
[19:17] <Kruniac> That's how I know that you're sketchy about this.
[19:17] <Kruniac> I sent two PMs to Friedcat. One transferring the share to Methax http://i.imgur.com/lQ74OhC.png
[19:18] <Kruniac> Another asking for confirmation.
[19:18] <Kruniac> Both were never answered.
[19:18] <Kruniac> I think that's about all I can say.
[19:18] <Kruniac> When you PMed me saying that you "owned" the share and you'll help clear my name, I knew you were lying.
[19:18] <Kruniac> And if you're telling the truth, then Friedcat screwed up.
[19:18] <Kruniac> Because I never transferred that share to you.
[19:18] <Kruniac> ;;monologue
[19:18] <Kruniac> XD
[19:19] <Kruniac> Now. I'm going to get some McDonalds, and maybe hit the mall. BCB, I'm sorry I lied to you in the PM I sent you. You're a legit guy, and you're a good businessman.
[19:19] <Kruniac> AFK. Msg me if you want anything
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June 08, 2013, 11:45:06 PM
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if youre a victim, please post here
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June 08, 2013, 11:50:44 PM
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Seems I'm another victim unfortunately. Do you want me to provide the PM conversation?
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Seems I'm another victim unfortunately. Do you want me to provide the PM conversation?

Pls post the details.

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June 08, 2013, 11:57:32 PM
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Seems I'm another victim unfortunately. Do you want me to provide the PM conversation?

Pls post the details.


How do you want me to present it?
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June 09, 2013, 12:01:26 AM
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Seems I'm another victim unfortunately. Do you want me to provide the PM conversation?

Pls post the details.


How do you want me to present it?

chat logs

PM's

payments

any and all details proving he offered shares and that you paid for it.
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June 09, 2013, 12:03:58 AM
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this is the address Kruniac used to receive payments:

https://blockchain.info/address/14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
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June 09, 2013, 12:12:47 AM
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His PMs: http://i.imgur.com/32opgz4.png?1

My replies: http://i.imgur.com/0hvIoBQ.png?1

Let me know if there is any other information I can provide.

I guess the lesson from this is to be sure to use Escrow if you have any doubts at all!
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June 09, 2013, 12:21:16 AM
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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.
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June 09, 2013, 03:39:30 AM
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I was scammed as well....

Original message:
Would you be interested in buying an ASICMiner share? I found you in an auction thread for ASICMiner shares, and figured you were in the market. Smiley

I'll resell at 2.4 BTC. I can do more with the BTC than I can with the share TBH.

Proof of ownership is at this auction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223560.msg2364193#msg2364193


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This message is from address: 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
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Signature: HxZHgnBWombwu+Mpy29gFPpZAaeoXNT00OIpk3XtZEKquT8vaL4TTEz7tG36/SL1GCy/PaSHdZ6toB4A0v5R9P8=

After I paid him, here is the confirmation (or so he says) that he requested the transfer from friedcat:
Sorry about the wait.

I just received the payment, and I've sent a PM to Friedcat authorizing the transfer of the share with the following information:

User: dhenson
Address: 18fPWLnW22EobTwSUU5kQySfYu4eT4zT59

Great doing business with you. Don't forget to Trust after you receive confirmation. Smiley

Of course, I didn't receive a share.
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June 09, 2013, 03:47:17 AM
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I did some Google searching on "KRUNIAC" and it seems that the handle is really only used by one guy:
  Garrott Gardner
  Birth Date 06/13/1984
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  805 W WASHINGTON ST UNIT 3
  HAGERSTOWN, MD 21740

I of course can't prove that this tool is really the Kruniac from this forum:


On this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216300.msg2300001#msg2300001

Kruniac offers to purchase 2.7 btc from JoeChmoe the day before Kruniac ends up buying his 1 Asicminer share. (via BoA Transfer)

Via PM, JoeChmoe denies selling him the btc.  However, if JoeChmoe really did have history of the BoA transfer, we could know definitively the real identity of Kruniac and could transfer the matter to the authorities.

In the above chatlog, Kruniac connected via a Comcast IP address: https://ipdb.at/ip/68.55.37.228 Which is also based in Maryland.
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thats 100% a pic of him i skyped with him

EDIT 99% I got this pic of him

http://imgur.com/4cJQkOa
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June 09, 2013, 03:55:20 AM
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JWest,

What timezone is that chat log from.  In order for the cops to subpoena his ISP to verify he was logged in on that IP address at that time I'll need to know that information.

Thanks.
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June 09, 2013, 04:05:37 AM
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eastern time
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June 09, 2013, 04:08:27 AM
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I am pretty sure I was the first person to buy his share.
https://blockchain.info/tx/43a991e1073d5f81bac777ab11fb9085fe7138a031c8f7b0cd5dd748f1ad7e79

He took 1.8 for it.  You'll notice that that transaction comes right after the ASICMiner dividend tx:
https://blockchain.info/tx/4b194ffb4c9f0b80c4e4752ef87855e17c209542eb95c1381dafd2cd860b12f5

He signed multiple message stating intent to sell, followed by a request to transfer using that dividend address 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

Receiving the signing requests with that address gave me confidence it was legit.
I forwarded the signed transfer requests to friedcat... as soon as I got them.

Later that day I found him discussing selling to another person on OTC...


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June 09, 2013, 04:13:51 AM
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I am a victim as well. Sad
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As far as verifying the dox above...
He sent me a picture of a MoneyPak receipt purchased in MD (that afternoon upon my request). 
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This was about a week before on 5/31/13.

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June 09, 2013, 05:23:25 AM
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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.

I sent the funds back to you after determining that this chap's not transferring any shares to you.

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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.

I sent the funds back to you after determining that this chap's not transferring any shares to you.

No, I ACTUALLY DID transfer the share via Friedcat. In fact, he was the only person I transferred shares to. Why?

He used escrow Smiley

You can check the PM records (if you can do that, John). I sent two PMs to Friedcat.

One was me transferring the share to Methax.

The other was me trying to confirm the share to Friedcat.

Regardless of what happened with any other transactions, it sounds like Friedcat made a transfer based on someone else's message (jwest?). I transferred ownership of that share on June 05, 2013, at 08:16:26 AM.


No other PMs were sent to Friedcat involving a transfer.

Methax is the only person authorized by me to own that share. Period. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

At this point, I'm not even interested in the escrow. It's the principle Tongue

Methax was the only person to demand escrow. I accepted. I legitimately transferred ownership of the share BECAUSE he demanded escrow.

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June 09, 2013, 07:07:47 AM
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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.

I sent the funds back to you after determining that this chap's not transferring any shares to you.

No, I ACTUALLY DID transfer the share via Friedcat. In fact, he was the only person I transferred shares to. Why?

He used escrow Smiley

You can check the PM records (if you can do that, John). I sent two PMs to Friedcat.

One was me transferring the share to Methax.

The other was me trying to confirm the share to Friedcat.

Regardless of what happened with any other transactions, it sounds like Friedcat made a transfer based on someone else's message (jwest?). I transferred ownership of that share on June 05, 2013, at 08:16:26 AM.


No other PMs were sent to Friedcat involving a transfer.

Methax is the only person authorized by me to own that share. Period. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

At this point, I'm not even interested in the escrow. It's the principle Tongue

Methax was the only person to demand escrow. I accepted. I legitimately transferred ownership of the share BECAUSE he demanded escrow.

I'm not the admin here. Anyway, I think I have sufficient proof that the share isn't transferred to him, and that you're trying to sell the poor share multiple times, so the funds is refunded to the buyer.

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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.

I sent the funds back to you after determining that this chap's not transferring any shares to you.

No, I ACTUALLY DID transfer the share via Friedcat. In fact, he was the only person I transferred shares to. Why?

He used escrow Smiley

You can check the PM records (if you can do that, John). I sent two PMs to Friedcat.

One was me transferring the share to Methax.

The other was me trying to confirm the share to Friedcat.

Regardless of what happened with any other transactions, it sounds like Friedcat made a transfer based on someone else's message (jwest?). I transferred ownership of that share on June 05, 2013, at 08:16:26 AM.


No other PMs were sent to Friedcat involving a transfer.

Methax is the only person authorized by me to own that share. Period. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

At this point, I'm not even interested in the escrow. It's the principle Tongue

Methax was the only person to demand escrow. I accepted. I legitimately transferred ownership of the share BECAUSE he demanded escrow.

I'm not the admin here. Anyway, I think I have sufficient proof that the share isn't transferred to him, and that you're trying to sell the poor share multiple times, so the funds is refunded to the buyer.

I'll let this go. I made my money.

I will say this - I DID transfer the share to methax before I made any deals with anyone else.

I DO have screenshots to prove this.

I transferred it because HE USED ESCROW, and I COULD NOT get funds without LEGITIMATELY transferring it.

That's all.

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I paid for 1 ASICMiner share from Kruniac yesterday:

INBOX:

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ASICMiner share
« Sent to: Therealcos on: June 06, 2013, 10:35:34 PM »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »
Would you be interested in buying an ASICMiner share? I found you in an auction thread for ASICMiner shares, and figured you were in the market.

I'll resell at 2.45 BTC. I can do more with the BTC than I can with the share TBH.

Proof of ownership is at this auction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223560.msg2364193#msg2364193


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« Sent to: Therealcos on: June 07, 2013, 12:49:59 AM »
That sounds good to me!  

If you happen to not win the auction, just send me a PM to see if I still have the share.

At any rate, good luck with your bidding.

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« Sent to: Therealcos on: June 07, 2013, 10:02:31 PM »
It certainly does!

One ASICMiner share @ 2.45 BTC.

Proof of ownership: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223560.msg2364193#msg2364193


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This message is from address: 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
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Signature: HxZHgnBWombwu+Mpy29gFPpZAaeoXNT00OIpk3XtZEKquT8vaL4TTEz7tG36/SL1GCy/PaSHdZ6toB4A0v5R9P8=



If you're interested, please provide me with the address you'd like dividends sent to, the username you'd like associated with the share transfer, as well as the TxID of payment to the following address:

19qxEXvt22gSfrXKj3TPPAF2112Rs81DJ4

If everything goes smoothly, I'll pass the PM along to Friedcat authorizing the transfer.

Also, please remember to rate Trust after Friedcat contacts you confirming the transfer.


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« Sent to: Therealcos on: June 08, 2013, 03:26:08 AM »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »
Hey. Sorry to bug you, but did you still want that share, or can I stop holding it?


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« Sent to: Therealcos on: June 08, 2013, 04:29:38 AM »
I understand. That will be fine - I'm not expecting any other transactions, so I'll trust that it's you.

I'll send the PM to Friedcat with the following information:

User: Therealcos
Address: 1NGNmWMKrUemNDsT6KyzKtsABxus3Lnr9


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« Sent to: Therealcos on: June 08, 2013, 04:35:23 AM »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »
I got it just fine. I'll send the PM off ASAP - you should hear back from Friedcat within 48 hours (just an estimate - he's pretty swamped).

Don't forget to trust when you receive confirmation.
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OUTBOX:

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Re: ASICMiner share
« Sent to: Kruniac on: June 07, 2013, 12:47:41 AM »
Hi Kruniac,
Actually I would like to buy a share, but the amount I have offered at the auction is my entire contingent for trading. In case the auction doesn't work out for me, and you're still interested, we can do this. I'll let you know, but I can't promise until tomorrow.

Have a nice day!


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Re: ASICMiner share
« Sent to: Kruniac on: June 07, 2013, 07:31:28 PM »
Hey Kruniac, does your offer still stand?

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Re: Share
« Sent to: Kruniac on: June 08, 2013, 04:17:44 AM »
Hey Kruniac,

Sorry for taking so long to reply. Yes, I'll take it. Before I send the funds, know that I will transfer them from MtGox, so I can only retrieve the ID they show me, I'm not sure if that corresponds to the txID in the blockchain or is MtGox specific. Is it okay?

Other than that, this username is fine and the address is
1NGNmWMKrUemNDsT6KyzKtsABxus3Lnr9

I'll send the payment after receiving your confirmation


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Re: Share
« Sent to: Kruniac on: June 08, 2013, 04:31:26 AM »
Hi Kruniac,

I just sent the BTC2.45 to your address

The txID is fcd98fc1669496ee8385ae729bf920d37ea2145c6c55c96412c49e2ce65cbee7

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wo0x@bitcointalk proofs control of 1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd
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Sig: Gy7I85C08ljxbimouX+fNIxjkbGxnh5dcX5rLXgy3amXc3VIR1v6wAa3wIU3PY34/dA7HtxTR9zwXYZtVEVO5oo=


I sent him 2.35 in tx a94a47f563e679f1b27ad9ee6837e7d27599f5a9a261f7ea9a366948aba0220c ... shame on me, obviously w/o escrow.

jwest, I sent pm to you later. To point out here, friedcat was replying to me, that the share was moved to an address starting with 1F8hkA.., owned by jwest411. if jwest411 owns that address, it'll be fine for him.
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Well he sure isn't the brightest scammer. He personally admitted for his actions, several people have chat logs as proof, and someone even found his home address. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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Theft can be a felony when the value of stolen property exceeds $1,000, and at this level it is considered grand theft. If the value of stolen property falls under $10,000, the crime is punishable by up to a $10,000 fine and 10 years imprisonment. When the value of stolen property falls between $10,000 and $100,000, the crime is punishable by up to a $15,000 fine and 15 years imprisonment. Once the value of stolen property exceeds $100,000, the penalty can be up to 25 years in prison and a $25,000 fine. Grand theft can be charged in the third, second or first degree based on these stolen property value thresholds, respectively.
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June 09, 2013, 08:38:12 AM
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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.

I sent the funds back to you after determining that this chap's not transferring any shares to you.

No, I ACTUALLY DID transfer the share via Friedcat. In fact, he was the only person I transferred shares to. Why?

He used escrow Smiley

You can check the PM records (if you can do that, John). I sent two PMs to Friedcat.

One was me transferring the share to Methax.

The other was me trying to confirm the share to Friedcat.

Regardless of what happened with any other transactions, it sounds like Friedcat made a transfer based on someone else's message (jwest?). I transferred ownership of that share on June 05, 2013, at 08:16:26 AM.


No other PMs were sent to Friedcat involving a transfer.

Methax is the only person authorized by me to own that share. Period. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

At this point, I'm not even interested in the escrow. It's the principle Tongue

Methax was the only person to demand escrow. I accepted. I legitimately transferred ownership of the share BECAUSE he demanded escrow.

I'm not the admin here. Anyway, I think I have sufficient proof that the share isn't transferred to him, and that you're trying to sell the poor share multiple times, so the funds is refunded to the buyer.

I'll let this go. I made my money.

I will say this - I DID transfer the share to methax before I made any deals with anyone else.

I DO have screenshots to prove this.

I transferred it because HE USED ESCROW, and I COULD NOT get funds without LEGITIMATELY transferring it.

That's all.

