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November 10, 2017, 08:25:34 PM
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I could actually see something like this being very useful in the future.

Yeah, anyone who really knows the future of automobiles knows the amount of people who own a car is going to start dropping drastically when fully autonomous vehicles come.

Exactly, because who really needs a car to sit unused 22 hours a day? Better to call a self driving taxi for super cheap. I could see CrowdDriving being very useful in this scenario. A group comes together and invests in a car, and they set it up to taxi around the city 24 hours a day and split the profit, and there would be lots of profit.

That is exactly where we want to go. To start and grow the business we will start with a car rental service and reselling the cars. In the future when there are fully autonomous cars the whole car market will change. And with our solution it doesn't matter where you live. You can live in Germany and own a part of a taxi in New York that works for you 24 hours a day. And you don't have to worry about maintenance because we will do the work for you.
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November 11, 2017, 05:39:04 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?
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November 11, 2017, 05:52:18 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Depends on the country, availability, capacity and a lot of other circumstances. You can't say an exact percentage at the moment. With our sport car rental we calculate to amortize a car in one year. That would be a profit of up to 10% per month. This is only a calculation and can't be guaranteed.
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November 11, 2017, 06:12:17 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Seems like too many factors to try to estimate this. How many people decided to keep their cars vs. use automated taxis? How much competition is there driving down price? How big is the city resulting in higher demand? Just so many factors.

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November 11, 2017, 06:22:14 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Seems like too many factors to try to estimate this. How many people decided to keep their cars vs. use automated taxis? How much competition is there driving down price? How big is the city resulting in higher demand? Just so many factors.

Right there are a lot of factors in the case of automated taxis. We think until there are automated taxis it may takes a few years. At the moment we concentrate to do our business now with the the current technology. We have new technologies in view and we will adapt to them if needed.
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November 11, 2017, 06:23:19 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Seems like too many factors to try to estimate this. How many people decided to keep their cars vs. use automated taxis? How much competition is there driving down price? How big is the city resulting in higher demand? Just so many factors.

Right there are a lot of factors in the case of automated taxis. We think until there are automated taxis it may takes a few years. At the moment we concentrate to do our business now with the the current technology. We have new technologies in view and we will adapt to them if needed.

And your current technologies mostly concentrates on renting/leasing vehicles?
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Seems like too many factors to try to estimate this. How many people decided to keep their cars vs. use automated taxis? How much competition is there driving down price? How big is the city resulting in higher demand? Just so many factors.

Right there are a lot of factors in the case of automated taxis. We think until there are automated taxis it may takes a few years. At the moment we concentrate to do our business now with the the current technology. We have new technologies in view and we will adapt to them if needed.

And your current technologies mostly concentrates on renting/leasing vehicles?

Right at the beginning we will provide cars to our marketplace on which everybody can participate who owns CAR token. We will rent, lease or resell the cars to make a profit for all shareholders of the car. The next step is to open our marketplace to other car garages and rental services. They can also provide their cars to the marketplace. At the end it doesn't matter if it is an automated car, a sport car or any other car.
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November 12, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Depends on the country, availability, capacity and a lot of other circumstances. You can't say an exact percentage at the moment. With our sport car rental we calculate to amortize a car in one year. That would be a profit of up to 10% per month. This is only a calculation and can't be guaranteed.

That's very true. How about a rental car, do you guys have estimates on it?
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November 12, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
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Great idea! But what's gonna hapen when you will buy lambo for yourself?  Cheesy
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November 12, 2017, 05:13:00 PM
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Great idea! But what's gonna hapen when you will buy lambo for yourself?  Cheesy

Rent that baby out with some heavy duty insurance!

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November 12, 2017, 05:30:42 PM
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Great idea! But what's gonna hapen when you will buy lambo for yourself?  Cheesy

This isn't going to happen. We will buy a sport car probably a Lamborghini for the business to rent it to our costumers. We want to build a long term business and if we buy a Lamborghini for ourselves we don't build a long term business. You can also meet us in Switzerland and have a look at our progress. If we want to ride a sport car will be our own costumers.
When the marketplace is ready and opened to all car garages and sport car rentals you aren't depending on a provider.
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November 12, 2017, 05:36:28 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Seems like too many factors to try to estimate this. How many people decided to keep their cars vs. use automated taxis? How much competition is there driving down price? How big is the city resulting in higher demand? Just so many factors.

Right there are a lot of factors in the case of automated taxis. We think until there are automated taxis it may takes a few years. At the moment we concentrate to do our business now with the the current technology. We have new technologies in view and we will adapt to them if needed.

And your current technologies mostly concentrates on renting/leasing vehicles?

Right at the beginnen we will provide cars to our marketplace on which everybody can participate who owns CAR token. We will rent, lease or resell the cars to make a profit for all shareholders of the car. The next step is to open our marketplace to other car garages and rental services. They can also provide their cars to the marketplace. At the end it doesn't matter if it is an automated car, a sport car or any other car.

So once it's open to other car garages and rental services, they'll sell shares of the cars they already have, or even increase their fleet with the help of token buyers?
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November 12, 2017, 06:11:43 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Seems like too many factors to try to estimate this. How many people decided to keep their cars vs. use automated taxis? How much competition is there driving down price? How big is the city resulting in higher demand? Just so many factors.

Right there are a lot of factors in the case of automated taxis. We think until there are automated taxis it may takes a few years. At the moment we concentrate to do our business now with the the current technology. We have new technologies in view and we will adapt to them if needed.

And your current technologies mostly concentrates on renting/leasing vehicles?

Right at the beginnen we will provide cars to our marketplace on which everybody can participate who owns CAR token. We will rent, lease or resell the cars to make a profit for all shareholders of the car. The next step is to open our marketplace to other car garages and rental services. They can also provide their cars to the marketplace. At the end it doesn't matter if it is an automated car, a sport car or any other car.

So once it's open to other car garages and rental services, they'll sell shares of the cars they already have, or even increase their fleet with the help of token buyers?

Both they can sell shares of the cars they already have to get growth capital or to increase their fleet. I depends if they are car garages or rental services. Rental services have the need to increase their fleet that they have a bigger offer for their costumers.
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November 13, 2017, 04:48:16 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Depends on the country, availability, capacity and a lot of other circumstances. You can't say an exact percentage at the moment. With our sport car rental we calculate to amortize a car in one year. That would be a profit of up to 10% per month. This is only a calculation and can't be guaranteed.

That's very true. How about a rental car, do you guys have estimates on it?

Any estimates? How long would it take to pay off the investment?
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November 13, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
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Any big investors on board that you know of?
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November 13, 2017, 06:21:16 PM
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dear all
here is the Arabic translation of the ANN thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2398384.new#new
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November 13, 2017, 06:29:21 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Depends on the country, availability, capacity and a lot of other circumstances. You can't say an exact percentage at the moment. With our sport car rental we calculate to amortize a car in one year. That would be a profit of up to 10% per month. This is only a calculation and can't be guaranteed.

That's very true. How about a rental car, do you guys have estimates on it?

Any estimates? How long would it take to pay off the investment?

We have estimated that it will take about 12-15 months to pay of the investment on a rental car depending on the car. And you also have your shares that you can trade until the rental car is sold or we have to replace it. We can use a rental car up to 2.5 years or 200‘000 km. So the investment is paid off even faster.
If you buy shares of a car that will be resold or leased you get your profit when the car is sold.
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November 13, 2017, 06:31:51 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Seems like too many factors to try to estimate this. How many people decided to keep their cars vs. use automated taxis? How much competition is there driving down price? How big is the city resulting in higher demand? Just so many factors.

Right there are a lot of factors in the case of automated taxis. We think until there are automated taxis it may takes a few years. At the moment we concentrate to do our business now with the the current technology. We have new technologies in view and we will adapt to them if needed.

And your current technologies mostly concentrates on renting/leasing vehicles?

Right at the beginnen we will provide cars to our marketplace on which everybody can participate who owns CAR token. We will rent, lease or resell the cars to make a profit for all shareholders of the car. The next step is to open our marketplace to other car garages and rental services. They can also provide their cars to the marketplace. At the end it doesn't matter if it is an automated car, a sport car or any other car.

So once it's open to other car garages and rental services, they'll sell shares of the cars they already have, or even increase their fleet with the help of token buyers?

Both they can sell shares of the cars they already have to get growth capital or to increase their fleet. I depends if they are car garages or rental services. Rental services have the need to increase their fleet that they have a bigger offer for their costumers.

When you say car garages, you mean like mechanics shops? This would be a great way for them to easily get into renting out cars to their customers who are having their vehicles fixed.
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November 13, 2017, 07:53:52 PM
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I wonder just how much profit there could be with a single self driving taxi?

Seems like too many factors to try to estimate this. How many people decided to keep their cars vs. use automated taxis? How much competition is there driving down price? How big is the city resulting in higher demand? Just so many factors.

Right there are a lot of factors in the case of automated taxis. We think until there are automated taxis it may takes a few years. At the moment we concentrate to do our business now with the the current technology. We have new technologies in view and we will adapt to them if needed.

And your current technologies mostly concentrates on renting/leasing vehicles?

Right at the beginnen we will provide cars to our marketplace on which everybody can participate who owns CAR token. We will rent, lease or resell the cars to make a profit for all shareholders of the car. The next step is to open our marketplace to other car garages and rental services. They can also provide their cars to the marketplace. At the end it doesn't matter if it is an automated car, a sport car or any other car.

So once it's open to other car garages and rental services, they'll sell shares of the cars they already have, or even increase their fleet with the help of token buyers?

Both they can sell shares of the cars they already have to get growth capital or to increase their fleet. I depends if they are car garages or rental services. Rental services have the need to increase their fleet that they have a bigger offer for their costumers.

When you say car garages, you mean like mechanics shops? This would be a great way for them to easily get into renting out cars to their customers who are having their vehicles fixed.

Yes we mean also mechanics shops. In Switzerland mechanics shops normaly also sell cars. Right they can grow with our platform and offer new services.
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November 13, 2017, 08:00:19 PM
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dear all
here is the Arabic translation of the ANN thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2398384.new#new

Thank you we will update the spreadsheet.
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