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November 14, 2017, 04:07:35 PM
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The development of bitcoin is indeed not accepted in all countries, many countries which until now still do not know about bitcoin, but for russia, I'm sure one day the Russian government will use bitcoin.

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November 14, 2017, 06:05:25 PM
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Well, in my own opinion, i thnk this is really possible to happen. Because it is obvious that Russia itself is very fond of the technology but just cannot allow it yet because of all the danger of illegal things being done inside Russia. Or maybe they are just studying the technology and are planning to create their own crypto currency that they, themselves can control and regulate. That is just my speculation though.

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November 15, 2017, 10:50:52 AM
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Well, in my own opinion, i thnk this is really possible to happen. Because it is obvious that Russia itself is very fond of the technology but just cannot allow it yet because of all the danger of illegal things being done inside Russia. Or maybe they are just studying the technology and are planning to create their own crypto currency that they, themselves can control and regulate. That is just my speculation though.

well... may be you are right *sigh* but i still hoping they legalize it
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November 15, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
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We all know that cryptocurrency and Russia have contradictory relationships.

Russia seeking for the way how to regulate cryptocurrency, for example, some of Russians officials claim that bitcoin and cryptocurrency should be considered as "goods" and not a "currency". Also, they banned well known Russian media about cryptocurrency. They still don't want to legalize Bitcoin explaining that this currency is used for money-laundering and illegal business.

On the other hand, there are a lot ICO campaigns in Russia. Almost every week the crypto and blockchain events are organized. And Russian crypto community is quite big.

Do you believe that one day Russian government will legalize Bitcoin and join cryptocommunity?

Yes, I do believe that the Russian government will legalize Bitcoin eventually. They have no other choice unless they want to be like North Korea, isolated from the rest of the world. There is a strong Bitcoin community in Russia and I'm sure some of those guys have ties with the government.

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November 16, 2017, 04:35:45 AM
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Well, Russia is a country that doesn’t have a large economy a country which is controlled by predominantly one party in government. This party, Putins Party, wants control over everhthing in the country and doesn’t want to lose the profits they’re able to extract from the country

Bitcoin is a problem for them, I see it being regulated very very soon!

Do you trust russian ICO projects?
Now many people are convinced that Russian ICO projects, as a rule, are fraud. Many in this forum say that they will never again participate in the ICO if there are Russians in its team. The Russians in ICO themselves have compromised.
    As for the crypto-currency crisis in general, the situation in Russia is not good either. Representatives of the authorities say one thing, but they do something else. And even their statements about the crypto currency are contradictory.
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November 16, 2017, 08:29:54 AM
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Well, Russia is a country that doesn’t have a large economy a country which is controlled by predominantly one party in government. This party, Putins Party, wants control over everhthing in the country and doesn’t want to lose the profits they’re able to extract from the country

Bitcoin is a problem for them, I see it being regulated very very soon!

Do you trust russian ICO projects?
Now many people are convinced that Russian ICO projects, as a rule, are fraud. Many in this forum say that they will never again participate in the ICO if there are Russians in its team. The Russians in ICO themselves have compromised.
    As for the crypto-currency crisis in general, the situation in Russia is not good either. Representatives of the authorities say one thing, but they do something else. And even their statements about the crypto currency are contradictory.

Eh. Very disappointing to hear. You are always hoping that your country is doing well. However, there are good projects in Russia
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November 16, 2017, 08:38:13 AM
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We all know that cryptocurrency and Russia have contradictory relationships.

Russia seeking for the way how to regulate cryptocurrency, for example, some of Russians officials claim that bitcoin and cryptocurrency should be considered as "goods" and not a "currency". Also, they banned well known Russian media about cryptocurrency. They still don't want to legalize Bitcoin explaining that this currency is used for money-laundering and illegal business.

On the other hand, there are a lot ICO campaigns in Russia. Almost every week the crypto and blockchain events are organized. And Russian crypto community is quite big.

Do you believe that one day Russian government will legalize Bitcoin and join cryptocommunity?

