Are 1070 TI's the next best GPU for mining? 4.7 sols per watt

[thepressure]

How do you adjust the power limit as a percentage, I'm using simple mining os and the only power limit options I have myself are the actual wattage draw.  Do I just run these at maximum and then backwardsly work out the percentage ?

[Lostpike]

So it looks like the price of the 1070s is the same price as 1070 Ti.  Is there any more that's better than the others or any that I should just avoid?

[gotminer]

When you're calculating 110w per card, is that with everything else factored in and measuring power consumption at the wall?

 110 watts as set as the power limit under Linux using Nvidia-settings, or reported by nvidia-smi in either Linux or Windows (or calculated from the %TDP setting in something like Afterburner).

 At the wall will vary more due to power supply efficiency curves.

Thank you! Thank you!  nvidia-smi is showing 107W-110W on each gpu.

[gotminer]

So it looks like the price of the 1070s is the same price as 1070 Ti.  Is there any more that's better than the others or any that I should just avoid?

Read through this entire thread and there is another 1070ti thread that I've been watching too.  From what I have gathered, the fans are not up to par on the Gigabyte 1070ti's and I'm also staying away from the Zotac cards.  Vosk has some Zotac rigs running, but I think he said that they were not performing as well as others that he has tested.  That may just be the mini's ... Can't remember.  There is also some question about the fans in the Zotac cards.  That could also just be the mini's.  Not 100% certain.  But seriously read through these threads.  There is a wealth of information on 1070ti's.

[Alyeska]

How do you adjust the power limit as a percentage, I'm using simple mining os and the only power limit options I have myself are the actual wattage draw.  Do I just run these at maximum and then backwardsly work out the percentage ?

QuintLeo broke the wattage down in another 1070ti thread,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2324651.20

Got a suprise this morning - my EVGA SC 1070 ti was on my doorstep when I wasn't expecting it 'till Monday.

 I had already installed the latest 388.13 drivers on my Win7 single-slot "test rig" machine while doing some testing on a new 1080 ti earlier this week, so the test rig was ready to go.
 I HAVE noticed some sluggishness on this machine, but it's a low-end Athlon 5050E dual core with 2 GB of ram so that's not unusual on it (machine was a LOT snappier on XP back in the day).
 Testing on this rig was done in an A/C environment at 80F give or take a degree.

 First thing I notice - the memory clock is WAY LOW, 7600 base clock for some reason. Due to that, this is the first EVGA card I can crank up to "+700" memory in Afterburner and actually have it work - as that's only 9000 actual EFFECTIVE memory clock.
 Boost is NOT limited to the "factory spec" numbers - it's like any other 1070/1080/1080ti it'll boost as high as the power settings and temp let it.
 Default TDP is 180 watts, same as a base 1080 or some higher-TDP 1070 models.
 Another odd thing - Afterburner will let me OVERVOLT the card, but it won't let me UNDERVOLT it at all.

 Did some testing on a copy of Genoil I had left over on that machine from ETH mining days - meh, pretty much the same as a 1070, obviously ETH is seriously memory limited on this card (not unexpected given other widespread reporting).

 Moved to ZEC testing with EBWF.
 Testing methodology - make a change in Afterburner, wait *at least* 2 rounds of EWBF stats posted, THEN average the next 3 stat rounds for the posted numbers.

 At stock settings (except for using my "standard" Afterburner fan profile):
 Hashrate settles in at about 467 sol/s with VERY little variation with the wattage figure in EWBF bouncing between 168 and 180 watts most of the time for an efficiency around 2.6-2.7 range.
 Core is boosting to 1848 Mhz pretty much as a straight line, 62-63C at 64-66% fan.
 Memory rock solid at "3798" (effective 7596).

 Crank the memory up to +700 in Afterburner no other changes:
 Hashrate settles in around 525 sol/s with noticeable variation, power however is pretty solid at 180 watts for efficiency at a little over 2.9
 Core is boosting to between 1810 and 1823 with a lot of bounce between those figures, temp 64C at 68% fan.
 Memory is rock solid at "4498" (effective 8996) and STAYS that way in the rest of the "+700 memory" testing.

 Dial in +200 core clock in Afterburner:
 Hashrate settles in to about 538 sol/s with some variation, power pretty solid at 180, efficiency a bit over 3.
 Core is bouncing some, mostly 1987 with lows down to 1967 and occasional bounces up to 2000. I forgot to check temps, think they bounced up to 65C at 70% fan or so.

