Are 1070 TI's the next best GPU for mining? 4.7 sols per watt

[martyroz]

Here's a relevant example;

In Australia, cheapest (in stock) cards;

1070 = $415 (Galax Katana)
1070ti = $503 (Galax Sniper)
1080 = $532 (Galax OR Zotac Mini)
1080ti = $760 (Galax EXOC)
Vega56 = $555 (Gigabyte)

Clearly the 1070 and 1080 are pretty good buys compared to the rest. What would you go for?
I'm thinking a 1080 build. Does the Zotac Mini perform ok?

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[QuintLeo]

Zotac Mini in the 1070ti or 1080 models (I don't have their 1070 mini and I have severe worry issues about cooling on the 1080 ti model) both work quite well - but I have no idea if the fans are ball-bearing so I'm not buying any more.

 1080 is a little marginal on cooling if you push it but better than the blower-type cards by a nose, I've never pushed the 1070 ti version but it should be a tossup on cooling with the 1080 model given the identical TDP.

[R0mi]

In my case, I've stopped even LOOKING at Gigabyte cards except the Aorus - way too many "dead fan" issues on cards at or a bit less than a year old, and had 2 of the ITX cards die on me last month.

 They really got cheap on their fans - you have to BREAK the things open to even fix them as they don't have "oil covers" in the back like MOST sleeve bearing designs do and they are held together by a "sonic welded" piece.

 I suspect I just found new long-term homes for the left-overs of the big batch of 92mm NMB Boxer fans I got at a hamfest years ago - which happen to soak the same .35 amps of the cheap Gigabyte fans, but I only need *2* of the NMBs for good cooling vs. 2 or 3 on the Windforce cards I have....


 BTW - I blame Voskcoin's video for NewEgg being out of the EVGA SC 1070 ti right now.

 8-P

Gigabyte Aorus 1080 Ti Extreme edition - they've worked well me.  They fit in 4U builds, hash rate is good, fans works well.  And you get a LED light show at night...

Only Gigabyte card I've ever used, but I like them.

[martyroz]

Zotac Mini in the 1070ti or 1080 models (I don't have their 1070 mini and I have severe worry issues about cooling on the 1080 ti model) both work quite well - but I have no idea if the fans are ball-bearing so I'm not buying any more.

 1080 is a little marginal on cooling if you push it but better than the blower-type cards by a nose, I've never pushed the 1070 ti version but it should be a tossup on cooling with the 1080 model given the identical TDP.

I just saw a VoskCoin video where his 6 * Zotac 1080 mini manage 3,000 sols (500 sols each). Does this seem a bit low compared to a 1070ti?

[btcneodev]

Yes, I also suggested to go 1080 instead of 1070ti, 1070ti has no surprise in pricing and performance. Or maybe it is good to wait for P104-100, it should be available by this month.

[QuintLeo]

I suspect the Extreme model is a waste of money on the Aorus - but I do have a few of the non-extreme 1080 ti models, one more on order, and I figure on ending up with about 5 of them in the medium term (one in my gaming machine, 4 to go with my EVGA SC 1080 ti and Gigabyte Windforce 1080 ti models in the B250 Pro short-term build).
 Good cards, BALL BEARING fans unlike the rest of the Gigabyte recent line, and very nice cooling.
 Even at best efficiency though, they're only about 4.1-4.2 range as opposed to the 1070 ti routinely exceeding 4.4 at best efficiency settings - works out a LITTLE closer at total system draw, but still loses by a bit.
 I am considering building a couple rigs with 2 of them and 2 1070 ti cards though, for use on the EVGA G2 850 power supply since it doesn't have as many connectors as the Seasonc X-850 or SS-860 but those power supplies are getting to be VERY hard to find and expen$ive.
 They'll still work well in my new "shelf-rack" setup as I can space the risers out more with 1 less card to split the space between - or I put 2 cards on the MB and only 2 on risers and place the MB between the PS and the 2 riser-mounted cards should also work, though it would be tighter.

 1080 even if you push the hash does not do 10% more than the 1070 ti - but it tends to COST 10% more.

 If you run them at their most efficient point, the 1080 is a waste - I've tested a few of them now and only the Zotac and EVGA SC models of the 1080 can match hashrate with my EVGA and Zotac 1070 ti cards - the Gigabytes are all 20-30 sol/s LOWER at their max efficiency point.
 1070 ti and 1080 ti max efficiency power point is pretty much identical in my testing - so for a MAX EFFICIENCY build the 1080 is a total waste of money vs the 1070 ti.

