BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)

[Phoenix1969]

You are a true trooper Bitcoinorama, thanks for all your time typing here, letting us underprivileged folks "in on the scoop" Your dedication & professional manner are highly appreciated.

[Bitcoinorama]

Mate all I do is fire an email, well and took a trip out there, but you don't have to be privileged to ask anyone anything!

[Bagpipe]

Mate all I do is fire an email, well and took a trip out there, but you don't have to be privileged to ask anyone anything!

e-mails of some people get more answers than e-mails of other people, that is if other people get any response at all.

[nightengale]

Mate all I do is fire an email, well and took a trip out there, but you don't have to be privileged to ask anyone anything!

e-mails of some people get more answers than e-mails of other people, that is if other people get any response at all.

The one email I've sent, they've responded to. Are you having an issue with unresponded emails? If so, speak up...

[Kuroth]

I sent them 4 emails in 2 days and they were always very fast to reply so far..

[Bitcoinorama]

I think people forget a few of things and are generally impatient;

1) Sweden is GMT +1, and people need to sleep, even if they are up at 4am and finish whenever...
2) Sam and Andreas handle ALL the admin currently themselves. That's liasing with lawyers, accountants, manufacturers, logistics, Swedish gov whilst keeping on top of ORSoC's contribution. That's a hell of a juggling act. They aren't just glued to the forum or email. Whilst they have a number to call and they do answer, that number is specific to customers, they have separate numbers for the production side obviously, and that takes precident clearly.
3) They have patient families, so cut them some slack. Wives and kids, that prob only see them briefly, if at all daily currently.
4) You won't get to email the ORSoC side, they are kept completely separate from the customers and generic admin crap. Some Q's like the ones I recently sent on behalf of 'Brontosaurus' need to be cleared and answered by ORSoC. If it gives away any competitive advantage, they won't answer publicly, not at this early stage in the game, and despite your impatience, if you are a genuine customer and not a competitor trolling, you wouldn't want them to either, so take assurance on the fact they are a real engineering firm with ASIC pros who know what they are doing, and know what they can and cannot answer right now.
5) They are not hiding anything, they are as transparent as possible, just understandably damn busy as you well want them to be, so chill! This week there is more info!

[idee2013]

I think people forget a few of things and are generally impatient;

1) Sweden is GMT +1, and people need to sleep, even if they are up at 4am and finish whenever...
2) Sam and Andreas handle ALL the admin currently themselves. That's liasing with lawyers, accountants, manufacturers, logistics, Swedish gov whilst keeping on top of ORSoC's contribution. That's a hell of a juggling act. They aren't just glued to the forum or email. Whilst they have a number to call and they do answer, that number is specific to customers, they have separate numbers for the production side obviously, and that takes precident clearly.
3) They have patient families, so cut them some slack. Wives and kids, that prob only see them briefly, if at all daily currently.
4) You won't get to email the ORSoC side, they are kept completely separate from the customers and generic admin crap. Some Q's like the ones I recently sent on behalf of 'Brontosaurus' need to be cleared and answered by ORSoC. If it gives away any competitive advantage, they won't answer publicly, not at this early stage in the game, and despite your impatience, if you are a genuine customer and not a competitor trolling, you wouldn't want them to either, so take assurance on the fact they are a real engineering firm with ASIC pros who know what they are doing, and know what they can and cannot answer right now.
5) They are not hiding anything, they are as transparent as possible, just understandably damn busy as you well want them to be, so chill! This week there is more info!

+1+1+1..really nothing to say more

[Rampion]

I think people forget a few of things and are generally impatient;

1) Sweden is GMT +1, and people need to sleep, even if they are up at 4am and finish whenever...
2) Sam and Andreas handle ALL the admin currently themselves. That's liasing with lawyers, accountants, manufacturers, logistics, Swedish gov whilst keeping on top of ORSoC's contribution. That's a hell of a juggling act. They aren't just glued to the forum or email. Whilst they have a number to call and they do answer, that number is specific to customers, they have separate numbers for the production side obviously, and that takes precident clearly.
3) They have patient families, so cut them some slack. Wives and kids, that prob only see them briefly, if at all daily currently.
4) You won't get to email the ORSoC side, they are kept completely separate from the customers and generic admin crap. Some Q's like the ones I recently sent on behalf of 'Brontosaurus' need to be cleared and answered by ORSoC. If it gives away any competitive advantage, they won't answer publicly, not at this early stage in the game, and despite your impatience, if you are a genuine customer and not a competitor trolling, you wouldn't want them to either, so take assurance on the fact they are a real engineering firm with ASIC pros who know what they are doing, and know what they can and cannot answer right now.
5) They are not hiding anything, they are as transparent as possible, just understandably damn busy as you well want them to be, so chill! This week there is more info!

You may remember that I wrote a couple of times about my main concern being their ability to scale.

The fact that only two persons are handling such a huge and time-sensitive project from the administrative and customer service side confirms my concerns.

I hope they can have the proper team to manage all the stages of this project, otherwise there will be problems.

[Bitcoinorama]

I think people forget a few of things and are generally impatient;

1) Sweden is GMT +1, and people need to sleep, even if they are up at 4am and finish whenever...
2) Sam and Andreas handle ALL the admin currently themselves. That's liasing with lawyers, accountants, manufacturers, logistics, Swedish gov whilst keeping on top of ORSoC's contribution. That's a hell of a juggling act. They aren't just glued to the forum or email. Whilst they have a number to call and they do answer, that number is specific to customers, they have separate numbers for the production side obviously, and that takes precident clearly.
3) They have patient families, so cut them some slack. Wives and kids, that prob only see them briefly, if at all daily currently.
4) You won't get to email the ORSoC side, they are kept completely separate from the customers and generic admin crap. Some Q's like the ones I recently sent on behalf of 'Brontosaurus' need to be cleared and answered by ORSoC. If it gives away any competitive advantage, they won't answer publicly, not at this early stage in the game, and despite your impatience, if you are a genuine customer and not a competitor trolling, you wouldn't want them to either, so take assurance on the fact they are a real engineering firm with ASIC pros who know what they are doing, and know what they can and cannot answer right now.
5) They are not hiding anything, they are as transparent as possible, just understandably damn busy as you well want them to be, so chill! This week there is more info!

You may remember that I wrote a couple of times about my main concern being their ability to scale.

The fact that only two persons are handling such a huge and time-sensitive project from the administrative and customer service side confirms my concerns.

I hope they can have the proper team to manage all the stages of this project, otherwise there will be problems.

Yes, that takes financing, which they now have. Scalability is something Andreas and Sam have plenty of experience in and was something I personally went specifically wanting to see evidence of...

[Slartybardfast]

Just seen over on kickstarter that the documentary has reached it funding goal.  Well done to them.

[Phoenix1969]

Wow, that was fast indeed!

[Coin_fan]

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to say thank you to Bitcoinorama for posts and work...  


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http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3qAq0c98qnX8N-3_PFW9cQ

and of course here:

http://www.kncminer.com/

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[nightengale]

Alright, on a wing and a prayer, I'm in for order #26xx for one Jupiter.

Hopefully this is legit, my marriage may depend on it...     

Does this mean there are 2,600 orders ahead of mine, or does anyone know if the order numbers started at 0?

[dhenson]

I ordered in the first 45 minutes and received order #149.  I think it started at #1, though that doesn't mean they were all paid.

[Kuroth]

Alright, on a wing and a prayer, I'm in for order #26xx for one Jupiter.

Hopefully this is legit, my marriage may depend on it...    

Does this mean there are 2,600 orders ahead of mine, or does anyone know if the order numbers started at 0?

I ordered 2 days ago and my order number is 25## so that sounds about right..


For what its worth I emailed them several questions before I ordered..

One of my questions was cancel Pre order...  They told me I could cancel my pre order at anytime up until it shipped to me..

Hope this is true.. And hope I never have to ask to cancel my pre order(That they start shipping in Sept).

I was told my order number would ship in Oct..

[Phoenix1969]

Today is KNC's 3 week anniversary for accepting Pre-orders... I'm eagerly awaiting the official PAID, "Corrected" Que list, as well as the LOTTO results like a kid who doesn't know what day Christmas is going to be this year!   any time...   

[Phoenix1969]

I ordered in the first 45 minutes and received order #149.  I think it started at #1, though that doesn't mean they were all paid.

I was actually the very first PayPal order, which is order #53.
I used A goog add-on site monitor to alert me of any changes on the site... worked nicely... Sam & I conversed a bit about tweaking the paypal process, as I was the "Test"
Prior orders are most likely non-public.

[dhenson]

I was actually the very first PayPal order, which is order #53.
I used A goog add-on site monitor to alert me of any changes on the site... worked nicely... Sam & I conversed a bit about tweaking the paypal process, as I was the "Test"
Prior orders are most likely non-public.

Thanks for the info, that gives me hope that I'll be in the first day of shipments ;-)

[szmarco]

Bitcoinorama,KNC should release some new information like this below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242411.0

[Bitcoinorama]

Bitcoinorama,KNC should release some new information like this below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242411.0

Perhaps, but you overlook one tiny, but definitive requirement. They would need to be in possession of their chips already, unless you want a picture of a finger...?