Stolen Signature Design

[snakey]

It is quite embarrassing to see how this thread has turned itself to a bully topic , I can't stop laughing how stern people are there in this scam trading project.
I think the signature participants is itself the CEO,just see his language.

[ElPedras]

Lauda,
We'll talk face to face

[Aventhe]

@Altradex see, this is how retarded you truly are. You leave me negative trust saying: "leaves negative trust, possible alt because email changed" Could you please tell me where exactly I left negative trust to you or your alt Accounts? Just pathetic..

[actmyname]

@Altradex see, this is how retarded you truly are. You leave me negative trust saying: "leaves negative trust, possible alt because email changed" Could you please tell me where exactly I left negative trust to you or your alt Accounts? Just pathetic..

Wow, incredible. Your email changed but your password didn't.
It's obvious that the hacker is a genius and wants to use your account undetected! /s

Lauda,
We'll talk face to face

How do you plan on doing that when you're still in middle school?

[DarkStar_]

(the other thread was locked but I really wanted to post this meme)

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Alttradex,

Please modify the signature so that everyone move on from this

That's exactly what Alttradex should do, and you should be paid by him IMO, right now.  

I was in a similar situation when Cryptodevil started saying he was going to start negging people wearing the Enjin signature, while he started up a scam accusation against Enjin.  He didn't prove anything, but I was spooked enough such that I ditched the signature (after I got paid, true, but the accusation was just that at the time).

You're wearing stolen code, and you won't stop.  That's why you got the negative.  It sucks that Alltradex is immature and doesn't realize his mistake, but you're required to do the right thing too--regardless of whether you're in the middle of something or not.

Edit: Joel_Jantsen just went through this.  The devs copied some code and J_J did the right thing:  He put the kabosh on the campaign, locked the thread, and came back when the devs got a new signature written.  That's exactly what this knucklehead ought to do.

[ElPedras]

So,
Is this signature still owned by anyone?

[Aventhe]

So,
Is this signature still owned by anyone?

To be honest I feel like you are a lost cause. When do you not understand that you HAVE to remove the signature? Just because you modify it doesn't mean jack sh**. As far as we know, it may be a scam project and if you remove it for a few days, I'm sure it won't have more negative effects on you as much as you have already received.

[Alttradex]

So,
Is this signature still owned by anyone?

To be honest I feel like you are a lost cause. When do you not understand that you HAVE to remove the signature? Just because you modify it doesn't mean jack sh**. As far as we know, it may be a scam project and if you remove it for a few days, I'm sure it won't have more negative effects on you as much as you have already received.

You get negative trust for falsely accusing us of being a scam project when nothing at all points towards it being a scam.  On top of that, you decide to give us negative trust when you really have nothing to do with any of this.  Just a sad loser jumping on the bandwagon thinking you will earn points with idiots like Lauda and the rest.

He does not HAVE to remove anything.  Also you are either blind or stupid because ElPedras has already modified his signature in good faith.  He did not HAVE to but your bullying forced his hand, which is despicable on all of your parts given he has nothing to do with this situation.

On a final note, we are not changing the signatures.

[ElPedras]

Look man, I thought that this is about the signature structure, which I don't understand how a signature structure can be owned by anyone - if there is this rule, please send a link to all the signatures owned by anyone so I could do something to the signature not to look as the same as anyone else's.

This is a legit a project project in my opinion, and I want to be a part of it by promoting them in my signature - which I will change it so it will look different and still promote Alttradex. If you have a different opinion about their project that's yours, and I would like to thank you for your concern, but I'm ok. If I would take advice from everyone not to promote, invest, and talk about any token or cryptocoin because is a scam, believe me I would never invest, promote and talk about any of the tokens and cryptocoins that are out there, because everyone one of them was called at some point a scam.

If my negative trust is still about the signature structure, please send a link so I could see all the signature structures, and I will modify it in such a way that it will not look as any of them, or tell me what to do with it not to look "identical" with the owned one. (Don't say delete - read above)

Now this a example so you could understand how things work in the real world, if you own color ferrari red which is: #ff2800 and if I want to use #ff2800 I have to ask you for permission, and if you say no I won't use it but if I have color #ff2802 that is no more ferrari red, it's another color that you don't own. That's how pattern work in real life. In this case I really don't think that Alttradex (if he used other person's signature), is identical with the other one. I really really really can not believe that. It has  another color or something, it has many more letters, is has a different content, it has different structure, then it's another structure for signature then his has to be allowed to use it.

But for the sake of my mind, please tell me if this signature that I use now has a different structure then before, and if it does please remove the negative trust, because I did what you asked, and if it's still same structure, please send me a link where I could find owned signatures and  I will try to have one that is not similar in any way with another one from your list.