 Drop TDP to 90% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate at 540 sol/s and pretty SOLID, power solid at 161 watts for efficiency at 3.38 - and yes, the average hashrate DID GO UP A HAIR vs 100% TDP.
 Core is bouncing 1911 and 1924 with an occasional 1898 or 1937, temp drops to 63C at 66% fan
 
 Drop TDP to 80% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate finally drops to 529 sol/s pretty solid, power pretty solid at 146, efficiency pretty solid at 3.64
 Core bouncing a lot, 1810 to 1873 range, Temp to 60C at 60% fan.

 Drop TDP to 70% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate to 509 sol/s but bouncing some, power pretty solid at 126 watts for efficiency of appx 3.96 with one reading above 4 (517 sol/s)
 Core bouncing in the 1709 to 1759 range, temp 56C at 52% fan.

 Drop TDP to 60% in Afterburner (WATCH THESE FIGURES):
 Hashrate 457 sol/s pretty stable, 103 solid watts, 4.46 efficiency.
 Core bouncing in the 1557 to 1607 range, temp 54C at 48% fan.

 This would be a VERY NICE setting to run a quiet multi-card rig in your BEDROOM, I have to put my head less than 2 feet from the GPU fans to hear them AT ALL.
 This is also THE highest efficiency figure I've seen to date out of ANY card I've owned, and I don't remember seeing a better figure reported (though I might have missed or forgotten a slightly better reported figure somewhere).


 Drop TDP to 50% in Afterburner:
 Core clock drops to under 1200 and the hashrate drops so far the efficiency gets WORSE. Don't go this low on this card.

As of today I am running 9 GTX 1070ti off of one EVGA 1600 T2 power supply, so my settings in simple miner are as follows,

Core
200,200,200,200,200,200,200,200,200
Memory   
700,700,700,700,700,700,700,700,700
Power Limit
136,136,136,136,136,136,136,136,136    with everything mining away, no monitor or keyboard / mouse attached, I am drawing 1,365 Watts at the wall,

getting around
========== Sol/s: 4548.0 Sol/W: 3.72 Avg: 4536.2 I/s: 2425.8 Sh: 49.35 1.00 209

[QuintLeo]

So it looks like the price of the 1070s is the same price as 1070 Ti.  Is there any more that's better than the others or any that I should just avoid?

Read through this entire thread and there is another 1070ti thread that I've been watching too.  From what I have gathered, the fans are not up to par on the Gigabyte 1070ti's and I'm also staying away from the Zotac cards.  Vosk has some Zotac rigs running, but I think he said that they were not performing as well as others that he has tested.  That may just be the mini's ... Can't remember.  There is also some question about the fans in the Zotac cards.  That could also just be the mini's.  Not 100% certain.  But seriously read through these threads.  There is a wealth of information on 1070ti's.

 The one Zotac Mini model of the 1070 ti for me performed identically to my EVGA SC models, except it runs a little warmer due to the smaller cooling setup.
 I'm not buying more though due to the "sleeve bearing fan" issue - same reason I refuse to buy any more Gigabyte cards except PERHAPS the Aorus.

 The Amp Extreme line from Zotac, like the Aorus line from Gigabyte, does specify "ball bearing" fans - my issue with those is that the power connector setup makes powering multi-cards a lot tougher.

[FloridaCoin]

Rookie observation and question here.

I have been running SMOS with 5 Zotac 1070ti AMP editions (Micron). Today I loaded up windows 10 (1703)(Afterburner)(Nvidia driver 388.71) and ran DSTM and noticed that I was getting about +.2-.4 sol/w difference then I get in SMOS with the same setings. +200core / +700mem / 110w.
In SMOS I am seeing 4.29 to 4.37 sol/w.
In windows I was seeing 4.4 to 4.7 sol/w.

Is it normal to see a performance difference between OS's? Drivers? I was always taught if your going to drive it you need to know how it works, how to fix it and most of all how to make it go faster 

[QuintLeo]

Doesn't SMOS use EBWF not DSTM?

[FloridaCoin]

Doesn't SMOS use EBWF not DSTM?

Simpleminer-NV-v1118-kernel4.11.12-nvidia384.59-noaer has both DSTM v0.5.6 and EWBF-0.3.4b available for use. I was using the latest BBT's Multu-Miner on windows.

[kupejo]

guys im going to make my 2do mining righ, i want to use 5 1070ti x5 but i would like to know what will be the best 1070ti?

my rig so far will have,

board: pro btc +
processor:  Intel Pentium G4600 3.6 LGA 1151 GHz Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80677G4600

havent pick the ram also or the risers.

have this rissers ready to bought.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Z754LT/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B074Z754LT&pd_rd_wg=u0WaI&pd_rd_r=S3C3SMM0T7658CJHBAP4&pd_rd_w=jJZnr

thx for your advice.

