NSA killed Sillicon Valley

[Rassah]

Non-americans should boycott american IT-companies as much as possible and instead use services based in neutral countries, for example Germany.

Because Germany never had issues relating to keeping long lists of names of "undesirable" people    

[Ivanhoe]

Non-americans should boycott american IT-companies as much as possible and instead use services based in neutral countries, for example Germany.

Because Germany never had issues relating to keeping long lists of names of "undesirable" people    

A Godwin on the second page in a topic about the NSA and Sillicon Valley, Bravo!

[chmod755]

based in neutral countries, for example Germany.

Germany is not a neutral country and doesn't claim to be neutral.

btw: Does anybody know if this is a legit service: orangewebsite.com ?

[jackjack]

don't kid yourself, everything you do and say online is being monitored

This. Believing otherwise is pure denial of facts.

Good luck Prism, I'm behind 7 onions

[Rampion]

don't kid yourself, everything you do and say online is being monitored

This. Believing otherwise is pure denial of facts.

Good luck Prism, I'm behind 7 onions

Wise choice. Privacy is golden.

[wolongong]

The notion that data transmissions can and will be sniffed is a given.

[gdassori]

I'm too lazy to deserve my priv

[Spendulus]

The only solution of course is to start using open source software with homomorphic encryption or go to full open systems like Bitcoin that record your economic data but not your name... this way we all win, no secretive cabal can dominate, their effects are recorded because they are part of the system too and everyone can observe them... or with encryption not.

With homomorphic encryption there is no need for a third party security provider, another case of white collar industry being automated by advances in cryptography.

We can't bypass the spying all countries do regardless if you trust them or not. look at Libya, Egypt they found data logging software that
was filtering the entire internet... they were able to shut off the internet! don't kid yourself, everything you do and say online is being monitored,
they are just hoping for the day that they can tag all your regular mail, cheques, person to person conversations and filter it all so one single person can monitor all humanities activities.  This is evolutionary, data is getting so complex but singular people need to understand it so the advancement goes from increased complexity to simplification to more complexity and simplification this is how our pattern recognizing minds work.

A stronger move by intelligent people toward various secure methods can not be anything but a good thing.  Yes, with 100 or 1000 times the effort the NSA could track.  But commercial data mining companies could not.  And the IRS couldn't.  And so forth.

I'd say also that people around the world are not simply going to say it's okay for the US to datamine their every word, link and friend.  They are going to say "Hell NO and Fuck You!" to the US companies that are implicit in these schemes.  Which means yet more profitable opportunities for people to devise solutions.

May Facebook rest in peace in that happy LaLaLand with Myspace and Friendster.  May LinkedIn join them soon.  May they hold hands with Prodigy and Compuserve and sing along.

[gollum]

Non-americans should boycott american IT-companies as much as possible and instead use services based in neutral countries, for example Germany.

Because Germany never had issues relating to keeping long lists of names of "undesirable" people    

I didn't mean Germany is neutral as politically neutral (like Switzerland), with neutral I mean they have less intention to spy on people. You got lot of IT startups in Berlin, and lot of IT-companies in Dublin, and lot of former Nokia engineers in Finland starting new companies in IT / mobility / security... I believe the success stories in IT will be european companies.

Most people probably don't care about their privacy when the media hype of this news fades away, but businesses wont forget. They must move their hosting out of USA to protect their privacy and intellectual property and communication, their IT managers have a responsibility to their CEO and shareholders to protect their company.

[gollum]

The notion that data transmissions can and will be sniffed is a given.

Yes, it is stupid to believe any laws or any promises will lead to less spying.
Using encryption and being careful online is the only way to preserve privacy somehow.
Some people claim that NSA can decrypt all publicly known encryption algorithms, but in that case you have protected yourself from everybody else.

[Spendulus]

....Using encryption and being careful online is the only way to preserve privacy somehow.
Some people claim that NSA can decrypt all publicly known encryption algorithms, but in that case you have protected yourself from everybody else.

The NSA has purposefully developed a mythology on this issue.  More likely, they totally suck about as bad as the IRS or the EPA.

[gollum]

....Using encryption and being careful online is the only way to preserve privacy somehow.
Some people claim that NSA can decrypt all publicly known encryption algorithms, but in that case you have protected yourself from everybody else.

The NSA has purposefully developed a mythology on this issue.  More likely, they totally suck about as bad as the IRS or the EPA.

  Lets hope for it. But as you may know, quantum computers will be useful within a few years and NSA is probably the first to use them.

[jdbtracker]

Guess which organization are getting the first deliveries of the new quantum computers, they can do problems that can't be done with standard yes/no algorithms, quantum has a maybe as well.

[a1phanumrc]

To become completely free from the invisible NSA prison we also must boycott american Operating Systems such as Microsoft Windows, Apple iOS and Goolag Androd.
That means no more iPhone, Android or Windows phone.The alternative is of course linux-based mobile phones such as Ubuntu phone.
http://www.ubuntu.com/phone

Ubuntu?

You mean the company that sends all your data to Amazon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc

[a1phanumrc]

Guess which organization are getting the first deliveries of the new quantum computers, they can do problems that can't be done with standard yes/no algorithms, quantum has a maybe as well.

Huh? First deliveries?

Mind quoting some sources?

[Spendulus]

don't kid yourself, everything you do and say online is being monitored

This. Believing otherwise is pure denial of facts.

But it is not by any means the whole story.  Through our advanced comm tech, the power of the individual increases as well as and alongside the increased power of the state.  These war with each other.   Obviously.

But the individual represents billions of experimental paradymns, some fraction of which actively experiment with the interfaces.  It should be obvious that any centralized system cannot begin to cope with, monitor, control or regulate these individuals en mass.

So the state moves more and more franticly, to scoop up the last bits of data.  That's a failure of an attempt at a singularity due to poorly constructed node interconnects and guidance by political factions.

I see this similar to Obaby's attempts at gun regulation, just causing millions to go out and buy.  Now millions go into stealth mode on the internet.  The governmental system is subject to numerous single point failures, eg the current whistleblower and others like him.  How do they respond?  If they choose wrongly, more like Snowden emerge...

[mprep]

don't kid yourself, everything you do and say online is being monitored

This. Believing otherwise is pure denial of facts.

+1000

That's for sure. Pick your words correctly or suffer the consequences.