Thank you

[jayce]

Look man, I thought that this is about the signature structure, which I don't understand how a signature structure can be owned by anyone - if there is this rule, please send a link to all the signatures owned by anyone so I could do something to the signature not to look as the same as anyone else's.

He edited my design, not created the new one. If he made the new signature himself, then the possibility his design will look identical with the others is very low.

This is a legit a project project in my opinion, and I want to be a part of it by promoting them in my signature - which I will change it so it will look different and still promote Alttradex. If you have a different opinion about their project that's yours, and I would like to thank you for your concern, but I'm ok. If I would take advice from everyone not to promote, invest, and talk about any token or cryptocoin because is a scam, believe me I would never invest, promote and talk about any of the tokens and cryptocoins that are out there, because everyone one of them was called at some point a scam.

Tbh I didnt care if his project is legit or not, but his own unprofessional and childish action when handling a complain made people here investigated his project and pinkman12345 brought us a solid proof (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2367257.msg24246444#msg24246444).

Look at his response before pinkman12345 showed the proof:

Our smart contract is not copied from anyone so your credibility just went down the drain.
...

And his excuse after the proof;

I will put my hands up to that and say I was not aware we used part of the First Blood code, Aleksej did all of the work on it.  Either way, I believe it is open sourced and there is no issue with using it.
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I guess you have invested some amount of money on this project, and well, if you still believe in him, it's okay. You take your own risk. People here just trying to prevent any scam on this forum. But please note my main purpose opening this thread is the signature design, not to prove if his design is scam or not. If he handled this issue with a professional way from the beginning, then nobody will suspect his project.

If my negative trust is still about the signature structure, please send a link so I could see all the signature structures, and I will modify it in such a way that it will not look as any of them, or tell me what to do with it not to look "identical" with the owned one. (Don't say delete - read above)

By just changing the position? You should create the new one.

Now this a example so you could understand how things work in the real world, if you own color ferrari red which is: #ff2800 and if I want to use #ff2800 I have to ask you for permission, and if you say no I won't use it but if I have color #ff2802 that is no more ferrari red, it's another color that you don't own. That's how pattern work in real life.

He uses my design by modifying it little, and he didnt ask permission. He doesnt understand how things work in real life right?

In this case I really don't think that Alttradex (if he used other person's signature), is identical with the other one. I really really really can not believe that. It has  another color or something, it has many more letters, is has a different content, it has different structure, then it's another structure for signature then his has to be allowed to use it.

Different structure? He just removed some part, changed the words and colors. Have you checked the code yourself?

But for the sake of my mind, please tell me if this signature that I use now has a different structure then before, and if it does please remove the negative trust, because I did what you asked, and if it's still same structure, please send me a link where I could find owned signatures and  I will try to have one that is not similar in any way with another one from your list.

Thank you

If you want a different structure, just create the new one.

[ElPedras]

Please send me a link to the rule that I broke to deserve the negative trust.

I really have to see I didn't respect that rule, because if I did, I promise you I will not say anything again. But if that rule exists then it has to be another rule about the usage of signature, then you'll have to give me 2 links, first with the rule that I have broke by having the signature, and the rule that this signature is yours, and no one is allowed to use it.

I tend to repeat myself, but if I messed up any of these rules I'm really sorry, and I will do what is necessary to modify the signature.

If there is no such rules and you just invent them as you go, because it's in your interest, and you have the power, and no one can do anything about it, then... it's like I said before: this is a abusive action from Lauda, and I the OPs should see that this is a invention and remove my negative trust.

OPs you are here to make sure that everyone respects the rules of this forum. PLEASE show me the rule that I'm not allowed to have this signature, and show me all the other signatures that I'm not allowed to have.

Thanks

[jayce]

Please send me a link to the rule that I broke to deserve the negative trust.

I really have to see I didn't respect that rule, because if I did, I promise you I will not say anything again. But if that rule exists then it has to be another rule about the usage of signature, then you'll have to give me 2 links, first with the rule that I have broke by having the signature, and the rule that this signature is yours, and no one is allowed to use it.

I tend to repeat myself, but if I messed up any of these rules I'm really sorry, and I will do what is necessary to modify the signature.

If there is no such rules and you just invent them as you go, because it's in your interest, and you have the power, and no one can do anything about it, then... it's like I said before: this is a abusive action from Lauda, and I the OPs should see that this is a invention and remove my negative trust.

OPs you are here to make sure that everyone respects the rules of this forum. PLEASE show me the rule that I'm not allowed to have this signature, and show me all the other signatures that I'm not allowed to have.