[gotminer]

guys im going to make my 2do mining righ, i want to use 5 1070ti x5 but i would like to know what will be the best 1070ti?

my rig so far will have,

board: pro btc +
processor:  Intel Pentium G4600 3.6 LGA 1151 GHz Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80677G4600

havent pick the ram also or the risers.

have this rissers ready to bought.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Z754LT/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B074Z754LT&pd_rd_wg=u0WaI&pd_rd_r=S3C3SMM0T7658CJHBAP4&pd_rd_w=jJZnr

thx for your advice.

If you stay away from Gigabyte and the Zotac Mini's, you'll be in better shape in the long run.  I'm running EVGA FTW2's getting 500 sol/s on each card at 110W.

[QuintLeo]

FTW should be good cards, but the dual power connector makes them harder to deal with in a multi-card rig.

Gotta wonder if EVGA knows why the SC model is such a big hit.....

[gotminer]

FTW should be good cards, but the dual power connector makes them harder to deal with in a multi-card rig.

Gotta wonder if EVGA knows why the SC model is such a big hit.....

What do you think about the splitters that are out there?  I have some coming next week to try out on my rigs with FTW cards.  Do you have any rigs running with them?  I'm curious to know how they hold up in the long term.  I'm also curious to know how the 8-pin to dual 8-pin authentic evga cables (that we discussed in another thread) that came with my 1000W GQ's do in the long term.  And I'm curious to know how my GQ's do in the long term based on what you said in that other thread.  I like EVGA as a brand that I feel like puts out quality products, so I would never think twice about using a cable they made that is 8-pin to dual 8-pin.  I am always skeptical about all of the others.

It's all so much fun though ... In the end, I want every rig that I build to run 24/7/365 without a single issue.  Lol ... That will never happen, but trying and testing and gaining knowledge has so much value, that just makes this stuff fun, in my opinion. 

[QuintLeo]

FTW should be good cards, but the dual power connector makes them harder to deal with in a multi-card rig.

Gotta wonder if EVGA knows why the SC model is such a big hit.....

What do you think about the splitters that are out there?  I have some coming next week to try out on my rigs with FTW cards.  Do you have any rigs running with them?  I'm curious to know how they hold up in the long term.  I'm also curious to know how the 8-pin to dual 8-pin authentic evga cables (that we discussed in another thread) that came with my 1000W GQ's do in the long term.
 

 I don't need splitters on any of my rigs, and I don't see much probability that I'll be using them in the forseeable future.

 I DO have a "2 6-pin to 8-pin" adapter in use on one of my older non-mining rigs, as it has an older PS that didn't have any 8-pin adapters on it but had a pair of 6.
 Been reliable for a couple-three years now, but it's also not exactly stressed running a GTX 960.

 Now that I know what you're talking about, I'm going to point out that those EVGA cables aren't "splitters" as such, they're the original power supply cables for that model of PS - and likely are NOT the same pinout on the input as a PCI-E 8-pin power connector.
 I'd give odds in favor of there being *4* +12VDC pins in use on the "input" end, not the 3 of the PCI-E spec - might possibly be 3 +12VDC pins and a sense line on one side though, where PCI-E uses 3 lines on one side for +12VDC and the 4'th for a spare (and excessively redundant) ground.

[sirbrokealot]

Hi dudes,

i will get three ROG-STRIX-GTX1070TI in couple Days

i almost had to sell my soul for this huge investment..because of Vosc Coin Channel  its debt pay of time now.

also my GF looks at me with that rlly not ok looking face.. ( damn.. please help me out guys )

currently i run a 970 with awesome miner i tried profit switching and tried only Zcoin(1,03mh/s) and only Zcash(285H/s) (@ mining pool hub )-> i had to shut it down -> i was able to get only 1,50$ per day with that card or lower.. whole system draws 145 Watts from the wall ( card draws 93 w  ccminer lyra2z)
How in Earth do they get 2,70$ when using recently hacked nicehash estimator https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-gtx-970?e=0.25&currency=USD

Do you guys get around 4$ per card per day
as recently hacked nicehash claims to get ??->  https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-gtx-1070-ti?e=0.1&currency=USD

Why is profit switching so darn not doin any profit?
do i really have to abandon my 970?

