To the attention of Envion management team members. What happens with signature campaing is inadmissible for all supporters of Envion project in this bounty campaign. Dozens or hundreds of people who supported the Envion project complain that the bounty manager did not calculate the number of posts correctly by not counting the last days of the ICO campaign. We have no other solution than to ask Envion team to make an independent and parallel count of all posts in signature campaing. A possible solution would be to choose from us 2 or 3 to recalculate the signature campaign. Thank you.
This concern was addressed couple of times and Envion posted on the thread to clear things up regarding with Signature Bounty. Kindly check previous post.
BOUNTY MANAGER,
Please change my address!!!
Facebook Spreedsheet # 424
0x3583Cb938a2dC8B9892aB5b0E1703e6760c4cCD6
THANKS!!!!
Thank you for your message. As much as we want to change this but unfortunately we cannot do this kind of change on the spreadsheet.
Hello, @yombu!
Unfortunately, your words differ from your actions.
In words, you claim that your goal is to honestly pay hunters for their honest work.
What do we see in practice?
1) Some people here have problems with their wallet address (their private keys is lost or compromised) and they ask you to change it - but you deny them!
Why?
No other explanation, besides - that you just do not want to bother with "extra" work - I do not see.
I.e., you answer all of them, in fact: "I'll pay for your work to someone else (for example - a thief), because I'm too lazy to change the address in the spreadsheet"!
2) Some hunters, like myself, have not received proper reflection of their work in the spreadsheet. Someone really did not read the rules carefully and made their reports here, but there are those (including me) who filled out the forms - but now he does not see his stakes in your calculations! I've missed my Twitter stakes in the 3rd and 5th weeks - but how can I now prove to you that I filled out the form? Anyway!
But even this is not important (if someone has completed a form or not, the main thing is that the person is WORKING FOR YOUR SUCCESS) - if you really wanted to honestly pay for our work - you would spend a little time now and take a check our links as evidence of our work. That's how all honest bounty managers act in other campaigns. Why do not you do this? I do not find again any other reason - except your unwillingness, alas.
3) Someone from the signature campaigns participants writes that his stakes have been updated. My stakes still did not change. Have you not yet verified everyone, or did you do it selectively? By what principle?
So, I summarize, @yombu:
or really do the real, complete and honest checking and accrual for all who worked for ENVION's success. Or stop hypocrites and don`t write us about your aspiration to reward everyone honestly and at the merits!
Sincerely yours.
Thank you for your message.
1. How can we be sure that the participant is real when they ask to update their wallet address? If their account was compromised then chances are the person who is requesting the update is not the real participant.
2. We count every report that we have received from the form and it was reviewed right after the end of ICO. I checked your activity on Twitter Bounty and it appears that you made 43 retweets on the 5th period, do you think that you follow the rules correctly? On the 3rd period your report was counted it was submitted to Envion for their review.
3. Again, please read previous post this same concern was addressed couple of times in this thread.
4. We have done our part and we submitted our report to Envion. They will review everything. Thank you for sending us this message, if there are any discrepancies on the spreadsheet after Envion's review the changes will be applied on the spreadsheet
Hello, @yombu!
Unfortunately, your words differ from your business.
In words, you claim that your goal is to honestly pay hunters for their honest work.
What do we see in practice?
1) Some people here have problems with their wallet address (their private keys is lost or compromised) and they ask you to change it - but you deny them!
Why?
No other explanation, besides - that you just do not want to bother with "extra" work - I do not see.
I.e., you answer all of them, in fact: "I'll pay for your work to someone else (for example - a thief), because I'm too lazy to change the address in the spreadsheet"!
2) Some hunters, like myself, have not received proper reflection of their work in the spreadsheet. Someone really did not read the rules carefully and made their reports here, but there are those (including me) who filled out the forms - but now he does not see his stakes in your calculations! I've missed my Twitter stakes in the 3rd and 5th weeks - but how can I now prove to you that I filled out the form? Anyway!
But even this is not important (if someone has completed a form or not, the main thing is that the person is WORKING FOR YOUR SUCCESS) - if you really wanted to honestly pay for our work - you would spend a little time now and take a check our links as evidence of our work. That's how all honest bounty managers act in other campaigns. Why do not you do this? I do not find again any other reason - except your unwillingness, alas.
3) Someone from the signature campaigns participants writes that his stakes have been updated. My stakes still did not change. Have you not yet verified everyone, or did you do it selectively? By what principle?
So, I summarize, @yombu:
or really do the real, complete and honest checking and accrual for all who worked for ENVION's success. Or stop hypocrites and don`t write us about your aspiration to reward everyone honestly and at the merits!
Sincerely yours.
Look at our convo dude my post wasn't count because I removed my sig when he announce it can be removed lol. How unprofessional reason is.
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Thank you for your message. We have done our part and we submitted our report to Envion. They will review everything. If there are any discrepancies on the spreadsheet after Envion's review the changes will be applied on the spreadsheet.
Whether it is yombu or the Envion team, please pay attention to my signature bounty count:
My final post count should be at 340 posts, from January 14, and I started at 304 posts. You have listed as I have only 29 posts and stopped counting at post #333. Accordingly, I should have 36 posts instead of 29.
If anyone can also validate this, it will prove me correct. Unless you have stopped counting posts earlier, which is grossly unfair to all participants.