Meh, your words are useless to me. That's all. Please enjoy your stolen funds, one day karma's going to get back to you.

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Without claiming completeness or claiming that all transactions mentioned here are scam.
Please send messages, if you revail and proof ownership of one of those addresses.

Thanks

dateaddressproving owneramount of BTC
2013-06-05 23:18:1719GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui1.8
2013-06-05 18:53:5814Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK2.1
2013-06-06 00:55:18126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D2.2
2013-06-06 02:20:3019UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq2.2
2013-06-06 03:53:312.29663866
2013-06-06 08:49:102.2
2013-06-06 20:49:2118kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK2.2
2013-06-07 01:34:361PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd52.45
2013-06-07 03:22:561EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD2.2
2013-06-07 06:03:001Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK2.4
2013-06-07 09:23:581vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttdwo0x2.35


Source: http://blockchain.info/address/14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
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June 09, 2013, 11:06:55 AM
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Wow, what a worthless piece of shit, this Garrott Gardner.

Always remember rule #0:
Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER. There are plenty of veteran members to do business with and ALWAYS use escrow. If you're a newbie you're doing business with another newbie, there's a 100% chance that you will get scammed (or you're a scammer yourself).

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I bought 16.4BTC from him some nights ago. I paid using International Wire.

I have cancelled this payment and he will not get any money from me until this situation is resolved.

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June 09, 2013, 03:33:46 PM
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There may be a possiblity of recovering your funds.

Please post a signed message in this thread proving your owner ship of the address you used to send Kruniac the funds.

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So having had a quick discussion with BCB I think what I will do is return the 16.4BTC to you people who were scammed.

I could 11 potentially scam transactions for ASICMiner shares, I believe one was fulfilled so that leaves 10?

To adjust for fairness I believe 1.6BTC to be returned to each of you who can prove the address/transactions etc is good?

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I sent from localbitcoins which does not support signing, but here is a screenshot from my wallet transactions on there which matches up with the PM he sent shown earlier: http://i.imgur.com/1oPAQAF.png
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So having had a quick discussion with BCB I think what I will do is return the 16.4BTC to you people who were scammed.

I could 11 potentially scam transactions for ASICMiner shares, I believe one was fulfilled so that leaves 10?

To adjust for fairness I believe 1.6BTC to be returned to each of you who can prove the address/transactions etc is good?

Wow this is an amazing turn of events.  I still feel that we should pursue prosecution.  Once the list of victims is compiled we should all be named on the complaint (well, those that want to be) so that the total value of the heist is large enough for the local police to take action.

Transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6a4994b257f2881095be0d2162e757485ca87ecbd10d6dd74a312ea408f64fcd

Address:
1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK

Message:
dhenson is the owner of 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXdjvC4kYK  Thank you for returning my funds!!!

Signature:
G1ghiheVYg5272OL6QVuE1ffoLNGM+3ycHZggM79IcrWLP+NWpStZKF1vg9oepvGNKJa61GaDUaBAboArNrEEag=

Thank You!
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Keep posting information and any screenshots, TXIDs and PMs etc.

I will ask JohnK and BCB to review and between us we will decide if the proof is good enough to return any funds.

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June 09, 2013, 05:13:27 PM
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I unfortunately received a message from him;

Would you be interested in buying an ASICMiner share? I found you in an auction thread for ASICMiner shares, and figured you were in the market. Smiley

I'll resell at 2.2 BTC. I can do more with the BTC than I can with the share TBH.

Proof of ownership is at this auction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223560.msg2364193#msg2364193

However, I was one of the lucky ones who didn't send any money to him, I was close though, I really wanted that share.

So I guess the moral of the story is not to trust people through PMs and if there is a large enough amount at stake that you would prefer not to risk, use escrow services provided.

Hope all of you guys get sorted out, big up to all those who are funding the money back, you guys are troopers and the type of people who keep this community together as a whole.

If I had anything to give, I would, but alas.

If I can be any help to anyone, please message me!

Thanks, Matt.
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Keep posting information and any screenshots, TXIDs and PMs etc.

I will ask JohnK and BCB to review and between us we will decide if the proof is good enough to return any funds.

Is my signature sufficient, or are you saying you would like further screenshots?
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Hi guys, thanks for this. It was great waking up to this glory.

Time to get this guy.
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thanks to all, I sent PM to BCB, BigBitz and jwest411.
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June 09, 2013, 07:42:11 PM
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ill help ya get it all back.

Why are you just staring at this? Just send it! 1MHZjADM41ttjbPUiTPYWGYGm45XLf8ZeS
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Has anyone been taken to court over a scam like this? He scammed me on IRC via OTC.
I want to know how to do this. I have all the logs and he was authed. I also have his IP address.. He admitted to everyone in the channel that he scammed me and sent me a message to get over it. 

https://blockchain.info/tx/8cc4ebbc1fe75165e00474344ce6500a12869578155068274317bbcaa3281914

Here is his response on bitcointalk to me over getting scammed..

http://i.imgur.com/KtWVjka.png

I was doing this all to buy my girlfriend a puppy. The majority of OTC was aware that I was looking for paypal for this reason. Today I was supposed to meetup and pay for the puppy and now haven't been able to do so.  This has completely ruined my trust in the WoT. BCB had vouched for him shortly prior to me sending the funds. I trust BCB very much so and he had done successful transactions with him. So I know he isn't at fault.  But this is devastating.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Its not illegal.

Why are you just staring at this? Just send it! 1MHZjADM41ttjbPUiTPYWGYGm45XLf8ZeS
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Has anyone been taken to court over a scam like this? He scammed me on IRC via OTC.
I want to know how to do this. I have all the logs and he was authed. I also have his IP address.. He admitted to everyone in the channel that he scammed me and sent me a message to get over it.  

https://blockchain.info/tx/8cc4ebbc1fe75165e00474344ce6500a12869578155068274317bbcaa3281914

Here is his response on bitcointalk to me over getting scammed..

http://i.imgur.com/KtWVjka.png

I was doing this all to buy my girlfriend a puppy. The majority of OTC was aware that I was looking for paypal for this reason. Today I was supposed to meetup and pay for the puppy and now haven't been able to do so.  This has completely ruined my trust in the WoT. BCB had vouched for him shortly prior to me sending the funds. I trust BCB very much so and he had done successful transactions with him. So I know he isn't at fault.  But this is devastating.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Its not illegal.

Don't be so sure it's not illegal, because there is no precedent that shows that bitcoin is not valid consideration in contract law. What is your evidence that it's not illegal?
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June 09, 2013, 08:36:25 PM
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First off all this is probably a civil case not a criminal case.  Call a Police Station in MD.

Then I guess you could try to file a small claim in the state of CA or MD.

Finally, I have yet to hear of single case of where a bitcoin scammer was charge let alone convicted of scamming either civilly or criminally (although that may be changing).

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June 09, 2013, 08:45:16 PM
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Here is my claim on the ASICMiner share purchased with address 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK

Message:
ryanAC is the owner of 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK
I sent 1.8btc for Kruniac ASICMiner share on 06.15.2013 to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
txid 43a991e1073d5f81bac777ab11fb9085fe7138a031c8f7b0cd5dd748f1ad7e79

Sig:
IKhpITgB/hKFnDm7cnmkSqf2v9f0I2ECazOe0zz459BnkgGSIU0hX192s7pLXvjz+tmLcZvva9nsYot7/SFDI64=






And, as an added bonus, here are the signed message for the terms of our deal...

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When the payment of 1.8 BTC is received by the address of : 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

A transfer request will be sent to Friedcat for one (1) ASICMiner direct share.

The request will be made on behalf of the user ryanAC, controlling the address: 14WzWD9GP2Zq93h935JkhqY3dK91UtiyDv
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Sig: HyD7yFtPR8KeqvzJZ6Hzd6M6yEZ576nfl1lRcNwZ8Ev0/QqrB/HCgovoe4rVgkG8nWFkp9lVuwJi9IRewsxPIM4=


...and then the transfer request...
--------MESSAGE--------
My username is Kruniac (As you can see), controlling Bitcoin address: 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
I received one (1) share of ASICMiner via an auction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223560.msg2364193#msg2364193


I'd like to transfer ownership of my ASICMiner share to:

User: ryanAC
Address: 14WzWD9GP2Zq93h935JkhqY3dK91UtiyDv
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June 09, 2013, 09:08:31 PM
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I spoke with the Sheriffs dept. in the County where he lives.  This is very much illegal and is considered a felony if the sum of the counts total more than $1000 US.

To pursue this through normal criminal channels, each claimant has to submit a police report in the jurisdiction in which they live. Assuming 10 claimants, that will be 10 counts of theft.  This is unfortunate as I don't see enough of us actually following through with filing a police report.

The Maryland PD will be contacted by each of the 10 respective police departments and will add to the charges a larger more serious charge (I can't remember what he called it).

I think we have ample evidence, including concrete verification via chat log IP address.  Once the ISP has been subpoena'd there won't be a question as to the identity of the thief.

The Maryland PD already had him in their system.  The officer I spoke to didn't mention his previous charges, but he did verify that the address etc. that I provided was correct.
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The other option is to file a complaint with the IC3 (https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx)  This deparment works in conjunction with the FBI and has the ability to lump all of the instances of theft together across jurisdictional boundaries.

My personal feeling is that each victim of this crime should file BOTH with local police and with the IC3.

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June 09, 2013, 09:10:21 PM
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I spoke with the Sheriffs dept. in the County where he lives.  This is very much illegal and is considered a felony if the sum of the counts total more than $1000 US.

To pursue this through normal criminal channels, each claimant has to submit a police report in the jurisdiction in which they live. Assuming 10 claimants, that will be 10 counts of theft.  This is unfortunate as I don't see enough of us actually following through with filing a police report.

The Maryland PD will be contacted by each of the 10 respective police departments and will add to the charges a larger more serious charge (I can't remember what he called it).

I think we have ample evidence, including concrete verification via chat log IP address.  Once the ISP has been subpoena'd there won't be a question as to the identity of the thief.

The Maryland PD already had him in their system.  The officer I spoke to didn't mention his previous charges, but he did verify that the address etc. that I provided was correct.
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The other option is to file a complaint with the IC3 (https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx)  This deparment works in conjunction with the FBI and has the ability to lump all of the instances of theft together across jurisdictional boundaries.

My personal feeling is that each victim of this crime should file BOTH with local police and with the IC3.



Thank you. This is very useful information.
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I sent the payment from MtGox, so I can't sign the message... Sad

Here are screenshots of the conversations with Kruniac and of the MtGox payment to his address:
http://imgur.com/a/P4Z5K

This is the TxID: https://blockchain.info/tx/fcd98fc1669496ee8385ae729bf920d37ea2145c6c55c96412c49e2ce65cbee7
And his address where the 2.45 BTC went to: https://blockchain.info/de/address/19qxEXvt22gSfrXKj3TPPAF2112Rs81DJ4

Can I provide anything else?
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Btw, I live in Germany, and I will file a police report here.

Thank you guys for giving us a bit of hope back, you're great.
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                           address                                 owner amounttotal scammed%         Recovered   Refund
19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                        1.8         41.78663866    4%    16.4       0.706445911
14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhKryanAC             2.141.78663866   5%   16.4       0.824186896
td]126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D   hwmax             2.241.78663866   5%   16.4       0.863433891
19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                        2.2     41.78663866    5%   16.4       0.863433891
                                                                                               2.2966386641.78663866    5%    16.4       0.901361661
                                                                                                  2.2 41.78663866    5%    16.4       0.863433891
18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK            2.2    41.78663866    5%    16.4       0.863433891
1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5                     2.4541.78663866    6%    16.4       0.961551378
1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD            2.241.78663866    5%    16.4       0.863433891
1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK   dhenson           2.4 41.78663866    6%    16.4       0.941927881
1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd         wo0x         2.3541.78663866    6%    16.4       0.922304383
                                                                            Design Dream17.3941.78663866    42%    16.4      6.825052437
                                                                                                      41.78663866    100%                   
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I think it's great someone is steeping up and taking care of the people burnt in this situation. Can I ask who and why?

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date                           address                                                        proving owner   amount of BTC         Recovered   Refund
6/5/2013 23:18   19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                     1.8                   41.78663866   4%   16.4      0.706445911
6/5/2013 18:53   14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK                     2.1                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.824186896
6/6/2013 0:55           126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                     2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/6/2013 2:20           19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                     2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/6/2013 3:53                                                                                                 2.29663866   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.901361661
6/6/2013 8:49                                                                                                 2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/6/2013 20:49   18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                      2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/7/2013 1:34           1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5                      2.45                   41.78663866   6%   16.4      0.961551378
6/7/2013 3:22           1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                      2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/7/2013 6:03           1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK    dhenson               2.4                   41.78663866   6%   16.4      0.941927881
6/7/2013 9:23           1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd         wo0x                   2.35                   41.78663866   6%   16.4      0.922304383
                                                                                            Design Dream   17.39            41.78663866   42%   16.4      6.825052437
                                                                                                                  41.78663866                      100%      
If you have not already please PUBLICLY post a signature proving ownership of the addresses above.

These will be paid first.   
First, thank you very much for doing this BCB and a HUGE thank you to BigBitz for returning the funds.  Everyone involved should throw forum TRUST at these two for their part in returning the bitcoins.

Update:
I've filed a police report with the local state trooper department here in Alaska.  I've also filed a report through IC3 (http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx)

After talking to the local police department, they are going to follow up with the police dept. in Hagerstown MD.  When filing your local reports, please instruct the officer to do the same.

It doesn't really make much sense for 10 different police departments to conduct the investigation when the guy lives in MD. and they are aware of the situation.
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I think it's great someone is steeping up and taking care of the people burnt in this situation. Can I ask who and why?
That would be me, I guess!

Right before all these guys got scammed I bought 16coins from Kruanic by international wire - I was able to cancel that today and recover my money.

Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some.

We have a community where we need people to stick together!

Let it also be clear there is around 35BTC people got scammed, I have 16..... I will need to make some decisions as to split this up fairly. I will be upfront and say none of you will get all your money back but you will get some!

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Right on! One of the few cases of instant karma.

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date                           address                                                        proving owner   amount of BTC         Recovered   Refund
6/5/2013 23:18   19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                     1.8                   41.78663866   4%   16.4      0.706445911
6/5/2013 18:53   14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK                     2.1                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.824186896
6/6/2013 0:55           126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                     2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/6/2013 2:20           19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                     2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/6/2013 3:53                                                                                                 2.29663866   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.901361661
6/6/2013 8:49                                                                                                 2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/6/2013 20:49   18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                      2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/7/2013 1:34           1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5                      2.45                   41.78663866   6%   16.4      0.961551378
6/7/2013 3:22           1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                      2.2                   41.78663866   5%   16.4      0.863433891
6/7/2013 6:03           1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK    dhenson               2.4                   41.78663866   6%   16.4      0.941927881
6/7/2013 9:23           1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd         wo0x                   2.35                   41.78663866   6%   16.4      0.922304383
                                                                                            Design Dream   17.39            41.78663866   42%   16.4      6.825052437
                                                                                                                  41.78663866                      100%      
If you have not already please PUBLICLY post a signature proving ownership of the addresses above.