Russia will be second to China in crypto

It's a natural fit, there will be more miner in Russia, with access to power

Russian Math&CS ppl are the best in the world, so they can work together on BTC 2.0

They will smash the 'criminal-shit' ICO biz, just like China did,

We hear that Buterin (ETH buttboy) recently met with Putin

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A lot of this bullshit would just end if ppl actually traveled to CHINA & RUSSIA,

Eastern Europe ( bulgaria, czech ... ) are like the wild-wild west of crypto
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November 16, 2017, 08:41:28 AM
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Eh. Very disappointing to hear. You are always hoping that your country is doing well. However, there are good projects in Russia


If your Russian ICO has no criminal element then you have nothing to fear, trouble is 99% of all ICO's on earth are SHIT designed to scam pensioners, and GOV if it has one job, its to protect the elderly,  from the young criminals.

Of course the criminals go after the elderly cuz "Thats where the money is".
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November 16, 2017, 04:45:45 PM
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Eh. Very disappointing to hear. You are always hoping that your country is doing well. However, there are good projects in Russia


If your Russian ICO has no criminal element then you have nothing to fear, trouble is 99% of all ICO's on earth are SHIT designed to scam pensioners, and GOV if it has one job, its to protect the elderly,  from the young criminals.

Of course the criminals go after the elderly cuz "Thats where the money is".

There is no criminal element actually) we just want to make event industry more profitable
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November 17, 2017, 09:43:10 AM
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Well, in my own opinion, i thnk this is really possible to happen. Because it is obvious that Russia itself is very fond of the technology but just cannot allow it yet because of all the danger of illegal things being done inside Russia. Or maybe they are just studying the technology and are planning to create their own crypto currency that they, themselves can control and regulate. That is just my speculation though.

Yes, i totally agree with this opinion. Not sure about own cryptocurrency for now, but anything is possible in future.
I hope nothing will change their mind and interest for new technologies and they will not forbid cryptos.

Will see!
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November 17, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
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If Russia creates and regulates their own cryptocurrency, then what difference does it have than having a regular bank account at a Russian bank? A government created cryptocurrency defeats its own purpose, since people wouldn't be willing to invest in it, especially in a country like Russia where the government can reach everywhere.

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November 17, 2017, 01:35:28 PM
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Russia is a communist country just like china.Usually communist countries don't encourage liberal ideas.So,obviously they don't like to promote bitcoin which gives liberty to its citizens regarding financial activities.

Recently,putin termed bitcoin as a pyramid scheme.We all know him as a dictator and russian government would move only in the direction in which he dictates.Very soon,russia may even ban ICOs just as in china.

Recently,it said that it would ban access to bitcoin exchanges and websites.So,we could not expect a positive news from russia.


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November 17, 2017, 01:43:33 PM
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Russia is a communist country just like china.Usually communist countries don't encourage liberal ideas.So,obviously they don't like to promote bitcoin which gives liberty to its citizens regarding financial activities.

Recently,putin termed bitcoin as a pyramid scheme.We all know him as a dictator and russian government would move only in the direction in which he dictates.Very soon,russia may even ban ICOs just as in china.

Recently,it said that it would ban access to bitcoin exchanges and websites.So,we could not expect a positive news from russia.



But now China is coming back to Bitcoin. Who knows  Sad
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November 17, 2017, 01:56:20 PM
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ICOs and crypto are very popular in Russia, most of succesfull projects are from Russia so maybe soon this country will become really progressive in this area and will be a 'heart' of crypto and ICO, why not?

Name on successful ICO project, one that actually got to be implemented and used.

Russia is a communist country just like china.Usually communist countries don't encourage liberal ideas.So,obviously they don't like to promote bitcoin which gives liberty to its citizens regarding financial activities.

Recently,putin termed bitcoin as a pyramid scheme.We all know him as a dictator and russian government would move only in the direction in which he dictates.Very soon,russia may even ban ICOs just as in china.

Recently,it said that it would ban access to bitcoin exchanges and websites.So,we could not expect a positive news from russia.

Russia is no longer a communist country, it has embraced a bit of capitalism with the government still controlling parts of the economy.At least on paper it's not a communist country anymore, more like a socialist combined with a totalitarian government.

But that aside the major problem for Russia is capital outflow.
This is one of the main reasons one of the biggest country in the world with huge oil gas mineral reserves are struggling to compete with the eastern block in terms of gdp per capita.
And bitcoin is one of the things that make capital movement a piece of pie.
Russia will never support this as it is going to ruin their already crippled economy.

