Are 1070 TI's the next best GPU for mining? 4.7 sols per watt

[VoskCoin]

Hello Vosk
don't you have an overheating issue because your card a really close one to each other?
actually it is not quite good, in my build I leave space about 3-4 sm between cards so there will be better air circulation

That's a big reason why I've been building out into bigger rigs

Speaking of bigger rigs, we built the 6x 1070 TI rig pushing a stable 3000 sols
https://youtu.be/QBmZG4pnr6A

[VoskCoin]

Testing out the Zotac 1070 TI Mini, pretty sweet for only $50 more give or take on that figure, same price as the non TI used to be during the massive price gouge era

When you going to build a 4 card VEGA rig and put a vid?

Whenever theyre $400 again T_T

[VoskCoin]

You`re hooked man, no escaping now from the minning addiction lol! Anyway, i like your videos, like your passion and dedication. Keep up the faith and the riches shall come!  

haha yeah there's no turning back now xD I appreciate that man thank you and thanks for watching // hopefully for all of us

[VoskCoin]

Is there any degrade in hash performance with the mini's 1070ti vs standard 1070ti?  Is their degrade in cooling?  I am getting my 1070 ti msi titantiums this friday, can't wait to give it a spin.

Not that I've noticed but its not a direct comparison because the rigs theyre on are a bit different, if you're going max ROI I would rec the mini's
https://goo.gl/9BZPPm

[toptek]

I'm buying one of these next week from EVGA using Affirm

https://www.affirm.com/

as payment .....

[VoskCoin]

I still think its better to buy 1080 ti instead , you might be giving up some /little efficency for the density but in the end you are going for long yerm benefit , because these will still stand there fround against next gen gpus and hence price fall wont be that much for resale and 1080 ti just sounds much cooler than a 1070ti :p , But yeah this. Efficency is a good step

1070 ti is gddr5

1080/1080 ti is gddr5x ---> this generation or memory may bring future advantages

regarding density 1070 ti is not very far from 1080 ti, 1060 is ...

anyway density is efficiency too..lets say a 5x 1080 ti rig is ~3500 sols that is a 7x 1070 ti rig, the point is if your motherboards is 5x pcie, you need another board/system to put the 2x 1070 ti, additional system power consumption reduces overall efficiency.

assuming space is not a problem, but for home based miners with a room/basement allocated to mining (limited space) density is a must.

Can you elaborate about the future advantages of gddr5x for mining / resale?
A gist of my understanding is just that it's lower power consumption for a higher bandwidth

[VoskCoin]

Great post, This is definitely the card's i will end up with once i expand my mining a bit.

thanks my friend, nice post your rig here/stats when its finished

[VoskCoin]

I just built a 7 Card - EVGA GTX 1070 ti - rig.  What settings did you use from quint? 

This is a quote of Quintleo's post

Got a suprise this morning - my EVGA SC 1070 ti was on my doorstep when I wasn't expecting it 'till Monday.

 I had already installed the latest 388.13 drivers on my Win7 single-slot "test rig" machine while doing some testing on a new 1080 ti earlier this week, so the test rig was ready to go.
 I HAVE noticed some sluggishness on this machine, but it's a low-end Athlon 5050E dual core with 2 GB of ram so that's not unusual on it (machine was a LOT snappier on XP back in the day).
 Testing on this rig was done in an A/C environment at 80F give or take a degree.

 First thing I notice - the memory clock is WAY LOW, 7600 base clock for some reason. Due to that, this is the first EVGA card I can crank up to "+700" memory in Afterburner and actually have it work - as that's only 9000 actual EFFECTIVE memory clock.
 Boost is NOT limited to the "factory spec" numbers - it's like any other 1070/1080/1080ti it'll boost as high as the power settings and temp let it.
 Default TDP is 180 watts, same as a base 1080 or some higher-TDP 1070 models.
 Another odd thing - Afterburner will let me OVERVOLT the card, but it won't let me UNDERVOLT it at all.

 Did some testing on a copy of Genoil I had left over on that machine from ETH mining days - meh, pretty much the same as a 1070, obviously ETH is seriously memory limited on this card (not unexpected given other widespread reporting).

 Moved to ZEC testing with EBWF.
 Testing methodology - make a change in Afterburner, wait *at least* 2 rounds of EWBF stats posted, THEN average the next 3 stat rounds for the posted numbers.

 At stock settings (except for using my "standard" Afterburner fan profile):
 Hashrate settles in at about 467 sol/s with VERY little variation with the wattage figure in EWBF bouncing between 168 and 180 watts most of the time for an efficiency around 2.6-2.7 range.
 Core is boosting to 1848 Mhz pretty much as a straight line, 62-63C at 64-66% fan.
 Memory rock solid at "3798" (effective 7596).

 Crank the memory up to +700 in Afterburner no other changes:
 Hashrate settles in around 525 sol/s with noticeable variation, power however is pretty solid at 180 watts for efficiency at a little over 2.9
 Core is boosting to between 1810 and 1823 with a lot of bounce between those figures, temp 64C at 68% fan.
 Memory is rock solid at "4498" (effective 8996) and STAYS that way in the rest of the "+700 memory" testing.

 Dial in +200 core clock in Afterburner:
 Hashrate settles in to about 538 sol/s with some variation, power pretty solid at 180, efficiency a bit over 3.
 Core is bouncing some, mostly 1987 with lows down to 1967 and occasional bounces up to 2000. I forgot to check temps, think they bounced up to 65C at 70% fan or so.

 Drop TDP to 90% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate at 540 sol/s and pretty SOLID, power solid at 161 watts for efficiency at 3.38 - and yes, the average hashrate DID GO UP A HAIR vs 100% TDP.
 Core is bouncing 1911 and 1924 with an occasional 1898 or 1937, temp drops to 63C at 66% fan
 
 Drop TDP to 80% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate finally drops to 529 sol/s pretty solid, power pretty solid at 146, efficiency pretty solid at 3.64
 Core bouncing a lot, 1810 to 1873 range, Temp to 60C at 60% fan.

 Drop TDP to 70% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate to 509 sol/s but bouncing some, power pretty solid at 126 watts for efficiency of appx 3.96 with one reading above 4 (517 sol/s)
 Core bouncing in the 1709 to 1759 range, temp 56C at 52% fan.

 Drop TDP to 60% in Afterburner (WATCH THESE FIGURES):
 Hashrate 457 sol/s pretty stable, 103 solid watts, 4.46 efficiency.
 Core bouncing in the 1557 to 1607 range, temp 54C at 48% fan.

 This would be a VERY NICE setting to run a quiet multi-card rig in your BEDROOM, I have to put my head less than 2 feet from the GPU fans to hear them AT ALL.
 This is also THE highest efficiency figure I've seen to date out of ANY card I've owned, and I don't remember seeing a better figure reported (though I might have missed or forgotten a slightly better reported figure somewhere).


 Drop TDP to 50% in Afterburner:
 Core clock drops to under 1200 and the hashrate drops so far the efficiency gets WORSE. Don't go this low on this card.

[dagarair]

Sweet!  Set it at
+700
+200
TDP 80

All 7 cards running at 3600 sols

[R0mi]

I have been buying 1060's for their efficiency and lower price point. I might try to do a new rig soon with the 1070Ti's as I value power efficiency over raw hash rate after reading through these results.

Anyone manage to tweak their 1070 TI to the point of a 5 sols per watts efficiency level yet?

 Not me - seems like the peak efficiency point is VERY VERY close to that 60% point I came up with (and others have also independently determined).

Thanks very much for that post.  In a mixed Nvidia rig, not seeing quite 4.7 Sols/w, but better than the 1070 in every way.  And except for density, I would prefer it to 1080 Ti.

[Keninishna]

Am I missing something here? I'm checking profit calculations on whattomine.com and the ROI for the 1070ti is somewhere over 6 months even if I set the hash to 500 sol at 110 watts, while rx580 ROI in little over 4 months.

[R0mi]

Am I missing something here? I'm checking profit calculations on whattomine.com and the ROI for the 1070ti is somewhere over 6 months even if I set the hash to 500 sol at 110 watts, while rx580 ROI in little over 4 months.

Mining what coins on each card?  What are you comparing?

[QuintLeo]

Am I missing something here? I'm checking profit calculations on whattomine.com and the ROI for the 1070ti is somewhere over 6 months even if I set the hash to 500 sol at 110 watts, while rx580 ROI in little over 4 months.

Mining what coins on each card?  What are you comparing?

 And what price are you assuming on the RX 580 vs the GTX 1070 ti?

[Keninishna]

Am I missing something here? I'm checking profit calculations on whattomine.com and the ROI for the 1070ti is somewhere over 6 months even if I set the hash to 500 sol at 110 watts, while rx580 ROI in little over 4 months.

Mining what coins on each card?  What are you comparing?

 And what price are you assuming on the RX 580 vs the GTX 1070 ti?

Am I missing something here? I'm checking profit calculations on whattomine.com and the ROI for the 1070ti is somewhere over 6 months even if I set the hash to 500 sol at 110 watts, while rx580 ROI in little over 4 months.

Mining what coins on each card?  What are you comparing?

According to whattomine.com the 580 would be mining electroneum and etherium. The price I saw for it was $200 on newegg. For the 1070ti price I saw was $450 and would be mining neoscrypt or equihash. My calculations could be a bit off but so far it seems the 580 would ROI faster?

[wacko]

The price I saw for it was $200 on newegg. For the 1070ti price I saw was $450 and would be mining neoscrypt or equihash. My calculations could be a bit off but so far it seems the 580 would ROI faster?

RX 580 cards start from $250 on newegg, and that's for the most basic 4gb versions. Decent cards with decent coolers are closer to $300, and the 8gb versions are more than $300. Current high profits from these Polaris cards are all from ETN, which is a new coin that might go down really fast. After that it's back to ETH, and you're not likely to get 30 MH/s (as whattomine suggests when you select rx 580) from the cheapest 4gb rx 580 cards cause these days they often ship with weak hynix and elpida memory chips that you're lucky to get 27-28 MH/s from. So it's less than $1.5 a day per card.

[QuintLeo]

The price I saw for it was $200 on newegg. For the 1070ti price I saw was $450 and would be mining neoscrypt or equihash. My calculations could be a bit off but so far it seems the 580 would ROI faster?

RX 580 cards start from $250 on newegg, and that's for the most basic 4gb versions. Decent cards with decent coolers are closer to $300, and the 8gb versions are more than $300. Current high profits from these Polaris cards are all from ETN, which is a new coin that might go down really fast. After that it's back to ETH, and you're not likely to get 30 MH/s (as whattomine suggests when you select rx 580) from the cheapest 4gb rx 580 cards cause these days they often ship with weak hynix and elpida memory chips that you're lucky to get 27-28 MH/s from. So it's less than $1.5 a day per card.

 Some of the 570 cards have been hitting $229 on Newegg, but nothing consistantly below that other than refurbs or open boxes - so far.

 Might change over the next month though, AMD card pricing IS dropping slowly.

 You CAN get the Sapphire "mining" 470 cards pretty consistantly at $260 or $279 - seems like ONE of the models is always in stock lately - and those have VERY good cooling.

 4GB cards you're doing good to get to 28 Mhash/sec on ETH AFTER a BIOS mod - doesn't matter if it's 470 480 570 or 580 on that.

 The other thing to keep in mind - the BLUE WHALE in the room - is that ETH goes Proof of Stake sometime next year if they stay on their current plan or semi-close - at which point profitability of pretty much ALL GPU-mineable coins will quickly collapse as those 4 MILLION or so cards currently mining ETH (mostly AMD) look for new homes.

 On the plus side, card prices on AMD cards should ALSO collapse at that point as a lot of "marginal" miners find out that they're unprofitable and end up dumping used cards.

[Keninishna]

The price I saw for it was $200 on newegg. For the 1070ti price I saw was $450 and would be mining neoscrypt or equihash. My calculations could be a bit off but so far it seems the 580 would ROI faster?

RX 580 cards start from $250 on newegg, and that's for the most basic 4gb versions. Decent cards with decent coolers are closer to $300, and the 8gb versions are more than $300. Current high profits from these Polaris cards are all from ETN, which is a new coin that might go down really fast. After that it's back to ETH, and you're not likely to get 30 MH/s (as whattomine suggests when you select rx 580) from the cheapest 4gb rx 580 cards cause these days they often ship with weak hynix and elpida memory chips that you're lucky to get 27-28 MH/s from. So it's less than $1.5 a day per card.