These will be paid first.   

The bolded is mine, as shown here: https://blockchain.info/de/tx/48d506d00e0894b82cb67301fe5996cb24335ac83a0dd3a639b301fd2e9f7519
http://i.imgur.com/0hvIoBQ.png?1

The 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 address it was sent from is the localbitcoins ewallet so cannot accept payments back to it unless I'm mistaken, so I'd have to provide an alternate address if possible.
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Bloke likes to pose half naked...



From his myspace.


Aka Cainurk, apparently.




More pictures there:
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Am I the only one who didn't send the money to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz ?
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Updated.

Please claim the remaining addresses.  If you can not sign an addy please post evidence you sent and a return address.

Thx.

Recover Schedule
                           address                                 owner amounttotal scammed%         Recovered   Refund
19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                        1.8         41.78663866    4%    16.4       0.706445911
14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhKryanAC             2.141.78663866   5%   16.4       0.824186896
td]126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D   hwmax             2.241.78663866   5%   16.4       0.863433891
19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                        2.2     41.78663866    5%   16.4       0.863433891
                                                                                               2.2966386641.78663866    5%    16.4       0.901361661
                                                                                                  2.2 41.78663866    5%    16.4       0.863433891
18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK            2.2    41.78663866    5%    16.4       0.863433891
1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5                     2.4541.78663866    6%    16.4       0.961551378
1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD            2.241.78663866    5%    16.4       0.863433891
1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK   dhenson           2.4 41.78663866    6%    16.4       0.941927881
1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd         wo0x         2.3541.78663866    6%    16.4       0.922304383
                                                                            Design Dream17.3941.78663866    42%    16.4      6.825052437
                                                                                                      41.78663866    100%                   
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June 09, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
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Am I the only one who didn't send the money to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz ?

what address did you send to?
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I think it's great someone is steeping up and taking care of the people burnt in this situation. Can I ask who and why?
That would be me, I guess!

Right before all these guys got scammed I bought 16coins from Kruanic by international wire - I was able to cancel that today and recover my money.

Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some.

We have a community where we need people to stick together!

Let it also be clear there is around 35BTC people got scammed, I have 16..... I will need to make some decisions as to split this up fairly. I will be upfront and say none of you will get all your money back but you will get some!

Well, I like your style

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Am I the only one who didn't send the money to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz ?

what address did you send to?

I sent it to 19qxEXvt22gSfrXKj3TPPAF2112Rs81DJ4

Here is a Copy+Paste from my original post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229612.msg2424242#msg2424242

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Here are screenshots of the conversations with Kruniac and of the MtGox payment to his address:
http://imgur.com/a/P4Z5K

This is the TxID: https://blockchain.info/tx/fcd98fc1669496ee8385ae729bf920d37ea2145c6c55c96412c49e2ce65cbee7
And his address where the 2.45 BTC went to: https://blockchain.info/de/address/19qxEXvt22gSfrXKj3TPPAF2112Rs81DJ4
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Am I the only one who didn't send the money to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz ?

what address did you send to?

I sent it to 19qxEXvt22gSfrXKj3TPPAF2112Rs81DJ4

Here is a Copy+Paste from my original post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229612.msg2424242#msg2424242

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Here are screenshots of the conversations with Kruniac and of the MtGox payment to his address:
http://imgur.com/a/P4Z5K

This is the TxID: https://blockchain.info/tx/fcd98fc1669496ee8385ae729bf920d37ea2145c6c55c96412c49e2ce65cbee7
And his address where the 2.45 BTC went to: https://blockchain.info/de/address/19qxEXvt22gSfrXKj3TPPAF2112Rs81DJ4

so it is not already in the list??
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What a shithole. Canned air and coffee. Breakfast of champions.

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What a shithole. Canned air and coffee. Breakfast of champions.

Yeah I hope he does something productive with my $$$.  It looks to me like his life could use a reboot.
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What a shithole. Canned air and coffee. Breakfast of champions.
Seriously, what a sissy breakfast. Freon and Red Bull or GTFO.
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address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui           ryanAC      1.8                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK                          2.1                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D   hwmax               2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5                   2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         


This, I believe, is the current state of play. We have close to 42BTC in scammed funds. As you know I have 16.4BTC at the moment I have decided to work on percentages of theft against percentages of losses so in short you're "claim" will be valued against the total scammed coins claimed and a pro-rata refund will be issued.

Some people will see this as fair. Rest assured I have thought about this and thought about how to provide people with some of their coins back. You're not going to get them all as we know. The main reason for this is DesignDream got hit for 17.39BTC in total and I think giving everyone a small amount back is better than getting none back. I assume most of you thought you would never see those coins again so please try and accept this and realize it is a fair method.

As of right now -- 7:38GMT [current forum time] no new claims will be accepted. I can't return anything to everyone scammed by this guy.

I hope you all agree this is fair and I am trying to do what's right but if someone has any suggestions etc post them.

For Additional Transparency this is the TX where he sent me the 16.4BTC --> https://blockchain.info/tx/8d71e6c9aab72c32f15612f81c8d55b209f6ae54c12ca6486f078abf8d0d638f

Right now I need people to send their info either in a PM to BigBitz, BCB, JohnK on this forum. Or post the information publicly.

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Thanks BigBitz! No complaints here.

I just hope other victims that have not responded yet find this thread.
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Thanks BigBitz! No complaints here.

I just hope other victims that have not responded yet find this thread.
I know this might happen but unfortunately we need to draw a line at some point.

People have had a few days to realize this, heck, some of them might not even use bitcointalk.org forum as well...

I just need to have a clean cut to start trying to work out who gets how much etc.

tencevad you are NOT in that list however you have proven to sent 2BTC to the address so I am going to remove one of the transactions which we have no address for - note there is two.

For Transparency I have added tencevad to the 2.2BTC transaction -- I am not going to recalculate everything so he will get the least amount of the blank transaction.

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Thanks BigBitz! No complaints here.

I just hope other victims that have not responded yet find this thread.
I know this might happen but unfortunately we need to draw a line at some point.

People have had a few days to realize this, heck, some of them might not even use bitcointalk.org forum as well...

I just need to have a clean cut to start trying to work out who gets how much etc.

tencevad you are NOT in that list however you have proven to sent 2BTC to the address so I am going to remove one of the transactions which we have no address for - note there is two.

Thanks.
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Hello all,

I just PMed BigBitz with notification that I am in fact the person that transferred 2.2 BTC to this guy at roughly 6:00 PM June 5 (Pacific) - those are in fact my 2.2 BTC.

I sent him 2.2 BTC to his address of 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

He signed with that address, and I can provide that if you would like.

My btc address is 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

Please allow me to join you guys in seeking restitution!

EDIT: Here is a picture of my interactions with him, containing transaction and contact details: http://i.imgur.com/aEiTlRg.jpg

This is my transaction to the d-bag: https://blockchain.info/tx/a8ebe244320415c6b1216ef473de41795e5240d97ea6375dd6f759450e520f18
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Hello all,

I just PMed BigBitz with notification that I am in fact the person that transferred 2.2 BTC to this guy at roughly 6:00 PM June 5 (Pacific) - those are in fact my 2.2 BTC.

I sent him 2.2 BTC to his address of 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

He signed with that address, and I can provide that if you would like.

My btc address is 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

Please allow me to join you guys in seeking restitution!

EDIT: Here is a picture of my interactions with him, containing transaction and contact details: http://i.imgur.com/aEiTlRg.jpg

This is my transaction to the d-bag: https://blockchain.info/tx/a8ebe244320415c6b1216ef473de41795e5240d97ea6375dd6f759450e520f18
I have attributed you to the remaining blank address as your BTC address is not there.

That's all folks. ONLY those BTC addresses above will be used for repayment purposes. Short of a very valid detailed claim/proof there will be no BTCs sent to alternative addresses.

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Thank you very much BigBitz and to everyone else in this thread.

I would also like to file a police report and am located in California. What information do we currently have on this fellow that I can provide to the police (at some point people went from talking about logs to filing police reports)? I want my local police to be able to contact the police in his area and was stated earlier in the thread.

Here is my signed message:

Address: 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

Message: This is Palantir13 on the bitcointalk forums and I am signing this address to confirm I was a victim of the scammer Kruniac when attempting to purchase 1 ASICMiner share. This message is being signed 6/10/2013 Pacific.

Signature: G+NrX/brdrSs2FcA4KFWBm5U81CCcrwjlRjky+iv7qVziWr3DqSB4eO1Lzyjl++ttpo94lv+pGVcXtp8ogkVpiI=



Good luck to us...

EDIT: This is the info we have (correct me if I'm wrong).

Garrott Gardner
Birth Date 06/13/1984

Address:
805 W WASHINGTON ST UNIT 3
HAGERSTOWN, MD 21740

Used IP address: 68.55.37.228

http://www.myspace.com/206360778

BTC address (will the cops care about this right now?): 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

Since he didn't deny those allegations of what his name was etc...

This facebook appears to be his: https://www.facebook.com/garrott.gardner/about

His mom's facebook: https://www.facebook.com/regina.gardner2

His brother's facebook: https://www.facebook.com/travis.gardner.9256
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June 10, 2013, 10:53:43 AM
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Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some.

It's weird, but there is no option to keep any of those scammed and rescammedued coins for you. I vote for either splitting them up between parties, that show and can proof their claim or, even preferrable, donate the rest, that was not showing up/proved, publicly to  EFF or something else of your choice.

Best"
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Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some.

It's weird, but there is no option to keep any of those scammed and rescammedued coins for you. I vote for either splitting them up between parties, that show and can proof their claim or, even preferrable, donate the rest, that was not showing up/proved, publicly to  EFF or something else of your choice.

Best"
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I'm not sure what you mean?

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June 10, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
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Thank you very much BigBitz and to everyone else in this thread.

I would also like to file a police report and am located in California. What information do we currently have on this fellow that I can provide to the police (at some point people went from talking about logs to filing police reports)? I want my local police to be able to contact the police in his area and was stated earlier in the thread.

Here is my signed message:

Address: 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

Message: This is Palantir13 on the bitcointalk forums and I am signing this address to confirm I was a victim of the scammer Kruniac when attempting to purchase 1 ASICMiner share. This message is being signed 6/10/2013 Pacific.

Signature: G+NrX/brdrSs2FcA4KFWBm5U81CCcrwjlRjky+iv7qVziWr3DqSB4eO1Lzyjl++ttpo94lv+pGVcXtp8ogkVpiI=



Good luck to us...

EDIT: This is the info we have (correct me if I'm wrong).

Garrott Gardner
Birth Date 06/13/1984

Address:
805 W WASHINGTON ST UNIT 3
HAGERSTOWN, MD 21740

Used IP address: 68.55.37.228

http://www.myspace.com/206360778

BTC address (will the cops care about this right now?): 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

Since he didn't deny those allegations of what his name was etc...

This facebook appears to be his: https://www.facebook.com/garrott.gardner/about

His mom's facebook: https://www.facebook.com/regina.gardner2

His brother's facebook: https://www.facebook.com/travis.gardner.9256
He did nothing illegal

Why are you just staring at this? Just send it! 1MHZjADM41ttjbPUiTPYWGYGm45XLf8ZeS
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June 10, 2013, 11:24:31 AM
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He did nothing illegal

You've said that repeatedly. Why isn't it illegal? Because there is no precedent for a case like this?

The Hagerstown Police/Sheriffs very much believe it is illegal if you read earlier in the thread (see post #46). He also admits to stealing the money, so plea deal is possible without even having to enter trial etc...

This is a very simple case of fraud, not of hacking or misbalance of funds etc.

Whoever skyped him, and saw his face, will be very strong evidence if testimony is ever needed.
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ironcross360 is a constant spammer/nonsense talker so just ignore him.

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address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui           ryanAC      1.8                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK                          2.1                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D   hwmax               2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5                   2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         


This, I believe, is the current state of play. We have close to 42BTC in scammed funds. As you know I have 16.4BTC at the moment I have decided to work on percentages of theft against percentages of losses so in short you're "claim" will be valued against the total scammed coins claimed and a pro-rata refund will be issued.

Some people will see this as fair. Rest assured I have thought about this and thought about how to provide people with some of their coins back. You're not going to get them all as we know. The main reason for this is DesignDream got hit for 17.39BTC in total and I think giving everyone a small amount back is better than getting none back. I assume most of you thought you would never see those coins again so please try and accept this and realize it is a fair method.

As of right now -- 7:38GMT [current forum time] no new claims will be accepted. I can't return anything to everyone scammed by this guy.

I hope you all agree this is fair and I am trying to do what's right but if someone has any suggestions etc post them.

For Additional Transparency this is the TX where he sent me the 16.4BTC --> https://blockchain.info/tx/8d71e6c9aab72c32f15612f81c8d55b209f6ae54c12ca6486f078abf8d0d638f

Right now I need people to send their info either in a PM to BigBitz, BCB, JohnK on this forum. Or post the information publicly.

Thanks for doing this, just to point out, my sending address is: 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 not 126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D as shown here: https://blockchain.info/de/tx/48d506d00e0894b82cb67301fe5996cb24335ac83a0dd3a639b301fd2e9f7519 and http://i.imgur.com/0hvIoBQ.png?1

As I stated previously, it was sent from localbitcoins ewallet so a refund to that address wouldn't be of any use; could I let you login to the account to confirm the transaction so that you could send the refund to a different address?
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Table Updated.

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address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

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June 10, 2013, 11:59:35 AM
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Should we set a deadline for unclaimed funds?

Therealcos is not one of those present in the table above but has proven he got scammed with multiple screenshots and the TXID information to Kruniac address.

I am suggesting if there is some unclaimed funds by, an agreeable date, say 17th June? that is one week from today, then I can refund some to Therealcos.

any other outstanding funds will be donated to something or someone.

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June 10, 2013, 12:14:32 PM
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Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some.

It's weird, but there is no option to keep any of those scammed and rescammedued coins for you. I vote for either splitting them up between parties, that show and can proof their claim or, even preferrable, donate the rest, that was not showing up/proved, publicly to  EFF or something else of your choice.

Best"
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Those are BigBitz's coins, not "scammed coins" and there is no vote to be taken. Essentially, he doesn't have to do this at all. If someone told me this occured, I would not have believed had I not read it and seen it confirmed - faith in humanity restored!

I know how it feels, was scammed 8k this winter. I filed police reports and then stayed on it, buying background checks and since I have a network degree, I was able to produce reports, then I continued pressuring the police investigator, it took two months and the investigator confirmed I was telling the truth, and the hammer dropped, and it dropped hard. The criminals called me after being arrested apologizing and fearing long sentences.