Thanks

I have explained everything on my post above, and I dont give you negative trust. Look, you have stated yourself:

Now this a example so you could understand how things work in the real world, if you own color ferrari red which is: #ff2800 and if I want to use #ff2800 I have to ask you for permission, and if you say no I won't use it but if I have color #ff2802 that is no more ferrari red, it's another color that you don't own. That's how pattern work in real life.

You know that if you want to use other people's work, then you have to ask for permission, thats how things work in the real world right? And now, this guy doesnt do that. So you basically just ask me to show which rule that supports your own words?

[Lauda]

I have explained everything on my post above, and I dont give you negative trust.

He doesn't even know the basic difference between the trust system and the forum rules, yet he keeps playing the "I know what abuse is" card. Therefore, you're just wasting your time with him. Just put him on ignore.

[ElPedras]

Now this a example so you could understand how things work in the real world, if you own color ferrari red which is: #ff2800 and if I want to use #ff2800 I have to ask you for permission, and if you say no I won't use it but if I have color #ff2802 that is no more ferrari red, it's another color that you don't own. That's how pattern work in real life.

You know that if you want to use other people's work, then you have to ask for permission, thats how things work in the real world right? And now, this guy doesnt do that. So you basically just ask me to show which rule that supports your own words?
[/quote]

You understood the wrong thing from my example:
In my example your signature was color #ff2800 and what I have now it's #ff2802 It has something from your signature (I never saw it), but it has all different characteristics and that makes it unique.
Example: You can not expect that if you are typing "XJY" to your signature and if I'm typing "JXY.w" to my signature, you can not say that it's still yours just because it has the same 3 letters in different order.
Another example, if you invent scratching your back with right hand, and I use the left hand to do it, both actions have the same result, but it's not your invention because I use it differently then you have used it.
I don't know how many examples I can give you to make you understand that maybe it has some of your design (again, I never saw your signature), but I'm sure that it has some different futures, so it's unique.

I have explained everything on my post above, and I dont give you negative trust.

He doesn't even know the basic difference between the trust system and the forum rules, yet he keeps playing the "I know what abuse is" card. Therefore, you're just wasting your time with him. Just put him on ignore.

As a OP you can not pick sides. As a OP you give negative trust to those who you worked with, not other ppl. You are confusing being a member and being OP. If you want to be OP do your thing as OP, but don't use the same user for member and OP because you are bending the rules in your favor. And that's why it's a abusive action.
When you talk about trust system of this forum there is a big difference between a negative trust that someone from the community gave you, that you had business with, and there is another thing when a OP is giving you a negative trust, when you didn't had any connection with that OP. Like in my case.
I partially understand the negatives for Alttradex, it's your opinion - you had interactions with him, it's kind of he said, she said... but when it comes to me, there is a big difference I just participate in a Signature Bounty.

If a whatever member of this forum gave me a negative trust, well that is his opinion, and if I screwed him over (which I never I will) I would deserve it, but when a OP gives you a negative trust, everyone will understand that I had business with you, which I didn't, and for sure I will never have. (you have the tendency to bend the rules in your favor, and I don't trust you)

[jayce]

So if you take Nike's logo and change its color, then the logo will be yours? Well Lauda is right, discussing it with you is really wasting my time.

[U2016]

The guy who runs trading project is a scammer kralle.

[ElPedras]

So if you take Nike's logo and change its color, then the logo will be yours? Well Lauda is right, discussing it with you is really wasting my time.

If you take Nike logo cut it in 3 and from those 3 pieces you a new form with new color and add something that's yours, yes it's yours.

Mate, let me make myself clear: I'm here not to defend Alttradex, I'm just saying what I think about this signature debate.
I'm here because I got negative trust for using a signature, and if I delete the signature, I will not be paid, if I will be paid I have this negative trust.

I'm collateral in others war.

I just want just to have removed the negative trust, and I'm doing all that I can to do so.

[Aventhe]

On top of that, you decide to give us negative trust when you really have nothing to do with any of this. 

Where did I do this??

Just a sad loser jumping on the bandwagon thinking you will earn points with idiots like Lauda and the rest

I have a right to my own opinion, and when it comes morals, I would agree and trust Lauda. It's not a basis of jumping on the bandwagon. What you are saying is that everyone who disagrees with you is only doing that because they just want to be on Lauda's side? Sad....

And now you won't change the signatures at all, how very professional..

[actmyname]

So if you take Nike's logo and change its color, then the logo will be yours? Well Lauda is right, discussing it with you is really wasting my time.

If you take Nike logo cut it in 3 and from those 3 pieces you a new form with new color and add something that's yours, yes it's yours.

This is essentially what you're doing: