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October 24, 2018, 02:24:15 PM
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Any chance on a GUI wallet?  Smiley

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If you wanna use your own wallet i highly recommend you the cli-wallet. i`ve never worked with a cli wallet before. it`s really simple, this guide is great. -> https://electroneum101.com/electroneum-cli-wallet/
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October 24, 2018, 03:31:14 PM
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The team is currently working on a solution so that everyone will have the opportunity to compete KYC. Tier 2 is not required by anybody until November 12th, so you do not need to worry about it until then. If you're worried about not being able to access your funds, you can either put your coins on the offline wallet at downloads.electroneum.com or use the Liquid.com exchange for trading and secure cold storage wallets.
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October 24, 2018, 04:04:34 PM
Last edit: October 24, 2018, 04:15:43 PM by Adriano2010
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The team is currently working on a solution so that everyone will have the opportunity to compete KYC. Tier 2 is not required by anybody until November 12th, so you do not need to worry about it until then. If you're worried about not being able to access your funds, you can either put your coins on the offline wallet at downloads.electroneum.com or use the Liquid.com exchange for trading and secure cold storage wallets.

Hi. So kyc level 2 is asked for all starting November 12th? Where you read this info? Maybe i miss that info, but i read that level 2 kyc is not required if 150€/3 months in ETN is not exceeded. Is not enough level 1 if people not have more than 150€/3 months?  Can you give a link please?
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October 24, 2018, 05:19:05 PM
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It is going to obligatory to complete KYC sooner or later in every centralized project. They are fair at least they allowed enough time to those are not agreeing on doing the identity verification. They are stepping in practical world as payment processor where they need to know every single transaction and creator of that and resources of funds in case of something goes wrong. There are days if you not agree just sell and move on to next project.
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October 24, 2018, 05:34:42 PM
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In any case to move your BTC out and make them spendable money, at the time of this writing, you need to move them to an exchange convert them to Fiat (not the car) and to withdraw you need to be ID verified.


no, you're wrong, most of the purchase / sale of bitcoins takes place outside the exchanges.
for example Sasha sells 1 bitcoin to Natasha (for example, an ad in a newspaper or on the Internet) - they both do not need to be verified.
but if it is ETN - they both need verification.

This is for sure NOT TRUE for several reasons. While it's an option it's absolutly for sure not the most used one.
And just additionally, IF you buy another crypto coin with BTC you sold BTC as well, just as a sidenote.

And you can sell/buy ETN without KYC, just keep them in your cli wallet, easy as that. No rocket science at all.
There is No mandatory update/KYC for all wallets in place, just the webwallet. Don't like KYC don't use the webwallet, simple
and easy as that.



of course etn cli wallet does not require kyc
but, when we say about mass adoption (as etn team say), then we must compare mobile wallets (or web wallets).
and you can find many btc mobile wallet - mycelium, for example, absolutly anonimous, or any others
but etn - not.
so this was discussed

but for millions of people it doesn't matter - they post photos of their entire lives,
so we'll see what happens
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October 24, 2018, 08:33:18 PM
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Any chance on a GUI wallet?  Smiley

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If you wanna use your own wallet i highly recommend you the cli-wallet. i`ve never worked with a cli wallet before. it`s really simple, this guide is great. -> https://electroneum101.com/electroneum-cli-wallet/
Thx....but I'll wait for the GUI. A Lot of people probably aren't mining because of no GUI...IMO.  Smiley
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October 24, 2018, 08:45:15 PM
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Any chance on a GUI wallet?  Smiley

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If you wanna use your own wallet i highly recommend you the cli-wallet. i`ve never worked with a cli wallet before. it`s really simple, this guide is great. -> https://electroneum101.com/electroneum-cli-wallet/
Thx....but I'll wait for the GUI. A Lot of people probably aren't mining because of no GUI...IMO.  Smiley

There will be no gui wallet. they have their webwallet and want you to use it for kyc reasons. so why should they release a gui wallet. nope... no way.
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October 25, 2018, 07:11:55 AM
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I agree that there probably won't be official wallet made by ETN team, but I remember there was non official GUI wallet made by a community member. The link was somewhere in this thread or the earlier one (first ANN), I can't find it right now, will try to dig it later.
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October 25, 2018, 07:37:11 AM
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Hi. I just have a question. I have my smartphone with me. Can I mine with this? (Xiaomi Mi Max) And will it be profitable or just plain stupidity? I don't want to ever destroy my device but I am really curious about it. I don't want my time wasted mining then I can't even have ROI. Thanks if anyone is answering this!
Its just a simulation and not actually uses your smartphones power and cpu like mining on gpus smartphones cannot handles such kind of computing power your smartphone is actually safe at this but it will take time to earn huge amount of tokens from this in my experienced. 

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October 25, 2018, 07:40:32 AM
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Hi. I just have a question. I have my smartphone with me. Can I mine with this? (Xiaomi Mi Max) And will it be profitable or just plain stupidity? I don't want to ever destroy my device but I am really curious about it. I don't want my time wasted mining then I can't even have ROI. Thanks if anyone is answering this!

It won't destroy your smartphone but one thing i can say is you cannot make much money on weekly basis through mobile mining. There are more than 100000 users mining through smartphone and it coins are completely dependent on their mobile peripherals.
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October 25, 2018, 07:43:08 AM
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In any case to move your BTC out and make them spendable money, at the time of this writing, you need to move them to an exchange convert them to Fiat (not the car) and to withdraw you need to be ID verified.


no, you're wrong, most of the purchase / sale of bitcoins takes place outside the exchanges.
for example Sasha sells 1 bitcoin to Natasha (for example, an ad in a newspaper or on the Internet) - they both do not need to be verified.
but if it is ETN - they both need verification.

This is for sure NOT TRUE for several reasons. While it's an option it's absolutly for sure not the most used one.
And just additionally, IF you buy another crypto coin with BTC you sold BTC as well, just as a sidenote.

And you can sell/buy ETN without KYC, just keep them in your cli wallet, easy as that. No rocket science at all.
There is No mandatory update/KYC for all wallets in place, just the webwallet. Don't like KYC don't use the webwallet, simple
and easy as that.



of course etn cli wallet does not require kyc
but, when we say about mass adoption (as etn team say), then we must compare mobile wallets (or web wallets).
and you can find many btc mobile wallet - mycelium, for example, absolutly anonimous, or any others
but etn - not.
so this was discussed

but for millions of people it doesn't matter - they post photos of their entire lives,
so we'll see what happens


Actualy the mycelium wallet isn't anonimous by default and nature. You must download additionally orbot and use tor
network, and use custom backend server settings to have it running real anonimous, just as a sidenote.

IF you don't run these wallets like that they are at best psyeudo anonimous but not real anonious, just something having
in mind if you are all about real true anonymousity.

And just another sidenote, it makes even sense to imply KYC on ETN because they use a different payment system than other
decentralized currencies. Have in mind that on nearly all crypto currencies the payment is sent/arrived instantly. This is NOT
the case with ETN, if a payment is made the vendor/receiver only gets the message that the payment is on it's way, nothing
more.

With POW mining this is mostly one of the view options due limited transactions/second and low transaction speed to make
indeed real life cases for paying for example mini transactions. It makes perfect sense that KYC for a not real decentralized
project like ETN, even from a security point of view.

Solving such problems are similar to the trilemma problem, you only can have 2 of the 3, security, scalability, decentralization.
Once you improve one of the 3 you lower another one, easy and simple as that. Best example is BTC, you have security and
decentralization but no scalability at all. Same goes for ETH, hence why they want to move to POS.

Just as some sidenotes to understand why the KYC with ETN is an interesting approach to solve maybe some of the problems
that are needed for mass adoption. And again, i personally like that approach, for everyone that has problems with KYC
there are about 3,000 other coins to choose from by now. Moving from Marketcap rank #100+ to the #50 rank range makes
me indeed think it's the right direction to make ETN unique.

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October 25, 2018, 12:26:03 PM
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Hello, dear miners!

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- Mining to exchange
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Welcome & Lucky Mining!
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October 25, 2018, 12:45:44 PM
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Hi. I just have a question. I have my smartphone with me. Can I mine with this? (Xiaomi Mi Max) And will it be profitable or just plain stupidity? I don't want to ever destroy my device but I am really curious about it. I don't want my time wasted mining then I can't even have ROI. Thanks if anyone is answering this!

