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November 12, 2017, 06:11:07 AM
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I'm not sure why it's happening, but I'm enjoying the ride. I have .02 of a BTC left that's at a loss already, so I'm leaving it, but the rest I've sold. Riding the BCH and will cash out soon to take my original investment and just leave the 'profit' invested there. When the market settles I'll re invest where fit.
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November 12, 2017, 06:14:16 AM
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In the last days, as Segwit2x end was announced, the fees went up significantly and transaction time went up. This is the way to bring Bitcoin to its end. But hope, it is a tempotarly trend, because I kept Bitcoin, although I spent nearly 30% fees for a transaction, what is in my eyes not ok.
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What service charged you 30 percent fees?HuhHuh
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November 12, 2017, 06:23:01 AM
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OMG i dont believe that situation everything goes dark in the market Smiley
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November 12, 2017, 06:27:33 AM
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I must admit that I only started investng in Bitcoin at around the $3000 price, but I saw it soar to nearly $8k in anticipation of the Seg2 split....which is now void...and the price is instantly plummeting as Bitcoin Cash is soaring?  WTF!  I've lost $2k in Btc in 24 hours?  Is BTC going to continue spiralling downward and for how long?  What is the bottom going to be?  Am I supposed to just transfer everything to Bitcoin Cash?  

Advice for a noob?  Thanks kindy!


Rumors are Big money is moving everything to Bitcoin Cash and that they are going to destroy Core version of bitcoin.
It looks to be truthful , when you look at the trading volumes and the price changes.

Smart move , dump core's coin and move into fiat or bitcoin cash, at least for the next few weeks.
 

IGNORE this advice. This guy is using a newbie account to push his agenda. There are a bunch of people who are pumping Bitcoin

Cash at the moment and manipulating other people to buy it. Once the price is pumped, they will start dumping again... leaving

the people who fell for this to take the losses. Bitcoin Cash is a Alt coin being used to make certain people very rich. {They knew

the strategy before the pump, so they bought loads of cheap coins before the pump started}

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November 12, 2017, 06:28:33 AM
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.. I only started investng in Bitcoin at around the $3000 price, ...  I've lost $2k in Btc in 48 hours?

price is nearly $6000 and you have already doubled your money, that is 100% profit in a couple of months. how did you lose $2000!!!

Is BTC going to continue spiralling downward and for how long?  What is the bottom going to be?  Am I supposed to just transfer everything to Bitcoin Cash? 

Advice for a noob?  Thanks kindy!

it is impossible to call the bottom. so far it seems to not be able to stop. and the bigger it gets the more people will panic and start selling their bitcoin and crash the market more until the weak hands are completely flushed out of the market.
and with the current bitcoin cash ongoing pump, it is attracting a lot of money to itself and those who sell bitcoin go in bitcoin cash until the pump is over then they will come back to bitcoin with all their profit and bitcoin will rise.

it will probably take a while though. they can not pump BCH forever, it will eventually start blowing up.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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November 12, 2017, 06:32:34 AM
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I must admit that I only started investng in Bitcoin at around the $3000 price, but I saw it soar to nearly $8k in anticipation of the Seg2 split....which is now void...and the price is instantly plummeting as Bitcoin Cash is soaring?  WTF!  I've lost $2k in Btc in 24 hours?  Is BTC going to continue spiralling downward and for how long?  What is the bottom going to be?  Am I supposed to just transfer everything to Bitcoin Cash?  

Advice for a noob?  Thanks kindy!


Rumors are Big money is moving everything to Bitcoin Cash and that they are going to destroy Core version of bitcoin.
It looks to be truthful , when you look at the trading volumes and the price changes.

Smart move , dump core's coin and move into fiat or bitcoin cash, at least for the next few weeks.
 

IGNORE this advice. This guy is using a newbie account to push his agenda. There are a bunch of people who are pumping Bitcoin

Cash at the moment and manipulating other people to buy it. Once the price is pumped, they will start dumping again... leaving

the people who fell for this to take the losses. Bitcoin Cash is a Alt coin being used to make certain people very rich. {They knew

the strategy before the pump, so they bought loads of cheap coins before the pump started}


Thank you Thank you Thank you.  I also just found another comment on another thread that said the following:

"Canceled SegWit, people sold BTC to buy an alt-coin, and everybody chose BCH. Then, they will sell and make fall BCH, to buy Bitcoin cheap again."

"Smart and easy explanation, thanks for it. That's how trading works folks, do not panic!  Smiley"


IMHO, It's still very annoying that this Seg split came and went and then sent the market into chaos.  I'm still rather pissed.  Sad

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November 12, 2017, 06:34:47 AM
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THIS is kind of what is happening !

"Traders, certain information has come to my attention that is causing me grave concerns and i feel it is my duty to warn each and every one of you.    
  
We all know the scaling drama has caused a huge rift, resulting in bitcoin forking into the soon to be "Bitcoin Cash".    
  