We did another review right after the end of ICO and our report was submitted to Envion for them to review and approve. If there are any discrepancies on the spreadsheet after Envion's review the changes will be applied on the spreadsheet.
When will bounty be distributed? Any specified date?
From the first page of this thread I quote:
"Envion will distribute awards among those who contribute to the bounty program goals after envion conducts a thorough review to assess quality and prevent abuse.
This will occur no less than 2 weeks after the ICO ends."
I don't really know what will occur no less than 2 weeks after the ICO; the distribution or the thorough review...
For us, bounty-participants, it would be most logically that they are talking about the distribution, right?
On the other hand, it is already January 28th... Exact 2 weeks after the initial ending of the ICO. In 2 days it should be 2 weeks after the extended ICO date... So if I understand correctly the distribution should commence on either the 30th or 31st of January.
Thank you for your message. We hope to give everyone an update on the distribution of the rewards. Envion is currently finalizing the KYC and after that is the distribution of all tokens.
Hello, @yombu!
Unfortunately, your words differ from your business.
In words, you claim that your goal is to honestly pay hunters for their honest work.
What do we see in practice?
1) Some people here have problems with their wallet address (their private keys is lost or compromised) and they ask you to change it - but you deny them!
Why?
No other explanation, besides - that you just do not want to bother with "extra" work - I do not see.
I.e., you answer all of them, in fact: "I'll pay for your work to someone else (for example - a thief), because I'm too lazy to change the address in the spreadsheet"!
2) Some hunters, like myself, have not received proper reflection of their work in the spreadsheet. Someone really did not read the rules carefully and made their reports here, but there are those (including me) who filled out the forms - but now he does not see his stakes in your calculations! I've missed my Twitter stakes in the 3rd and 5th weeks - but how can I now prove to you that I filled out the form? Anyway!
But even this is not important (if someone has completed a form or not, the main thing is that the person is WORKING FOR YOUR SUCCESS) - if you really wanted to honestly pay for our work - you would spend a little time now and take a check our links as evidence of our work. That's how all honest bounty managers act in other campaigns. Why do not you do this? I do not find again any other reason - except your unwillingness, alas.
3) Someone from the signature campaigns participants writes that his stakes have been updated. My stakes still did not change. Have you not yet verified everyone, or did you do it selectively? By what principle?
So, I summarize, @yombu:
or really do the real, complete and honest checking and accrual for all who worked for ENVION's success. Or stop hypocrites and don`t write us about your aspiration to reward everyone honestly and at the merits!
Sincerely yours.
CM also reduced my posts count from 160 (if they count from the start when I am joined) down to 122 (Because I have a old posts deleted from local boards) and now it's 93 posts without any reason.
I didn't removed my signature yet, I already sent a DM to Yombu but there's no reply until now. I am still waiting for the update of my real stakes in signature campaign.
We did another review right after the end of ICO and we submitted our report to Envion for their review. Please feel free to remove your signature.
I still cannot see any progress in bounty sheet - does it mean we will have to wait a long time?
Thank you for your message. Yes, we are asking for a little more patience and understanding from you as we are finalizing everything. We hope to give you an update soon and it will be posted here on the thread.
Hi Manager,
I see that spreadsheets are updated but the number of tokens each participant has earned are not shown yet, while 2 week period after ico is almost over, i hope there will be an official update soon. thank you!
Please read my response above.
yombu
TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOUNTY MANAGER!
Hello guys, I've been monitoring complaints about the projects and I write on the forum if I find something.
The bounty manager of Envion project is probably scamming people. I'm saying "probably" because I wait for his explanation. I read many complaints about their signature campaign and lots of people are complaining about the mistakes in post counting.
I checked the posts of people complaining about post counts and they're mostly correct! The bounty manager is making a huge mistake, I don't know why. Maybe he makes this on purpose.
ONE QUESTION: WHY YOU COUNTED PEOPLE'S POSTS INCORRECTLY ON PURPOSE?
If a person exceeded the minimum post count of 30 within the ICO period, you wrote something below 30, probably randomly, I don't see any logic behind this. It shouldn't be that hard to count people's posts.
I remember that there were post counts on the spreadsheet 5-6-7-8 days prior to the ICO end. What is the point of this? You should have counted the posts after the ICO ends only. Counting the posts before the ICO end is just meaningless.
Please correct the situation and provide an explanation to the public or Envion project will be a subject to a scam just because of your incredible mistakes.
Answer this immediately or I'll gladly report this situation to the scam monitoring websites, organizations and platforms.
NOTE: This post will be edited if the problem is fixed by the bounty manager.
Also, the bounty manager must indicate in his post in this forum thread the exact date when bounty members can remove the signature. This is wrong when the bounty manager points out the rules when he is asked about the exact date for removing the signature. Probably the manager of the bounty is new to this forum and does not know the rules of conducting bounty companies.
As stated, few times now (we even made a public post about it), yes, you can now remove the signature.
dev, where i can find evion bounty chatgroup on telegram?
i want to follow the progress and the current issue
You can follow them on their official channels.
Can you please check our response on your message. Also, we can't find you on the participant sheet that is why your report was marked red.
I still cannot see any progress in bounty sheet - does it mean we will have to wait a long time?
Strange, mine has been updated successfully in last three days and calculation seems just fine now by my side.
I meant the update for blog sheet, where the impact and stakes are still missing.
We will post it as soon as Envion is done on their review.