A few things - I encourage all that have been scammed to persue this matter. If it is not persued, the scammer will change identities and continue burning victims. Despite what a "hero" member has posted, this is a crime in the United States.
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June 10, 2013, 12:17:09 PM
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The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...

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June 10, 2013, 12:36:12 PM
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The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...

You haven't said one helpful thing on this thread, ironcross360. What are you after?
Either way, a crime should not be left unpunished. I'm not sure how far the hands of the german police can reach regarding bitcoin, but that won't stop me from filing the report. And it definitely shouldn't stop all of you living in the US. File the report.


Also, as Lastro posted: Faith in humanity restored.
BigBitz doesn't have to do any of this, but he does. It's people like him, with integrity, that make Bitcoin thrive and make this community a place I want to be a part of, despite people like Kruniac. People who think they can fool the world. Karma will find you, Kruniac. For every person you ever tricked or fooled, you have given up your chance to a worthy life. I hope you're proud. I hope your parents are proud.
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June 10, 2013, 02:50:49 PM
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The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...

The FBI, CIA, Federal Reserve and the Department of Treasury, Department of Homeland Security and Department of Justice  all have extensive knowledge of bitcoin. The recent FinCEN guidance, and DOJ/DHS action against MT GOX and it US subsidiary Mutum Sigillum make this clear and possibly indicate additional regulation and legislation coming.

 
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Got scammed as well.  Undecided I did ask him to sign a message though....

Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. Tongue

I'll compose the PM right now.

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I certainly can.


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I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment.
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Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.

As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.

Kruniac confirmed payment


Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. Tongue

I'll compose the PM right now.

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June 10, 2013, 07:03:27 PM
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Got scammed as well.  Undecided I did ask him to sign a message though....

Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. Tongue

I'll compose the PM right now.

Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa

User: TheOrri

Great doing business with you.
I certainly can.


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I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment.
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Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=

Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.

As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.

Kruniac confirmed payment


Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. Tongue

I'll compose the PM right now.

Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa

User: TheOrri

Great doing business with you.

Transaction id

eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7



That message does NOT verify.

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Got scammed as well.  Undecided I did ask him to sign a message though....

Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. Tongue

I'll compose the PM right now.

Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa

User: TheOrri

Great doing business with you.
I certainly can.


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I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment.
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Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=

Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.

As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.

Kruniac confirmed payment


Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. Tongue

I'll compose the PM right now.

Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa

User: TheOrri

Great doing business with you.

Transaction id

eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7



That message does NOT verify.

Please sign a message from the address you send funds from

Actually it does verify to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz which is the address of kruniac which I paid 2.2 to.
Please, can you check again?

Message: I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment.
Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=
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I am a victim as well. Sad

same here, oh well

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Got scammed as well.  Undecided I did ask him to sign a message though....

Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. Tongue

I'll compose the PM right now.

Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa

User: TheOrri

Great doing business with you.
I certainly can.


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I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment.
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Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=

Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.

As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.

Kruniac confirmed payment


Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. Tongue

I'll compose the PM right now.

Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa

User: TheOrri

Great doing business with you.

Transaction id

eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7



That message does NOT verify.

Please sign a message from the address you send funds from

Actually it does verify to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz which is the address of kruniac which I paid 2.2 to.
Please, can you check again?

Message: I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment.
Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=

OK - Now sign a message with your sending address.  Thx.
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The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...

The FBI, CIA, Federal Reserve and the Department of Treasury, Department of Homeland Security and Department of Justice  all have extensive knowledge of bitcoin. The recent FinCEN guidance, and DOJ/DHS action against MT GOX and it US subsidiary Mutum Sigillum make this clear and possibly indicate additional regulation and legislation coming.

A simple "STFU" would have sufficed Tongue

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TheOrri you aren't listed under any of those transactions so you will fall down to a backup -- if all those TXs are not claimed I will decide if I will refund other people.

I can't open this up carte blanch to everyone who comes in claiming it. I hope you understand.

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June 10, 2013, 09:20:49 PM
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He did nothing illegal


Whoever skyped him, and saw his face, will be very strong evidence if testimony is ever needed.



Thats me. Anyone can tell the police ill do this for them np. I can even drive down to MD if i have to.
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TheOrri you aren't listed under any of those transactions so you will fall down to a backup -- if all those TXs are not claimed I will decide if I will refund other people.

I can't open this up carte blanch to everyone who comes in claiming it. I hope you understand.

I understand, and just wanted to say that it makes me smile to see there are people like you.

Just for the record, my signed message confirming I was also stupid enough to fall for the scam, you are unfortunately not alone ....

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I, TheOrri own address 1HKtmZy2wtdnAuJMygp9pJVGge8xjMSc42 and was stupid enough to send 2.2 BTC to that f*cking scammer Kruniac. The transaction ID of this transaction is eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7

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June 10, 2013, 09:33:55 PM
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First of all your local police station are NOT going to file a report for at 200.00 internet fraud.

You have to file a small claim with your state government.

And Kruniac knows from experience that no one is going to bother to do that, which is why he is being so cavalier and nonchalant about the whole thing.
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We can still make him miserable through the power of internet.
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We can still make him miserable through the power of internet.

Frankly after talking to him I don't really think he cares what you post or do or say about him on the internet. (look at him many dating site profiles). 

 Evidently he has been through a similar incident before and has admitted to being a long time e-bay scammer. 
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BigBlitz,

Both the send and receive address match and verify.  He has a stronger claim them the other.  I recommend you add him to the claim list and re allocate payout.

If you want to be totally transparent about this you should probably only pay out (varified) addresses send to a proven Kruniac address.

The others that send from Gox or Local bitcoin address (while probably verified) could be judgment call as how do you verify the screen shots were not tampered with.

I'll leave that up to you and John.


TheOrri you aren't listed under any of those transactions so you will fall down to a backup -- if all those TXs are not claimed I will decide if I will refund other people.

I can't open this up carte blanch to everyone who comes in claiming it. I hope you understand.

I understand, and just wanted to say that it makes me smile to see there are people like you.

Just for the record, my signed message confirming I was also stupid enough to fall for the scam, you are unfortunately not alone ....

Code:
I, TheOrri own address 1HKtmZy2wtdnAuJMygp9pJVGge8xjMSc42 and was stupid enough to send 2.2 BTC to that f*cking scammer Kruniac. The transaction ID of this transaction is eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7

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Thx BCB, I will review tomorrow morning!

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June 10, 2013, 09:56:48 PM
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First of all your local police station are NOT going to file a report for at 200.00 internet fraud.

You have to file a small claim with your state government.

And Kruniac knows from experience that no one is going to bother to do that, which is why he is being so cavalier and nonchalant about the whole thing.

Depends upon what department you are with.  If it's the NYPD, probably not.  But if you live in suburbia, where our cops get easily bored and ditch the cruiser to walk around the neighborhood for a few hours just to converse with other humans, they'll be more than happy to make that report.  Though don't be too surprised if your report gets a coffee stain or doughnut stain on it!
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BigBlitz,

Both the send and receive address match and verify.  He has a stronger claim them the other.  I recommend you add him to the claim list and re allocate payout.

If you want to be totally transparent about this you should probably only pay out (varified) addresses send to a proven Kruniac address.

The others that send from Gox or Local bitcoin address (while probably verified) could be judgment call as how do you verify the screen shots were not tampered with.

I'll leave that up to you and John.


TheOrri you aren't listed under any of those transactions so you will fall down to a backup -- if all those TXs are not claimed I will decide if I will refund other people.

I can't open this up carte blanch to everyone who comes in claiming it. I hope you understand.

I understand, and just wanted to say that it makes me smile to see there are people like you.

Just for the record, my signed message confirming I was also stupid enough to fall for the scam, you are unfortunately not alone ....

Code:
I, TheOrri own address 1HKtmZy2wtdnAuJMygp9pJVGge8xjMSc42 and was stupid enough to send 2.2 BTC to that f*cking scammer Kruniac. The transaction ID of this transaction is eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7

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IH6217rE+2RJ1fVUxy1/vE7LfLjGbOqzwF3LzZRENKiR2r/2Cbx9NSXIIUq6YfVqmRRVPgXCt4vxpEw8Red55So=
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Just received this in a PM:

I'm still trying to figure out why this drama is even still unfolding, and why I'm getting BCCed on it. O.o

Alright, lemme weigh in my two cents.


1: I don't recall what you guys are talking about with all of this "scam" talk. I do not have a Bitcoin wallet that has seen any use whatsoever, and with access to a computer which sees up to 5 users a day, any one could be responsible for any number of unfortunate and most likely misunderstood dealings during the past month.

2: The moment you private message someone demanding payment (in any form) to prevent personal information from "leaking", it's classic blackmail. Extortion by US Code. Any "opinions" or "views" or "two cents" about it means nothing. It's there in plain text.

3: That having been said, I'm not interested in Ironcross, his naughty PM, or any of the "dox" on the internet. If I am indeed who you claim I am, then you could have gotten much better pictures than what you found. At least ones where I'm wearing some Armani or something. =/

4: BigBitz did go with the whole "scam a scammer" mentality, but you know what? That's okay. He's taking care of the community, and that really showed me a lot. I swore up and down that he was going to keep the coins, but he didn't (it seems). He's just a shark businessman who buys at $10 below spot, but seems to really care about giving back to those in need. I have all of the respect in the world for him, and for BCB (even if we don't agree on a few things).


At any rate. Following this tale of woe and luls has become a 20 minute a day hobby at this point. As I said, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. The whole bytecoin, betcoin, batchcoin, hocus-pocus confuses me. I'm not tech savvy enough to get involved with bitchcoins or eye are see or whatever you crazy hipsters are doing.


I WILL however be -obscenely- glad to wait and watch to see where this goes. If I'm lucky, and it gets out of hand, I can start hurling defamation lawsuits at people and make some REAL money.  We have a lawyer specifically for business transactions. He's always looking for a payday.

Your friend and neighbor - "Kruniac"


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Just received this in a PM:

I'm still trying to figure out why this drama is even still unfolding, and why I'm getting BCCed on it. O.o

Alright, lemme weigh in my two cents.


1: I don't recall what you guys are talking about with all of this "scam" talk. I do not have a Bitcoin wallet that has seen any use whatsoever, and with access to a computer which sees up to 5 users a day, any one could be responsible for any number of unfortunate and most likely misunderstood dealings during the past month.

2: The moment you private message someone demanding payment (in any form) to prevent personal information from "leaking", it's classic blackmail. Extortion by US Code. Any "opinions" or "views" or "two cents" about it means nothing. It's there in plain text.

3: That having been said, I'm not interested in Ironcross, his naughty PM, or any of the "dox" on the internet. If I am indeed who you claim I am, then you could have gotten much better pictures than what you found. At least ones where I'm wearing some Armani or something. =/

4: BigBitz did go with the whole "scam a scammer" mentality, but you know what? That's okay. He's taking care of the community, and that really showed me a lot. I swore up and down that he was going to keep the coins, but he didn't (it seems). He's just a shark businessman who buys at $10 below spot, but seems to really care about giving back to those in need. I have all of the respect in the world for him, and for BCB (even if we don't agree on a few things).


At any rate. Following this tale of woe and luls has become a 20 minute a day hobby at this point. As I said, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. The whole bytecoin, betcoin, batchcoin, hocus-pocus confuses me. I'm not tech savvy enough to get involved with bitchcoins or eye are see or whatever you crazy hipsters are doing.


I WILL however be -obscenely- glad to wait and watch to see where this goes. If I'm lucky, and it gets out of hand, I can start hurling defamation lawsuits at people and make some REAL money.  We have a lawyer specifically for business transactions. He's always looking for a payday.

Your friend and neighbor - "Kruniac"


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June 10, 2013, 10:37:12 PM
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Classic panic email

Love the change in tone once he saw the heat rising. He just took $5000 or more from a bunch of us, I'm not okay with letting that slide.

My local cops will probably have their interest piqued enough to follow through with his local police.
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Classic panic email

Love the change in tone once he saw the heat rising. He just took $5000 or more from a bunch of us, I'm not okay with letting that slide.

My local cops will probably have their interest piqued enough to follow through with his local police.

Indeed. It's fraud at the end of the day. You guys have his name, address, photo. Epic fail as a scammer.

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I've already filed with my local police department and the IC3.

I also plan on filing a civil action, I'll update this thread as things unfold.
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June 10, 2013, 10:50:59 PM
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dhenson

Love your video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgr3qEjbstM


Garrett, You sure you want this guy hot on your tail??

Good luck.
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June 10, 2013, 10:59:09 PM
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Classic panic email

Love the change in tone once he saw the heat rising. He just took $5000 or more from a bunch of us, I'm not okay with letting that slide.

My local cops will probably have their interest piqued enough to follow through with his local police.

Woah, woah, woah. There's no panic email. There's no panic message.

There's a little soap opera unfolding in my Inbox, and I was responding to a large portion of the messages, that's all. I'm not worried about anything. Cheesy

I'll post a screenshot later on, after I hit the mall. It's pretty hilarious stuff going on.



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June 10, 2013, 11:08:04 PM
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BigBlitz,

Both the send and receive address match and verify.  He has a stronger claim them the other.  I recommend you add him to the claim list and re allocate payout.

If you want to be totally transparent about this you should probably only pay out (varified) addresses send to a proven Kruniac address.

The others that send from Gox or Local bitcoin address (while probably verified) could be judgment call as how do you verify the screen shots were not tampered with.

I'll leave that up to you and John.


For verification of the payment from my localbitcoins ewallet, I'm willing to provide the login details for a trusted party to login and see the transaction was made.

I, too, am willing to provide credentials to a trusted party to verify the address provided by Kruniac and his confirmation of the payment and/or the payment itself.
There was no tampering with the screenshots.
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June 10, 2013, 11:34:23 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/LUAMe2q.png

This is what I was replying to.

You can imagine how lewls it is to wake up to this kind of thing going on in my Inbox.

Like I wake up, get some coffee, read the news, check my e-mail -BOOM.

Infinite rofls. Smiley



So no, I'm not worried. I'm just playing along. E-warriors "Dox"ing people? OH NOES HALP STAP PLS.

Police reports filed for...<something>? I'LL SUE U 4 DEFUMATIN MY USERNAME LEWL.


Honestly, I'm giving zero damns. I'm more concerned about someone more like myself getting my information and putting a bullet in my chest. Legitimate keyboard crusaders don't bother me at all. Smiley


*Edit* You should have read the previous messages that are now deleted. Ironcross claiming his account to be hacked, etc. "subdural hematoma" (which isn't even a thing) my ass.

What actually happened was.... 

Man tried to get paid off of all of this chaos.
Man got served with "You literally just attempted extortion."
Man pooped himself and backed off.
I lulled and shared the luls with my friends. Smiley

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I've already filed with my local police department and the IC3.

I also plan on filing a civil action, I'll update this thread as things unfold.