Yes, I do believe that the Russian government will legalize Bitcoin eventually. They have no other choice unless they want to be like North Korea, isolated from the rest of the world. There is a strong Bitcoin community in Russia and I'm sure some of those guys have ties with the government.

Exaggerating...at least.
How do you even think Russia will be isolated if they are not going to use bitcoin?
Is there a country (the government not the population) using bitcoin right now?

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November 17, 2017, 03:46:02 PM
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Russia is a communist country just like china.Usually communist countries don't encourage liberal ideas.So,obviously they don't like to promote bitcoin which gives liberty to its citizens regarding financial activities.
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Russia is no longer a communist country, it has embraced a bit of capitalism with the government still controlling parts of the economy.At least on paper it's not a communist country anymore, more like a socialist combined with a totalitarian government.

I think both of your might be right. Russia is oligarchic dictatorship but with culturally communist (Putin said that fall of Soviet Union was the worst thing of XX century) attitudes. Just take a look how authorities stick to communist pasts, communists monuments and street names and also criticize other ex-Soviet countries for the process of decommunization.
I think at some moments Russia might pressure more bitcoin and cryptocurrency community, and then lots of crypto-entrepreneurs will ran away (some to Belarus, Ukraine, Baltic states, other and especially those who speak English fluently might end in USA and other countries).
As example you can see the stories of Berezovsky, Khodorkovskiy, and lots of others less famous businessmen.
 

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November 17, 2017, 03:59:58 PM
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For all governments, the question of legalizing bitcoin is harsh...

Because indeed, it is used for money laundring and for the moment "bitcoin" is quite related with "darkweb" and "illegal matters" for the public opinion, mass medias and.. well, governments.

For the moment, all the governments are more or less chosing either to ignore bitcoin or to make it illegal. It is easier for them, as they are perfectly aware that there are many operations out of their control, yet happening on their territory, allowed by new technologies (not only btc).

At some point, they will no longer be able to ignore it or simply ban it (due to, you know, international operations, vpn and impossible control). Russia will do as the others. Except that, if the Russian community is large enough, they may be able to make it happen soon...

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For all governments, the question of legalizing bitcoin is harsh...

Because indeed, it is used for money laundring and for the moment "bitcoin" is quite related with "darkweb" and "illegal matters" for the public opinion, mass medias and.. well, governments.

For the moment, all the governments are more or less chosing either to ignore bitcoin or to make it illegal. It is easier for them, as they are perfectly aware that there are many operations out of their control, yet happening on their territory, allowed by new technologies (not only btc).

At some point, they will no longer be able to ignore it or simply ban it (due to, you know, international operations, vpn and impossible control). Russia will do as the others. Except that, if the Russian community is large enough, they may be able to make it happen soon...


Bitcoin forum is a system arround world wide and it's a legalized bitcoin according in government and to the public it's a illegal for a moment and many of them are out of control and this are allowed by other new technologys and Russia had community is large in bitcoin.They focused on bitcoin from long time.
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November 17, 2017, 04:31:32 PM
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I think Russia may back up ETH and make it russian bitcoin. Yeah, it stupid though based solely on the fact, that it russian developers behind it. But who knows, right? Could ban all bitcoins transactions and access to exchanges in a matter of days.

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November 17, 2017, 04:40:01 PM
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I think Russia may back up ETH and make it russian bitcoin. Yeah, it stupid though based solely on the fact, that it russian developers behind it. But who knows, right? Could ban all bitcoins transactions and access to exchanges in a matter of days.

Hard to imagine this)) By the way Vitalik Buterin is citizen of Canada, and he resides in Singapore.
Moreover ETH is already established currency, how you imagine that Russia will take control over it? Or will create another fork? (Like Ethereum Classic exists, but it's not so popular)

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I think Russia may back up ETH and make it russian bitcoin. Yeah, it stupid though based solely on the fact, that it russian developers behind it. But who knows, right? Could ban all bitcoins transactions and access to exchanges in a matter of days.

Hard to imagine this)) By the way Vitalik Buterin is citizen of Canada, and he resides in Singapore.
Moreover ETH is already established currency, how you imagine that Russia will take control over it? Or will create another fork? (Like Ethereum Classic exists, but it's not so popular)

And they are going to call it Ethereum Russia   Lips sealed
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