Back in the day´s i played games but now i can't due to 100% gpu load - so be it.

how can i reduce my system wattage of 65 watts further ( no hdd's, 2500k @ 1600 ghz two ram sticks.. ) is this old tech pulling that kind of wattage?
i have a Watt meter connected.

i am scared to be stuck around 2-3$ income per 1070 ti card i pay 0.25 cents per kwh so i am really looking at the efficiency 110W setting if i can manage to get it stable
how much are u getting out of this card and bloddy how?
any general thoughts?


regards

Marco

[gotminer]

Hi dudes,

i will get three ROG-STRIX-GTX1070TI in couple Days

i almost had to sell my soul for this huge investment..because of Vosc Coin Channel  its debt pay of time now.

also my GF looks at me with that rlly not ok looking face.. ( damn.. please help me out guys )

currently i run a 970 with awesome miner i tried profit switching and tried only Zcoin(1,03mh/s) and only Zcash(285H/s) (@ mining pool hub )-> i had to shut it down -> i was able to get only 1,50$ per day with that card or lower.. whole system draws 145 Watts from the wall ( card draws 93 w  ccminer lyra2z)
How in Earth do they get 2,70$ when using recently hacked nicehash estimator https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-gtx-970?e=0.25&currency=USD

Do you guys get around 4$ per card per day
as recently hacked nicehash claims to get ??->  https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-gtx-1070-ti?e=0.1&currency=USD

Why is profit switching so darn not doin any profit?
do i really have to abandon my 970?

Back in the day´s i played games but now i can't due to 100% gpu load - so be it.

how can i reduce my system wattage of 65 watts further ( no hdd's, 2500k @ 1600 ghz two ram sticks.. ) is this old tech pulling that kind of wattage?
i have a Watt meter connected.

i am scared to be stuck around 2-3$ income per 1070 ti card i pay 0.25 cents per kwh so i am really looking at the efficiency 110W setting if i can manage to get it stable
how much are u getting out of this card and bloddy how?
any general thoughts?


regards

Marco

Well ... If I sell my ZEC when it's at a price that can translate into $4 per card per day, I will have made $4 per card per day.  You're electricity is pretty expensive.  Mine is 0.10 cents per kwh.  As far as getting them down to 110W, I tweaked the core clock, memory clock, and power  settings with afterburner.  If you're using a watt meter at the wall, it's going to appear to be around 130-135W per card with the motherboard factored in.  The 110W figure is coming from the nvidia smi tool.  You can run it from the command line.  It's in C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI.

[QuintLeo]

Do you guys get around 4$ per card per day

 Mining ZEC directly via Flypool I'm currently pulling in about $3.75 a day gross on my 1070 ti cards - that is set for around 105 watts on each and pulling 460 sol/s ballpark, +200 core +700 memory on mostly EVGA SC modela and one Zotac Mini.
 The ASUS ROG Strix should be able to match those figures - my only issue with that model is that it doesn't appear to have ball bearing fans (same reason I won't buy any more Zotac mini models).

 At your power cost, that might be the highest-profit setting, though you might be able to get a LITTLE more net profit if you bump your cards up into the 110-120 watt range - efficiency drops but not a LOT, and the additional hashrate might be enough to cover the additional power cost.

 I don't push my cards any harder as I'm starting to run into limits of my infrastructure, NOT because my electric rate is high (it's very LOW).

 GTX 970 is a much lower performance card - if you're managing anything close to $1.50/day gross out of it you're doing good.
 The Nicehash estimator does NOT limit itself to 1 or 2 coins - odds are it was figuring a GTX 970 was more profitable on something like Lyra2rev2 (which often does well on the GTX 9xx generation cards).

 Gotminer's point about "at the wall" draw vs "card" draw is a good one.
 One of the reasons many-card riser rigs are popular is that they REDUCE the overhead power consumption and COST of "the rest of the system" on a per-GPU basis quite a bit vs running 3 or 4 card "no riser" setups - and the riser rigs are a LOT easier to get good cooling to the GPUs.

[Biggen1]

Just wanted to throw my .02 in. Running 6 Asus Rog 1070Ti gpus with the power limit of 130 and a core +200 and mem +700 and getting 500 Sol/s each with Equihash. Running straight Ubuntu with DSTM miner.

Great card. My facility is cool so they all stay under 60C at 25% fan. Can't even hear them running. Got two more on the way to make it an 8 Gpu rig.

[antantti]

Just some random example of shitcoin profits, no sol/s.

https://www.crypto-coinz.net/crypto-calculator/

[annicketucufaw]

Thank you for this post. I want to buy a mining rig and I think I am decided now which gpu to buy. Happy New Year! Continue the work.