Thank you dhenson.
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June 11, 2013, 12:06:25 AM
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Anyone want to get in touch with KRUNIAC they can skype him at



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Anyone want to get in touch with KRUNIAC they can skype him at



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First off, as usual, you guys are trying way too hard. That username is obviously cut short in my taskbar.

Secondly, it's exhalebloodyair

Stop acting like badass haxor Sherlocks. You aren't. None of you. Smiley

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First off, as usual, you guys are trying way too hard. That username is obviously cut short in my taskbar.

Secondly, it's exhalebloodyair

Stop acting like badass haxor Sherlocks. You aren't. None of you. Smiley

I would agree that I don't have any special sleuthing skills.  But you do have to admit I found your name and home address pretty quickly.  I think it was about 3 minutes after sending you the bitcoin?

You on the other hand have to get the boob of the year award for lack covering your tracks as an online scammer.  I should thank you as if ever someone could actually get busted, it's going to be you.
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First off, as usual, you guys are trying way too hard. That username is obviously cut short in my taskbar.

Secondly, it's exhalebloodyair

Stop acting like badass haxor Sherlocks. You aren't. None of you. Smiley

I would agree that I don't have any special sleuthing skills.  But you do have to admit I found your name and home address pretty quickly.  I think it was about 3 minutes after sending you the bitcoin?

I wrote a pseudo long winded and kind nasty reply to this, but I've deleted it. That's no way to behave.

You did post information quickly, yes. You did. Smiley

I wonder if we can get this thread to 3000 Views. 

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I'm watching you .

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Hi there,

I actually already paid him 2.5 btc from the below address for 1 share


1Negb4xSk4HFF2dhRGstzh8b34x4s7wtnS
user name: Carleton

1.5 bitcoin straight from this addres, and another 1.0 from sealswithclubs which is harder to show the transaction.


I finished the transferring only on 6/9, but somehow his "trade with extreme caution" flag was not up when I received the offer


Anyhow, I really appreciate BigBliz's attempt to help the victims here.
Thanks again for putting things together.
Carleton is the owner of the address 1Negb4xSk4HFF2dhRGstzh8b34x4s7wtnS
H9RJU+23y2ZVXZTUlxeoRU/kQ23vtSgiDoCyr6JEVxIyZnHp4bWeAnP3abFxtIKbr2ixZAd6lERZ67wnhgjHCgc=


Btw, if BigBliz ever process to the point that covers my transaction, I'd like to have all (if any) bitcoin meant to be my claim transferred to BigBliz instead for helping out fellow community members.
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First off, as usual, you guys are trying way too hard. That username is obviously cut short in my taskbar.

Secondly, it's exhalebloodyair

Stop acting like badass haxor Sherlocks. You aren't. None of you. Smiley

If you want to play games, GARDNER, we can play games. But I don't think you're going to like what's going to happen. I'm sure all your neighbors at 805 W WASHINGTON ST UNIT will be thrilled to know they're living next door to a thief, but that's just the beginning *VBG*
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My local police have been notified. We shall see where this goes.

EDIT: I just received a call from the reporting deputy who stated they wouldn't be writing up a report, as this was more a civil breach of contract than a criminal theft. He said I could contact Garrott Gardner's local police as they would probably be more helpful.

I will testify in support of any criminal case against him, or join any civil case against him. We shall see what your police can decide to come up with. This is one of the problems about being an early adopter to a technology, there is no legal precedent yet.
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I've already filed with my local police department and the IC3.

I also plan on filing a civil action, I'll update this thread as things unfold.

+1 Keep us posted. Hope we get this guy! In Holland we have a special police department for Internet scams. I'll file as well. Of course, they can't do anything while he's in the US, but if he enters the EU at least he'll get flagged.
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Tip of my hat to BigBitz. He is doing some very charitable work for the community. He could have easily taken his 16btc and never said a word. That man has a damn fine character. We had become friends on OTC long before this, but he has earned my respect with this good deed. Kudos, BigBitz.
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address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         



guys...

For now this is the ONLY transactions I will review. People will have until 17th June to claim the transactions above - if you cannot prove with a signed message you own the address/transaction then we will review other avenues.

For now SIGNED/VERIFIED transactions will be paid out from the above addresses only. After 17th June I will review the additional claims, so far that is TheOrri who has proven his transactions.

For LocalBitcoins.com/MTGox Wallet transactions I suggest you ask JohnK [please CC myself in] to review your login - this can be any method John prefers, however, a screenshot will NOT be accepted. Sorry but anyone can doctor a screenshot.

Please appreciate returning the money to RIGHTFULLY scammed people is all I want to do. I don't have enough to give every single person claiming so I need to work with what information we have gathered above.

I see Kruanic returned to post some information. Kruanic I am sorry you so it fit to scam multiple people. In the interest of transparency you, obviously, did not scam me and I did cancel your wire. I find this to be wholly appropriate for the actions taken.

Currently out of the 12 Transactions above 7 have been "claimed" - As I said these will be the first to be reviewed.

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hwmax: Please PM JohnK, BCB and myself - agree a suitable method for JohnK to have the ability to "prove" your transaction is valid. This is something you and JohnK can work out.

TheOrri: You have proven a verified so any remaining funds after 17th June you will be the first in line.

ryanAC: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

dhenson: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

wo0x: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

Therealcos: You will be added to the back-up list along with TheOrri. again you have used MTGox so please PM JohnK, BCB, myself to attempt to prove the trade. Screenshots are not suitable.

Palantir13: You have been awarded a "blank" address TX as this matched your TXID Information.

tenecevad: You have been awarded a "blank" address TX as this matched your TXID Information.

Palantir13 / tenecevad: As you have the "BLANK" TXIDs and TheOrri has proven his TXID I will need to decide what to do. TheOrri has a fully valid claim and probably, so far, the most proven.

In an attempt to represent fairness I will ask that either of you "give up" your refund and pass it on to TheOrri and wait for June 17th at which point you will be on the list of additional refunds, or, alternatively the three of you agree to split the refund amount between 3.

this would be 1.764795552 / 3 and would mean a refund of 0.588265184BTC, at least.

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hwmax: Please PM JohnK, BCB and myself - agree a suitable method for JohnK to have the ability to "prove" your transaction is valid. This is something you and JohnK can work out.

TheOrri: You have proven a verified so any remaining funds after 17th June you will be the first in line.

ryanAC: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

dhenson: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

wo0x: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

Therealcos: You will be added to the back-up list along with TheOrri. again you have used MTGox so please PM JohnK, BCB, myself to attempt to prove the trade. Screenshots are not suitable.

Palantir13: You have been awarded a "blank" address TX as this matched your TXID Information.

tenecevad: You have been awarded a "blank" address TX as this matched your TXID Information.

Palantir13 / tenecevad: As you have the "BLANK" TXIDs and TheOrri has proven his TXID I will need to decide what to do. TheOrri has a fully valid claim and probably, so far, the most proven.

In an attempt to represent fairness I will ask that either of you "give up" your refund and pass it on to TheOrri and wait for June 17th at which point you will be on the list of additional refunds, or, alternatively the three of you agree to split the refund amount between 3.

this would be 1.764795552 / 3 and would mean a refund of 0.588265184BTC, at least.

I am not entirely sure what you mean by blank TXID. What is it that you would need from me?

I'm using the full Bitcoin client so I know that there are hidden change addresses. Do you need me to also sign with that address that was in the transaction?
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June 11, 2013, 09:23:17 AM
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hwmax: Please PM JohnK, BCB and myself - agree a suitable method for JohnK to have the ability to "prove" your transaction is valid. This is something you and JohnK can work out.

TheOrri: You have proven a verified so any remaining funds after 17th June you will be the first in line.

ryanAC: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

dhenson: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

wo0x: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

Therealcos: You will be added to the back-up list along with TheOrri. again you have used MTGox so please PM JohnK, BCB, myself to attempt to prove the trade. Screenshots are not suitable.

Palantir13: You have been awarded a "blank" address TX as this matched your TXID Information.

tenecevad: You have been awarded a "blank" address TX as this matched your TXID Information.

Palantir13 / tenecevad: As you have the "BLANK" TXIDs and TheOrri has proven his TXID I will need to decide what to do. TheOrri has a fully valid claim and probably, so far, the most proven.

In an attempt to represent fairness I will ask that either of you "give up" your refund and pass it on to TheOrri and wait for June 17th at which point you will be on the list of additional refunds, or, alternatively the three of you agree to split the refund amount between 3.

this would be 1.764795552 / 3 and would mean a refund of 0.588265184BTC, at least.

I am not entirely sure what you mean by blank TXID. What is it that you would need from me?

I'm using the full Bitcoin client so I know that there are hidden change addresses. Do you need me to also sign with that address that was in the transaction?
Palantir13 - I mean "blank" in that it was one of the transactions which did not have an associated address with it. I believe your TX amount came close to that.

Are you happy to split it also or would you prefer the whole amount?

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Palantir13 - I mean "blank" in that it was one of the transactions which did not have an associated address with it. I believe your TX amount came close to that.

Are you happy to split it also or would you prefer the whole amount?

This is my transaction as it's listed in my client: https://blockchain.info/tx/a8ebe244320415c6b1216ef473de41795e5240d97ea6375dd6f759450e520f18

My main address in the Bitcoin client is: 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

However it appears this change address was used in the transaction: 126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D

Message: This is Palantir13's address that was used to buy a ASICMiner share in a scam by Kruniac. Date is 6/11/2013.

Signature: G0e6IQ/ptG3lRWaiGuMUpGf0zAPFYUom4YxvS6ZTPf4bKgJsQC1dgOLLW2sX1sEMn6+JgCQKHLvzXJNsZgk9wts=

I would prefer the whole amount if at all possible, this is coming from the kindness of your heart though. Does that verify as showing my address sent to his address?
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Palantir13 - I mean "blank" in that it was one of the transactions which did not have an associated address with it. I believe your TX amount came close to that.

Are you happy to split it also or would you prefer the whole amount?

This is my transaction as it's listed in my client: https://blockchain.info/tx/a8ebe244320415c6b1216ef473de41795e5240d97ea6375dd6f759450e520f18

My main address in the Bitcoin client is: 17rfDxMZ5Yyui7Lf7msEScBo2AC6oE3vxR

However it appears this change address was used in the transaction: 126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D

Message: This is Palantir13's address that was used to buy a ASICMiner share in a scam by Kruniac. Date is 6/11/2013.

Signature: G0e6IQ/ptG3lRWaiGuMUpGf0zAPFYUom4YxvS6ZTPf4bKgJsQC1dgOLLW2sX1sEMn6+JgCQKHLvzXJNsZgk9wts=

I would prefer the whole amount if at all possible, this is coming from the kindness of your heart though. Does that verify as showing my address sent to his address?
Message successfully verified against Bitcoin Address: 126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D

Funds will be returned to: 126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D

you have decided to not split the value so I will refund the whole amount of 0.901361661.

Bitcoins sent! TXID: f568f265a10de0c4e2b0c10c0388f96d16622e4e93148f8f7b65c2252bfd3ad6

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address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

Palantir13 refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f568f265a10de0c4e2b0c10c0388f96d16622e4e93148f8f7b65c2252bfd3ad6

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address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

Palantir13 refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f568f265a10de0c4e2b0c10c0388f96d16622e4e93148f8f7b65c2252bfd3ad6

The transaction has confirmed. You are a gentleman and a scholar. If I wasn't a poor college student I would buy you many drinks. Once I get some more coin in my wallet, your generosity won't go unrewarded.

I await to see the outcome of the work being done to bring this scammer to justice. Since we had admission of guilt, evidence of video and text chat, IP logs etc, this could be a very interesting case (I imagine we could entice a lawyer interested in BTC to go pro-bono on this if it does turn into a civil case).
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First off, as usual, you guys are trying way too hard. That username is obviously cut short in my taskbar.

Secondly, it's exhalebloodyair

Stop acting like badass haxor Sherlocks. You aren't. None of you. Smiley

If you want to play games, GARDNER, we can play games. But I don't think you're going to like what's going to happen. I'm sure all your neighbors at 805 W WASHINGTON ST UNIT will be thrilled to know they're living next door to a thief, but that's just the beginning *VBG*

Actually, one of you should probably go to

805 W WASHINGTON ST UNIT (lewl?)

And knock on the door. Or something. Smiley

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Since we had admission of guilt


Nah. I have no idea who has been using this computer recently. And neither do you. And neither does any agency.

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evidence of video

If we're talking about the same thing here, I'm 99% sure it wasn't FRAPSed. I could be wrong.

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text chat

Blatent forgeries! XD

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IP logs


Must have been a roomy. Or a burgler. D: I'm scared now. D:

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this could be a very interesting case

Delusions of grandeur. How about: "Bitcoin community heavies get madbro, rage, and then settle down!"

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I imagine we could entice a lawyer interested in BTC to go pro-bono on this if it does turn into a civil case

This is the only thing I can agree with. I'm sure a community member who has passed the bar would be more than happy to consult/advocate. I'd like that, actually. Smiley

More to the point, I WANT a member of the community to examine this case extremely carefully, and then advise those involved on a course of action. Then have him/her post here about it. Then I'll promptly have a heart attack from laughing. Cheesy

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So Krunic..... since you have returned to rub it in these guys how much did you get away with?

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Delusions of grandeur. How about: "Bitcoin community heavies get madbro, rage, and then settle down!"

Who the hell watches videos of life changing experiences with baby sea lions, then steals thousands of dollars from normal people?
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So Krunic..... since you have returned to rub it in these guys how much did you get away with?

Nothing. Stealing is morally wrong. D:



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The same type of person who gets amusement (like TV show/movie/video game quality amusement) from having random people stalk him/her. Checking my Facebook. Slobbering over my "dox". Having fantasies of some kind of revenge or comeuppance.

God, I love every second of it. The more hope gets wrung out of you by reality, the higher I sit. The more you despair over what world you REALLY live in, the fresher my coffee tastes. Hope. Dreams. Life. As they vanish one by one, I get just a little bit more motivated.

That having been said, that baby sea lion was the most adorable thing ever. I have a fondness for sea creatures. Smiley

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In the interest of transparency you, obviously, did not scam me and I did cancel your wire.

Hey, if you want to cancel a wire on a "legit" transfer, that's on you. If you -really- care where the coins come from, then I respect your moral boundaries. Fortunately, there are others who do not have such high bars, and who are more than willing to buy coins, regardless of their origin. I really wish you were the latter. It would have saved a few people (recently) grief. Smiley

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So Krunic..... since you have returned to rub it in these guys how much did you get away with?

Nothing. Stealing is morally wrong. D:

Oh well. I hope you find great glory in your new found wealth.

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So Krunic..... since you have returned to rub it in these guys how much did you get away with?

Nothing. Stealing is morally wrong. D:

Oh well. I hope you find great glory in your new found wealth.

Playing some League Of Legends, actually. Rocking some Kassadin. Good business.