 500 sol/s out of a Zotac 1080 was running 70-75% TDP for good efficiency, NOT pushing for high hashrate - which he's mentioned he aims for with his limits on electric.


 Where is there any link to the P104-100 actually showing up at all?
 Last I heard it had died a quiet "nobody interested" death due to gouge pricing dying down.

[Quubik]

So played around with one today. ROG Strix 1070ti with Micron memory.

http://i67.tinypic.com/16bbuzc.jpg

[QuintLeo]

So played around with one today. ROG Strix 1070ti with Micron memory.

 You're running it around 125 watt level?

 Posting hashrates with no setting info is .... kinda useless.

[Quubik]

So played around with one today. ROG Strix 1070ti with Micron memory.

 You're running it around 125 watt level?

 Posting hashrates with no setting info is .... kinda useless.

Yeah sorry I dint have a wattmeter between at that moment and ment to edit it in a minute later but then life happened  


System idle is 29W and mining is 150-151w so around 120w.

+699 memory
1847-1896mhz core with a custom curve.
70% power

[Ryuh]

Thanks for the videos and the good info, learned a lot from you when i was young grasshopper and did not understand mining at all.

[Quubik]

Also possible - 490sols @ 95W / 4.95sol per W  

http://i66.tinypic.com/2ewf8d1.jpg

[nedc]

What to choose Asus Rog Strix 1070ti or Evga 1070ti SC?

[QuintLeo]

So played around with one today. ROG Strix 1070ti with Micron memory.

 You're running it around 125 watt level?

 Posting hashrates with no setting info is .... kinda useless.

Yeah sorry I dint have a wattmeter between at that moment and ment to edit it in a minute later but then life happened  


System idle is 29W and mining is 150-151w so around 120w.

+699 memory
1847-1896mhz core with a custom curve.
70% power

 70% power on every 1070 ti model I am aware of is 126 watts.

 I'm good. 9-)

[QuintLeo]

What to choose Asus Rog Strix 1070ti or Evga 1070ti SC?

If the Strix uses ball bearing fans and is less expensive than the EVGA, I'd probably go with the Strix.

[VoskCoin]

Zotac Mini in the 1070ti or 1080 models (I don't have their 1070 mini and I have severe worry issues about cooling on the 1080 ti model) both work quite well - but I have no idea if the fans are ball-bearing so I'm not buying any more.

 1080 is a little marginal on cooling if you push it but better than the blower-type cards by a nose, I've never pushed the 1070 ti version but it should be a tossup on cooling with the 1080 model given the identical TDP.

I just saw a VoskCoin video where his 6 * Zotac 1080 mini manage 3,000 sols (500 sols each). Does this seem a bit low compared to a 1070ti?

DSTM makes a big difference in pushing these numbers further



Speaking of my latest 1070 TI must have different memory than the one I had to sample because my latest batch is not performing as well

currently have it at 200 core 700 mem and 120 watts on DSTM pushing about 4 sols per watt

[VoskCoin]

In my case, I've stopped even LOOKING at Gigabyte cards except the Aorus - way too many "dead fan" issues on cards at or a bit less than a year old, and had 2 of the ITX cards die on me last month.

 They really got cheap on their fans - you have to BREAK the things open to even fix them as they don't have "oil covers" in the back like MOST sleeve bearing designs do and they are held together by a "sonic welded" piece.

 I suspect I just found new long-term homes for the left-overs of the big batch of 92mm NMB Boxer fans I got at a hamfest years ago - which happen to soak the same .35 amps of the cheap Gigabyte fans, but I only need *2* of the NMBs for good cooling vs. 2 or 3 on the Windforce cards I have....


 BTW - I blame Voskcoin's video for NewEgg being out of the EVGA SC 1070 ti right now.

 8-P

hahaha dont you put this on me xD

[VoskCoin]

Anyone managed to take the settings further with even better results / esp on linux?

[East113]

Anyone managed to take the settings further with even better results / esp on linux?

I was getting 520-530 @110watts and I'm unsure on settings due to it not being very stable, haven't tried with more power though. This was on the EVGA models.

Been busy trying to get SMOS working properly before pushing more. Currently at 500 avg on each of my 3 cards. So not sure if its worth squeezing any little bit more out. 

Have you had SMOS site say a rig was offline but the rig still be mining to pool fine? Mining ZEN on Suprnova.

[NameTaken]

At this point I'm waiting for mainstream Volta mid next year instead of buying more Pascal.

[Zaanda]

warren buffet eat my gfx card