I know many have large holdings and savings in bitcoin, and are 'hodlers' and will never sell, so when the selling starts, you may lose everything if you don't also sell.  
 
Gentlemen, this is certaintly not going to be gentlemen.      
  
Certain information has come to light from back room channels, sources i cannot disclose ~ even writing this post will probably reveal my source - but i feel by gods will, I must warn you all.  
 
Selling is coming. Selling the likes of which hasn't been seen since MtGox era.  
Already as i type this, battleships of bitcoin are being shorted on all major exchanges.  
 
Gentlemen, The enemy, the big blockers, have colluded and joined forces. The chinese, Jihan & co have put together a plan to replace bitcoin with bitcoin cash.  
  
The plan goes like this:  
Chinese miners (f2pool, antpool etc etc) have organised with major exchanges (via/huobi/okcoin etc) to support and launch bitcoin cash.  
Initially they will let everyone who wants to sell, sell.    
Once the coin has bottomed out, and everyone who wanted to sell has sold, they [chinese miners/jihad/chinese exchanges] will begin accumulating lots and lots of bitcoin cash.  
They will then begin to pump the price  to around 0.1 BCC/BTC - 10%  
The big pools won't mine it ~ they will let the smaller pools see the returns from mining this expensive, but low difficulty coin and start mining it.  
Later, the larger pools will join, and as we know, jihad has ALOT of hashing power, their plan is for bitcoin cash to have more hashing power than bitcoin ~ and lets be honest, once t he chinese move over, that is pretty much it.  
Around this time, the 'hard fork' section of segwit 2x is not going to happen ~ it never was - Bitcoin cash will then be seen as the original NYA coin..  
At that point in time, Bitcoin cash will be on all major chinese exchanges, possibly some western exchanges aswell, and have majority hashing power. Western companies & other merchant providers (BitPay - @Spair) etc - paid off by bitmain etc will go along with the new bitcoin cash narrative and will push for the 'bitcoin cash' to be called 'bitcoin' on all their platforms, leaving only coinbase et all which will then be the odd ones out..  
  
Now comes the scary part, The old bitcoin, the bitcoin we know and love, is going to get DESTROYED.  
What determines a coins success ? It's market cap.  
Big old school blockers and miners are going to dump bitcoin back to the bottom, they will take literally billions and billions of dollars out of bitcoin. They will use the money to fund the marketing, and development, or 'bitcoin cash' - Think, Bitcoin core - FIRED.  Think - forbes article, "why bitcoin miners and companies are moving to bitcoin cash" - think - "Why the market is chosing bitcoin cash as bitcoin not bitcoin core"  - They wil lsay the market has spoken, that people have voted with their money.  
  
Right now, massive huge shorts are being built, already on finex, shorts are at 32k - not seen since $200 these kinds of numbers of shorts, and its climbing, all the t ime, consistently, they have ALOT of coins to short.  
    
The most painful kind of selling, is where it never bounces and if you remember MtGox from $1000 to $70, you'll remember what no bounces feels like ~ and I can tell you. This won't be any better.  
  
Good luck all, remember - fair warning.
  
Below is I grabbed, i also have some slack and telegram logs, I will sort them out later when i get back, i just want to confirm what I can safely disclose first for my own protection."
    
Email from [alice] to [bob] - http://imgur.com/a/FcZIp
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November 12, 2017, 06:34:56 AM
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There's a lot of love for Bitcoin by the developers,

The developers are lying cheating theives.

1) DDOSed Bitcoin XT
2) Censorship in the Forums to control people thoughts
3) cheated about Hong Kong compromise
4) lied about NYA compromise
5) trying to divert fees to private company
6) arrogant neck beard assholes

bye-bye BTC!!!
Even dumb people won't hang around if this is the way you conduct yourselves.  Even if your technology (segwit) was better, which it isn't, people don't like the dishonesty and the vote with their feet by moving to BCH where honesty reigns!

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November 12, 2017, 06:44:10 AM
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bitcoin is sucking all the cryptos for months. of course it would suffer a big crash sometime and the money had to be going elsewhere. I think BCH is not going back to where it was,but I also think that BTC will enter in drain mode again soon hahaha. (when did BCH suck the money like bitcoin did for such a long time? It might be a huge trap, who knows...)
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November 12, 2017, 07:08:39 AM
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Keep your BTC for a more long term perspective. This mess is about to get stable real soon.
Consider the following insights:

1. With this kind of price change, people have the tendency to dump once the profits become irresistible
2. BTC is still king!! It is the most widely used crypto in restaurants, hotels etc.
3. It seems the funds are all coming from one part o the world (ASIA). Seems to be a short-lived price manipulation. Not a consensus by
bitcoin holders around the world.