*Edit* Went 14/8/29. Just ARAM - not ranked. You guys should play. Smiley

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I commend all of you for trying to right this situation.  Best of luck. 
I feel like the accused person's attitude has contributed somewhat to the effort put forth here by the members of the community. 
I don't think they realize the power of the internet.  I wish I knew somene who lived in Seattle.

This is maybe the greatest thread I have read on the site.
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ryanAC: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.


Here's my claim for address 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK

Message: ryanAC is the owner of 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK
Sig: ICsW9eW73zrHa4BKX0T9BxsKQHq+eRPwgnLC9D0O3yq/6aRz0ZIJ7IdNTOtYjZWh3m9rY7VN6prhh2lMslMcEcg=

Thanks BigBitz!

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Recover Schedule

address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

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I don't think they realize the power of the internet.  I wish I knew somene who lived in Seattle.

Wat?

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I agree. Smiley

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Just put an add in Craigslist for someone in Seattle to go and confirm this guy's ID - pay in bitcoins, easy. Smiley

Local debt collection agencies love this sort of thing too.  They charge almost nothing to literally harrass people for months on end.  Calls day and night, following people, talking to their friends, etc.  Of course your new Craigslist contact might have other ideas too.

Either way, nice to see some effort being made!  Too many scammers get off scot-free.
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Just put an add in Craigslist for someone in Seattle to go and confirm this guy's ID - pay in bitcoins, easy. Smiley

Local debt collection agencies love this sort of thing too.  They charge almost nothing to literally harrass people for months on end.  Calls day and night, following people, talking to their friends, etc.  Of course your new Craigslist contact might have other ideas too.

Either way, nice to see some effort being made!  Too many scammers get off scot-free.

Oh God. PayPal had NCO calling me for like... a year. All because someone ripped me with a chargeback (this was about nine years ago, give or take). It was pretty damned annoying.

I uh. I'm not sure... why... we are talking about Seattle... O.O


By the way - if you guys haven't seen the movie Fearless Hyena - watch it. It's a pretty good (although cheesy) Jackie Chan movie from the 70s. Worst dubbing ever, cheesy Jackie Chan sequence stunts, etc. Just good stuff to pass time with. Smiley

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The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...

This is incorrect. While it is not considered currency according to FINCEN, it falls under digital goods. I am not a lawyer so one should be consulted and a class action suit would be advisable, along with criminal prosecution.

He is bluffing with the libel suits as this is simply a scare tactic, and secondly, if there is any truth in the claims (of being a scammer), then there are no grounds for a libel suit. Keep in mind that this person completely lacks empathy for other people, and thus has no remorse for anyone but themselves. At some point, when cornered, will request mercy and paint themselves as a victim.

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Just put an add in Craigslist for someone in Seattle to go and confirm this guy's ID - pay in bitcoins, easy. Smiley

Local debt collection agencies love this sort of thing too.  They charge almost nothing to literally harrass people for months on end.  Calls day and night, following people, talking to their friends, etc.  Of course your new Craigslist contact might have other ideas too.

Either way, nice to see some effort being made!  Too many scammers get off scot-free.

Oh God. PayPal had NCO calling me for like... a year. All because someone ripped me with a chargeback (this was about nine years ago, give or take). It was pretty damned annoying.

I uh. I'm not sure... why... we are talking about Seattle... O.O


By the way - if you guys haven't seen the movie Fearless Hyena - watch it. It's a pretty good (although cheesy) Jackie Chan movie from the 70s. Worst dubbing ever, cheesy Jackie Chan sequence stunts, etc. Just good stuff to pass time with. Smiley
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dhenson: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

This is a repost of my earlier signed message.  Is this not sufficient?

Transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6a4994b257f2881095be0d2162e757485ca87ecbd10d6dd74a312ea408f64fcd

Address:
1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK

Message:
dhenson is the owner of 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXdjvC4kYK  Thank you for returning my funds!!!

Signature:
G1ghiheVYg5272OL6QVuE1ffoLNGM+3ycHZggM79IcrWLP+NWpStZKF1vg9oepvGNKJa61GaDUaBAboArNrEEag=
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dhenson: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

This is a repost of my earlier signed message.  Is this not sufficient?

Transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6a4994b257f2881095be0d2162e757485ca87ecbd10d6dd74a312ea408f64fcd

Address:
1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK

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dhenson is the owner of 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXdjvC4kYK  Thank you for returning my funds!!!

Signature:
G1ghiheVYg5272OL6QVuE1ffoLNGM+3ycHZggM79IcrWLP+NWpStZKF1vg9oepvGNKJa61GaDUaBAboArNrEEag=
No. It does not verify...

"Error Verifying Message Invalid Bitcoin Address"

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No. It does not verify...

"Error Verifying Message Invalid Bitcoin Address"

Hmm... it verified for me using bitcoin-qt.  I'll have to check it out when I get home.

Should I have just signed the address?  I signed the entire message using the public/private key pair.  This is my first time using the sign message function.
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No. It does not verify...

"Error Verifying Message Invalid Bitcoin Address"

Hmm... it verified for me using bitcoin-qt.  I'll have to check it out when I get home.

Should I have just signed the address?  I signed the entire message using the public/private key pair.  This is my first time using the sign message function.
You should sign WITH the address any message you like Smiley

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19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           tencevad    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK                          2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

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ryanAC refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 89ce197077de6b4cdd94957775e5c1da28bd0a585307fdcaecfc8091ee089231
designdream refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 61c9f966f118b81beb29a461a874082f9e1cac04739a8796e157146933b496de
wo0x refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 491e241cfcb8d564ba179bc69e77053e3b7aa5842770453cb4aca730f5f14586

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BigBitz, you are just awesome. BIG UP!


Now let's see, what law will do with the long haired cell phone lady.
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BigBitz, you are just awesome. BIG UP!

Now let's see, what law will do with the long haired cell phone lady.

Yeah, been watching the forum for a while - BigBitz brings something new here - like his style.

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hwmax: Please PM JohnK, BCB and myself - agree a suitable method for JohnK to have the ability to "prove" your transaction is valid. This is something you and JohnK can work out.

TheOrri: You have proven a verified so any remaining funds after 17th June you will be the first in line.

ryanAC: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

dhenson: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

wo0x: Please sign a message for the address/transaction posted. You can PM JohnK, BCB, myself or publicly post.

Therealcos: You will be added to the back-up list along with TheOrri. again you have used MTGox so please PM JohnK, BCB, myself to attempt to prove the trade. Screenshots are not suitable.

Palantir13: You have been awarded a "blank" address TX as this matched your TXID Information.

tenecevad: You have been awarded a "blank" address TX as this matched your TXID Information.

Palantir13 / tenecevad: As you have the "BLANK" TXIDs and TheOrri has proven his TXID I will need to decide what to do. TheOrri has a fully valid claim and probably, so far, the most proven.

In an attempt to represent fairness I will ask that either of you "give up" your refund and pass it on to TheOrri and wait for June 17th at which point you will be on the list of additional refunds, or, alternatively the three of you agree to split the refund amount between 3.

this would be 1.764795552 / 3 and would mean a refund of 0.588265184BTC, at least.

Hey BigBitz, I'll give up my refund for now and pass it on to TheOrri.
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Just put an add in Craigslist for someone in Seattle to go and confirm this guy's ID - pay in bitcoins, easy. Smiley

Local debt collection agencies love this sort of thing too.  They charge almost nothing to literally harrass people for months on end.  Calls day and night, following people, talking to their friends, etc.  Of course your new Craigslist contact might have other ideas too.

Either way, nice to see some effort being made!  Too many scammers get off scot-free.

Oh God. PayPal had NCO calling me for like... a year. All because someone ripped me with a chargeback (this was about nine years ago, give or take). It was pretty damned annoying.

I uh. I'm not sure... why... we are talking about Seattle... O.O


By the way - if you guys haven't seen the movie Fearless Hyena - watch it. It's a pretty good (although cheesy) Jackie Chan movie from the 70s. Worst dubbing ever, cheesy Jackie Chan sequence stunts, etc. Just good stuff to pass time with. Smiley
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Can a mod dump the IPs of this PoS, please?

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June 12, 2013, 12:51:25 AM
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Can a mod dump the IPs of this PoS, please?

And then what? You'll cr4ck my b0x? Lewl.

Anyone and everyone who matters has my IP address. I'm sure BCB and BigBitz have it. Jwest is a creepy stalker (and looks like one), so I'm sure he grabbed it.

I'm just sitting back and waiting for:

1: Someone to matter.

2: Someone to make a mistake I can sue over.

3: More luls.

4: Getting 3 wins in a row to get promoted to Silver II in League. Almost there!

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June 12, 2013, 01:05:24 AM
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I live about 20 minutes from Hagerstown.
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I live about 20 minutes from Hagerstown.

Sweet! Where at?

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http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=21C10036907&loc=59&detailLoc=CC

Maybe his ex-wife is a nice person?
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A lot nicer than I am.

*Edit* You didn't answer me. Where are you from?

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Maybe his ex-wife is a nice person?

Careful guys...

Until a subpoena comes back from his ISP it is purely speculation that this is Garrott Gardner.  That won't happen until the MD police decide to take this seriously and issue the subpoena.  Yes Jwest verified that his picture matches the Skype conversation, but that isn't definitive.

At this point it is just an assumption that this is his identity.  

I am 100% committed to following this through no matter the effort, I just want to make sure people don't start getting stupid over it.
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June 12, 2013, 01:17:53 AM
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Maybe his ex-wife is a nice person?

Careful guys...

Until a subpoena comes back from his ISP it is purely speculation that this is Garrott Gardner.  That won't happen until the MD police decide to take this seriously and issue the subpoena.  Yes Jwest verified that his picture matches the Skype conversation, but that isn't definitive.

At this point it is just an assumption that this is his identity.  

I am 100% committed to following this through no matter the effort, I just want to make sure people don't start getting stupid over it.

You should probably listen to this, folks. Also, given the SLIM chance that a subpoena does get filed, when the ISP returns a name that isn't mine, or when any accusations are filled with so much reasonable doubt due to multiple people sharing a location, or when I'm not in Maryland any more....

Well, you get the point.

But go ahead. Continue to fap over my "dox". Make sure to spam people that may know me. Keep it up. Cheesy


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Where at? I'm having a party (birthday in two days) over there at West End tavern, if you'd like to come. Two beers on me. Smiley

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June 12, 2013, 01:19:49 AM
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Thurmont.  Wanna meet and trade some coins?
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When you verified, did you have an errant carriage return?  I've quoted the exact message that was signed.  This verifies for me...

Transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6a4994b257f2881095be0d2162e757485ca87ecbd10d6dd74a312ea408f64fcd

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1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK

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Thurmont.  Wanna meet and trade some coins?

Only if you bring cash. As in USD on your person. It'll be a pain to bring a laptop over there, but I can manage.

8 PM - West End tavern, June 13th. Make sure to bring a FAT wallet.

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Where at? I'm having a party (birthday in two days) over there at West End tavern, if you'd like to come. Two beers on me. Smiley

That might just be worth flying to MD for.
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Where at? I'm having a party (birthday in two days) over there at West End tavern, if you'd like to come. Two beers on me. Smiley

That might just be worth flying to MD for.

You look like the type that would do something like that. Do it. Cheesy Two free beers for anyone who claims to be a member of the Bitcoin community.

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Where at? I'm having a party (birthday in two days) over there at West End tavern, if you'd like to come. Two beers on me. Smiley

That might just be worth flying to MD for.

If you have a badge, a gun, and an arrest warrant...

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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Where at? I'm having a party (birthday in two days) over there at West End tavern, if you'd like to come. Two beers on me. Smiley

That might just be worth flying to MD for.

If you have a badge, a gun, and an arrest warrant...

Nononono. He doesn't need any of that. Let him come as is. A badass. I want to see a badass show up at my little party in the West End. ^__^

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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.

I sent the funds back to you after determining that this chap's not transferring any shares to you.

No, I ACTUALLY DID transfer the share via Friedcat. In fact, he was the only person I transferred shares to. Why?

He used escrow Smiley

You can check the PM records (if you can do that, John). I sent two PMs to Friedcat.

One was me transferring the share to Methax.

The other was me trying to confirm the share to Friedcat.

Regardless of what happened with any other transactions, it sounds like Friedcat made a transfer based on someone else's message (jwest?). I transferred ownership of that share on June 05, 2013, at 08:16:26 AM.


No other PMs were sent to Friedcat involving a transfer.

Methax is the only person authorized by me to own that share. Period. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

At this point, I'm not even interested in the escrow. It's the principle Tongue

Methax was the only person to demand escrow. I accepted. I legitimately transferred ownership of the share BECAUSE he demanded escrow.

I'm not the admin here. Anyway, I think I have sufficient proof that the share isn't transferred to him, and that you're trying to sell the poor share multiple times, so the funds is refunded to the buyer.

I'll let this go. I made my money.

I will say this - I DID transfer the share to methax before I made any deals with anyone else.

I DO have screenshots to prove this.

I transferred it because HE USED ESCROW, and I COULD NOT get funds without LEGITIMATELY transferring it.

That's all.
so i ask again, did you scam me?  or will i get an ASICMiner share as agreed?  or will I get my 2.2BTC back?
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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.

I sent the funds back to you after determining that this chap's not transferring any shares to you.

No, I ACTUALLY DID transfer the share via Friedcat. In fact, he was the only person I transferred shares to. Why?

He used escrow Smiley

You can check the PM records (if you can do that, John). I sent two PMs to Friedcat.

One was me transferring the share to Methax.

The other was me trying to confirm the share to Friedcat.

Regardless of what happened with any other transactions, it sounds like Friedcat made a transfer based on someone else's message (jwest?). I transferred ownership of that share on June 05, 2013, at 08:16:26 AM.


No other PMs were sent to Friedcat involving a transfer.

Methax is the only person authorized by me to own that share. Period. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

At this point, I'm not even interested in the escrow. It's the principle Tongue

Methax was the only person to demand escrow. I accepted. I legitimately transferred ownership of the share BECAUSE he demanded escrow.

I'm not the admin here. Anyway, I think I have sufficient proof that the share isn't transferred to him, and that you're trying to sell the poor share multiple times, so the funds is refunded to the buyer.

I'll let this go. I made my money.

I will say this - I DID transfer the share to methax before I made any deals with anyone else.

I DO have screenshots to prove this.

I transferred it because HE USED ESCROW, and I COULD NOT get funds without LEGITIMATELY transferring it.

That's all.
so i ask again, did you scam me?  or will i get an ASICMiner share as agreed?  or will I get my 2.2BTC back?

You literally just PMed me that, and I'm guessing you didn't like the answer. And like anyone stuck in fantasyland, you keep asking the same question until you get an answer you can live with.

You aren't getting a share. Methax is the only person SUPPOSED to own that share. Due to Friedcat making a clerical error, I believe Jwest owns it. Talk to him about it.