 Some of the 570 cards have been hitting $229 on Newegg, but nothing consistantly below that other than refurbs or open boxes - so far.

 Might change over the next month though, AMD card pricing IS dropping slowly.

 You CAN get the Sapphire "mining" 470 cards pretty consistantly at $260 or $279 - seems like ONE of the models is always in stock lately - and those have VERY good cooling.

 4GB cards you're doing good to get to 28 Mhash/sec on ETH AFTER a BIOS mod - doesn't matter if it's 470 480 570 or 580 on that.

 The other thing to keep in mind - the BLUE WHALE in the room - is that ETH goes Proof of Stake sometime next year if they stay on their current plan or semi-close - at which point profitability of pretty much ALL GPU-mineable coins will quickly collapse as those 4 MILLION or so cards currently mining ETH (mostly AMD) look for new homes.

 On the plus side, card prices on AMD cards should ALSO collapse at that point as a lot of "marginal" miners find out that they're unprofitable and end up dumping used cards.

Yeah the whole eth imploding the gpu coins is a bit scary and is probably going to deter me from buying more cards for the moment but another card with a promising ROI is the Vega 56 cards able to push 2000 khs on xmr which puts it close to $5 a day if my calcs are right.

[flip4flop]

Set up my EVGA 1070 Ti this afternoon (Micron memory  )and adjusted settings to 80% TDP +200 Core +600 memory.  Ran fine with about 525-530 sol/s for about 45 mins then artifacted on me on and crashed system as my monitor was hooked up to this.  This something I should RMA if it happens again?

[grendel25]

Could someone PM me or post a link to how the USB 3.0 risers work?  I picked up a few a while back and I've never seen them work.  Is it a BIOS setting thing or drivers?  idk...  thx for any advice

[grendel25]

The price I saw for it was $200 on newegg. For the 1070ti price I saw was $450 and would be mining neoscrypt or equihash. My calculations could be a bit off but so far it seems the 580 would ROI faster?

RX 580 cards start from $250 on newegg, and that's for the most basic 4gb versions. Decent cards with decent coolers are closer to $300, and the 8gb versions are more than $300. Current high profits from these Polaris cards are all from ETN, which is a new coin that might go down really fast. After that it's back to ETH, and you're not likely to get 30 MH/s (as whattomine suggests when you select rx 580) from the cheapest 4gb rx 580 cards cause these days they often ship with weak hynix and elpida memory chips that you're lucky to get 27-28 MH/s from. So it's less than $1.5 a day per card.

 Some of the 570 cards have been hitting $229 on Newegg, but nothing consistantly below that other than refurbs or open boxes - so far.

 Might change over the next month though, AMD card pricing IS dropping slowly.

 You CAN get the Sapphire "mining" 470 cards pretty consistantly at $260 or $279 - seems like ONE of the models is always in stock lately - and those have VERY good cooling.

 4GB cards you're doing good to get to 28 Mhash/sec on ETH AFTER a BIOS mod - doesn't matter if it's 470 480 570 or 580 on that.

 The other thing to keep in mind - the BLUE WHALE in the room - is that ETH goes Proof of Stake sometime next year if they stay on their current plan or semi-close - at which point profitability of pretty much ALL GPU-mineable coins will quickly collapse as those 4 MILLION or so cards currently mining ETH (mostly AMD) look for new homes.

 On the plus side, card prices on AMD cards should ALSO collapse at that point as a lot of "marginal" miners find out that they're unprofitable and end up dumping used cards.

Yeah the whole eth imploding the gpu coins is a bit scary and is probably going to deter me from buying more cards for the moment but another card with a promising ROI is the Vega 56 cards able to push 2000 khs on xmr which puts it close to $5 a day if my calcs are right.

Don't worry, there is enough nostalgic romance longing for the days of mining bitcoin with GPUs that GPUs will never go out of style.  Remember, we are in nerd heaven and nerd heaven will always have miners with GPUs!