PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this?

[craslovell]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

So much irony here posting this on the internet for others to see. I am disgusted. This year is 2013, next year will be 1984.

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[rudrigorc2]

I tried to search more on this and my browser crashed. Im scared.

[melvster]

I'd hoped never to see it confirmed, but it's a US problem only I hope:

“Given the large number of German users of Google, Facebook, Apple or Microsoft services, I expect the German government… is committed to clarification and limitation of surveillance. In addition, the reports illustrate the importance of strengthening the European data protection law. The dilatory attitude of the EU Interior and Justice Ministers towards the Privacy Policy reform package is a completely wrong signal.”

“We have seen the media reports and we are of course concerned for possible consequences on EU citizens’ privacy. For the moment it is too early to draw any conclusion or to comment further. We will get in contact with our U.S. counterparts to seek more details on these issues.”

[craslovell]

I'd hoped never to see it confirmed, but it's a US problem only I hope:

“Given the large number of German users of Google, Facebook, Apple or Microsoft services, I expect the German government… is committed to clarification and limitation of surveillance. In addition, the reports illustrate the importance of strengthening the European data protection law. The dilatory attitude of the EU Interior and Justice Ministers towards the Privacy Policy reform package is a completely wrong signal.”

“We have seen the media reports and we are of course concerned for possible consequences on EU citizens’ privacy. For the moment it is too early to draw any conclusion or to comment further. We will get in contact with our U.S. counterparts to seek more details on these issues.”

I guess supposedly it will be used to examine the communication between US citizens and anyone from outside the country. Example: this thread.

We are really facing a snowballing issue here in the United states. Blatant disregard for the rights of Americans and their privacy.

[craslovell]

I tried to search more on this and my browser crashed. Im scared.

Uh-Oh, better clear your browser cache, delete search history, etc. 

Nevermind it's too late, you've been caught in the prism.

[TomUnderSea]

I'd hoped never to see it confirmed, but it's a US problem only I hope:

Documents leaked by NSA contractor Edward Snowden[6] in June 2013 describe the PRISM program as enabling in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information. It provides for the targeting of any customers of participating corporations who live outside the United States, or American citizens whose communications include web content of people outside the United States. Data which the NSA is able to obtain under PRISM allegedly includes email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice over IP conversations, file transfers, login notifications and social networking details.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

I would say it is more targeted at non-US citizens.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

I'd hoped never to see it confirmed, but it's a US problem only I hope:

Documents leaked by NSA contractor Edward Snowden[6] in June 2013 describe the PRISM program as enabling in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information. It provides for the targeting of any customers of participating corporations who live outside the United States, or American citizens whose communications include web content of people outside the United States. Data which the NSA is able to obtain under PRISM allegedly includes email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice over IP conversations, file transfers, login notifications and social networking details.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

I would say it is more targeted at non-US citizens.

So what? Are foreigners not people who deserve privacy?

[TomUnderSea]

I'd hoped never to see it confirmed, but it's a US problem only I hope:

Documents leaked by NSA contractor Edward Snowden[6] in June 2013 describe the PRISM program as enabling in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information. It provides for the targeting of any customers of participating corporations who live outside the United States, or American citizens whose communications include web content of people outside the United States. Data which the NSA is able to obtain under PRISM allegedly includes email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice over IP conversations, file transfers, login notifications and social networking details.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

I would say it is more targeted at non-US citizens.

So what? Are foreigners not people who deserve privacy?

I'm not saying it is right.  I'm just noting that it is ostensibly directed at non-US citizens and communications with them.

[FlappySocks]

Have you all seen the Edward Snowden video?  Scary.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

[craslovell]

I'd hoped never to see it confirmed, but it's a US problem only I hope:

Documents leaked by NSA contractor Edward Snowden[6] in June 2013 describe the PRISM program as enabling in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information. It provides for the targeting of any customers of participating corporations who live outside the United States, or American citizens whose communications include web content of people outside the United States. Data which the NSA is able to obtain under PRISM allegedly includes email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice over IP conversations, file transfers, login notifications and social networking details.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

I would say it is more targeted at non-US citizens.

So what? Are foreigners not people who deserve privacy?

I'm not saying it is right.  I'm just noting that it is ostensibly directed at non-US citizens and communications with them.

It's violating everyone's rights. They can see anything they want. There's not much we can do to protect ourselves right now. If you push enough of their buttons you'll inevitably get an unwanted knock at your door

[r3wt]

everyone is disgusted by this, its no longer to stop terrorism, its to spy on americans who are tired of the totalitarian leadership of the US. The founding fathers of our country are rolling in their graves.

[craslovell]

Have you all seen the Edward Snowden video?  Scary.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

He doesn't want to be considered a hero, but he really is.

Give it a week, the major news outlets will report that he was actually addicted to heroine, was suspected of rape 5 years, and had ties to some violent militia group. They will do everything they can to bury this and ruin his credibility.

[TomUnderSea]

I'd hoped never to see it confirmed, but it's a US problem only I hope:

Documents leaked by NSA contractor Edward Snowden[6] in June 2013 describe the PRISM program as enabling in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information. It provides for the targeting of any customers of participating corporations who live outside the United States, or American citizens whose communications include web content of people outside the United States. Data which the NSA is able to obtain under PRISM allegedly includes email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice over IP conversations, file transfers, login notifications and social networking details.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

I would say it is more targeted at non-US citizens.

So what? Are foreigners not people who deserve privacy?

I'm not saying it is right.  I'm just noting that it is ostensibly directed at non-US citizens and communications with them.

It's violating everyone's rights. They can see anything they want. There's not much we can do to protect ourselves right now. If you push enough of their buttons you'll inevitably get an unwanted knock at your door

I don't disagree.  I am sickened by this.  Consider that simply posting on this site makes me a candidate for surveillance by Prism.  I would happily discuss my preparations for dealing with an iron-booted government but they are listening.  Let us just say the 2nd Amendment exists for a reason.

[Mike Christ]

Have you all seen the Edward Snowden video?  Scary.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

"Turn-key tyranny."

But you could really see the fear in his eyes.  This man is a real American, if I could put it that way; an actual hero.  He knew what could've happened to him if he let those secrets go and yet let his morals get the better of him.  A real human being.

But this just keeps making that line between the American people and the American government so much thicker and obvious.  They're not us, and they're not with us, is the theme that keeps cropping up.

[TomUnderSea]

Benjamin Franklin - "Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."

[craslovell]

They have unlimited power. Already we've so many constitutional violations, they keep pushing the limits "in the best interest of the American people."

Everytime I see more news about intrusive policies that invade the privacy of citizens, the British Government in the film "V for Vendetta" comes to mind.

[linuxer]

I'll tell you one solution, stop using services provided by american companies. Fuck amrica Fuck Obama


www.boycottamerica.org FTW.

American government is going crazy, they think they can do anything, they want to abuse their powers.
They want to make other countries as their slaves, If they didn't stopped their bullshit, World war will happen some day.

[r3wt]

Oh say does that star spangled
banner yet waaaive?
For the land of the unfree...
and the home of the slaves.

[linuxer]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/08/what_about_a_us_tech_boycott/

[linuxer]

"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it." - Malcolm X

Fuck american govt