Talk to BigBitz about getting your 2.2 BTC back. He stole ~16 coins from me Robin Hood style. Smiley


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June 12, 2013, 02:25:25 AM
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Careful guys...

Until a subpoena comes back from his ISP it is purely speculation that this is Garrott Gardner.  That won't happen until the MD police decide to take this seriously and issue the subpoena.  Yes Jwest verified that his picture matches the Skype conversation, but that isn't definitive.

At this point it is just an assumption that this is his identity.  

I am 100% committed to following this through no matter the effort, I just want to make sure people don't start getting stupid over it.

Which is exactly why I asked for a dump of his/her IP addresses, cause I'm begining to think this fucker has just found Gardner on google, looking for the right profile (role playing, japanese culture, computers, etc.) and borrowed his identity.

Gardner appears to be a very active mmorpg gamer. This guy sounds fake when talking about LoL.

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Careful guys...

Until a subpoena comes back from his ISP it is purely speculation that this is Garrott Gardner.  That won't happen until the MD police decide to take this seriously and issue the subpoena.  Yes Jwest verified that his picture matches the Skype conversation, but that isn't definitive.

At this point it is just an assumption that this is his identity.  

I am 100% committed to following this through no matter the effort, I just want to make sure people don't start getting stupid over it.

Which is exactly why I asked for a dump of his/her IP addresses, cause I'm begining to think this fucker has just found Gardner on google, looking for the right profile (role playing, japanese culture, computers, etc.) and borrowed his identity.

Gardner appears to be a very active mmorpg gamer. This guy sounds fake when talking about LoL.

I just ruined 5-1-31 ARAM Ryze. Lulwut.

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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.

I sent the funds back to you after determining that this chap's not transferring any shares to you.

No, I ACTUALLY DID transfer the share via Friedcat. In fact, he was the only person I transferred shares to. Why?

He used escrow Smiley

You can check the PM records (if you can do that, John). I sent two PMs to Friedcat.

One was me transferring the share to Methax.

The other was me trying to confirm the share to Friedcat.

Regardless of what happened with any other transactions, it sounds like Friedcat made a transfer based on someone else's message (jwest?). I transferred ownership of that share on June 05, 2013, at 08:16:26 AM.


No other PMs were sent to Friedcat involving a transfer.

Methax is the only person authorized by me to own that share. Period. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

At this point, I'm not even interested in the escrow. It's the principle Tongue

Methax was the only person to demand escrow. I accepted. I legitimately transferred ownership of the share BECAUSE he demanded escrow.

I'm not the admin here. Anyway, I think I have sufficient proof that the share isn't transferred to him, and that you're trying to sell the poor share multiple times, so the funds is refunded to the buyer.

I'll let this go. I made my money.

I will say this - I DID transfer the share to methax before I made any deals with anyone else.

I DO have screenshots to prove this.

I transferred it because HE USED ESCROW, and I COULD NOT get funds without LEGITIMATELY transferring it.

That's all.
so i ask again, did you scam me?  or will i get an ASICMiner share as agreed?  or will I get my 2.2BTC back?

You literally just PMed me that, and I'm guessing you didn't like the answer. And like anyone stuck in fantasyland, you keep asking the same question until you get an answer you can live with.

You aren't getting a share. Methax is the only person SUPPOSED to own that share. Due to Friedcat making a clerical error, I believe Jwest owns it. Talk to him about it.

Talk to BigBitz about getting your 2.2 BTC back. He stole ~16 coins from me Robin Hood style. Smiley


yeah you are correct i didnt like the answer cause you didnt give me an answer in my PM.  I just like a straight answer when I ask a question.  so now that you told me (and everyone else) specifically that you have taken several people's BTC with no plans of refunding and no plans of delivering the product you "sold" then I will join everyone else in labeling you a scammer.  obviously it doesnt mean anything to you since you continue to follow and post on here, and apparently enjoy all the attention that I guess you never received from your family or others in RL.  good luck with Karma buddy, cause she's a major bitch.
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It seems he just send friedcat his share transfer multiple times and looking from your chat it seemed like he hoped the shares were sent to me since I used escrow and he wouldn't get his 2.45BTC from me If he didn't actually transfer it. But based on his multiple sent requests freidcat had transfer to someone else instead of me. So someone who bought from him wihtout escrow got the shares and I didn't, so no money from escrow from him. and someone ended up not getting scammed.

I sent the funds back to you after determining that this chap's not transferring any shares to you.

No, I ACTUALLY DID transfer the share via Friedcat. In fact, he was the only person I transferred shares to. Why?

He used escrow Smiley

You can check the PM records (if you can do that, John). I sent two PMs to Friedcat.

One was me transferring the share to Methax.

The other was me trying to confirm the share to Friedcat.

Regardless of what happened with any other transactions, it sounds like Friedcat made a transfer based on someone else's message (jwest?). I transferred ownership of that share on June 05, 2013, at 08:16:26 AM.


No other PMs were sent to Friedcat involving a transfer.

Methax is the only person authorized by me to own that share. Period. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

At this point, I'm not even interested in the escrow. It's the principle Tongue

Methax was the only person to demand escrow. I accepted. I legitimately transferred ownership of the share BECAUSE he demanded escrow.

I'm not the admin here. Anyway, I think I have sufficient proof that the share isn't transferred to him, and that you're trying to sell the poor share multiple times, so the funds is refunded to the buyer.

I'll let this go. I made my money.

I will say this - I DID transfer the share to methax before I made any deals with anyone else.

I DO have screenshots to prove this.

I transferred it because HE USED ESCROW, and I COULD NOT get funds without LEGITIMATELY transferring it.

That's all.
so i ask again, did you scam me?  or will i get an ASICMiner share as agreed?  or will I get my 2.2BTC back?

You literally just PMed me that, and I'm guessing you didn't like the answer. And like anyone stuck in fantasyland, you keep asking the same question until you get an answer you can live with.

You aren't getting a share. Methax is the only person SUPPOSED to own that share. Due to Friedcat making a clerical error, I believe Jwest owns it. Talk to him about it.

Talk to BigBitz about getting your 2.2 BTC back. He stole ~16 coins from me Robin Hood style. Smiley


yeah you are correct i didnt like the answer cause you didnt give me an answer in my PM.  I just like a straight answer when I ask a question.  so now that you told me (and everyone else) specifically that you have taken several people's BTC with no plans of refunding and no plans of delivering the product you "sold" then I will join everyone else in labeling you a scammer.  obviously it doesnt mean anything to you since you continue to follow and post on here, and apparently enjoy all the attention that I guess you never received from your family or others in RL.  good luck with Karma buddy, cause she's a major bitch.

1: I didn't admit to anything at all. Ever. Someone must have hacked my computer/I have a subdural hematoma/my dog ate it/etc.

2: You're right. It means zero to me.

3: You're wrong, I got attention from my family and others "in RL".

4: Umad. Lewl. Random outbursts about people's family giving them attention is a sure sign of internet rage. I'm surprised someone hasn't called me a "fat 12 year old". XD

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I was able to confirm directly with Bank of America today that an active bank account exists for Gardner with a statement address in Hagerstown, MD 21740 and the last four digits of the account number are 3662. I was able to confirm information Kruniac has provided in the past with Bank of America file information.

So unless Kruniac committed identity theft to open the Bank of America account or stole the bank account, I think this is strong evidence that Kruniac is Garrott Gardner and currently resides in Maryland.

If anyone has any additional identifying information about him, please let me know. I have hired a company to track him down for legal reasons. I intend to confront him in person.

I will provide a 2 BTC reward to anyone who provides me his current residential or work address and definitive identifying photo or video of him entering or leaving this building (from a public right of way, capture both the entire front of the residence and any markings if possible, as well as his face clearly visible).
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I was able to confirm directly with Bank of America today that an active bank account exists for Gardner with a statement address in Hagerstown, MD 21740 and the last four digits of the account number are 3662. I was able to confirm information Kruniac has provided in the past with Bank of America file information.

So unless Kruniac committed identity theft to open the Bank of America account or stole the bank account, I think this is strong evidence that Kruniac is Garrott Gardner and currently resides in Maryland.

If anyone has any additional identifying information about him, please let me know. I have hired a company to track him down for legal reasons. I intend to confront him in person.

I told you. 8 PM, West End Tavern, June 13th. Two free beers.

You're incorrect about the bank information, but I'm not going to get into an argument about it. There's so much murk around your facts that I don't need to lie, cover up, or otherwise do much of anything. Smiley

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Ooooo. Getting personal. This is getting more exciting! Cheesy

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I was able to confirm directly with Bank of America today that an active bank account exists for Gardner with a statement address in Hagerstown, MD 21740 and the last four digits of the account number are 3662. I was able to confirm information Kruniac has provided in the past with Bank of America file information.

So unless Kruniac committed identity theft to open the Bank of America account or stole the bank account, I think this is strong evidence that Kruniac is Garrott Gardner and currently resides in Maryland.

If anyone has any additional identifying information about him, please let me know. I have hired a company to track him down for legal reasons. I intend to confront him in person.

I told you. 8 PM, West End Tavern, June 13th. Two free beers.

You're incorrect about the bank information, but I'm not going to get into an argument about it. There's so much murk around your facts that I don't need to lie, cover up, or otherwise do much of anything. Smiley

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I will provide a 2 BTC reward to anyone who provides me his current residential or work address and definitive identifying photography of him entering or leaving this building.

Ooooo. Getting personal. This is getting more exciting! Cheesy

Alright, we'll let people see for themselves then. Smiley

Anyone with a Bank of America account can also confirm his information using the add a transfer recipient tool. Note that if you enter an incorrect ZIP code, the tool will return an error.



Bank of America Account Number: 446024583662
Routing Number: 052001633
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I was able to confirm directly with Bank of America today that an active bank account exists for Gardner with a statement address in Hagerstown, MD 21740 and the last four digits of the account number are 3662. I was able to confirm information Kruniac has provided in the past with Bank of America file information.

So unless Kruniac committed identity theft to open the Bank of America account or stole the bank account, I think this is strong evidence that Kruniac is Garrott Gardner and currently resides in Maryland.

If anyone has any additional identifying information about him, please let me know. I have hired a company to track him down for legal reasons. I intend to confront him in person.

I told you. 8 PM, West End Tavern, June 13th. Two free beers.

You're incorrect about the bank information, but I'm not going to get into an argument about it. There's so much murk around your facts that I don't need to lie, cover up, or otherwise do much of anything. Smiley

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I will provide a 2 BTC reward to anyone who provides me his current residential or work address and definitive identifying photography of him entering or leaving this building.

Ooooo. Getting personal. This is getting more exciting! Cheesy

Is it West End Pub at 5 Nottingham Road?
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I was able to confirm directly with Bank of America today that an active bank account exists for Gardner with a statement address in Hagerstown, MD 21740 and the last four digits of the account number are 3662. I was able to confirm information Kruniac has provided in the past with Bank of America file information.

So unless Kruniac committed identity theft to open the Bank of America account or stole the bank account, I think this is strong evidence that Kruniac is Garrott Gardner and currently resides in Maryland.

If anyone has any additional identifying information about him, please let me know. I have hired a company to track him down for legal reasons. I intend to confront him in person.

I told you. 8 PM, West End Tavern, June 13th. Two free beers.

You're incorrect about the bank information, but I'm not going to get into an argument about it. There's so much murk around your facts that I don't need to lie, cover up, or otherwise do much of anything. Smiley

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Ooooo. Getting personal. This is getting more exciting! Cheesy

Is it West End Pub at 5 Nottingham Road?

Kruniac, I'm concerned I'm going to show up at the bar on Thursday and you won't be there, and I'll have wasted my time. I don't want to play games, so why don't you man up and give me your home address? I'll send someone over there to verify it's you and then we'll chat in person soon. I just want to talk. I won't hurt you, I promise. Looking forward to meeting you dude!
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I was able to confirm directly with Bank of America today that an active bank account exists for Gardner with a statement address in Hagerstown, MD 21740 and the last four digits of the account number are 3662. I was able to confirm information Kruniac has provided in the past with Bank of America file information.

So unless Kruniac committed identity theft to open the Bank of America account or stole the bank account, I think this is strong evidence that Kruniac is Garrott Gardner and currently resides in Maryland.

If anyone has any additional identifying information about him, please let me know. I have hired a company to track him down for legal reasons. I intend to confront him in person.

I told you. 8 PM, West End Tavern, June 13th. Two free beers.

You're incorrect about the bank information, but I'm not going to get into an argument about it. There's so much murk around your facts that I don't need to lie, cover up, or otherwise do much of anything. Smiley

It's like listening to a baby try to pronounce something. You know they are trying to say it, they just don't get it QUITE right.


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I will provide a 2 BTC reward to anyone who provides me his current residential or work address and definitive identifying photography of him entering or leaving this building.

Ooooo. Getting personal. This is getting more exciting! Cheesy

Is it West End Pub at 5 Nottingham Road?

Kruniac, I'm concerned I'm going to show up at the bar on Thursday and you won't be there, and I'll have wasted my time. I don't want to play games, so why don't you man up and give me your home address? I'll send someone over there to verify it's you and then we'll chat in person soon. I just want to talk. I won't hurt you, I promise. Looking forward to meeting you dude!

Same old internet story. Someone talks HUGE, and doesn't deliver. Another Battle.Net "Hitman". Another "MY DAD OWNS THE SERVER AND HE'LL BAN YOU". Another "big time drug dealer" with nothing to show.

I've been dealing with kids who behave that way for over thirteen years. Now it's just grown men doing the same. Doesn't surprise me, just continues to make me lul. Either show up at the joint, and get told to have sexual relations with yourself in person, or continue to Sherlock on the interwebs, and throw money into super sleuthing. It doesn't bother me either way.

Frankly, the reason I'm comfortable with disclosing where I'll be when - this forum serves as adequate background for any crime that may be committed against my person. And while people might not care too much about bitcoins getting thrown around, something happening to a person is another matter.

I can basically sum it up like this:

I have legal insulation.
I have cash to party with.
I have amazing hair.
I have a Maryland carry permit.
I never travel dirty.
I give no shits.

Let's make history, or keep raising the post count in this thread. Either way, I'm satisfied.

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Same old internet story. Someone talks HUGE, and doesn't deliver. Another Battle.Net "Hitman". Another "MY DAD OWNS THE SERVER AND HE'LL BAN YOU". Another "big time drug dealer" with nothing to show.

I've been dealing with kids who behave that way for over thirteen years. Now it's just grown men doing the same. Doesn't surprise me, just continues to make me lul.

Have you ever stolen $5000 dollars before? Pushing buttons with people's paychecks is a bit different than stealing loot in Diablo.
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Same old internet story. Someone talks HUGE, and doesn't deliver. Another Battle.Net "Hitman". Another "MY DAD OWNS THE SERVER AND HE'LL BAN YOU". Another "big time drug dealer" with nothing to show.