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November 12, 2017, 07:12:55 AM
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Keep your BTC for a more long term perspective. This mess is about to get stable real soon.
Consider the following insights:

1. With this kind of price change, people have the tendency to dump once the profits become irresistible
2. BTC is still king!! It is the most widely used crypto in restaurants, hotels etc.
3. It seems the funds are all coming from one part o the world (ASIA). Seems to be a short-lived price manipulation. Not a consensus by
bitcoin holders around the world.


Thanks Boss.  Just saw BCH soar to 2450 then down....and BTC plummet to 5500 then up to 5800....all within a matter of minutes.  This volatility is crazy. But I'm trying to learn and keeping positive.  Long Term investor here.  Smiley
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November 12, 2017, 07:19:01 AM
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Pump and dump bro..Nothing has changed
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November 12, 2017, 07:20:50 AM
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Keep your BTC for a more long term perspective. This mess is about to get stable real soon.
Consider the following insights:

1. With this kind of price change, people have the tendency to dump once the profits become irresistible
2. BTC is still king!! It is the most widely used crypto in restaurants, hotels etc.
3. It seems the funds are all coming from one part o the world (ASIA). Seems to be a short-lived price manipulation. Not a consensus by
bitcoin holders around the world.


Thanks Boss.  Just saw BCH soar to 2450 then down....and BTC plummet to 5500 then up to 5800....all within a matter of minutes.  This volatility is crazy. But I'm trying to learn and keeping positive.  Long Term investor here.  Smiley


You can buy BTC now while it's cheap. While I can imagine BCH reaching 0.5BTC again, it's gonna dump again when there. Hopefully the BCH has died now, only some haven't realized it yet.
I wish I had placed a limit order before 0.5, but I still managed to get out at 0.37.
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November 12, 2017, 07:21:30 AM
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I must admit that I only started investng in Bitcoin at around the $3000 price, but I saw it soar to nearly $8k in anticipation of the Seg2 split....which is now void...and the price is instantly plummeting as Bitcoin Cash is soaring?  WTF!  I've lost $2k in Btc in 48 hours?  Is BTC going to continue spiralling downward and for how long?  What is the bottom going to be?  Am I supposed to just transfer everything to Bitcoin Cash?  

Advice for a noob?  Thanks kindy!

EDIT:  OR DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH TOMORROW'S  BITCOIN GOLD FORK?
Lol don't panic bitcoin is better than bcc you know why? Because rich man but again if the bitcoin goes down this is another story about this thats why many investor always get a lot of money because they can predict now the value of bitcoin . Sad
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November 12, 2017, 07:21:43 AM
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I was away for just a day and this happens.

Anyway, keep HODLING everyone as this may just be a passing and clearly manipulated by the big players out there.

BTC is King!
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November 12, 2017, 07:21:48 AM
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I answer for you.

Bitcoin Cash
Cheaper fees
Faster translations
Market Price keeps going up

Average transactions per block for the last 7 days:

Bitcoin: 2146
Scamcash: 91

It doesn't matter how cheap it is, the thing is nobody is keen on using it.

In the last days, as Segwit2x end was announced, the fees went up significantly and transaction time went up. This is the way to bring Bitcoin to its end. But hope, it is a tempotarly trend, because I kept Bitcoin, although I spent nearly 30% fees for a transaction, what is in my eyes not ok.

If you spent 30% on a tx it means you have sent 10-15$ for a fast confirmation or 5-6$ for the average. Which is kind of ...stupid.
Try sending 200$ , you;re still going to pay 30%?



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November 12, 2017, 07:27:13 AM
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BCH from $$2850 to $$1700   Cheesy Cheesy

A lot of people got their asses handed to them in this first dump and it is still tanking.  Don't fall for these whale games, just lock your BTC away on a hardware wallet then put it in a safe =P
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November 12, 2017, 07:28:33 AM
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Don't get excited, BTC has regained $400 in no time.
Did I say 400? It just leaped another $200, just while I was writing. Voila, another $150.
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November 12, 2017, 07:35:53 AM
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I must admit that I only started investng in Bitcoin at around the $3000 price, but I saw it soar to nearly $8k in anticipation of the Seg2 split....which is now void...and the price is instantly plummeting as Bitcoin Cash is soaring?  WTF!  I've lost $2k in Btc in 48 hours?  Is BTC going to continue spiralling downward and for how long?  What is the bottom going to be?  Am I supposed to just transfer everything to Bitcoin Cash?  

Advice for a noob?  Thanks kindy!

EDIT:  OR DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH TOMORROW'S  BITCOIN GOLD FORK?

What do you mean you lost money? You did not lose anything until you sell your coins. Do you know how many pumps and dumps we ve had since the early BTC days. Exercise some patience my friend or switch to DMD Diamond. We like making money there.

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November 12, 2017, 07:37:31 AM
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Weird how Bittrex keeps reporting Bitcoin Cash' last price @ 0.39900000 (ATH), and hasn't updated the graph since that time at 07.30. Other coins are updated fine though...
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