It won't destroy your smartphone but one thing i can say is you cannot make much money on weekly basis through mobile mining. There are more than 100000 users mining through smartphone and it coins are completely dependent on their mobile peripherals.

I do mine occasionally with my smartphone also but i always feel it will affect my battery in the long run so i tried not to make it consistent, obviously you can't make much with the mobile mining largely because of amount of users now is increasing by the day.
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October 25, 2018, 08:02:41 PM
Last edit: October 25, 2018, 08:35:01 PM by tbearhere
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Any chance on a GUI wallet?  Smiley

no Cheesy

If you wanna use your own wallet i highly recommend you the cli-wallet. i`ve never worked with a cli wallet before. it`s really simple, this guide is great. -> https://electroneum101.com/electroneum-cli-wallet/
Thx....but I'll wait for the GUI. A Lot of people probably aren't mining because of no GUI...IMO.  Smiley

There will be no gui wallet. they have their webwallet and want you to use it for kyc reasons. so why should they release a gui wallet. nope... no way.

Web wallet is to insecure. But thx.  KYC tracking info. Wtf capitalism... corporate garbage.  Roll Eyes
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October 25, 2018, 08:04:06 PM
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I agree that there probably won't be official wallet made by ETN team, but I remember there was non official GUI wallet made by a community member. The link was somewhere in this thread or the earlier one (first ANN), I can't find it right now, will try to dig it later.

Thx.. appreciate that.  Smiley
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October 25, 2018, 09:05:52 PM
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I agree that there probably won't be official wallet made by ETN team, but I remember there was non official GUI wallet made by a community member. The link was somewhere in this thread or the earlier one (first ANN), I can't find it right now, will try to dig it later.

Thx.. appreciate that.  Smiley

Damn, search on bitcointalk is so broken I gave up, but found this reddit post (which is probably form same user I was looking for here)  and you can find the wallet releases on his Github page - https://github.com/XzenTorXz/ElectroneumGUIWallet/releases . Since I wasn't using it by myself I'm not sure how stable is it, but you can test it.
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October 25, 2018, 09:34:07 PM
Last edit: October 26, 2018, 10:56:14 AM by tbearhere
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I agree that there probably won't be official wallet made by ETN team, but I remember there was non official GUI wallet made by a community member. The link was somewhere in this thread or the earlier one (first ANN), I can't find it right now, will try to dig it later.

Thx.. appreciate that.  Smiley

Damn, search on bitcointalk is so broken I gave up, but found this reddit post (which is probably form same user I was looking for here)  and you can find the wallet releases on his Github page - https://github.com/XzenTorXz/ElectroneumGUIWallet/releases . Since I wasn't using it by myself I'm not sure how stable is it, but you can test it.

Thx sud.  Smiley

EDIT: That GUI wallet is broken.  Tongue
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October 27, 2018, 05:04:28 AM
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Guys, ETN price has dropped 50% in the last few weeks (though it is still up overall), is there a hard reason for this? I had high hopes for ETN but its sliding downhill ....

What is the next stage of real world implementation for ETN?

Will it ever be the mainstream crypto it was meant to be?

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October 27, 2018, 05:35:49 AM
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Guys, ETN price has dropped 50% in the last few weeks (though it is still up overall), is there a hard reason for this? I had high hopes for ETN but its sliding downhill ....

What is the next stage of real world implementation for ETN?

Will it ever be the mainstream crypto it was meant to be?

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Every project needs active developments and active about their progress and sometimes due to market situation we have to accept because market is not controlled by us. Look at the price of Bitcoin kept declining in the market makes us to loose value of other coins in the market.

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October 27, 2018, 06:59:45 AM
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Every project needs active developments and active about their progress and sometimes due to market situation we have to accept because market is not controlled by us. Look at the price of Bitcoin kept declining in the market makes us to loose value of other coins in the market.
Internal developments will determine the intrinsic values of projects.
Therefore, we all have to wait for next announcement of Electroneum team in order to see the next growth wave of the coin.
The supply and demand rule is another factor, but all those two will determine the trend of price in long-term.
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