I've been dealing with kids who behave that way for over thirteen years. Now it's just grown men doing the same. Doesn't surprise me, just continues to make me lul.

Have you ever stolen $5000 dollars before? Pushing buttons with people's paychecks is a bit different than stealing loot in Diablo.

I haven't ever stolen any money from anyone. Certainly not $5000. That's crazy talk!

And the point I was trying to illustrate is that it's the same "excuses". I provide a place to have a meeting, they realize that shit is about to get heavy, and they say "NO GIMME UR HOME ADDRESS".

Why? So you can firebomb my house? Throw bricks at the windows? I have room mates. I can't have that going on. Despite what you folks may think of my ethics - I keep other people out of my business. If you want to see me about something, I've given a location that I'll be at in about 29 hours. If that isn't enough for you, then stay behind the keyboard where it's mellow.

The more I think of it, the more I'm getting bored with this thread, and this game. The only outcomes to this are pretty standard:

1: I use some foul language towards whoever actually shows up, then laugh it off.
2: No one shows up at the appointed time/place.
3: I get injured/killed by someone with some manliness, who then gets arrested.
4: In genuine fear for my life, I am forced to defend myself with lethal force. I am arrested and later cleared.
5: In genuine fear for my life, I am forced to defend myself with lethal force. I am arrested and later convicted.
6: A combination of the above.

It's just running out of ways to be funny.

I mean, I have no connection to any unfortunate incidents that have occurred. I have no bitcoin wallet. I didn't receive any legal tender from anyone involved in this thread.

I dunno. It's getting to the point where I might just get on my alternate username and do some legitimate business. All of the intelligent people have moved on, and the more entertaining people don't have stones. =/

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Recover Schedule

address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

Blank. I am attributing this to tencevad           TheOrri    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK          finlof             2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

Palantir13 refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f568f265a10de0c4e2b0c10c0388f96d16622e4e93148f8f7b65c2252bfd3ad6
ryanAC refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 89ce197077de6b4cdd94957775e5c1da28bd0a585307fdcaecfc8091ee089231
designdream refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 61c9f966f118b81beb29a461a874082f9e1cac04739a8796e157146933b496de
wo0x refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 491e241cfcb8d564ba179bc69e77053e3b7aa5842770453cb4aca730f5f14586
dhenson refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 4fbb26cbe7ced9c50157714a900c38fdb7c514f5a453d2503db592b85c5fde3d


one of the unknown BTC addresses has come forward and provided the transaction ID -- This was finlof who is now in the table above. finlof please sign a message with your address to confirm!

tenecvad has very kindly given up his refund for now so can TheOrri please provide your BTC Address for refund


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TheFuneral.

Carleton.

I believe they also have complaints. Particularly Carleton. I believe his complaint stems from two days ago, give or take.

...After we were well into this thread. Some people don't read the forums. =/

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My address for the refund is: 1mKXkntCBzuLEvNoencLTqT8cVZDjrgVg

A TON of respect for you, and you inspire me to the same for others in the future!
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TheFuneral.

Carleton.

I believe they also have complaints. Particularly Carleton. I believe his complaint stems from two days ago, give or take.

...After we were well into this thread. Some people don't read the forums. =/
wanna throw some extra bitcoin into the mix so I can refund more people you, oh didn't steal, erm, procured from?

TheOrri refund inbound.

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address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

1mKXkntCBzuLEvNoencLTqT8cVZDjrgVg           TheOrri    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK          finlof             2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

Palantir13 refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f568f265a10de0c4e2b0c10c0388f96d16622e4e93148f8f7b65c2252bfd3ad6
ryanAC refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 89ce197077de6b4cdd94957775e5c1da28bd0a585307fdcaecfc8091ee089231
designdream refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 61c9f966f118b81beb29a461a874082f9e1cac04739a8796e157146933b496de
wo0x refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 491e241cfcb8d564ba179bc69e77053e3b7aa5842770453cb4aca730f5f14586
dhenson refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 4fbb26cbe7ced9c50157714a900c38fdb7c514f5a453d2503db592b85c5fde3d
TheOrri refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 9508f058aa9292eb6e418744dc893fa23a2bb94cb097ddf7061929d4ae512386

one of the unknown BTC addresses has come forward and provided the transaction ID -- This was finlof who is now in the table above. finlof please sign a message with your address to confirm!

tenecvad has very kindly given up his refund for now so can TheOrri please provide your BTC Address for refund


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June 12, 2013, 08:29:44 AM
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TheFuneral.

Carleton.

I believe they also have complaints. Particularly Carleton. I believe his complaint stems from two days ago, give or take.

...After we were well into this thread. Some people don't read the forums. =/
wanna throw some extra bitcoin into the mix so I can refund more people you, oh didn't steal, erm, procured from?

TheOrri refund inbound.

You got more than enough out of me, Bitz. More than enough. Robin Hood. Tongue

Besides, I don't even have a wallet. This bitecoin thing is way over my head. Criptologic number current see hash brown generation? Sounds like a bunch of witchcraft. I'll stick to USD, thank you.

Anyway, maybe send them a PM, get their address.

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Maybe PM Menig as well. Poor guy just asked me about Friedcat and a transfer.

He's a little late reading this thread. I'd direct him towards Friedcat, but I'm tired of this entire subject.

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Damn Kruanic.

Just how much Bitcoin did you escape with?  Shocked

I still can't believe you have the nuts to come in and throw it in people's faces  Roll Eyes

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Damn Kruanic.

Just how much Bitcoin did you escape with?  Shocked

I still can't believe you have the nuts to come in and throw it in people's faces  Roll Eyes

1: You're spelling my name wrong on purpose, ass. -.-

2: I didn't "escape" with anything. What's a Bitcoin?

3: I'm not throwing anything. Menig may need your assistance, that's all I'm saying. Just trying to be at least slightly positive, despite being cancerous. Smiley

I'd guess (just guess) that there are about eighteen or nineteen people who should read this thread. Just off the top of my head.

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Damn Kruanic.

Just how much Bitcoin did you escape with?  Shocked

I still can't believe you have the nuts to come in and throw it in people's faces  Roll Eyes

1: You're spelling my name wrong on purpose, ass. -.-

2: I didn't "escape" with anything. What's a Bitcoin?

3: I'm not throwing anything. Menig may need your assistance, that's all I'm saying. Just trying to be at least slightly positive, despite being cancerous. Smiley

I'd guess (just guess) that there are about eighteen or nineteen people who should read this thread. Just off the top of my head.
Ah, so I am. Kruniac then......

so you've got away with around 55BTC then [including designdream] minus the 16.4 you sent me leaves you with probably, at least, 35-40BTC.

I shall do what I can to refund people.

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so iam scammed to with this shit AsicMiners-Share... i paid him 2 BTC after he forwared me an Message that he send a Transfer-PM to friedcat:

i paid on 05.06. 2 BTC to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz.

hier is a copy of this from my Bitcoin.de-Account:

"Menge:    2 BTC
Adresse:    14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
Transaktion-ID:    06b4c96ae20a4e97d106d43d10484a173d0a8f9a10e3bbe323058b9f3353f48e
Überwiesen am:    5. Juni 2013 09:30:50 CEST"

i was stupid enought to send the 2BTC without confirmation of the deal from friedcat.... hmpf....

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so iam scammed to with this shit AsicMiners-Share... i paid him 2 BTC after he forwared me an Message that he send a Transfer-PM to friedcat:

i paid on 05.06. 2 BTC to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz.

hier is a copy of this from my Bitcoin.de-Account:

"Menge:    2 BTC
Adresse:    14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
Transaktion-ID:    06b4c96ae20a4e97d106d43d10484a173d0a8f9a10e3bbe323058b9f3353f48e
Überwiesen am:    5. Juni 2013 09:30:50 CEST"

i was stupid enought to send the 2BTC without confirmation of the deal from friedcat.... hmpf....

Menig
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from which address did you send the bitcoin?

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so iam scammed to with this shit AsicMiners-Share... i paid him 2 BTC after he forwared me an Message that he send a Transfer-PM to friedcat:

i paid on 05.06. 2 BTC to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz.

hier is a copy of this from my Bitcoin.de-Account:

"Menge:    2 BTC
Adresse:    14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
Transaktion-ID:    06b4c96ae20a4e97d106d43d10484a173d0a8f9a10e3bbe323058b9f3353f48e
Überwiesen am:    5. Juni 2013 09:30:50 CEST"

i was stupid enought to send the 2BTC without confirmation of the deal from friedcat.... hmpf....

Menig
Menig,

from which address did you send the bitcoin?

Hello BigBitz,

i send the Bitcoins from Bitcoin.de - they used the sending-Adress 18XvthXwC9KUKdC69oPhrPMYF5taeWk3nr (they rnd generated Adresses for each time when a member sends money somewhere)
me static Adress for getting payments is 14S2wx2zzj7aJz4gpJSvAXSAvYr9vyNBYi .

https://blockchain.info/de/address/14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz - 2013-06-05 07:30:51 - https://blockchain.info/de/tx/06b4c96ae20a4e97d106d43d10484a173d0a8f9a10e3bbe323058b9f3353f48e

best Regards
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so iam scammed to with this shit AsicMiners-Share... i paid him 2 BTC after he forwared me an Message that he send a Transfer-PM to friedcat:

i paid on 05.06. 2 BTC to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz.

hier is a copy of this from my Bitcoin.de-Account:

"Menge:    2 BTC
Adresse:    14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
Transaktion-ID:    06b4c96ae20a4e97d106d43d10484a173d0a8f9a10e3bbe323058b9f3353f48e
Überwiesen am:    5. Juni 2013 09:30:50 CEST"

i was stupid enought to send the 2BTC without confirmation of the deal from friedcat.... hmpf....

Menig
Menig,

from which address did you send the bitcoin?

Hello BigBitz,

i send the Bitcoins from Bitcoin.de - they used the sending-Adress 18XvthXwC9KUKdC69oPhrPMYF5taeWk3nr (they rnd generated Adresses for each time when a member sends money somewhere)
me static Adress for getting payments is 14S2wx2zzj7aJz4gpJSvAXSAvYr9vyNBYi .

https://blockchain.info/de/address/14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz - 2013-06-05 07:30:51 - https://blockchain.info/de/tx/06b4c96ae20a4e97d106d43d10484a173d0a8f9a10e3bbe323058b9f3353f48e

best Regards
Menig
Menig sorry but unfortunately I cannot have a method of verifying you own that address as it's a randomly generated address I guess you cannot sign it nor accecpt payment back to that address?


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so iam scammed to with this shit AsicMiners-Share... i paid him 2 BTC after he forwared me an Message that he send a Transfer-PM to friedcat:

i paid on 05.06. 2 BTC to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz.

hier is a copy of this from my Bitcoin.de-Account:

"Menge:    2 BTC
Adresse:    14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
Transaktion-ID:    06b4c96ae20a4e97d106d43d10484a173d0a8f9a10e3bbe323058b9f3353f48e
Überwiesen am:    5. Juni 2013 09:30:50 CEST"

i was stupid enought to send the 2BTC without confirmation of the deal from friedcat.... hmpf....

Menig
Menig,

from which address did you send the bitcoin?

Hello BigBitz,

i send the Bitcoins from Bitcoin.de - they used the sending-Adress 18XvthXwC9KUKdC69oPhrPMYF5taeWk3nr (they rnd generated Adresses for each time when a member sends money somewhere)
me static Adress for getting payments is 14S2wx2zzj7aJz4gpJSvAXSAvYr9vyNBYi .

https://blockchain.info/de/address/14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz - 2013-06-05 07:30:51 - https://blockchain.info/de/tx/06b4c96ae20a4e97d106d43d10484a173d0a8f9a10e3bbe323058b9f3353f48e

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Menig sorry but unfortunately I cannot have a method of verifying you own that address as it's a randomly generated address I guess you cannot sign it nor accecpt payment back to that address?



Menig, I'll see about getting you some BTC. Just give me a while. If BigBitz can't help you, that is.

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June 12, 2013, 11:34:43 AM
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Kruniac?

I'm confused now...

You're offering to refund people?

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June 12, 2013, 12:10:08 PM
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Kruniac?

I'm confused now...

You're offering to refund people?

i will believe that only after receiving a refund... Wink
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June 12, 2013, 12:30:58 PM
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Kruniac?

I'm confused now...

You're offering to refund people?

I don't want to get into my reasons. And no one said it would be soon.

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i will believe that only after receiving a refund...

I'll see about helping you recover some of your misplaced coins in a paycheck or two.


I really need to stop reading my PMs. =/

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June 12, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
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I am confused too, supposedly you scam bitcoins and do legitimate trades to cash out.

But now you are sayiing perchance in the future you will mail-in rebate someone 2 BTC.

are you planning to .... procure more bitcoins to fund this charity?
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Recover Schedule

address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

1mKXkntCBzuLEvNoencLTqT8cVZDjrgVg           TheOrri    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK          finlof             2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

Palantir13 refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f568f265a10de0c4e2b0c10c0388f96d16622e4e93148f8f7b65c2252bfd3ad6
ryanAC refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 89ce197077de6b4cdd94957775e5c1da28bd0a585307fdcaecfc8091ee089231
designdream refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 61c9f966f118b81beb29a461a874082f9e1cac04739a8796e157146933b496de
wo0x refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 491e241cfcb8d564ba179bc69e77053e3b7aa5842770453cb4aca730f5f14586
dhenson refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 4fbb26cbe7ced9c50157714a900c38fdb7c514f5a453d2503db592b85c5fde3d
TheOrri refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 9508f058aa9292eb6e418744dc893fa23a2bb94cb097ddf7061929d4ae512386
finlof refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 76308081a97400985ce42fcdaff6360cdeb6ce6dac9da9e77e16e733f313146b

tenecvad has very kindly given up his refund for now so this was passed to TheOrri


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June 12, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
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thx BigBitz.  krustiac - GL with the mob.  I'm outta this thread cause aint nobody got time for that.
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Palantir13 refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f568f265a10de0c4e2b0c10c0388f96d16622e4e93148f8f7b65c2252bfd3ad6
ryanAC refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 89ce197077de6b4cdd94957775e5c1da28bd0a585307fdcaecfc8091ee089231
designdream refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 61c9f966f118b81beb29a461a874082f9e1cac04739a8796e157146933b496de
wo0x refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 491e241cfcb8d564ba179bc69e77053e3b7aa5842770453cb4aca730f5f14586
dhenson refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 4fbb26cbe7ced9c50157714a900c38fdb7c514f5a453d2503db592b85c5fde3d
TheOrri refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 9508f058aa9292eb6e418744dc893fa23a2bb94cb097ddf7061929d4ae512386
finlof refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 76308081a97400985ce42fcdaff6360cdeb6ce6dac9da9e77e16e733f313146b

Amazing, thank you!
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June 12, 2013, 01:55:11 PM
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Kruniac

Do the right thing and you reverse all the bad Karma.
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