Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling

[kibblesnbits]

Let's make sure he has to work real hard to get the chance to pull this shit off again.

to hold an auction?  yeah that will be hard

To hold a successful auction.

Garr forced people to pay a price people were happy to pay. free market wins, people wanted a "deal" did not get it and are fucking shitting themselvez cuz some guy on the internet "tricked" them.

face palm for just about everyone in this thread other than the people who said, yeah garr fucked up but its not the end of the world. he apoligized and paid out so let us move on.

Garr should have set a reserve price instead of the sock shill. 

Two very easy solutions:  no sock puppet bidding, auctioneers use a reserve price.

I was debating on auctioning off my SC Single.  In your logic, I could set it up, let people bid, then have my sock send the bid up to 1000BTC in the last few seconds.  Maybe someone would be desperate enough to outbid me (doubtful).  I win my own auction every single time until I get the price I want.  Why have the auction in the first place?  The entire auction process becomes a giant circle-jerk where the auctioneer sets the price, not the bidders.  That's not how an auction works.

They guy is a child who cant even hold legal binding auctions. And you are bitching he broke some rules some of you thought were real but theymos said were not?

WTF?

Then he certainly isn't old enough to run Cognitive and he double certainly shouldn't be holding onto 250BTC of forum funds.  Which is it?

dont give money to his operation! dont give money to the forum! fuck off you troll!!   free market!

also see this thread and see why theymos has not sent out a scammer tag, BBF shit   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149253.0

No need to get nasty.  I'm trying to figure out the logic.  So your saying that the same person that can't even legally enter into an auction agreement is now running a company?  With shareholders?  And he's got about 25 grand of donations?  Do Cognitive shareholders know this?  You're right on one aspect that a juvenile cannot enter into a binding contract, which means this thing gets fisher with each day.

[ThatDGuy]

Let's make sure he has to work real hard to get the chance to pull this shit off again.

to hold an auction?  yeah that will be hard

To hold a successful auction.

Garr forced people to pay a price people were happy to pay. free market wins, people wanted a "deal" did not get it and are fucking shitting themselvez cuz some guy on the internet "tricked" them.

face palm for just about everyone in this thread other than the people who said, yeah garr fucked up but its not the end of the world. he apoligized and paid out so let us move on.

Garr should have set a reserve price instead of the sock shill.  

Two very easy solutions:  no sock puppet bidding, auctioneers use a reserve price.

I was debating on auctioning off my SC Single.  In your logic, I could set it up, let people bid, then have my sock send the bid up to 1000BTC in the last few seconds.  Maybe someone would be desperate enough to outbid me (doubtful).  I win my own auction every single time until I get the price I want.  Why have the auction in the first place?  The entire auction process becomes a giant circle-jerk where the auctioneer sets the price, not the bidders.  That's not how an auction works.

They guy is a child who cant even hold legal binding auctions. And you are bitching he broke some rules some of you thought were real but theymos said were not?

WTF?

Then he certainly isn't old enough to run Cognitive and he double certainly shouldn't be holding onto 250BTC of forum funds.  Which is it?

dont give money to his operation! dont give money to the forum! fuck off you troll!!   free market!

also see this thread and see why theymos has not sent out a scammer tag, BBF shit   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149253.0

No need to get nasty.  I'm trying to figure out the logic.  So your saying that the same person that can't even legally enter into an auction agreement is now running a company?  With shareholders?  And he's got about 25 grand of donations?  Do Cognitive shareholders know this?  You're right on one aspect that a juvenile cannot enter into a binding contract, which means this thing gets fisher with each day.

Goat is a Cognitive shareholder.  Helps makes sense of the consistent defense of Garr - including the duration of Garr's first lie. attempt to dispute his original confession.

Edit: lie is debatable.

[kibblesnbits]

Let's make sure he has to work real hard to get the chance to pull this shit off again.

to hold an auction?  yeah that will be hard

To hold a successful auction.

Garr forced people to pay a price people were happy to pay. free market wins, people wanted a "deal" did not get it and are fucking shitting themselvez cuz some guy on the internet "tricked" them.

face palm for just about everyone in this thread other than the people who said, yeah garr fucked up but its not the end of the world. he apoligized and paid out so let us move on.

Garr should have set a reserve price instead of the sock shill. 

Two very easy solutions:  no sock puppet bidding, auctioneers use a reserve price.

I was debating on auctioning off my SC Single.  In your logic, I could set it up, let people bid, then have my sock send the bid up to 1000BTC in the last few seconds.  Maybe someone would be desperate enough to outbid me (doubtful).  I win my own auction every single time until I get the price I want.  Why have the auction in the first place?  The entire auction process becomes a giant circle-jerk where the auctioneer sets the price, not the bidders.  That's not how an auction works.

They guy is a child who cant even hold legal binding auctions. And you are bitching he broke some rules some of you thought were real but theymos said were not?

WTF?

Then he certainly isn't old enough to run Cognitive and he double certainly shouldn't be holding onto 250BTC of forum funds.  Which is it?

dont give money to his operation! dont give money to the forum! fuck off you troll!!   free market!

also see this thread and see why theymos has not sent out a scammer tag, BBF shit   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149253.0

No need to get nasty.  I'm trying to figure out the logic.  So your saying that the same person that can't even legally enter into an auction agreement is now running a company?  With shareholders?  And he's got about 25 grand of donations?  Do Cognitive shareholders know this?  You're right on one aspect that a juvenile cannot enter into a binding contract, which means this thing gets fisher with each day.

The funny thing is you are trying to enforce a contract that never was. And even if it was, it can't be enforced.

At this point I honestly think you are just tolling.

How is this trolling?  You brought up the argument that the auction was null and void because he's "a child".  The auction contract maybe invalid, but he still committed auction fraud.  Well, maybe not - these board standards are very confusing to me.  I didn't think I had to put a clause that said basically "I have the right to cheat/not to cheat as I see fit."

I'm not arguing the contract. Wait, is he planning to refund the bidders and not ship??

[stereotype]

Let's make sure he has to work real hard to get the chance to pull this shit off again.

to hold an auction?  yeah that will be hard

To hold a successful auction.

Garr forced people to pay a price people were happy to pay. free market wins, people wanted a "deal" did not get it and are fucking shitting themselvez cuz some guy on the internet "tricked" them.

face palm for just about everyone in this thread other than the people who said, yeah garr fucked up but its not the end of the world. he apoligized and paid out so let us move on.

Garr should have set a reserve price instead of the sock shill.  

Two very easy solutions:  no sock puppet bidding, auctioneers use a reserve price.

I was debating on auctioning off my SC Single.  In your logic, I could set it up, let people bid, then have my sock send the bid up to 1000BTC in the last few seconds.  Maybe someone would be desperate enough to outbid me (doubtful).  I win my own auction every single time until I get the price I want.  Why have the auction in the first place?  The entire auction process becomes a giant circle-jerk where the auctioneer sets the price, not the bidders.  That's not how an auction works.

They guy is a child who cant even hold legal binding auctions. And you are bitching he broke some rules some of you thought were real but theymos said were not?

WTF?

Then he certainly isn't old enough to run Cognitive and he double certainly shouldn't be holding onto 250BTC of forum funds.  Which is it?

dont give money to his operation! dont give money to the forum! fuck off you troll!!   free market!

also see this thread and see why theymos has not sent out a scammer tag, BBF shit   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149253.0

No need to get nasty.  I'm trying to figure out the logic.  So your saying that the same person that can't even legally enter into an auction agreement is now running a company?  With shareholders?  And he's got about 25 grand of donations?  Do Cognitive shareholders know this?  You're right on one aspect that a juvenile cannot enter into a binding contract, which means this thing gets fisher with each day.

Goat is a Cognitive shareholder.  Helps makes sense of the consistent defense of Garr - including the duration of Garr's first lie.

Defender of Garr? No I said he was a cunt for being a cunt. Go reread what i posted.

I'm defending Theymos here for enforcing his twisted rules of what is or what is not a scammer on this forum.

Matthew is a scammer, Pirate at 40 is a scammer, Garr is not.

Deal with it.


edit: Also if Garr was a scammer than Theymos would also odds are be a scammer. Lose rules man but still rules.

Your edit could be read as, Theymos is up for a bit of 'price enhancement'. Im sure that's not what you meant.

[ThatDGuy]

No need to get nasty.  I'm trying to figure out the logic.  So your saying that the same person that can't even legally enter into an auction agreement is now running a company?  With shareholders?  And he's got about 25 grand of donations?  Do Cognitive shareholders know this?  You're right on one aspect that a juvenile cannot enter into a binding contract, which means this thing gets fisher with each day.

Goat is a Cognitive shareholder.  Helps makes sense of the consistent defense of Garr - including the duration of Garr's first lie.

Defender of Garr? No I said he was a cunt for being a cunt. Go reread what i posted.

I'm defending Theymos here for enforcing his twisted rules of what is or what is not a scammer on this forum.

Matthew is a scammer, Pirate at 40 is a scammer, Garr is not.

Deal with it.


edit: Also if Garr was a scammer than Theymos would also odds are be a scammer. Lose rules man but still rules.

Re-reading, per your suggestion:

Before you guys go crazy the confession was forced.

There is not enough evidance to prove garr used a sock.

Hmm...

There is an option c here.

This might not be as black and white as people suspect.

But good thread for popped corn.

Hmm...

There is an option c here.

This might not be as black and white as people suspect.

But good thread for popped corn.

You might want to mention it considering Garr is currently bound by Josh not to defend himself, or risk losing his BFL shipment.

I cant prove it or have access to the info needed to be able to prove it. However there is a reasonable answer. If theymos looked into it i think he could confirm.

If this does get looked into you guys might be shocked by the findings and maybe everyone here has been honest.

These are all quotes from before Garr's first and second confession.  I'm not finding where you called him a "cunt"

[stereotype]

Your edit could be read as, Theymos is up for a bit of 'price enhancement'. Im sure that's not what you meant.

No, you should reread it, and maybe lurk more to get context.

Thing is mostly I'm talking to people who have been here 3 plus year but the 1 month n00bs are the ones who "don't get it".

Really unattractive.

[pheaonix]

i warned this shit would happen weeks ago

brb, "auctioning" a couple things off

[stereotype]

Your edit could be read as, Theymos is up for a bit of 'price enhancement'. Im sure that's not what you meant.

No, you should reread it, and maybe lurk more to get context.

Thing is mostly I'm talking to people who have been here 3 plus year but the 1 month n00bs are the ones who "don't get it".

Really unattractive.

i never said I was pretty.

Ignored

[kibblesnbits]

All right.  This thread has crashed and burned into a hot mess of name calling and nonsense.  Can I lock this thing or does a mod have to do it?